Recovery Rocks

If you've ever heard someone in recovery whisper ominously about "the Fourth Step," this episode is for you.

Anna and Lisa talk about why taking a fearless moral inventory has such a terrifying reputation—and why it turned out to be one of the most freeing experiences of their recovery. They get into resentments, expectations, victimhood, abandonment, impossible bosses, impossible exes and the uncomfortable realization that maybe...just maybe...they weren't always right.

Plus: Anna explains why she once walked into a diner carrying a giant poster board covered in resentments, and the two get into a new petty resentment.

What is Recovery Rocks?

Ever wonder what it's like to go on your first sober date? Or survive a wedding without liquid courage? How about dancing stone-cold sober or dealing with your first breakup without wine?

If so, you're in luck because you can join bestselling authors and longtime sober friends Lisa Smith and Anna David as they talk to guests—and each other—about addiction and recovery, including all the “firsts” that come with sober living. From awkward to amazing, cringe-worthy to surprisingly poignant, they’re discussing what it’s like to experience life without substances.

Lisa is the author of the award-winning memoir Girl Walks Out of a Bar, while Anna wrote Party Girl, a comic novel about addiction and recovery in the vein of Rachel's Holiday and Postcards From the Edge. Together, they explore the real-life moments behind the kinds of stories that shape how people understand recovery.

Whether you're newly sober, sober-curious or just want to hear some honest stories about recovery, Recovery Rocks is here for all of it.

Because as it turns out, when you can remember everything that happened, life gets a lot more interesting.

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