Cloudy With a Chance of Trust

End users are not and never will be perfect components of your cybersecurity infrastructure. Why not remove the human element altogether and design security directly into the infrastructure to begin with? Author, speaker, and industry-recognized expert Ira Winkler, CISSP, has been advocating this position for decades. In this episode, Lisa and Pam speak to Ira about the evolution of “human security engineering” and how a zero trust architecture can deliver the right operating environment to proactively mitigate risks.

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What is Cloudy With a Chance of Trust?

A podcast for digital transformation leaders. Network security experts Pam Kubiatowski and Lisa Lorenzin discuss the latest cyber-attack issues, enterprise security strategies, and current security events so that you can successfully accelerate network and security transformation.

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