WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:01.010 --> 00:00:05.810 Anke: Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs podcast, the show for dog lovers 00:00:06.270 --> 00:00:11.520 who see dogs not as toys or tools, but wise souls worth our respect and care. 00:00:11.520 --> 00:00:14.859 I'm Anke Herrmann, and I'm your host. 00:00:15.569 --> 00:00:20.750 I talk to wholesome humans, people who do great work for dogs and their people. 00:00:21.390 --> 00:00:23.720 So come and join us for today's conversation. 00:00:24.757 --> 00:00:26.157 Hello and welcome, Inez. 00:00:26.317 --> 00:00:28.417 I'm so excited to have you here. 00:00:29.487 --> 00:00:29.677 I, I 00:00:29.677 --> 00:00:30.847 Inez: am, I'm very excited too. 00:00:30.847 --> 00:00:31.147 Anke. 00:00:31.147 --> 00:00:31.837 Thank you for asking 00:00:31.837 --> 00:00:32.137 Anke: me. 00:00:32.797 --> 00:00:36.997 Yeah, I, I knew right from the start I wanted to have Paul some Newmans on, 00:00:37.002 --> 00:00:40.717 on, on this show, and the first person that jumped to mind for me with you, 00:00:41.197 --> 00:00:44.047 so I'm super happy to, to be here. 00:00:44.107 --> 00:00:45.427 We've kind of known each other little. 00:00:46.192 --> 00:00:50.992 On social for quite a while, and so I'm really, really excited to share 00:00:50.992 --> 00:00:54.472 you with other souls touched by dogs. 00:00:54.922 --> 00:00:58.192 So while, why don't we just start out, give people like two minute 00:00:58.192 --> 00:01:01.612 birds eye, like where are you based and how the heck did you get 00:01:01.612 --> 00:01:03.172 Inez: into all the dog work? 00:01:03.592 --> 00:01:04.192 Oh gosh. 00:01:04.192 --> 00:01:06.082 Well, okay, so my name is, is Robinson. 00:01:06.082 --> 00:01:09.502 I'm originally from the uk, lived in Spain now since 1995. 00:01:09.502 --> 00:01:11.002 I can't even work the mess out on that. 00:01:11.002 --> 00:01:12.502 So I just say 1995 now. 00:01:12.892 --> 00:01:16.012 Um, February, I came over with my two young kids, my husband at the 00:01:16.012 --> 00:01:18.772 time, and, um, lived on the coast. 00:01:18.772 --> 00:01:19.402 I now live in. 00:01:19.987 --> 00:01:21.397 And in Elle Grande. 00:01:21.667 --> 00:01:25.207 And, uh, when, um, I came out, I originally came out with my first ever 00:01:25.207 --> 00:01:27.127 dog and she passed away when she was 14. 00:01:27.667 --> 00:01:29.497 And then I was dogless for quite a while. 00:01:29.497 --> 00:01:30.037 A single mom. 00:01:30.037 --> 00:01:31.747 It was just, it wasn't the right circumstances. 00:01:31.752 --> 00:01:34.267 And when Pat and I got together, uh, this is all his fault. 00:01:34.267 --> 00:01:37.297 You see, when we got together, he said, I'd like to get a dog. 00:01:37.657 --> 00:01:40.447 Um, my ex-wife really wasn't very keen, but I'd like to get a dog. 00:01:40.447 --> 00:01:44.077 So we started off with a, uh, golden retriever who needed a new home. 00:01:44.077 --> 00:01:46.897 He was 11 months old and Charlie loved him to pieces. 00:01:47.437 --> 00:01:48.337 And he was great. 00:01:48.337 --> 00:01:51.997 And then, uh, when he was about six, we were, we felt ready for a second dog. 00:01:52.327 --> 00:01:55.567 Second dog we got from a local rescue, aaa. 00:01:55.627 --> 00:01:57.097 And she was also a golden retriever. 00:01:57.102 --> 00:02:00.487 She'd been used as a puppy farm bitch, um, really badly, 00:02:00.487 --> 00:02:02.497 extremely underweight, very poor. 00:02:02.737 --> 00:02:06.667 And two vets said, you'd be lucky to be lucky for her to live another six months. 00:02:06.667 --> 00:02:09.667 She was that broken and her organs were going. 00:02:09.667 --> 00:02:10.777 Everything was was bad. 00:02:11.422 --> 00:02:15.142 So I started researching a little bit about dog nutrition and stuff like that. 00:02:15.472 --> 00:02:18.562 Um, and basically we brought her back to life and she lived for 00:02:18.562 --> 00:02:19.792 another seven and a half years. 00:02:20.422 --> 00:02:25.972 So, and, but through her, whilst I understood people abandoned 00:02:25.972 --> 00:02:29.002 their dogs, they were starving dogs, I didn't really know, didn't 00:02:29.032 --> 00:02:30.352 really know what was going on. 00:02:30.622 --> 00:02:33.262 But through her, I saw what was going on. 00:02:33.262 --> 00:02:35.937 So from her, There was another dog I got. 00:02:35.937 --> 00:02:38.457 I ended up getting onto some of the Facebook groups and things, 00:02:38.462 --> 00:02:40.857 and there was another dog that 48 hours from being put to sleep. 00:02:41.397 --> 00:02:42.237 Beautiful dog. 00:02:42.237 --> 00:02:43.557 She looked like a golden retriever. 00:02:43.707 --> 00:02:46.947 In fact, it says golden retriever in her passport because my, I showed my husband 00:02:46.952 --> 00:02:48.537 and he said, we can't let that happen. 00:02:48.542 --> 00:02:50.547 We went straight the next day down to pound. 00:02:50.877 --> 00:02:51.507 We took her out. 00:02:51.507 --> 00:02:52.827 We, she's still with us now. 00:02:53.067 --> 00:02:56.007 She's somewhere between 14 and 16 years old, because they said she 00:02:56.007 --> 00:02:57.717 was between four and six back then. 00:02:58.517 --> 00:03:00.437 And we're not a hundred percent sure of her, of her age. 00:03:00.887 --> 00:03:03.227 And, uh, it sort of went from there. 00:03:03.227 --> 00:03:06.977 And then we started seeing more dogs and more, more dogs needing help. 00:03:06.977 --> 00:03:11.077 And some of them were, came in as fosters and stayed. 00:03:11.897 --> 00:03:13.157 We ended up with eight dogs. 00:03:13.277 --> 00:03:15.107 We were, uh, we had seven dogs. 00:03:15.317 --> 00:03:19.007 We were living on the coast in a townhouse with a small 35 square meter garden. 00:03:19.512 --> 00:03:21.312 Both working from home, both taking them out. 00:03:21.642 --> 00:03:24.912 And one of my dogs, uh, was one of the neighbors got arrested. 00:03:25.392 --> 00:03:27.402 Uh, all the sorts of stuff that goes on in in Marvea. 00:03:27.852 --> 00:03:31.092 And um, the police said, do you want to take this dog? 00:03:31.097 --> 00:03:33.792 And they had a five month old Belgian Shepherd mal. 00:03:34.692 --> 00:03:37.092 And I'd become aware of the breed and thought. 00:03:38.047 --> 00:03:39.067 Too much dog for me. 00:03:39.607 --> 00:03:40.717 I don't really wanna get involved. 00:03:40.897 --> 00:03:43.597 Anyway, took him on and I fell in love with that particular breed. 00:03:43.597 --> 00:03:45.427 A lot of training with him, a lot of brain work. 00:03:45.487 --> 00:03:47.227 'cause we didn't have the space for them to run. 00:03:47.527 --> 00:03:51.277 They went out once a day for walks, uh, for the actual physical exercise 00:03:51.282 --> 00:03:52.507 they played inside the house. 00:03:52.897 --> 00:03:55.207 And then we moved up to Arin El Grande. 00:03:55.417 --> 00:03:57.487 So that's how I got involved with dogs. 00:03:57.487 --> 00:04:00.007 And then I got involved with dog rescues and now I have my own 00:04:00.007 --> 00:04:03.947 little rescue and I specialize more in the Belgian Shepherd Malinois. 00:04:03.947 --> 00:04:05.617 And we have seven dogs at home. 00:04:05.797 --> 00:04:07.297 And a cat who thinks she's a dog. 00:04:08.182 --> 00:04:09.112 Anke: As a husband somewhere. 00:04:09.112 --> 00:04:09.712 I like that. 00:04:09.732 --> 00:04:11.712 That's an episode for another day. 00:04:11.932 --> 00:04:15.412 Like we're gonna pop something in like that was a real sort like 00:04:15.892 --> 00:04:18.412 all of that is Liket has a book. 00:04:18.922 --> 00:04:19.162 T has a 00:04:19.162 --> 00:04:19.462 Inez: book. 00:04:19.462 --> 00:04:21.862 Tig might be a second book coming out soon. 00:04:22.732 --> 00:04:24.042 Anke: That's, so, that's amazing. 00:04:24.672 --> 00:04:25.162 Amazing. 00:04:25.282 --> 00:04:25.432 She's 00:04:25.432 --> 00:04:26.722 Inez: working, she's working on another book. 00:04:26.722 --> 00:04:27.952 That's why she's been so quiet lately. 00:04:27.952 --> 00:04:30.082 She's, uh, she's working on another, not another book. 00:04:30.182 --> 00:04:30.922 That's incredible. 00:04:30.942 --> 00:04:35.422 Um, so, so through my dogs, um, I, with Max, it was actually 00:04:35.422 --> 00:04:36.682 what happened with Max one day. 00:04:36.687 --> 00:04:38.212 He had a collar on normal collar. 00:04:38.552 --> 00:04:41.402 Went to go outta the house and some kids were walking past 00:04:41.492 --> 00:04:42.842 on the private urbanization. 00:04:42.842 --> 00:04:43.892 Anyway, I stopped. 00:04:44.312 --> 00:04:46.772 He snapped around and came outta the collar. 00:04:47.012 --> 00:04:49.202 Take him outta the collar because his neck was thicker than his head. 00:04:49.532 --> 00:04:53.702 This is how naive I was about dogs when I was like a, I would call myself a normal 00:04:53.762 --> 00:04:58.712 dog person back then, and so I'm standing there holding this lead and a collar goes. 00:04:59.152 --> 00:04:59.722 Like this. 00:04:59.872 --> 00:05:01.042 He's going, woo hoo. 00:05:01.042 --> 00:05:02.452 I'm going Go go for a run. 00:05:02.572 --> 00:05:03.742 And he's jumped up at these kids. 00:05:03.742 --> 00:05:04.702 They've fallen over. 00:05:04.882 --> 00:05:06.172 Parents are going crazy. 00:05:06.262 --> 00:05:07.612 Max has rent them run off. 00:05:07.792 --> 00:05:08.752 I haven't shut the door. 00:05:08.752 --> 00:05:10.282 The other dogs are coming out to say hello. 00:05:10.282 --> 00:05:13.012 It was, it was, honestly, it was pandemonium, chaos, panic. 00:05:13.462 --> 00:05:16.222 It felt like a lifetime, but it was about 30 seconds. 00:05:16.832 --> 00:05:18.062 Um, child. 00:05:18.092 --> 00:05:20.582 The child was okay a little bit, a couple of scratches and things, but nothing, 00:05:20.587 --> 00:05:25.142 but it made me realize I had to be very careful and Max was also starting 00:05:25.142 --> 00:05:27.092 to really pull, uh, at 11 months old. 00:05:27.092 --> 00:05:30.032 Now, my fault, I hadn't taught him properly to loosely, you, 00:05:30.032 --> 00:05:32.432 you, you sort of expect your dog to walk properly beside you. 00:05:33.212 --> 00:05:37.412 So I looked around for harnesses and I found a lady who made a very specialized 00:05:37.412 --> 00:05:42.992 harness that she had developed a no pull, no escape harness, bought one for him. 00:05:43.397 --> 00:05:45.887 Then bought one for all the other dogs because it was amazing how it 00:05:45.887 --> 00:05:49.487 took some pressure away from the neck that he stopped pulling completely. 00:05:49.487 --> 00:05:52.277 He was more comfortable, he was more listening to me, et cetera. 00:05:53.087 --> 00:05:57.257 So fast forward a few years, we've moved up to Arin and the lady passed away. 00:05:57.257 --> 00:05:58.307 I got on with her very well. 00:05:58.307 --> 00:06:00.947 I was, I was passing business to her because being in rescue, 00:06:00.947 --> 00:06:02.507 people would say, my dog's pulling. 00:06:02.507 --> 00:06:04.847 Can you help buy this, buy this, buy this. 00:06:04.847 --> 00:06:05.327 It's brilliant. 00:06:05.327 --> 00:06:06.137 It's brilliant, it's brilliant. 00:06:06.137 --> 00:06:07.517 They last forever, et cetera, et cetera. 00:06:08.087 --> 00:06:08.927 And she passed away. 00:06:09.607 --> 00:06:13.267 Just old age and I was waiting that somebody was gonna take, take the 00:06:13.267 --> 00:06:17.617 reins up because over time as I'd taken rescues on, I was giving a, a 00:06:17.617 --> 00:06:22.357 harness away with one of my rescues for safety and security and everything. 00:06:22.747 --> 00:06:24.217 So I got down to the one last harness. 00:06:24.217 --> 00:06:26.677 I wasn't letting go of that, and it broke. 00:06:27.067 --> 00:06:28.947 So stitching came undone and I'm, I'm. 00:06:30.442 --> 00:06:33.742 And a year after she passed away, still nobody had taken up the reins. 00:06:33.742 --> 00:06:36.292 Nobody had, nobody was making anything, anything the same. 00:06:36.292 --> 00:06:37.882 I tried other, other makes and things. 00:06:38.002 --> 00:06:38.782 Nothing is good. 00:06:39.322 --> 00:06:43.372 So in the end I thought, right, well, I'm gonna have to do it myself. 00:06:43.432 --> 00:06:46.372 So I bought myself a little secondhand sew machine of, uh, 00:06:46.402 --> 00:06:48.082 marketplace, Facebook marketplace. 00:06:48.347 --> 00:06:50.747 Found where I could get the webbing and the bits and pieces 00:06:50.747 --> 00:06:51.707 because I still had the one. 00:06:51.707 --> 00:06:53.837 So I was able to get all the bits and pieces and the hardware. 00:06:54.107 --> 00:06:55.307 Not a clue what I was doing. 00:06:55.817 --> 00:06:58.877 Um, trying to get this sewing machine to work that nearly ended 00:06:58.877 --> 00:07:00.137 up out of the window a few times. 00:07:00.142 --> 00:07:01.907 I can tell you I was in tears of frustration. 00:07:01.907 --> 00:07:03.227 I had to walk away from it sometimes. 00:07:03.767 --> 00:07:07.667 Kill this machine, sit down in there, YouTube. 00:07:07.937 --> 00:07:08.687 What do I do here? 00:07:08.747 --> 00:07:08.987 Right? 00:07:08.987 --> 00:07:09.257 Okay. 00:07:09.257 --> 00:07:09.857 Get it to work. 00:07:09.857 --> 00:07:12.857 Get it to work, get it to work, and made my first harness. 00:07:13.552 --> 00:07:15.652 And then I made another one and I gave it away. 00:07:15.652 --> 00:07:18.232 You know, it sort of started to build up a little bit of a reputation. 00:07:18.532 --> 00:07:20.602 And now I have, uh, two sew machines. 00:07:20.602 --> 00:07:22.762 They're right next to me here actually on, on the dining table. 00:07:22.767 --> 00:07:24.352 This says, I've work from, my work from home. 00:07:24.412 --> 00:07:26.632 If you saw this table, it looks so clean on the screen. 00:07:28.732 --> 00:07:30.292 Anke: That's like studios. 00:07:30.712 --> 00:07:32.272 I know, I know, I know. 00:07:32.272 --> 00:07:32.542 I've got a 00:07:32.542 --> 00:07:36.202 Inez: whole rack of webbings and different colors and strengths and 00:07:36.202 --> 00:07:37.402 thicknesses and all the rest of it. 00:07:37.762 --> 00:07:40.252 Um, and I make them, and, and it's developed from there. 00:07:40.252 --> 00:07:43.487 People now ask me to make, uh, There are special clips that go 00:07:43.487 --> 00:07:46.097 around the backseat of a, of a car. 00:07:46.577 --> 00:07:49.547 So they then clip onto a harness for safety in the car. 00:07:49.817 --> 00:07:51.317 Somebody asked me to make three of those. 00:07:51.317 --> 00:07:52.037 I made three of those. 00:07:52.042 --> 00:07:56.027 I've got some orders from it, from posting that I make personalized colors, 00:07:56.387 --> 00:07:58.307 um, and all sorts of different things. 00:07:58.307 --> 00:07:59.567 I can do different designs and things. 00:07:59.567 --> 00:08:00.887 I do the stuff. 00:08:00.887 --> 00:08:01.067 And we're 00:08:01.067 --> 00:08:03.677 Anke: gonna obviously have the link to all of this below here. 00:08:03.677 --> 00:08:04.159 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:08:04.164 --> 00:08:09.437 And I'm really curious because I got like, I've never liked like collars 00:08:09.527 --> 00:08:13.402 for my dogs, you know, I always thought like, I wanna, you know, if 00:08:13.402 --> 00:08:17.242 something happens, you know, and like, I don't wanna pull 'em by the throat. 00:08:17.242 --> 00:08:20.272 So I always thought, and I got a lot of slack like in, in Grenada 00:08:20.272 --> 00:08:24.082 and oh, you know, if you have a harness, the dog will pull more. 00:08:24.082 --> 00:08:26.302 And I'm like, that's not my experience, you know? 00:08:26.307 --> 00:08:30.112 So what, what, what's special about, 'cause yours have like a 00:08:30.322 --> 00:08:31.522 really interesting construction. 00:08:31.522 --> 00:08:33.802 There's this kind of thing around the waist and Yeah. 00:08:33.802 --> 00:08:37.792 So they're not just, um, so what, what's the piece that 00:08:37.792 --> 00:08:40.582 kind of stops them from pulling. 00:08:41.632 --> 00:08:43.702 Or what's the, like, which piece of, of the design? 00:08:43.702 --> 00:08:43.822 Like 00:08:43.972 --> 00:08:46.282 Inez: how does it work exactly? 00:08:46.282 --> 00:08:49.702 So the harness, uh, if you think of a standard harness that goes sort of 00:08:49.702 --> 00:08:53.572 onto the shoulders and down through the chest, okay, it's called a Y front. 00:08:53.902 --> 00:08:58.282 Now, the, if, if you have a clip on the back, Yes, a dog can pull because 00:08:58.282 --> 00:09:00.112 it's like a, they, they're like horses. 00:09:00.112 --> 00:09:03.352 They, they don't pull, they push into the collar, so they will hunch down. 00:09:03.352 --> 00:09:04.642 This is what Max did with his collar. 00:09:04.642 --> 00:09:07.192 He pushed into, and he could drag me along with my trainers, 00:09:07.192 --> 00:09:08.302 and I'm skiing behind him. 00:09:08.902 --> 00:09:10.762 Um, and he was, he wasn't even a year old. 00:09:10.767 --> 00:09:12.232 I thought, well, that's my responsibility. 00:09:12.232 --> 00:09:14.752 If he goes, wants to go to somebody, I can't stop him. 00:09:15.412 --> 00:09:18.172 So if this is the head of my hand, is the head of the dog, Uhhuh, 00:09:18.742 --> 00:09:21.622 it comes through like this and it come, then it comes underneath 00:09:21.622 --> 00:09:23.002 the, the chest and around the back. 00:09:23.322 --> 00:09:24.552 And then there's a waist part. 00:09:24.702 --> 00:09:25.212 Okay. 00:09:25.212 --> 00:09:26.172 I can always show a picture. 00:09:26.172 --> 00:09:29.772 It's a bit difficult, but the, the magic bit is, is this bit here and 00:09:29.772 --> 00:09:31.572 it's, it's, it's called a Martin Gale. 00:09:32.352 --> 00:09:34.872 I dunno why they're called Martin Gale's, maybe some guy called Martin Gale 00:09:34.877 --> 00:09:37.782 invented it in the first place, but it's just a, is there's a piece of material. 00:09:37.787 --> 00:09:42.732 So it connects the two shoulder straps to the T piece that goes under the chest. 00:09:43.332 --> 00:09:50.842 So basically what happens is when the dog pulls this piece, Keeps the force coming 00:09:50.842 --> 00:09:52.762 round so the person is behind the dog. 00:09:53.002 --> 00:09:54.922 The dog will usually lunge forward. 00:09:55.552 --> 00:10:00.262 This piece pulls the shoulder and the bit underneath sort of together. 00:10:00.322 --> 00:10:01.732 Not in a hard way, not in a horrible way. 00:10:01.732 --> 00:10:02.572 Doesn't rub or anything. 00:10:02.577 --> 00:10:05.092 Doesn't move, doesn't cause any bald fur or anything. 00:10:05.482 --> 00:10:07.402 But what it does is it redirects the force. 00:10:07.837 --> 00:10:10.297 So like a ship, you know where the ship goes forward, you can pull 00:10:10.297 --> 00:10:11.467 it round with a piece of rope. 00:10:11.767 --> 00:10:14.257 Oh, tons and tons of ship you can pull with a rope. 00:10:14.437 --> 00:10:15.277 Same effect. 00:10:15.487 --> 00:10:20.137 So the dog just thought the force just is redirected, drown Pickle, who is 00:10:20.142 --> 00:10:25.207 half mastif, if I put a collar on her or anything else off, she trundles 00:10:25.447 --> 00:10:27.397 and I'm behind her, no question. 00:10:27.487 --> 00:10:28.147 Put this on her. 00:10:28.147 --> 00:10:31.057 It is like walking a feather and I can hold her with two fingers. 00:10:31.837 --> 00:10:31.987 So 00:10:31.987 --> 00:10:34.597 Anke: then you've got like a least club clip in there. 00:10:35.002 --> 00:10:35.422 So the, yeah, 00:10:35.552 --> 00:10:37.882 Inez: it's just, it's just a, it's just a D-ring at the front so you can 00:10:38.122 --> 00:10:40.372 attach the leash to that, and that's it. 00:10:40.372 --> 00:10:42.892 So you have the leash, it's at the front on the chest, and it just, 00:10:43.897 --> 00:10:46.147 Whichever side you are standing, it redirects the dog ground. 00:10:46.837 --> 00:10:47.107 That's 00:10:47.107 --> 00:10:47.677 Anke: so cool. 00:10:48.417 --> 00:10:50.287 Inez: Really, I, it's a really simple thing. 00:10:50.287 --> 00:10:52.177 It's a bit silly, but it's really simple. 00:10:52.447 --> 00:10:54.757 Um, and I have the waistband for two reasons. 00:10:54.997 --> 00:10:58.417 What I found with normal harnesses, because they're just around the 00:10:58.417 --> 00:10:59.737 chest and the, and the neck. 00:11:00.217 --> 00:11:02.617 Even if they are front clipping, but they're solid, they, they 00:11:02.617 --> 00:11:06.697 don't have this moving, moving part is it can ride forwards. 00:11:07.152 --> 00:11:09.642 So if the dog pulls backwards, it can ride forwards. 00:11:09.642 --> 00:11:12.882 And dog people don't realize they can put their legs like this and then they're out. 00:11:12.882 --> 00:11:13.572 I've had that happen. 00:11:13.752 --> 00:11:14.562 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:11:15.162 --> 00:11:15.882 A lot people have. 00:11:16.032 --> 00:11:18.552 So the waistband a stops it riding forwards. 00:11:18.552 --> 00:11:20.232 It keeps that balance Yes. 00:11:20.237 --> 00:11:22.122 Of, of the harness of the dog isn't uncomfortable. 00:11:22.127 --> 00:11:25.402 It doesn't freak out that suddenly this thing's being pulled over its head. 00:11:26.157 --> 00:11:27.897 And the waistband stops it from getting out. 00:11:27.897 --> 00:11:29.697 So you have that added security. 00:11:30.207 --> 00:11:33.387 Um, and some, some dogs, I mean, I made a, a whole load for a 00:11:33.387 --> 00:11:35.247 rescue they had with gal GOs. 00:11:35.247 --> 00:11:36.627 They didn't want the foot no pull bit. 00:11:36.627 --> 00:11:38.667 They wanted a big clip on the back instead. 00:11:39.057 --> 00:11:41.247 Um, but they wanted the safety, as they call it, a safety harness. 00:11:41.247 --> 00:11:42.567 This is a three point harness. 00:11:42.627 --> 00:11:42.867 Yes. 00:11:42.987 --> 00:11:44.157 So I make those as well, 00:11:44.367 --> 00:11:46.647 Anke: especially gals, you know, with a big chest. 00:11:46.647 --> 00:11:48.837 Like it's, and they'd be so easy to come out of 00:11:48.837 --> 00:11:49.077 Inez: that. 00:11:49.137 --> 00:11:49.677 Yeah, yeah. 00:11:49.677 --> 00:11:52.017 Because standard harnesses are made with standard things, 00:11:52.017 --> 00:11:53.727 so the waist is, is too big. 00:11:54.022 --> 00:11:57.052 For a gal go, and because I make them to measure, I take four measurements. 00:11:57.292 --> 00:12:00.652 So I, I give people a diagram, they give me the four measurements, and from 00:12:00.652 --> 00:12:03.442 that, and there's loads of adjustments, there's seven points of adjustments. 00:12:03.442 --> 00:12:06.472 So you get that perfect fitting for that dog. 00:12:06.862 --> 00:12:07.102 I 00:12:07.102 --> 00:12:07.492 Anke: love it. 00:12:07.582 --> 00:12:08.542 I, I totally love it. 00:12:08.547 --> 00:12:11.782 I, I already know some people on this list gonna love this. 00:12:13.817 --> 00:12:15.247 Inez: And I ship, I ship worldwide. 00:12:15.247 --> 00:12:16.147 Actually, I have customers. 00:12:16.357 --> 00:12:18.967 I've got one that's going to the States, um, this week. 00:12:19.327 --> 00:12:19.687 Oh, that 00:12:19.687 --> 00:12:20.407 Anke: is fabulous. 00:12:20.737 --> 00:12:21.187 Yeah. 00:12:21.247 --> 00:12:24.577 And, and so definitely we're gonna pop the link there and Yeah. 00:12:24.657 --> 00:12:27.847 And, and I think, I love the, I mean, obviously, uh, you know, I 00:12:27.847 --> 00:12:29.527 used to make, made to measure stuff. 00:12:29.557 --> 00:12:29.677 Yeah. 00:12:29.677 --> 00:12:32.527 Like dance costumes, but it's like the made to measure makes. 00:12:32.912 --> 00:12:33.632 The difference. 00:12:34.052 --> 00:12:36.992 Inez: It makes a huge difference because I'm, I'm unlike anybody else, you know, 00:12:36.992 --> 00:12:40.802 I bought loads of stuff and you get a collar and it doesn't, it's, it's okay. 00:12:41.132 --> 00:12:42.572 It doesn't quite fit right. 00:12:42.572 --> 00:12:45.182 Or a, you know, a harness and you sort of, you can see it's 00:12:45.182 --> 00:12:46.292 not comfortable for the dog. 00:12:46.292 --> 00:12:47.072 It's like us, isn't it? 00:12:47.312 --> 00:12:50.582 You know, like a bra you can not Right. 00:12:50.587 --> 00:12:53.042 Fitting bra, it just ruins your whole day, doesn't it? 00:12:53.042 --> 00:12:53.972 I mean, there's no question 00:12:53.972 --> 00:12:54.382 Anke: about So true. 00:12:57.707 --> 00:12:59.237 The bra for the dog. 00:13:01.637 --> 00:13:02.627 Have your heart bra. 00:13:02.837 --> 00:13:03.287 That is funny. 00:13:07.817 --> 00:13:08.417 I love it. 00:13:08.477 --> 00:13:08.987 I love it. 00:13:09.047 --> 00:13:10.307 Well, thank you so much. 00:13:10.637 --> 00:13:13.787 Uh, I will have you back because we have a whole bunch of other topics 00:13:13.792 --> 00:13:17.237 to talk about, but um, yeah, I think. 00:13:18.472 --> 00:13:20.692 I'll, and we'll put apic, send me a picture. 00:13:20.692 --> 00:13:23.812 'cause I've saw, I've seen pictures where you have like the, you know, like 00:13:23.812 --> 00:13:29.362 a, a black, shiny kind of dog where you, you know, wears the Suki as Suki. 00:13:29.662 --> 00:13:30.022 You know 00:13:30.022 --> 00:13:31.222 Inez: where you can, that's eight dogs. 00:13:31.222 --> 00:13:31.582 Really? 00:13:31.582 --> 00:13:32.482 We have, we got eight dogs. 00:13:32.482 --> 00:13:33.142 She's perfect. 00:13:33.142 --> 00:13:33.442 She is. 00:13:33.652 --> 00:13:35.512 She's sitting behind me Nice and quiet. 00:13:35.512 --> 00:13:36.022 Doesn't move, 00:13:36.112 --> 00:13:39.532 Anke: you know, just like send me a picture as well so we can show, because 00:13:39.532 --> 00:13:40.972 like this is gonna be podcast as. 00:13:41.637 --> 00:13:44.187 You know, people might, but I wanna, I want people to see what it 00:13:44.187 --> 00:13:45.627 actually looks like, it looks like. 00:13:45.707 --> 00:13:45.997 Sure. 00:13:46.197 --> 00:13:49.497 And, um, and the link where, where they can get it and where 00:13:49.497 --> 00:13:50.368 can get in touch with you. 00:13:50.373 --> 00:13:50.757 Fantastic. 00:13:50.757 --> 00:13:51.157 Thank you. 00:13:51.257 --> 00:13:51.757 Inez: And um, 00:13:52.047 --> 00:13:57.377 Anke: you know, make sure we have lots of dogs in perfectly fitted bras 00:13:59.037 --> 00:13:59.787 Inez: Oh, fantastic. 00:13:59.787 --> 00:14:00.147 Thank you. 00:14:00.907 --> 00:14:01.457 Anke: Thank you. 00:14:01.887 --> 00:14:02.337 Take care. 00:14:02.957 --> 00:14:03.417 Inez: You too. 00:14:04.781 --> 00:14:06.131 Thanks so much for listening. 00:14:06.531 --> 00:14:10.621 If you enjoyed the episode, don't forget to subscribe and leave a review 00:14:10.701 --> 00:14:12.771 so other dog lovers can find the show. 00:14:13.511 --> 00:14:16.521 If you haven't already, head over to SoulTouchedByDogs. 00:14:17.441 --> 00:14:23.011 com and sign up for weekly doggy cuteness 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