Queues move, bags get scanned, and passengers eventually make it through. But beneath that surface is a fragile operational layer held together by fragmented systems, manual workarounds, and frontline teams stitching together processes in real time.
Anne Marie Pellerin has seen both sides of that system—designing queue segmentation at TSA that improved throughput, and later discovering that when security systems fail, the response is often disconnected, slow, and opaque.
This conversation goes beyond passenger experience into something more fundamental: how airports actually recover when critical systems break—and why solving that requires rethinking how data, workflows, and people are connected on the ground.
What You’ll Learn
- Segmenting passengers reduces stress and improves throughput: Separating travelers by experience level can increase efficiency by lowering stress-induced errors at checkpoints
- Airport operations still rely on fragmented workflows: Many frontline teams use disconnected systems, emails, and even pen-and-paper to manage critical equipment
- Downtime creates cascading operational risk: A single equipment failure can lead to long queues, baggage disruptions, or even flight delays
- The real problem is coordination, not detection: Technology for identifying threats has advanced rapidly, but operational orchestration has lagged behind
- Orchestration layers unlock system-wide visibility: Connecting frontline staff, maintenance teams, and vendors creates shared context and faster resolution
- Frontline workers are the missing link in system design: Most tools are not built for the people actually operating equipment day-to-day
- AI depends on unified data, not just models: Without a consolidated dataset across systems, predictive analytics and automation remain limited
- Automated escalation can replace manual processes: AI-driven workflows can route issues directly to the right technician with full context, even via voice calls
- Government and regulated sales cycles require long-term thinking: Success in aviation tech depends on patience, trust, and multi-year relationships
- Security operations extend beyond airports: The same operational challenges exist in borders, cruise terminals, data centers, and critical infrastructure
Time-Stamped Highlights
- (00:10) Airport Queues as a Design Problem
- (02:09) TSA’s Checkpoint of the Future Program
- (03:13) Passenger Segmentation and the Origins of PreCheck
- (05:01) U.S. vs. European Airport Security Models
- (07:03) The Hidden Complexity of Security Equipment Management
- (09:12) How Equipment Failures Disrupt Airport Operations
- (10:10) Why Airport Systems Remain Fragmented
- (11:04) Building an Orchestration Layer for Security Operations
- (13:01) Toward a Unified Operational Control System
- (14:17) From Government to Startup: Shifting Perspectives
- (18:41) Navigating Long Sales Cycles in Aviation
- (22:26) Expanding Beyond Airports Into Other Industries
- (24:04) What Actually Happens When Equipment Fails
- (26:40) AI in Security Operations and Failure Detection
- (29:26) Automated Calls and Real-Time Escalation With AI
Guest
AnneMarie Pellerin — CEO & Co-Founder, Curie Technologies; Managing Partner & Founder, LAM LHA
Anne Marie Pellerin is a former TSA leader who served as Director of Checkpoint of the Future and spent six years as the agency’s representative in Europe. She worked on programs that informed modern checkpoint design and passenger flow, including concepts that influenced TSA PreCheck. She is now co-founder of Curie Technologies, a platform focused on improving operational coordination and uptime for security equipment.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-marie-pellerin-1007038/
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The Travel Tech Podcast, hosted by Alex Brooker, features long form conversations with leaders across travel and technology. The show explores how software, data, operations, and distribution come together in real businesses, with an emphasis on tradeoffs, incentives, and lessons that transfer beyond any single company or role. Alex Brooker is an industry veteran with experience in aviation, start up to exit, and AI transformation.