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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Well, hey, good morning everybody. My name is

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Tarbaugh and I'm Kyle Dobmeyer. Yes, and today we

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<v Speaker 1>are the Bible Guys because Jeff's out of town and

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<v Speaker 1>he's flying over.

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<v Speaker 2>Where is he by the way, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>we could talk about it. Isn't it like a secret?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, you're right. He's in parts of the world

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<v Speaker 1>that he's that that are that are dangerous, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's there because.

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<v Speaker 3>He's helping with Timothy Initiative, yes, spreading the gospel. And

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<v Speaker 3>and I know that one thing he shared with me

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<v Speaker 3>is that some of the doors that have opened last

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years are things that he has been praying

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<v Speaker 3>about and their team's been praying about for years, and

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<v Speaker 3>God has allowed them to go into areas where the

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<v Speaker 3>Gospel was not present before.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And his and his wife's with him, so that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. So Bonnie actually traveled with him

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<v Speaker 1>this time and she's keeping him safe. Yeah, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what she's she's a brave soul. Now we Kristen

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<v Speaker 1>like to do that? My wife would say no, ultimately, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she'd like it, like try it, like going

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<v Speaker 3>once maybe, But I don't know. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>would be a normal Like I don't think Bonnie is

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<v Speaker 3>Bonnie is different. She's built different, right, Yeah, when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to that, that's sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Liz would say no, thanks, good for you, for you.

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<v Speaker 2>For you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Well, hey, today, before we jump into the

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<v Speaker 1>Book of Neamiah, which is extremely exciting, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be learning all about Neamiyah, you know, building the Wall,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously that's a pretty famous story, uh for the

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<v Speaker 1>Old Testament. But before we dive into that, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a segment and the segment is written by Desiree and

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<v Speaker 1>it is Queen Desiree, and she says, guess the word.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see if Kyle can guess the keyword based on

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<v Speaker 1>the clues from Chris. While Chris avoids saying the italicized words.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris also gets to determine how many points that Kyle wins.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, okay, so you get to determine the points.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so each one that you win is worth one

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<v Speaker 1>thousand points.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, And I just want to prep the viewers who

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<v Speaker 3>are listening. I'm awful these types of games. So this

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<v Speaker 3>is gonna be bad.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be yelling at them. They're gonna be yelling

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<v Speaker 2>out lot, They're gonna be like this guy is an idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's gonna be great. And if you're watching on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>then hopefully we're gonna have the words on the screen

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<v Speaker 1>that I cannot say. Okay, okay, are you ready? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>The first one? If you want to put your knickknacks

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<v Speaker 1>in something so it doesn't chip, what do you put

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<v Speaker 1>them in?

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't chip?

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<v Speaker 1>When when taking them from house to house?

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<v Speaker 4>Douffel bag? No, nick knacks, purse? Secure them before you

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<v Speaker 4>put them in the box. You secure them by uh

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<v Speaker 4>uh wrapping them in?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Foiling them in?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh no? What's the fun stuff? Oh my gosh, you

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<v Speaker 1>get let you haul?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Strip wrap?

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<v Speaker 1>Bubble wrap? Yes, that's the word.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I couldn't say pop, no, no, no, that was good.

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<v Speaker 1>That was good. I couldn't say pop plastic, packaging, bubbles

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<v Speaker 1>or shipping.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, gotcha, bubble wrap?

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<v Speaker 5>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sorry, man, I could have done a better. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you five hundred for that five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding, thousand, five hundred points. All right, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. Ready, Oh geez, When a person throws balls

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<v Speaker 1>up in the air repeatedly, that is called uh clown

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<v Speaker 1>jug Yeah yeah, but what is he doing juggling? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>a singular word, juggle juggle. Yes, that's correct, that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't allowed to say circus hands, catch, toss, or rotates,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's it. So okay, how about this one? Ready,

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<v Speaker 1>and Emperor's new groove? Emperor Cusco turned into a donkey? No,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Love what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever seen Napoleon Dynamite? Yeah? Remember he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>can you eat your dinner? What was that animal? A lama?

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<v Speaker 1>That is correct? Two references for that. I was allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to say animal spit, I'll pack a wool or South America?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, Hey that was good. You went to do movie, right?

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<v Speaker 2>That helped a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, so dude, you said Emperor Cusco turned into

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<v Speaker 1>a donkey.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually such a good movie. I just could not

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<v Speaker 2>remember what that animal was.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, it's such a good one. All right, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of my favorites. By the way, how about

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<v Speaker 1>g is Okay, what do you put on hamburgers that

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<v Speaker 1>are green and crunchy?

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<v Speaker 2>Hamburgers that are green and crunchy? What do you put

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<v Speaker 2>out that? A green? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Let us Uh that's that's one thing. What's sickle thing? Yeah? Pickles,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, and uh pickles onions in the jar? It

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<v Speaker 1>is soaking in juice. Pickle juice, Yes, pickle juice, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't say sour vinegar, cucumber, brine or drink.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hey, did you do better than I am? I

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<v Speaker 2>give you a thousand points?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you so far? Did you have four thousand points?

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<v Speaker 2>Four thousand?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go all right? The last one is this? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>gee whiz okay? Uh. Old people don't don't uh keep

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<v Speaker 1>together their new balances with strings but rather with balance

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<v Speaker 1>another way.

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<v Speaker 2>To tie your shoes killed.

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<v Speaker 1>A new balance wouldn't be with strings, but with what

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<v Speaker 1>old people do it all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even know girl, Yes, well crow, okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>I was yes, I wasn't allowed to say shoes, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>strap stick, rip or fastener?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I'll get me honest, I think you did better

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<v Speaker 3>than I did, I would not have thought of new

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<v Speaker 3>I would not all old people.

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<v Speaker 2>That was really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I couldn't say I couldn't say like new, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't say shoes, I said new balance, and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say you know. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But even still, I think I'd end up trying to

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<v Speaker 3>make sound effects or something if it me and I

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<v Speaker 3>had to describe velcrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's against the rules. Probably, Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>motions and sound effects the case. But at least if

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing taboo rules.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, right, So I got five thousand points.

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<v Speaker 1>Good job, buddy. I wonder how many listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet you we have some pretty sharp people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they're probably on the road, just like that was easy

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<v Speaker 3>old people or maybe the rocket bell crow shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, hey guys, thanks for playing along, and we

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<v Speaker 1>are now moving into the very exciting book of Neo Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this book.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's so funny is the listeners got Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>and Wesley last week, nice, and now they're getting Chris

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<v Speaker 1>and Kyle this week. Nice. So and you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>definitely the most present besides Jeff and I. You're the

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<v Speaker 1>most present on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy, and if you're watching this from home. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>realize until I stoodn't when I got here today, I

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<v Speaker 3>looked like a referee today. If you said you're watching this,

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<v Speaker 3>or if you're not, even go back and watch. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>wearing my referee re shirt. And then Chris is the

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<v Speaker 3>word of the Daily Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, he's representing, representing as if people need another logo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you just need to get one with your face

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<v Speaker 2>on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So face f there's like logos surrounding us. So all right, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>So here we go. Niamiah chapter one versus started through

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<v Speaker 2>And we got some words that are gonna be fun

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<v Speaker 2>to say here, So be patient with me.

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<v Speaker 3>Neamaiyah, starting in chapter one, verse one says, these are

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<v Speaker 3>the memoirs of Neamiyah, son of Hakalayah. In late autumn,

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<v Speaker 3>in the month of Kislov, in the twentieth year of

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<v Speaker 3>King Arctic Xercees reign, I was at the fortress of

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<v Speaker 3>Susa Hannah, and I one of my brothers came to

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<v Speaker 3>from Judah. I asked them about the Jews who had

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<v Speaker 3>well for those who return to the province of Judah.

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<v Speaker 3>They're in great trouble and disgrace. The wall of Jerusalem

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<v Speaker 3>has been torn down, and the gates have been destroyed

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<v Speaker 3>by fire. When I heard this, says, I sat down

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<v Speaker 3>and wept. In fact, for days, I'm mourn. I fasted

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<v Speaker 3>and prayed to the God of Heaven. Then I said, O, Lord,

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<v Speaker 3>God of Heaven, the great and awesome God who keeps

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<v Speaker 3>and obey his commands, listen to my prayer. Look down

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<v Speaker 3>and see me praying night and day for your people Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>I confess we have sinned against you. Yes, even my

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<v Speaker 3>own family and I have sinned. We have sinned terrible

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<v Speaker 3>by not obeying the commands, decrees, and regulations that you

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<v Speaker 3>gave us through your servant Moses. Please remember what you

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<v Speaker 3>told your servant Moses. If you're unfaithful to me, I

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<v Speaker 3>will scatter you among the nations. But if you return

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<v Speaker 3>to me and obey my commands and live by them,

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<v Speaker 3>then even if you are exiled to the ends of

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<v Speaker 3>the earth, I will bring you back to the place

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<v Speaker 3>I've chosen for my name to be honored. The people

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<v Speaker 3>you rescued by your great power and strong hand are

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<v Speaker 3>your servants. Oh Lord, please hear my prayer. Listen to

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<v Speaker 3>the prayers of those who delight in honoring you. Please

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<v Speaker 3>grant me success today by making the King favorable to me,

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<v Speaker 3>put it into his heart to be kind to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And that ends by saying that in those days, I

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<v Speaker 3>was the King's cupbear.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a quick eleven verses here, but it's a lot here.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, Nehemiah is obviously writing this first person. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>King's cupbear. He is a Jew, and here he is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, inquiring on the people back in Jerusalem. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's remind our listeners that the Babylonians captured the Jerusalem

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<v Speaker 1>and it was the Babylonian's reign and then the Jews

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<v Speaker 1>were exiled. And remember back in the Book of Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>five point thirty eight BC was the Persians coming in

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<v Speaker 1>and taking over the five thirty nine five thirty nine BC.

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<v Speaker 1>it was actually King Cyrus, who was King of the Persians,

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<v Speaker 1>who decided to say, hey, any Jews who want to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to Jerusalem can do so. And not everybody did, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, it's interesting how so many times in

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I don't know, fifteen countries, you know. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>and all those things. Right, So I've been to those

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of things, you know, a lot of injustices,

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<v Speaker 1>just wept, and I think to myself, like, Okay, God,

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<v Speaker 1>God weeps all the time, right, So so for everything

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm placed in front of that is bad, that

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<v Speaker 1>God weeps for all of it. Right. When I was

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<v Speaker 1>in India, for example, and Egypt, they discard their elderly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's pretty crazy, right. And even though I was

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<v Speaker 1>go to transform one dot org, transform the number one

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<v Speaker 1>dot org and he just just donates something. Become a hero.

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<v Speaker 1>Hero is you know, forty nine bucks a month or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. So anyway, bottom line is I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about the fact that probably many people

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<v Speaker 1>have heard, hey, Jerusalem's walls are in ruin, your ancestral

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<v Speaker 1>But Neamiah doesn't get moved. I don't think by the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he knows, you know, his cousin, his cousin

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<v Speaker 1>lives in Jerusalem. Oh no, my cousin's going to be unprotected. Neamiah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think has moved because of God, because what does

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<v Speaker 1>he do. He prays and says, even my family is guilty,

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<v Speaker 1>He's referring to the big picture. He's saying, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>is remnant what they once were. We were a great nation.

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<v Speaker 1>this destruction and banishment and exile and scattering, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>all our ancestors have all contributed to this. We brought

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<v Speaker 1>this upon ourselves. He's taking responsibility for his own lineage,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's saying, even my family has done wrong. We

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<v Speaker 1>have all sinned. And then he quotes this promise, and dude,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's one thing to read it and say, oh, nam,

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Have you ever been in a situation where things

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, especially for him considering what he had witnessed

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that he goes back, talks about all that,

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yes, right, yeah, And he actually said, he actually said,

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<v Speaker 1>he quoted a scripture and he said, so the promise

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<v Speaker 1>obey my commands and live by them, and even if

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's hundreds of miles away and he's believing this

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, if we as a people came together and

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<v Speaker 1>returned to God, then God will bring us back. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what Jerusalem needs, This is what the temple needs. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what God. It's time for your you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And it may seem way too big for you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of something, to accomplish something so great?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? How can I transform my workplace for Jesus?

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<v Speaker 1>How can I start praying at meal times or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>of a dream, But don't ever underestimate that vision because

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<v Speaker 1>God can use you, one step at a time to

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And I would even say, like, if there is

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<v Speaker 3>Republican his heartbroke for those people. But I imagine that

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<v Speaker 3>remember there was a certain type of students that I

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<v Speaker 3>just certain students I was like, man, I just feel

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<v Speaker 3>the youth pastor at the time when he met me,

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, hey, you seem like you can get

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<v Speaker 3>far from God, the kids who maybe had you know,

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<v Speaker 3>on the outside, were one way, but an inside were

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<v Speaker 3>And over the years, you know, there's been many other

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<v Speaker 3>situations where God legitimately broke my heart for a person

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<v Speaker 3>or a group of people, And so don't neglect that

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<v Speaker 3>nudge that God has or maybe just the interaction you

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<v Speaker 3>have with those people. Even my wife, my wife and

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<v Speaker 3>It's just chaos around her. I mean, they're worshiping God,

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<v Speaker 3>they're lifting their.

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<v Speaker 2>Art and she's like, this to me is like heaven.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm giving them for a moment an hour to just

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<v Speaker 3>do something different and have fun like that is. But

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<v Speaker 3>God broke her heart at a young age for that

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<v Speaker 3>group of people and then has opened the doors up

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<v Speaker 3>weave listeners. I'm sure who have a heart for a

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<v Speaker 3>certain you know struggle, maybe you can be helping those

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<v Speaker 3>who are less fortunate. That's why maybe serving in something

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<v Speaker 3>like a food pantry or transform one and being a

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<v Speaker 3>hero and that like God like, don't don't underestimate the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that God has put that person or that group

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<v Speaker 3>of people on your heart.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that also reminds me as you're saying, like

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<v Speaker 1>what what does your heart break for? My mind always

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to shape shape, you know, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>acrosstic so Rick Warren a long time ago came out.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, there's even a test where you can go

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<v Speaker 1>online and just google it and saddle back church and

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<v Speaker 1>the shape stands for shape, says stands for spiritual gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go on line and to actually take a

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual gifts test and realize, like you know, like you're

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<v Speaker 1>gifted in some area. And then h stands for your heart.

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<v Speaker 1>And the question is exactly what you just said, what

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<v Speaker 1>does your heart break for? You know, like where does

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<v Speaker 1>your heart lead? Because for different people it's different things, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I was also a person who my heart broke for

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<v Speaker 1>teenagers right back when I was coming out of a

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<v Speaker 1>really difficult situation as a teenager, which is the reason why.

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<v Speaker 1>And then as abilities, So God has given every single

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<v Speaker 1>person abilities, just natural abilities. And people who are super

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<v Speaker 1>great at football, for instance, they usually become chaplains, right

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<v Speaker 1>like Luther el Us from the Lions. Uh you know

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<v Speaker 1>he he retired from the Lions and he became the

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<v Speaker 1>chaplain for the Denver Broncos. And now he's a coach.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now what he does is he does ministry.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh you know, same with John Kittna and and and

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<v Speaker 1>the previous Lions members that that have come and gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that that I'm familiar with through our friend Dave Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>And then so you know this abilities, natural abilities, and

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<v Speaker 1>then peace stands for personality. You know, God has wired

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<v Speaker 1>you in a certain way and and based on who

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<v Speaker 1>you are, based on uh you know, some personalities have

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<v Speaker 1>this uh you know, have like a pastoral carrying sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like counseling heart. Some people of their personalities are

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<v Speaker 1>not that way, but that that could play into it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then he is your experiences. Uh what

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<v Speaker 1>what experiences have you had? Uh? For instance, my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Many people don't know this, but my wife and I

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<v Speaker 1>had two different miscarriages between my first and second child,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, it was you know, hard on me, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but not nearly as hard as it is on a mom.

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<v Speaker 1>And and I tried my best to uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>uh be that right there with her during that time.

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<v Speaker 1>But even now, so many years later, goodness, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just gosh, I mean, how many years later and she

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<v Speaker 1>still has a heart for people who go through that

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<v Speaker 1>because of her experiences, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So she probably can minister to people in such a

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<v Speaker 2>great way because of what she went through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, even what is it, Corinthians?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that tells us that we should comfort others

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<v Speaker 1>with the same comfort that we ourselves have received from

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<v Speaker 1>God and so and so. But that's based on experiences

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<v Speaker 1>and so so sometimes your experience can determine your ministry

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<v Speaker 1>and that and that's a great example of that. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to, if you're interested in that, go

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<v Speaker 1>online and and and in google it. It's called shape

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<v Speaker 1>with a nacrosstic Rick Warren, Uh, spiritual gifts, heart, abilities,

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<v Speaker 1>personality and experiences and uh, and Nehemiah is a great

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<v Speaker 1>lead into that because he's going to be called to

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<v Speaker 1>this very specific assignment, and we're going to find out

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<v Speaker 1>that God has used all of those things in his

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<v Speaker 1>life to perfectly and strategically place him to do this job.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited for tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, well that's about our time, so hopefully we

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<v Speaker 1>will see you then. All the Bible guys, yep you