1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:02,757 Welcome to Padel Smash Academy. 2 00:00:02,757 --> 00:00:04,275 We are Old Things Padel. 3 00:00:04,275 --> 00:00:04,882 Thanks, Ryan. 4 00:00:04,882 --> 00:00:07,918 Thanks for coming on, uh, uh, the Padel Smash Academy. 5 00:00:07,918 --> 00:00:09,739 And why don't you talk to 6 00:00:15,700 --> 00:00:17,979 us a little bit about how you were introduced to Padel? 7 00:00:19,509 --> 00:00:19,900 Yeah. 8 00:00:19,900 --> 00:00:22,870 So, um, you know, I, I grew up in a tennis family. 9 00:00:22,900 --> 00:00:23,820 I played tennis. 10 00:00:23,850 --> 00:00:29,609 I coached tennis, um, all aspects of it from juniors, colleges, pros. 11 00:00:29,979 --> 00:00:35,950 Um, and, uh, I, in 2020, I got out of coaching, um, kind of fully as a full 12 00:00:35,950 --> 00:00:37,729 time career and I entered the nonprofit. 13 00:00:38,250 --> 00:00:41,420 space and I became the CEO of Youth Tennis San Diego. 14 00:00:41,930 --> 00:00:47,220 It's a big uh organization started in the 50s and um it has 15 00:00:47,220 --> 00:00:50,360 a large outreach component to it to grow the game of tennis. 16 00:00:50,740 --> 00:00:54,719 It also operates and owns the Barnes Tennis Center which is a 17 00:00:54,739 --> 00:00:56,720 very big facility in San Diego. 18 00:00:57,010 --> 00:01:03,505 So, I oversee the facility and um in 2020 when I got the job um I had a 19 00:01:03,515 --> 00:01:07,255 coach, his name is Ascon Luderoth, who's one of the partners of Tactica. 20 00:01:07,735 --> 00:01:11,884 Um, he said to me, Ryan, you know, there's some space here at Barnes that 21 00:01:11,884 --> 00:01:14,065 we think would be great for some Padel. 22 00:01:14,684 --> 00:01:17,605 And, and I said, okay, great, what is that? 23 00:01:17,605 --> 00:01:22,005 And, um, uh, he goes, oh, you don't know what it is? 24 00:01:22,005 --> 00:01:24,714 Yes, it's massive sports, you know, all over the country. 25 00:01:24,714 --> 00:01:28,005 It's like, okay, well, I, I, I'm open to it. 26 00:01:28,015 --> 00:01:29,735 You know, let me know, give me a presentation. 27 00:01:30,250 --> 00:01:31,660 You know, bring something to the office. 28 00:01:31,660 --> 00:01:33,550 And so, he came to my office. 29 00:01:33,550 --> 00:01:35,420 He showed me some videos. 30 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:37,270 Kind of gave me like a one pager. 31 00:01:37,740 --> 00:01:40,210 And I said, that looks really cool. 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,880 I love doubles, right? 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,570 I think I was probably a better doubles player. 34 00:01:43,980 --> 00:01:45,640 Um, Padel is doubles. 35 00:01:46,060 --> 00:01:50,490 And I said, I'm interested, but, you know, I mean, look at this 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,810 court, you know, what is this? 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,190 And he said, okay, well a friend of mine has a court in his backyard. 38 00:01:55,670 --> 00:01:58,280 Um, you want to go and play, can I bring you up? 39 00:01:58,809 --> 00:02:02,669 Um, sure enough, it was Gabriel Perez Crib, who's our chairman 40 00:02:02,669 --> 00:02:04,369 and co founder of Tactica. 41 00:02:04,809 --> 00:02:09,750 So I go to the house, I walk down the steps, he's got some 42 00:02:09,799 --> 00:02:13,629 amazing players there playing, you know, and it's just beautiful. 43 00:02:14,039 --> 00:02:16,889 And I was like, okay, I got to play, you know, I'm, I'm a competitor. 44 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,490 And um, anyways, I got to play and they gave me a, uh, you know, 45 00:02:22,490 --> 00:02:26,250 they pitched a, uh, a presentation and a potential partnership. 46 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:27,799 And here we are. 47 00:02:28,060 --> 00:02:30,269 Wow, that's exciting. 48 00:02:31,140 --> 00:02:32,049 Yeah, that's how it started. 49 00:02:32,049 --> 00:02:34,870 So now, was there any other Padel clubs at that time? 50 00:02:36,670 --> 00:02:38,450 Well, nothing during COVID, right? 51 00:02:38,450 --> 00:02:39,590 So everything was shut down. 52 00:02:39,799 --> 00:02:40,980 All clubs were shut down. 53 00:02:41,410 --> 00:02:46,750 Um, There, So there were two courts at a YMCA. 54 00:02:47,070 --> 00:02:47,310 Wow. 55 00:02:47,310 --> 00:02:48,090 In San Diego. 56 00:02:48,630 --> 00:02:49,780 Uh, I didn't play on them. 57 00:02:49,780 --> 00:02:50,609 I didn't know about them. 58 00:02:50,620 --> 00:02:51,850 But they had been shut down. 59 00:02:51,850 --> 00:02:54,380 But I, you know, there was a community that was started. 60 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,380 So when we opened the, the, when we opened Tactica at the Barnes Tennis 61 00:02:58,380 --> 00:03:01,230 Center, um, we started with three courts. 62 00:03:01,410 --> 00:03:03,380 We're very close to the border, right? 63 00:03:03,380 --> 00:03:06,900 So Padel, you know, we, we had a, probably a little bit of a headstart 64 00:03:06,909 --> 00:03:11,640 than our club in Los Angeles or Northern California because 65 00:03:11,679 --> 00:03:12,680 people already knew about Padel. 66 00:03:13,380 --> 00:03:16,040 Um, so we put three courts in, booked all day. 67 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:16,740 Wow. 68 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,300 You know, I couldn't, I couldn't get a court. 69 00:03:18,580 --> 00:03:20,580 I was literally, you know, inviting. 70 00:03:20,935 --> 00:03:24,625 My, my friends that I could play with at six 30 in the morning, seven 71 00:03:25,075 --> 00:03:28,105 before we would even open the club so I could have a court to play. 72 00:03:28,140 --> 00:03:28,600 You were hooked. 73 00:03:28,780 --> 00:03:29,280 You were hooked. 74 00:03:29,905 --> 00:03:30,475 I was hooked. 75 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:30,600 Yeah. 76 00:03:30,605 --> 00:03:30,835 Yeah. 77 00:03:30,835 --> 00:03:35,845 I mean, I've been playing tournaments now and um, and so then we put four courts. 78 00:03:35,845 --> 00:03:37,765 Now we have seven courts, so, wow. 79 00:03:37,765 --> 00:03:38,920 So you have seven courts? 80 00:03:39,175 --> 00:03:40,135 Seven courts in total. 81 00:03:40,135 --> 00:03:40,885 Now at, at Tika. 82 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,105 Tika, San Diego. 83 00:03:43,105 --> 00:03:44,305 We have seven courts. 84 00:03:44,310 --> 00:03:44,480 Uh. 85 00:03:45,705 --> 00:03:49,905 In Los Angeles, we have four courts and in Northern California 86 00:03:49,905 --> 00:03:51,025 right now, we have four courts. 87 00:03:51,295 --> 00:03:55,625 I wanted to ask you about that because I'm part of the project that we're 88 00:03:55,625 --> 00:03:59,285 putting some courts up in San Francisco and I know you guys are doing something 89 00:03:59,285 --> 00:04:00,925 in the Pacifica University, right? 90 00:04:02,205 --> 00:04:05,135 Yeah, yeah, so we have University of the Pacific. 91 00:04:05,215 --> 00:04:06,605 Yeah, University of the Pacific, yeah. 92 00:04:07,085 --> 00:04:10,955 Yeah, we're doing, uh, we have four Padel courts that should be open in 93 00:04:11,580 --> 00:04:14,110 The next couple of weeks, hopefully, just waiting on the, on the permit. 94 00:04:14,750 --> 00:04:15,260 Fantastic. 95 00:04:15,310 --> 00:04:18,740 Eight pickleball courts there, and then we just signed an agreement with 96 00:04:18,740 --> 00:04:24,489 Lifetime Activities, and we will put 40 courts in across the Bay Area with, uh, 97 00:04:24,779 --> 00:04:26,330 the six tennis clubs that they have. 98 00:04:26,860 --> 00:04:27,610 Beautiful. 99 00:04:27,735 --> 00:04:31,810 And, and let me know in, in LA I know you guys did, uh, you make up an agreement 100 00:04:31,810 --> 00:04:33,970 with the UCLA or one of the universities. 101 00:04:33,970 --> 00:04:35,620 Is that possible that you put some courts? 102 00:04:36,250 --> 00:04:36,520 No. 103 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:36,700 No. 104 00:04:36,705 --> 00:04:38,470 I wish that would be a, that would be a dream. 105 00:04:38,470 --> 00:04:38,770 No. 106 00:04:38,950 --> 00:04:43,510 Um, we are partnered with, uh, a EG, dignity Health Sports Park. 107 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:46,960 It's at the, the Major League soccer team, the LA Galaxy site. 108 00:04:47,110 --> 00:04:47,590 I got it. 109 00:04:47,590 --> 00:04:48,040 I got it. 110 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:48,490 Good. 111 00:04:49,060 --> 00:04:49,600 Excellent. 112 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,430 I mean, that, that's super exciting. 113 00:04:51,435 --> 00:04:54,280 I mean, having entrepreneurs like you making Padel growth 114 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:55,270 here in the United States. 115 00:04:55,770 --> 00:05:00,640 So where do you see, my background is very similar to yours, you know, it's tennis 116 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,169 and then I moved to Padel and all that. 117 00:05:02,500 --> 00:05:04,810 Where do you see Padel going from here now? 118 00:05:04,859 --> 00:05:07,760 I mean, now you're, you're in the, in the thick of everything. 119 00:05:08,950 --> 00:05:11,230 Where do I see it growing and going? 120 00:05:12,119 --> 00:05:17,380 Um, so I think it's going to be, um, you know, I, I think we're going to 121 00:05:17,390 --> 00:05:21,010 have a ton of courts here in the United States within the next five years. 122 00:05:21,500 --> 00:05:24,189 Um, I think it's going to, um. 123 00:05:24,590 --> 00:05:27,640 It's going to require, you know, a lot of capital, a lot of investment 124 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,240 groups coming in to be able to do this. 125 00:05:29,260 --> 00:05:31,020 I'm, you know, I'm speaking to the choir. 126 00:05:31,370 --> 00:05:35,600 You guys are a part of this because it's not an easy thing to do. 127 00:05:35,670 --> 00:05:39,130 While constructing a court is easy, it's a process, right? 128 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,449 It's not like pickleball. 129 00:05:40,855 --> 00:05:44,545 Where you just go put a court down, paint some lines, you're done. 130 00:05:44,965 --> 00:05:47,395 You gotta get a permit, you've gotta construct it. 131 00:05:47,395 --> 00:05:49,045 You've gotta build awareness, right? 132 00:05:49,045 --> 00:05:52,435 So, um, as you'll see in the, in the Bay area, maybe hope, maybe, hopefully 133 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,155 not, but in Los Angeles, in our in, there's not a lot of players right there. 134 00:05:56,155 --> 00:05:57,865 Not many people know what it is. 135 00:05:58,045 --> 00:05:59,065 There's a lot of traffic. 136 00:05:59,305 --> 00:06:02,095 You've gotta, you've got a lot to do, do a lot of different things. 137 00:06:02,095 --> 00:06:07,585 So I think it's gonna depend on the areas of the country, um, what you're gonna see. 138 00:06:07,585 --> 00:06:09,055 Grow fast, grow slowly. 139 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:13,120 But regardless it's gonna grow because it's a social sport. 140 00:06:13,510 --> 00:06:17,489 It's a spectator sport It's a participatory sport and it's a it's 141 00:06:17,489 --> 00:06:22,000 one of the best sports in the world From from from the permitting point of 142 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,379 view in the West Coast or especially San Diego Is it difficult to if you 143 00:06:26,379 --> 00:06:28,210 have the capital to open a court? 144 00:06:28,210 --> 00:06:31,120 I mean that because here in Florida it takes forever, you know with the 145 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,515 hurricanes and all that Is it difficult in the west coast to get those permits going? 146 00:06:37,285 --> 00:06:38,785 Yeah, it is difficult. 147 00:06:39,235 --> 00:06:39,535 Yeah. 148 00:06:39,885 --> 00:06:40,205 Okay. 149 00:06:40,495 --> 00:06:41,344 Yeah, it's not easy. 150 00:06:41,345 --> 00:06:44,985 You know, you have, if you're in San Diego or if you're near the coast, 151 00:06:44,985 --> 00:06:46,035 you have the Coastal Commission. 152 00:06:46,574 --> 00:06:46,814 Right? 153 00:06:46,815 --> 00:06:49,234 So you have the city, you have the Coastal Commission, you have all of 154 00:06:49,234 --> 00:06:50,955 the requirements that you have to do. 155 00:06:51,464 --> 00:06:55,275 Uh, then you have general, you know, you have to have a general contractor. 156 00:06:55,275 --> 00:06:59,155 You have to submit your designs and your drawings to the city. 157 00:06:59,595 --> 00:07:04,049 And while we know you know, constructing courts, you don't need all this stuff. 158 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:04,520 Yes. 159 00:07:04,659 --> 00:07:07,679 They're going to say, well, you need X, Y, and Z, which is ridiculous, right? 160 00:07:07,679 --> 00:07:10,759 So there's, in my opinion, this is my opinion alone. 161 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:11,030 I don't want. 162 00:07:11,510 --> 00:07:14,880 Some arrows in my back, but they want you to, you know, construct 163 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,390 a, uh, you know, apartment building for a slab of concrete with a cork. 164 00:07:19,519 --> 00:07:23,469 You know, actually we just built three courts here and exactly that. 165 00:07:23,479 --> 00:07:28,530 They made us make put 12, uh, 12 feet pilings in each court deep. 166 00:07:28,989 --> 00:07:31,850 I mean, same thing that you will build a four story, you know, 167 00:07:31,850 --> 00:07:33,680 apartment, uh, just for one court. 168 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,570 It's, it's just crazy, but hopefully eventually they will, 169 00:07:37,980 --> 00:07:39,384 you know, come to their senses. 170 00:07:39,545 --> 00:07:41,485 That's going to be the growth of the sport, right? 171 00:07:41,575 --> 00:07:44,365 It's this growing the sports that people are playing. 172 00:07:44,825 --> 00:07:46,335 It's the whole ecosystem, right? 173 00:07:46,335 --> 00:07:49,284 So you go to a, you know, I'm going to town hall meetings to 174 00:07:49,284 --> 00:07:52,614 talk about Padel so I can get it into parks and recreation groups. 175 00:07:53,365 --> 00:07:55,954 Um, and you, you know, you have to go through that process. 176 00:07:55,955 --> 00:07:59,174 It's not just about the sport and people actually playing. 177 00:07:59,644 --> 00:08:01,064 It's the government level. 178 00:08:01,064 --> 00:08:02,344 It's the political level. 179 00:08:02,754 --> 00:08:05,665 It's everything to establish it in this country. 180 00:08:06,284 --> 00:08:06,695 So. 181 00:08:07,034 --> 00:08:08,215 It's going to take a lot of people. 182 00:08:08,215 --> 00:08:10,705 It's going to take a lot of time and people like us that 183 00:08:10,705 --> 00:08:12,525 are willing to go out and do it. 184 00:08:12,555 --> 00:08:13,974 But yeah, it's, it's fun. 185 00:08:13,974 --> 00:08:18,534 I think I made a comment, you know, probably not a, um, a smart comment 186 00:08:18,585 --> 00:08:19,794 on one of my last city calls. 187 00:08:19,794 --> 00:08:21,724 I said, so where's the escalator? 188 00:08:21,724 --> 00:08:22,654 Where's the elevator? 189 00:08:25,195 --> 00:08:26,075 Nobody said anything. 190 00:08:27,670 --> 00:08:31,810 Um, I, so I got a question, who's your market down there in the West Coast? 191 00:08:31,810 --> 00:08:35,789 Because here in the East Coast, uh, down here, Southeast, uh, in the Florida, 192 00:08:35,789 --> 00:08:41,380 Miami, I mean, it's mostly, uh, first generation Europeans, uh, also first, 193 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,320 uh, second generation, first and second generation, uh, Latin Americans. 194 00:08:44,770 --> 00:08:47,130 Uh, so who's your market down there in the West Coast? 195 00:08:49,070 --> 00:08:53,660 I'm saying everybody and all, and, um, you know, for us with. 196 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,800 You know, partnering with tennis clubs and groups like that. 197 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,650 It's racket sports. 198 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:00,810 So our market is racket sports. 199 00:09:00,830 --> 00:09:02,780 Um, but again, it's everybody. 200 00:09:02,789 --> 00:09:06,270 So, um, you know, are the case study in San Diego is, 201 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,410 you know, it's kind of funny. 202 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,649 We know when the Kuwaitis are coming. 203 00:09:10,660 --> 00:09:12,650 We know when the guys from Dubai are coming. 204 00:09:12,660 --> 00:09:15,840 We know when the Scandinavians are coming because they all kind of book 205 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,530 together because it's a social sport. 206 00:09:17,900 --> 00:09:21,000 Um, but now, you know, being in business for a couple of years, 207 00:09:22,035 --> 00:09:24,715 You're, you're getting a lot of Americans and you're getting a lot 208 00:09:24,715 --> 00:09:26,205 of locals starting to play the game. 209 00:09:26,765 --> 00:09:31,735 Um, the more that they see it, you know, online, if they see it on 210 00:09:31,745 --> 00:09:35,795 a documentary or, you know, now they're starting to try it for us. 211 00:09:35,795 --> 00:09:38,874 We have 25 tennis courts and 19 pickleball courts as well. 212 00:09:39,205 --> 00:09:43,860 So Eventually they see Padel and now, you know, it might not be right 213 00:09:43,860 --> 00:09:46,990 when they see it, but over time they try it and then they get hooked. 214 00:09:47,010 --> 00:09:50,110 So do you see, do you see a lot of, do you see a lot of traction 215 00:09:50,119 --> 00:09:55,680 with multiple generation Americans, uh, now starting to play Padel? 216 00:09:56,329 --> 00:09:56,699 Yeah. 217 00:09:57,130 --> 00:09:57,549 Oh yeah. 218 00:09:57,749 --> 00:09:58,720 Yeah, you see everybody now. 219 00:09:58,780 --> 00:09:59,090 Yeah. 220 00:09:59,260 --> 00:10:03,710 And the great thing is when we can go out and see seven courts full of people 221 00:10:03,710 --> 00:10:05,440 we don't know, you know it's growing. 222 00:10:05,790 --> 00:10:06,160 Yeah. 223 00:10:06,370 --> 00:10:10,930 And, and, and you hit it, uh, on the nail in the head right there now. 224 00:10:11,199 --> 00:10:15,420 And I see that in the Northeast where country clubs are taking 225 00:10:15,420 --> 00:10:18,340 some tennis courts away and putting pickable and Padel, and now 226 00:10:18,340 --> 00:10:19,670 they're becoming racket sports. 227 00:10:19,670 --> 00:10:22,799 And then you get the crossover in between people playing tennis. 228 00:10:22,799 --> 00:10:26,170 They see Padel, they want to try it out and then they get hooked on all that. 229 00:10:26,170 --> 00:10:29,400 And I think what you guys are doing there, it's fantastic because now 230 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,230 you get all three different racket sports into one place and people 231 00:10:32,230 --> 00:10:33,709 can try all different sports. 232 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:33,980 Time. 233 00:10:34,385 --> 00:10:38,075 Really make the population of the Padel world grow faster. 234 00:10:38,225 --> 00:10:39,015 I think that's key. 235 00:10:39,135 --> 00:10:40,235 Yeah, that's the key. 236 00:10:40,335 --> 00:10:41,885 I mean, that's fantastic. 237 00:10:41,895 --> 00:10:42,725 Good, good idea. 238 00:10:43,025 --> 00:10:43,415 So. 239 00:10:44,055 --> 00:10:48,084 Tell us the, the, the, the, you know, the big white elephant on, on the room, 240 00:10:48,094 --> 00:10:53,074 the, the, the PPL all star game coming up to, you know, next, next weekend, uh, 241 00:10:53,154 --> 00:10:54,805 onto your club, tell us all about it. 242 00:10:54,805 --> 00:10:56,364 How did it come out there and all that? 243 00:10:56,374 --> 00:10:59,165 I mean, who, who was the one, how did you attract them to you? 244 00:10:59,305 --> 00:11:02,535 Well, before we get into that, let's start with the stingrays, right? 245 00:11:02,535 --> 00:11:03,504 Yes, exactly. 246 00:11:03,614 --> 00:11:04,805 How did that come to be? 247 00:11:04,834 --> 00:11:07,564 Um, how do you put together a franchise? 248 00:11:07,594 --> 00:11:10,244 Um, and why don't you tell us a little bit about that? 249 00:11:11,334 --> 00:11:13,275 Yeah, so we have a great partnership. 250 00:11:13,449 --> 00:11:15,900 group here in, in Tactica in San Diego. 251 00:11:15,900 --> 00:11:18,969 So we have, you know, there's, there's several groups of our, there's a 252 00:11:18,969 --> 00:11:25,060 group of us and, um, very connected with, um, Padel, the whole Padel 253 00:11:25,089 --> 00:11:30,120 industry, whether that's in Europe, South America, uh, United States, every 254 00:11:30,130 --> 00:11:34,079 aspect of Padel, we probably have our hands in or have relationships. 255 00:11:34,130 --> 00:11:39,080 So we knew that this league It was a dream, you know, and I think, 256 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,060 uh, Gabriel Perez, our chairman and co founder was a part of that. 257 00:11:43,060 --> 00:11:45,619 Those initial discussions from my understanding. 258 00:11:45,619 --> 00:11:50,159 So we knew that it was coming out, um, this league and we were offered 259 00:11:50,159 --> 00:11:52,050 an opportunity to buy a franchise. 260 00:11:52,469 --> 00:11:56,110 Um, we said we are not going to be the first franchise, 261 00:11:56,730 --> 00:11:57,980 uh, but we'll be the second. 262 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,010 So we knew what was going on, you know, well before it was out there in public. 263 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,285 Um, but, uh, you know, we just believe in it because not only just for the, 264 00:12:07,295 --> 00:12:12,595 the professional, you know, and the opportunities and money and, uh, all 265 00:12:12,595 --> 00:12:16,275 the great things professional sports do, but for us, it helps our ecosystem 266 00:12:16,275 --> 00:12:20,274 of building and growing Padel, um, specifically in the West coast, right? 267 00:12:20,645 --> 00:12:25,215 So I run, uh, I'm the tournament director of a WTA tournament of ATP tournament. 268 00:12:25,665 --> 00:12:25,945 Really? 269 00:12:25,945 --> 00:12:28,265 Why do you do those things other than wanting to make money? 270 00:12:28,725 --> 00:12:30,005 You grow the game, right? 271 00:12:30,005 --> 00:12:34,670 You have kids in the stands that say, I want to be Cocoa golf. 272 00:12:34,790 --> 00:12:35,560 I want to be that. 273 00:12:35,860 --> 00:12:38,210 So for us, that's a part of it as well. 274 00:12:38,210 --> 00:12:41,699 And it's a part of that whole ecosystem of making sure Padel 275 00:12:41,699 --> 00:12:43,300 is growing in the United States. 276 00:12:43,460 --> 00:12:45,550 Um, and we can grow Tactica along with it. 277 00:12:46,010 --> 00:12:50,009 So that, that's the, the, you know, the short version of why, why the stingray. 278 00:12:50,010 --> 00:12:50,270 Great. 279 00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:51,639 Great. 280 00:12:51,639 --> 00:12:51,869 Great. 281 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,430 Now I looked at the PPL as a success. 282 00:12:55,780 --> 00:12:56,780 And they gave the U. 283 00:12:56,780 --> 00:12:57,130 S. 284 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,460 and international players a platform to compete in. 285 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,930 Um, are there any new changes in 2024 for the PPL? 286 00:13:06,110 --> 00:13:07,370 Yeah, a lot of new changes. 287 00:13:07,740 --> 00:13:09,449 Drastically different than 23. 288 00:13:09,540 --> 00:13:11,570 So 23 was kind of a shotgun start. 289 00:13:11,889 --> 00:13:12,560 Let's go. 290 00:13:12,639 --> 00:13:13,570 How do we get this done? 291 00:13:14,049 --> 00:13:16,700 Now we have a management group inside out. 292 00:13:17,020 --> 00:13:20,400 Sports management is, is, is running the league. 293 00:13:20,745 --> 00:13:24,155 Um, they were very successful with Major League Pickleball, very successful 294 00:13:24,185 --> 00:13:25,745 in the tennis industry as well. 295 00:13:25,955 --> 00:13:29,255 So we have some sophistication around the changes that we're making. 296 00:13:29,645 --> 00:13:31,655 Uh, we're going to have a full calendar season. 297 00:13:31,985 --> 00:13:35,275 So the season will start in April and in November. 298 00:13:35,670 --> 00:13:39,640 Uh, with a lot of different activations, you know, around those things to 299 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,160 continue to to grow awareness and have enough, uh, collateral assets 300 00:13:44,170 --> 00:13:45,880 to to build the sport in the league. 301 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,769 Um, as you see, we have internet, more international players joining the league. 302 00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:53,209 So we have a different roster system. 303 00:13:53,630 --> 00:13:57,830 Uh, San Diego alone, you know, we were able to bring on four of the some of 304 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,860 the best players, including others. 305 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:00,880 We're announcing now. 306 00:14:01,350 --> 00:14:04,180 Um, I'm extremely excited about Lamperty coming. 307 00:14:04,815 --> 00:14:07,885 I'm new to the sport, but whenever I would go on YouTube, I would always 308 00:14:07,925 --> 00:14:14,065 look for him because his style, his, uh, yeah, he's with fans, his passion. 309 00:14:14,065 --> 00:14:18,395 So I'm when we signed him, I was really pumped amongst the other players. 310 00:14:18,395 --> 00:14:23,794 But, um, you know, so you see this talent come now to North America and us soil, 311 00:14:24,144 --> 00:14:25,385 that's just going to grow the game. 312 00:14:25,825 --> 00:14:30,405 Um, we have the PPL all star game this Saturday on tennis channel. 313 00:14:30,804 --> 00:14:31,815 That's going to be huge. 314 00:14:32,315 --> 00:14:36,485 Um, And so, yeah, I mean, there's so many things we could talk about that. 315 00:14:36,965 --> 00:14:39,035 So you're saying you signed up Miguel Lamparty. 316 00:14:39,085 --> 00:14:43,184 Uh, can you tell us who else you signed, uh, signed up before the draft? 317 00:14:43,185 --> 00:14:44,485 You got Jacobo Blanco too, right? 318 00:14:44,485 --> 00:14:45,364 Jacobo, yeah. 319 00:14:45,365 --> 00:14:46,235 Yeah, Jacobo. 320 00:14:46,555 --> 00:14:49,605 Yeah, we had Jacobo in 2023 along with Matias Almada. 321 00:14:50,194 --> 00:14:52,125 Those two players were with the Stingrays. 322 00:14:52,145 --> 00:14:53,045 We've re signed them. 323 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,190 Um, they didn't lose a match last year together as a team. 324 00:14:56,190 --> 00:14:57,540 So excited about them. 325 00:14:58,010 --> 00:15:00,490 Uh, Maxi Sanchez as well. 326 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:01,670 Oh, wow. 327 00:15:01,739 --> 00:15:01,910 That's good. 328 00:15:02,380 --> 00:15:04,010 I mean, you guys want to win. 329 00:15:04,150 --> 00:15:05,940 You guys have big weapons, baby. 330 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:06,710 I like it. 331 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:07,760 Yeah. 332 00:15:07,810 --> 00:15:11,700 Our women, Lucia and Carmen, you know, Lucia is foreign world. 333 00:15:11,700 --> 00:15:15,660 Carmen is, is young, but, um, you know, she's the future. 334 00:15:16,170 --> 00:15:20,190 Uh, we're really excited about our team, but the great thing is you see 335 00:15:20,190 --> 00:15:21,920 the other teams who they are announcing. 336 00:15:22,425 --> 00:15:25,535 Just as, you know, talented, just as good players, which is good, 337 00:15:25,685 --> 00:15:28,435 which means that the league has got the best players in the world. 338 00:15:28,925 --> 00:15:32,345 That's going to drive Americans to want to develop over time. 339 00:15:32,345 --> 00:15:33,285 It's going to take some time. 340 00:15:33,694 --> 00:15:35,034 That's going to drive Mexicans. 341 00:15:35,034 --> 00:15:38,244 That's going to drive the rest of the world to say, Hey, you know, just like the 342 00:15:38,245 --> 00:15:39,945 other sports, we want to be in the PPL. 343 00:15:40,174 --> 00:15:40,524 Yeah. 344 00:15:40,735 --> 00:15:44,735 So Ryan, let me tell you, uh, the format for, for 2024 is going to be the same 345 00:15:44,745 --> 00:15:48,615 things where they just go to one place, all the teams and they just play it out. 346 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,470 Or how's it going to be? 347 00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:52,010 Yeah, so it'll be different. 348 00:15:52,010 --> 00:15:57,520 So with 12 franchises in 2024, we'll have a Western conference, 349 00:15:57,849 --> 00:15:59,239 we'll have an Eastern conference. 350 00:15:59,820 --> 00:16:02,190 So you'll have Western play, just like the NBA. 351 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:03,429 You'll have Eastern play. 352 00:16:03,980 --> 00:16:06,499 They'll all duke it out over the course of the calendar. 353 00:16:07,010 --> 00:16:09,970 Then we'll qualify for the conference championships. 354 00:16:10,410 --> 00:16:12,160 That then qualify for the PPL Cup. 355 00:16:12,650 --> 00:16:16,150 So, but they, they play home and away each other and then they 356 00:16:16,150 --> 00:16:18,290 just, is that the way it works or? 357 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:19,420 No, not yet. 358 00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:21,260 Not until we can get enough facilities. 359 00:16:21,309 --> 00:16:25,329 So what we'll do is for the west and the east, they'll choose one location 360 00:16:25,709 --> 00:16:27,509 to play these conference matches. 361 00:16:27,509 --> 00:16:29,739 These, this, this round robin, if you'd call it. 362 00:16:30,189 --> 00:16:33,569 Um, and in the east, they'll choose a location. 363 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,400 I, we don't have those locations yet. 364 00:16:35,785 --> 00:16:37,444 We're obviously hoping it's San Diego. 365 00:16:37,765 --> 00:16:39,074 Um, please, Miami. 366 00:16:39,105 --> 00:16:39,724 Miami. 367 00:16:39,724 --> 00:16:40,724 We'll beg you. 368 00:16:40,745 --> 00:16:41,474 Miami. 369 00:16:41,665 --> 00:16:41,925 Okay? 370 00:16:43,194 --> 00:16:43,894 It makes sense. 371 00:16:43,895 --> 00:16:47,764 I don't make those decisions, but with the, uh, the followers and the amount 372 00:16:47,764 --> 00:16:49,275 of players, Miami would be awesome. 373 00:16:49,785 --> 00:16:53,005 Um, but, uh, yeah, so that's, you're right. 374 00:16:53,364 --> 00:16:58,074 They'll all come to one location for the West, one location for the East, etc. 375 00:16:58,824 --> 00:17:02,194 Eventually, the dream is that every team has their own site. 376 00:17:02,634 --> 00:17:05,855 Um, You know, a couple of the teams, a few of the teams now 377 00:17:05,885 --> 00:17:07,694 do, but that's, that's the goal. 378 00:17:07,964 --> 00:17:12,254 And, and that's, that's how many times, um, how many different sites is, is it 379 00:17:12,285 --> 00:17:17,345 three per season or four or how many times they get together to play each other? 380 00:17:17,865 --> 00:17:20,694 I don't know who they're going to choose for the, you know, which 381 00:17:20,694 --> 00:17:22,224 location will be the PPL cup. 382 00:17:22,224 --> 00:17:26,714 So, um, to give you an example for the PPL all stars, we're playing at Tactica. 383 00:17:27,115 --> 00:17:29,655 We, we have a partnership with Padel Galiz. 384 00:17:30,679 --> 00:17:34,219 So, we, we sell, install, own Padel Glees courts. 385 00:17:34,219 --> 00:17:36,529 We have the exclusive rights here on the West Coast. 386 00:17:36,759 --> 00:17:39,239 We have one of their World Padel Tour temporary courts. 387 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,249 So, we're constructing it on our stadium tennis court. 388 00:17:42,699 --> 00:17:44,019 You could do that anywhere, right? 389 00:17:44,019 --> 00:17:46,219 So, we can go in Madison Square Garden and put a court down. 390 00:17:46,580 --> 00:17:48,350 You see what A1 did in New York City. 391 00:17:48,350 --> 00:17:53,120 So, I don't know what locations the PPL Inside Out will choose, but, um, 392 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,590 you know, uh, hopefully they're in, in, uh, markets with a lot of, Um, and 393 00:17:57,590 --> 00:18:00,624 we're gonna play a lot of, uh, Padel players and spectators and sports. 394 00:18:00,884 --> 00:18:01,175 Great. 395 00:18:01,354 --> 00:18:04,554 So now let's talk about the big white elephant, the All Stars games. 396 00:18:04,554 --> 00:18:06,124 And how did it come out to you guys? 397 00:18:06,314 --> 00:18:07,695 Who was the idea behind it? 398 00:18:07,695 --> 00:18:09,844 And, and how did, you know, what's gonna happen? 399 00:18:11,024 --> 00:18:14,195 So, um, Yeah, so how it came to us? 400 00:18:14,205 --> 00:18:16,435 You know, I think that there's a bid process. 401 00:18:16,955 --> 00:18:18,925 Um, so, okay, how do you bid for this? 402 00:18:19,279 --> 00:18:22,469 Um, and, and also for the Western, I think there's a process that 403 00:18:22,469 --> 00:18:23,529 we all have to bid through. 404 00:18:23,969 --> 00:18:27,299 Um, the PPL and Inside Out, they're the ones that choose it. 405 00:18:27,759 --> 00:18:31,339 Um, with us, uh, we, we run events. 406 00:18:31,379 --> 00:18:32,849 We run lots of tournaments. 407 00:18:33,009 --> 00:18:37,774 Uh, again, I'm the tournament director of, uh, uh, one of the biggest female Uh, 408 00:18:37,804 --> 00:18:40,574 women's professional tennis tournaments in the United States in the world. 409 00:18:41,054 --> 00:18:43,074 Um, so we have the experience of running events. 410 00:18:43,094 --> 00:18:45,854 We have the, we have the amenities at our facilities. 411 00:18:46,235 --> 00:18:49,185 Um, those all go in to be able to host an event like this. 412 00:18:49,574 --> 00:18:52,804 Uh, West Coast, you know, knock on wood that we don't get rain. 413 00:18:53,254 --> 00:18:54,475 We had rain yesterday. 414 00:18:55,344 --> 00:18:59,044 Uh, but West Coast is a little different than the rest of the country in November. 415 00:18:59,094 --> 00:18:59,975 Right, with weather. 416 00:19:00,455 --> 00:19:01,155 Um. 417 00:19:01,819 --> 00:19:05,699 And, uh, we do, we have a lot of players here in the market, so it 418 00:19:05,819 --> 00:19:10,699 was just a, I think, a great idea to bring it to San Diego, um, for the 419 00:19:10,759 --> 00:19:12,419 inaugural, you know, All Star game. 420 00:19:13,039 --> 00:19:15,919 Now, who do you have participating, uh, on behalf of the Stingrays? 421 00:19:17,319 --> 00:19:21,239 So, um, we, from four to six, we have an exhibition match. 422 00:19:21,339 --> 00:19:26,659 So, uh, Juan Martin Diaz from New York is going to play with Lamperti, 423 00:19:26,739 --> 00:19:28,219 so for us, which is awesome. 424 00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:34,635 And then For the all star games, uh, the process was every team got to 425 00:19:34,985 --> 00:19:38,305 vote for who they thought were the best in the West, who they thought 426 00:19:38,305 --> 00:19:40,065 they were the best on the East. 427 00:19:40,434 --> 00:19:44,394 Um, you can only vote for one player of your own, so you couldn't 428 00:19:44,394 --> 00:19:45,504 just put your whole team down. 429 00:19:45,915 --> 00:19:49,945 We got three players voted for from the Stingrays from the other ownership 430 00:19:49,945 --> 00:19:51,835 group, which was really an honor. 431 00:19:51,845 --> 00:19:53,215 So we have a Cobo Blanco. 432 00:19:53,965 --> 00:19:56,004 He will play with Guga from Las Vegas. 433 00:19:56,439 --> 00:20:01,159 Which is an amazing team, uh, Mati Almada was selected as the alternate 434 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,689 and, uh, Silvana Campos was elected from the women, um, as well. 435 00:20:06,689 --> 00:20:10,520 So, uh, we've got some stingrays representing the all stars, which is cool. 436 00:20:10,730 --> 00:20:11,470 Congratulations. 437 00:20:11,470 --> 00:20:13,649 That's fantastic. 438 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:13,859 Awesome. 439 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,439 So, and the setup is going to be similar to, um, so for our viewers 440 00:20:18,439 --> 00:20:20,810 and the listeners, uh, it's going to be similar to a tennis tournament 441 00:20:20,810 --> 00:20:24,470 where you have stands, you have food trucks, or you have, uh, places to eat. 442 00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:27,490 I mean, walk us through how the whole setup is going to be. 443 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:28,629 Yeah. 444 00:20:28,629 --> 00:20:32,029 So our stadium court where we, we build, you know, for the WTA, 445 00:20:32,030 --> 00:20:33,340 we construct a huge stadium. 446 00:20:33,629 --> 00:20:37,230 This we're making it smaller because we don't need to go big, right? 447 00:20:37,269 --> 00:20:39,679 First year, we're just trying to grow awareness. 448 00:20:39,679 --> 00:20:42,020 We, we want, you know, butts and seats. 449 00:20:42,030 --> 00:20:43,529 So we're gonna have this beautiful court. 450 00:20:44,010 --> 00:20:47,470 Um, we have a VIP section with some stands. 451 00:20:47,930 --> 00:20:52,639 Uh, VIP will have food and beverage, a bar, catering, all those kind of things. 452 00:20:52,830 --> 00:20:53,590 I like it. 453 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:54,350 I like it. 454 00:20:54,899 --> 00:20:55,470 Yeah, yeah. 455 00:20:55,470 --> 00:20:59,030 Then the, the, you know, about, I think we're at like 750 to a 456 00:20:59,030 --> 00:21:01,060 thousand seats around the court. 457 00:21:01,450 --> 00:21:06,460 Um, we have a cafe, a restaurant that the general public will be able to go and, you 458 00:21:06,460 --> 00:21:08,290 know, buy sandwiches, coffees, smoothies. 459 00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:12,715 Um, Um, Tennis Channel will, you know, we have a production company to film it. 460 00:21:12,784 --> 00:21:16,405 It'll be streamed on, on T2, uh, from Tennis Channel. 461 00:21:16,925 --> 00:21:21,905 Um, yeah, so that's going to be happening all Saturday afternoon. 462 00:21:22,195 --> 00:21:26,095 The cool thing about it is we have two major tournaments going on around it. 463 00:21:26,495 --> 00:21:27,195 Tennis tournaments. 464 00:21:27,204 --> 00:21:31,935 So we have a ITF event as well as a junior, a local junior event. 465 00:21:32,195 --> 00:21:35,984 So we're going to actually have hundreds of people that have no idea this is going 466 00:21:35,985 --> 00:21:37,814 to go on that are going to come and watch. 467 00:21:37,814 --> 00:21:40,084 So it's going Yeah. 468 00:21:40,125 --> 00:21:41,625 That's a great, great idea. 469 00:21:42,235 --> 00:21:42,435 Yeah. 470 00:21:42,435 --> 00:21:43,215 That's how you grow. 471 00:21:43,274 --> 00:21:44,235 That's how you grow the game. 472 00:21:44,235 --> 00:21:44,445 Right. 473 00:21:44,695 --> 00:21:44,905 Yeah. 474 00:21:45,004 --> 00:21:48,645 You know, happen to walk up times and be like, Oh, what is this? 475 00:21:48,904 --> 00:21:49,244 Yeah. 476 00:21:49,564 --> 00:21:54,135 So tell us what time and where viewers can watch the all star games. 477 00:21:55,625 --> 00:22:00,405 Um, so I don't have the schedule of tennis channel at the moment, but I 478 00:22:00,405 --> 00:22:05,074 do know if you go to Pro Padel League and you go into the YouTube channel, 479 00:22:05,115 --> 00:22:06,504 they will have it on there as well. 480 00:22:06,514 --> 00:22:06,705 Okay. 481 00:22:06,975 --> 00:22:08,945 So that's where viewers can go. 482 00:22:09,314 --> 00:22:14,794 Uh, again, four o'clock, gates open, players can, uh, players will, the 483 00:22:14,794 --> 00:22:19,564 exhibition players will start at four to six, five thirty, then the all stars 484 00:22:19,574 --> 00:22:24,725 start, six o'clock, that's when the matches come out, so the two men will 485 00:22:24,725 --> 00:22:28,524 play two, and then two women, and then if they split, the mixed doubles match. 486 00:22:28,525 --> 00:22:35,945 That's awesome, that's incredible, I mean, so, so, Um, are you guys planning 487 00:22:35,945 --> 00:22:39,485 to do it year after year in the same place or how's that process work? 488 00:22:39,485 --> 00:22:42,584 So every year they, they voted for some other places. 489 00:22:43,144 --> 00:22:46,534 Yeah, they're going to vote it, you know, hopefully, you know, 490 00:22:46,534 --> 00:22:48,044 for us selfishly, it'd be great. 491 00:22:48,274 --> 00:22:50,715 They think this is the best and oh, we got to come back to San 492 00:22:50,715 --> 00:22:51,734 Diego for the all star game. 493 00:22:52,014 --> 00:22:52,715 That would be great. 494 00:22:53,034 --> 00:22:55,935 But, you know, realistically, we shouldn't do that. 495 00:22:55,935 --> 00:22:57,245 Probably we need to move it around. 496 00:22:57,245 --> 00:22:58,294 We need to grow the game. 497 00:22:58,615 --> 00:22:59,945 We need to grow the markets. 498 00:22:59,955 --> 00:23:00,445 So. 499 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:05,680 It would be great to have it in San Diego this year, East Coast next year, and 500 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,760 then hopefully Texas or in the Midwest. 501 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,460 So we need to put the All Star Games in different regions of the country. 502 00:23:12,010 --> 00:23:15,979 Canada, Mexico, uh, everybody needs to host this thing. 503 00:23:15,979 --> 00:23:19,750 So, um, again, it would be, you know, selfishly awesome. 504 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,470 Hey, we, we've, we've monopolized the All Star Game. 505 00:23:22,889 --> 00:23:23,519 Not gonna happen. 506 00:23:23,550 --> 00:23:26,610 So, Ryan, uh, Tica, let's go back to Tica. 507 00:23:26,610 --> 00:23:30,300 How big is the expansion that you guys, are you guys trying to stay 508 00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:32,100 only within the state of California? 509 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:35,610 You're planning to jump into other states and all that? 510 00:23:35,970 --> 00:23:36,720 What is their vision? 511 00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:41,850 So the, the vision is 200 courts in California before we venture 512 00:23:41,850 --> 00:23:43,169 out of the, of California. 513 00:23:43,230 --> 00:23:43,590 Okay. 514 00:23:43,710 --> 00:23:44,760 And so far you are a what? 515 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:45,870 A 20 maybe? 516 00:23:46,620 --> 00:23:47,850 Uh, let's see, seven. 517 00:23:47,850 --> 00:23:48,389 Four. 518 00:23:48,389 --> 00:23:48,960 Four. 519 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:49,439 And then. 520 00:23:50,399 --> 00:23:56,879 In 24, we'll start with lifetime, so not near two, 200 . Um, but, um, you know, 521 00:23:56,879 --> 00:24:00,960 we're gonna get up to, um, close to 50. 522 00:24:01,050 --> 00:24:01,409 Yeah. 523 00:24:01,530 --> 00:24:06,270 You know, by, by the end or beginning of 2025, mid 2025. 524 00:24:06,750 --> 00:24:10,524 Um, with, with just the contracts we have now, my job as the 525 00:24:10,605 --> 00:24:12,764 CEO is to go out and, and. 526 00:24:13,544 --> 00:24:15,725 And hunt for the best partnerships. 527 00:24:15,975 --> 00:24:19,764 So, you know, we, maybe we are at 200 or we have other partnerships. 528 00:24:19,814 --> 00:24:23,475 That's my job to grow the grow tactics or grow the game. 529 00:24:23,985 --> 00:24:25,665 Um, so we'll see. 530 00:24:26,004 --> 00:24:31,334 But we are open to to other states and other ventures as long as 531 00:24:31,334 --> 00:24:32,475 it's appropriate for tactics. 532 00:24:33,215 --> 00:24:33,811 And it makes sense. 533 00:24:33,811 --> 00:24:35,725 It makes sense for our business. 534 00:24:36,295 --> 00:24:39,405 If you haven't already, make sure that you hit that subscribe button and turn on your 535 00:24:39,405 --> 00:24:42,405 notifications and remember it's free 99. 536 00:24:42,415 --> 00:24:44,735 It doesn't cost you anything to hit that subscribe button. 537 00:24:45,005 --> 00:24:46,754 Thanks for tuning into Padel Smash Academy. 538 00:24:46,755 --> 00:24:50,544 We hope you'll find our videos informative, helpful in improving your 539 00:24:50,545 --> 00:24:52,405 game and learning all things Padel. 540 00:24:52,595 --> 00:24:56,815 So until next time, keep improving your game and remember learn, play, and share.