Indexed Podcast

In today’s episode, we discuss Vitalik's recent comments on zero-knowledge technology and the scalability trilemma. The three of us unpack what’s actually changed since 2017, how advances like data availability sampling and zkEVMs reshape Ethereum’s execution and verification model, and whether these developments meaningfully alter the decentralization–security–scalability trade-offs.

We discuss:
  • Ethereum’s original scalability trilemma
  • Why the trilemma existed in 2017
  • Ethereum vs Solana trade-offs
  • Decentralization vs throughput
  • What data availability sampling really does
  • BLOBs, L2s, and scaling Ethereum
  • zkEVMs and execution offloading
  • Prover markets and new supply chains
  • Does ZK “solve” the trilemma?
  • Trust, security, and financial infrastructure
  • Celestia, EigenDA, and DA competition
  • Where blockspace actually matters
  • Crypto data jobs and hiring trends
And much more—enjoy!

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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(02:47) Trilemma explained
(05:23) Ethereum vs Solana
(07:28) ZK tech overview
(09:29) Data availability
(10:48) zkEVM execution
(12:54) Solving trilemma?
(15:03) Trust and security
(20:09) Stablecoins on Ethereum
(25:03) Celestia DA hype
(31:40) Crypto data jobs
(35:02) Job market outlook
(38:09) Outro
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Creators and Guests

Host
Boxer
Wizard relations @DuneAnalytics. The data must flow.
Host
danning.eth⚡️🤖
financial nihilist. mev-thirsty. data @ Flashbots. host @indexed_pod. council @thelatestindefi. previously data @0xProject @ConsenSys.
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hildobby
data @dragonfly_xyz / host @indexed_pod

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