Now, come on. You're the one who's upset. What's it about? I'm worried
sick over you.
I mean, something's happening. I don't know.
It's changing. Don't you realize it?
Well, I changed my hairstyle.
Everything is ready, my darling. Do not be
afraid. Soon we'll be together again.
This sandwich tastes as dry as hell. Hello,
and welcome to hello. This is the Doomed Show. I am Richard.
Folks, I am beyond excited
to be beyond talking to Mark.
Hello, Mark. You're beyond welcome. Thank you.
I'm beyond glad to be here. Beyond elated,
beyond evil. We're beyond Beyonce
at this point, folks.
This is Beyond Evil from 1980.
Mark and I, we were trying to figure out who picked this, and I think
this is a joint effort because, spoiler alert,
this is a great film. There's a reason
it won three Oscars. I mean. Whoa, that was not in the trivia.
Okay. I think if I put it out there, it's going to make it a
reality. They'll get the retroactive Oscars.
Exactly. They're beyond overdue, let me tell you. Oh,
yes. This is going to go on for a while.
Yes. Let's. Let's just pun ourselves to death here.
So director Herb Freed brought us this beauty.
He was the mastermind behind.
Was It Graduation Day? And Haunts,
which are both fine films. Writers Paul
Ross and good old Herb Fried. And David Bowne.
David Bown, I believe, was also producer on this.
Maybe. Did he boun. Was he one of the Bowners?
I can't believe I said that. Did you know that Mr. Freed was
a ex rabbi? What?
I was watching the extras on this and, yeah, he was a former rabbi.
Wow. Yeah. You can go on. That's all I wanted to
say. Go ahead. That's a. I'm saying that that's a career change. I'll let
you sit with that for a little bit. Man. Processing,
Processing. I think David Bowne is a producer. He also helped
bring the world the mighty Graduation Day.
I have found a trailer for this bad boy. I'm gonna
drop this right here. Enjoy. The trailer for the beyond,
starring Katrina McCall and David Warbeck.
Just kidding. It's beyond evil. All right.
Me, you're like, wait, what did I take notes? Oh, no.
Beyond Evil is a terrifying journey beyond life,
beyond death, beyond evil.
You need that house like a hole. In the head, sort of goodwill.
For more than two centuries, the evil within Casa Fortuna
lay dormant. What he means is
the place is supposed to be haunted. It's all a Legend. Everyone on the
island knows Alma Ma lives.
You changing.
Don't you realize what strange force possessed
the husband? John Saxon. I can't
fight anymore. The wife, Linda Day.
George. I want my wife back. I don't care what it takes.
The lover, Michael Dante. Leave that place
now before it's too late.
As long as your wife remains within her reach, she's in danger
of contamination. Possession.
Can'T be.
Beyond evil. Will scare the
hell out of you. I was gonna read
the VHS tape. The. The VHS plot synopsis on the back of
the old video treasures, but it is four paragraphs
long. I'm not going there. So I'm going to go ahead and cheat
and read from IMDb. Some kind soul has written one
sentence. An architect and his wife move into a
colonial mansion where the demonic presence of
the original owner's wife takes residence.
I like that. There you go. That's all you need.
I don't know if you know this, Mark, but when I read these things,
I try to read them so that people listening can't
understand what the plot is. I read them as badly as possible.
So I try to make it like an abstraction kind of thing. I go beyond.
You do? Yes. You go beyond. Above and
beyond what's required. I'm well below beyond at this
point. We're gonna spoil this movie.
Promise. I can't recommend it enough, especially if you
can find this thing cheap. I have no idea if. If this is one
of those ones that Vinegar Syndrome has phased
out yet or not. I'm hoping. Can you still go beyond evil?
This world? Oh, yeah. You can. Oh, yeah.
Nobody's buying this. 16 bucks. Go for it. Everybody give.
I know what Linda Day's gonna get for her birthday from me.
Yes. Oh, she just throws it on the
pile with the rest of them. Oh, Linda. So many of
these. So in the cast. This cast is phenomenal.
Got John Saxon, who?
No shame. Here I am, man crushing. Always have had
a man crush on John Saxon. But he is fucking
ripped in this. Shirtless John Saxon in this film. I can't
believe they could find a shirt that could contain him. Even that. No,
no. Yeah. There's a moment in this movie, folks, where he almost
beats the shit out of somebody. And my brain.
My alarm bells sort of going off in my brain like he
trained with Bruce Lee. Everyone get out of there.
Like he could kill this building, much less you
and your puny ass. He looks phenomenal in this movie.
Oh, my God. I didn't expect that. I'll be
honest with you. Like I didn't expect, like, I knew he was in shape,
but I didn't expect that. Like, I was like,
oh, there's John Saxon. It's like an Easter egg for
the viewers who are like it. John Sexy Saxon
is what I call John Sexton. That's beyond sexy.
You know, it's great. All I could think about now is his performance
in My Mom's a Werewolf. Oh,
yes. Now that's a Blu Ray I want right there.
What a magical piece of cinema.
Next up is, of course, the old bastard herself, Linda Day
George. Two years before she would scream bastard
one too many times in pieces right
before. Was she in Graduation Day as well?
I know her husband was, but I don't believe she was. Yeah, good old,
good old, good old Christopher George gone
way too soon.
Yeah. I love Linda George so much. Oh, it's. I'm thinking of mortuary.
She's. Yeah, she wasn't same year, I believe. His pieces.
Sorry, his pieces. Not as this one. What a, what a masterpiece that is as
well. She's just so fun in everything
she does. Lietta and I were having trouble with her makeup
in this movie. Yes. Okay. One where her face is like
white. Yes. Lietta thought it might have been a cosmetic
touch up, but I just assumed that it's.
It's hot. And she was smiling a lot and it
just, she just sweat off her smile lines.
That's what I'm thinking. Because she's got some like serious smile lines.
Yeah, I chalked up to witch possession. Hey, you can only
go beyond the makeup chair. So many steps.
I don't know. We got. She plays. Oh,
yeah, they're married in this movie. Larry Andrews and Barbara Andrews.
Yeah. We'll get into their, their wonderful, wonderful plot here.
They're being led astray somewhat by Michael Dante,
who plays Del Giorgio, which I thought
his name was something. Del Giorgio.
I didn't realize that Del was the first name until quite
far into the movie. But this guy is quite
interesting. He was in an Elvis movie that I like called
Kid Galahad. See, I love him from Willard.
I love Willard. Oh, no, I'm thinking of Kid. I'm sorry, I'm thinking of Kid
Creole. Oh, my bad. God, I haven't seen
Willard in a thousand years. Is he like a villain in that?
I just remember he was in it, actually. This is horrible.
But like, I, I remember crushing on Ernest Fortnite
as a kid. I don't know.
Hey, he's a big personality. I guess.
I always think about him on that talk show. Do you remember him on that
talk show and they were talking about how he stayed young so long, and he.
He whispers, yells into the guy's ear. It's because I
masturbate a lot. Oh, no. Ernest Fortnite said this.
He literally said it on. On live tv. I may
need to stop for a moment. Oh,
no. I did not know this ever. But yeah, he was in Willard. Let's get
back on track with the rap movie. Yeah, he was in Willard.
Oh, yes. Adele, Giorgio. He's our. He's our shifty guy here
doing some deals. Next up, we have someone
named Mario Milano as Dr. Frank Albinos.
This guy is something else. I don't think I've ever seen
the other movies he did, but.
Okay, now hear me out. Did he not look like kind
of sexy Jerry Stiller? I will absolutely agree with you.
That's a. That's a Ben Stiller's dad. I just.
Because it took me forever and halfway through the movie, I screamed to Walter,
Jerry Stiller.
Is that your safe word? Yeah, it kind of shuts everything down, if you
know what I'm saying. Oh, okay. I get you. I get you. Next up,
we have the ghostly presence of Alma Martin, which is.
Lietta's grandmother's name was Alma. I love that name, actually.
It's a cool name. Wait a minute. I think someone in Walter's family was an
Alma, too. I believe this is. She's played by Janice.
Linda. And Janice Lind found her
TV show. She was in a lot of shows, but she only ever did,
like, one episode. Except for Another
World, she was that for 33 episodes. But she just
seems like a very soap opera y type of person. So I was surprised
that, you know, she wasn't on One Life to live for 700
episodes or something like that. But she's great looking mean.
In this movie we got Dr. Solomon, who's a quote unquote healer,
self described healer. This is David Opetoshu.
Good for you. I am probably butchering that,
but yeah. Freaking movies and tv.
But what about horror? Let's see. I didn't.
Twilight Zone. Yeah. Like TV shows and stuff. Like, you know, you. Because I
thought I knew him, but then I went back and looked. I'm like,
no, I don't really. He's got that face. Yep. But was he ever
on Murder, She Wrote? That's what we really want to know anyway.
Yes. So he's our healer. He's gonna reach into some people and
take out their guts. Those are the primary people in
the cast. Can I mention one more person, please. Because I'm
losing it. So Alma has a
no good husband. Esteban. Esteban.
Esteban. And that's Zito Kazan. Okay. He's got the. He's got the
mustache in the picture. Yes. But I know it because as a
child, there were three things that terrified me. The Bermuda Triangle,
killer bees and Bigfoot. And I just. Oh, and quicksand. I gotta throw in that.
Oh, of course. He was in a TV movie called Satan's Triangle that I
remember terrifying me. So I want to throw that out there because that actually,
you know, I'm. Trying to remember if I saw that I was on a.
I was on a TV binge of watching,
like, supernatural slash, like, weird phenomena
type of movies. So I watch, like,
Overlords of the ufo or I can't
remember the name of that one. But anyway, okay,
he's in that werewolf. TV series, which I can't find anywhere.
I want that so bad. I remember when that premiered. I thought that was so
good. I was all. When I came out, that was
great stuff. I'm a big werewolf guy.
Talking about mixed blessings, about getting old TV shows on
dvd. Finally, we were talking about Tales
from the Dark side. Have you seen. What'd you say?
Hey, we've watched that Halloween episode of Facts of Life a lot
with Claire. When she gets dippity dooed. I don't remember the dippity dude.
Okay, this was the one where they thought Mrs.
Garrett was a cannibal and was feeding people human meat in her sausages.
Oh, that's great. That's a great episode. No, I grew up watching that show,
so I'm surprised I don't remember the dippity too.
That's where they turn Blair around. Her hair is, like, real big. Someone screams,
oh, no. She's been dippity, dude.
No, we're talking about how the Tales of the Dark side.
Tales from the Dark side DVD set is unwatchable.
Yeah, some of those are really bad. Brutal. Like, I never
thought that downloading people's VHS tapes
off of, like, Internet archive would be preferable
to an actual, like, set. So, yeah, we're gonna jump into this plot.
You know, here's the thing about this movie. We can't do
the whole movie because it is. Every scene has something fun in
it. I managed to get this down to, like, 13 or 14
key elements here, and I'm still leaving stuff out.
Yep. And some of the plot really just goes nowhere.
Like, there's stuff they introduced. It's like, well, we're done.
Yes. This. This is a Troma Team release. This is one of their.
Not a Troma Team production, but one that they distributed. So they've got that
forever in the. The Beyond Evil lineage. They'll always have
Troma Team. Although this was filmed
on MGM lots, so who knows? We get
a nice opening with what I call Afro Satan
or Kabuki Kiss makeup credits.
We have some fire spinning and some,
like, blades and flying around. And this just
guys looking really, for lack
of a better term, like from the islands. Like some kind of island nation
somewhere. It's supposed to be Hawaii, isn't it? But this. They never
went anywhere near Hawaii for this movie. This is all in
California. All of it. Yeah. I love it. And they.
They also try to make it feel like a third world thing, too, because there's
always this impression that American
money goes really far here. But.
But it's supposed to be Hawaii. Okay. Doesn't it
feel like a Philippine horror film? Yes, that's what I thought they were going
for. Yeah, it totally feels like that. Brilliant.
So we have a couple getting married in
this strange island nation.
And they are.
The wife is very coy, maybe a little too coy.
She's playing fun games with her new hubby, and they get separated. And she
goes to this creepy old mansion where a
mean old white woman stares at her from the window. And what happens
when this occurs? So she sees
what I immediately thought was Bette Davis, but no, they couldn't afford Bette Davis.
But there's this woman looking out the window. And then instead
of, like, departing the premises, the woman stands there
frozen in fear as a column falls towards her and
then pins her arm to the ground. On her wedding day.
Yes. Yeah. And I'm sorry, a stone pillar.
Yes. On your arm. That arm is not broken.
That arm is gone. She gets rescued by our
healer guy, and he just stares at the house like,
you son of a bitch. In the house. I'm gonna get you.
And then we cut to Linda Day. George and Jock
Saxon, whoever he is, showing up at the airport,
meeting up with their pal Del Giorgio. And I
think this is where they talk about Barbara
like she's not there. Is this. Is this right? Yeah. Well, okay. So,
yeah, first her hair looks amazing because it's all curly. And then
she's wearing that leopard thing. But real quick. Yeah. So then they're driving
back to, like, their hotel. And so we've got to understand.
So John and Del are business
partners, right? Del was formerly married to
Barbara. Mm. So Del's Driving
John's shotgun. And Barbara's been back, but for
all intents and purposes, they either think that she's dead or deaf
or she's like the wind is too loud with the open window because they're just
discussing her like she doesn't even exist right
there in the front seat. Like she can't hear in the backseat. Right. It's pretty
horrible. I think. Their pal Del is
supposed to be getting them an apartment while John Saxon is
working on his construction project. But the apartment,
quote unquote, isn't ready. So they go to this hotel
and we meet Dr. Albano, who rescues Barbara's
bag for her. And he matches everything
else. Yes. And he creepily hits on her, of course. Yes. And then
we see him wheeling and dealing with somebody about this whole construction
project. So we get the idea he's a shady character, too. Well, the mustache
doesn't help. And he orders a Campari,
which I think would, according to Lietta,
would be disgusting if you just got a glass of Campari.
I mean, you. You make a Campari with other ingredients
in a drink. You don't just drink Campari. I'm sorry. I think
as long as you follow the drink with the hot buns that the guy's
giving them with the fire twirling underneath his ducks,
I think it would go down just fine. The local culture, I'll put
that in quotes. You know, the local culture of downtown
la. The dude is spinning the fire and
just like throwing it all over the place. Holding it with his feet,
holding with the back of his thighs. So he is hairless. He's completely burned
all the hair off his body. God bless him. So it's a Polynesian
themed restaurant, and anyone who's not
like main cast members are pretty much Hispanic.
Yep. But it's supposed to be Hawaii. Okay, there you go, folks.
I love it. Do. Do with that what you will, everybody.
So at dinner, Del has a girlfriend that's there with him,
but he, you know, he's making this big show of
how he and Barbara used to be an item
and she just blurts out,
well, he's dynamite in bed, if that's
what you mean. Referring to John Saxon and just making the
dinner completely shut down. Completely awkward and
weird. I love that part. Oh, my God,
so much fun. Men love him. What can I tell you?
He's got them all conned. Hope he's as good with you as
he is on the job.
Well, he's dynamite in bed, if that's what you mean.
So finally he reveals to them, there was no apartment. It's just this big,
giant mansion. And he's acquired them for nothing. Like,
they're. How did you do this? Did you steal this
house from somebody? What's going on? The catch, of course,
is that it's haunted. And, you know, we all want to know who it's haunt.
Who's the ghost who's haunting the place? And the name Alma Martine
is thrown around Del's date.
Immediately, like, does the sign of the cross. Yes, the cross. And then drinks,
like, a little shot. She takes a shot. She's so nervous.
So then we have a flashback. We hear a little bit of the story,
how this couple killed each other in the house. But in the flashback,
what do we see, Mark? What happens? Okay, so Alma's,
like, kind of prim and proper. And basically, if you're at
all familiar with Elizabeth Montgomery's portrayal of Lizzie
Borden from the TV movie, she looks just like that. So get that in your
head. So her first. And the marriage
was arranged. So she comes out and her first meeting
of Esteban is with him and two other women,
like, at his knees. So this is who you're married to.
So it starts off very poorly. And he's
married her really for, like, access to, like, land. Isn't it,
like, basically just for shipping purposes?
And so she decides that really for love. That's why
she wants to get married, which. What a weird concept.
So she decides that if he's not gonna love her, she's gotta, like, make a
pact with Satan, basically, to get back at him. And it
kind of goes downhill really quick from there. And I wrote in my notes,
esteban, my dude, what are you wearing? Oh,
I'm sorry. So Esteban looks like Howie Mandel in
a really bad production of the Pirates of Penzance.
Just saying.
I couldn't even describe it. I was like, buccaneer.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God, it's so good.
Pretty much. So. Yes. So. So now we know the
story of what happened. And of course, she. She kills him.
She makes his neck all crunchy after he poisoned her. So, yeah, after he killed
her, she dies. She comes back from the grave.
I love her look. Her corpse look. Which is
just a little blood in her forehead and just screaming and like.
Ms. Lee Press on nails, kind of. Yes. She snaps
his neck. And of course, the very first night,
immediately, Barbara is experiencing haunting
things. There's a scratchy throat demon. But even
weirder than a voice that would be talking to you in your house, a disembodied
voice. There's a fucking statue of Satan. Now,
by that he means a Pier 1 paper mache effigy of
Satan. That's at the top of the stairs. Hey, I worked at Pier 1 Imports.
I would have gotten a 10% discount. 10%?
10%. That's all they gave us. I guess it was. That was the only place.
It was the only retail place I worked at. I didn't shoplift
from. Now, can I say something really quick,
please? Madonna owned that house for a while. Yes, that is
in the trivia. So, no, it's fine. The big
mansion that they show in this movie was owned by Madonna
very briefly. Or maybe not briefly.
I'm just wondering how long she lived there. That's great. So she got a stalker
and she realized that people could jump the walls easily. And then that's when she
sold it. Gotta get out of there. You gotta get out of there.
Speaking of amazing sequences.
So the next morning, the locals
are delivering the luggage of
John Saxon and Linda Day George. And because they hear a
noise downstairs, they look over on their balcony and their fucking
lugg just flying from the doorway. No one
will set foot in the house. They're so scared, they are pitching
their in through the front door.
I laughed and laughed at that.
What was the luggage that the monkey would destroy in the commercials
at Samsonite. Samsonite. Holy.
Yeah. Oh, my God. I laugh so hard at that now.
Do you think that's how they delivered Madonna's luggage as well?
Sean Penn made them do that. Oh, no,
that was Sean Penn thr the luggage. We at American Tourister know
that when your suitcase is out of your hands, it's out of your hands.
That's why American Tourist suitcases are reinforced with
strong stainless steel frames and solid locks that won't
spring open on contact. Sure, you may
pay a little more in the beginning, but it'll
sure pay in the end. American Tourister.
It's not just how good it looks, it's how long it looks good.
Of course, we have some incidents of Supernatural where
Barbara's just glowing green from the top
of the stairs. They love the green in this. They sure do. And John Saxon's
going, are you all right? Like she's fucking irradiated.
But. And then, of course, the devil statue almost falls on Jock.
Keep saying Jock. Yeah. You shouldn't do that to me because I'll get that image
of Jon in a jock strap. I'm very sorry. Yeah, don't do that. Very sorry.
Don't do that. So we get to
see Dr. Frank and Dell having some words
about this whole construction project. There was.
There was some funny stuff at the construction site where John Saxon
is trying to explain why this building is not structurally sound,
and he turns into a blah, blah, blah moment. Oh, these supports
aren't going to hold up anything. Oh, yeah. Let's go get drinks tonight,
right? Yes. Yeah. Did you notice it was an earlier
scene at the construction site where the. The smarmy
doctor was there, too? Did you notice his, like, kiss boots?
Yes. Those were amazing. Wow.
Yeah, those were some platform shoes that man was rocking,
dude. I mean, gonna rock and roll all. Night and party every day.
I wish that. I wish people just bring those back. Like, everyone wants
to be taller, right? Oh, my God. I'd be all over those things.
There's a line of dialogue. I did not write down the whole thing because I
was running out of space to write it down. I'm gonna look for this desperately,
Larry. John Saxon, he wants to get romantic.
And Barbara's like, no, not tonight. I don't want to be touched.
And he's like, what's wrong? And she goes, I just
feel like. The real me took off somewhere and. Left a yuck in its
place. Left a yuck in its place.
I guess it's better than, like, the Three Stooges leaving a.
Yeah. Oh, man. I went. I really went beyond the. Beyond the
joke on that one. See, I was actually going to say that when you asked
me how I was doing. I was going to say, well, the real me took
off someplace and left a yuck in its place. Oh, man. We were talking
about. We were talking about Rocky Horror earlier. I'll say.
It's not easy having a good time. Even smiling makes my face ache.
Then Dr. Sullivan, our healer pal, introduces himself
to Larry, and he's like, what you need is a healer.
And then what happens?
There's something about Barbara being gassy. Can we talk about that?
I just. Okay. There's a scene with her boots for no
reason, and she's standing at the kitchen sink, and she's got
her boots. And then from behind her comes this mistake,
which, for all intents and purposes, almost looks like she's past visible
gas. It comes up between her legs.
I'm so sorry, but it really does. People. It's so
strange. And then, so earlier,
Alma, like, did the whole demon thing. She actually punctured
her left hand with a knife. And then she got this, like, a.
For awful, I think. Yeah. No, it's for Alma.
It's for Alm. Yeah. So then
Barbara does the same thing at the sink after she's been flatulent.
And then, you know, John comes in and asks if she's okay, but she
isn't. She's feeling yuck. Yep. What a yuck. Yeah.
So she goes to the hospital. He takes her to the hospital and
the doctor, Dr. Frank is on the case and
he's, he's, you know, giving her, trying to give her a prescription.
And she literally laughs in his face because
she doesn't believe in medicine or math. Or math.
Or math. Yeah. Or that birds can really fly.
I'm so scared if she does that birds are fake,
I'm out of here. I can't deal with that shit.
Or a good makeup artist apparently. So she, yeah,
she definitely fired her freaking stylist after this movie
later we have Dr. Frank making creepy house calls
and a little bit of car trouble for Dr. Frank where
he's driving down the street and Barbara puts the whammy on his car and the
doors fly off and the hood
and it does a complete 180 spin out thing. And then as it's going
off a cliff, it fucking explodes.
Oh, it's so good.
But before this, he does warn her not to go to the crypt because it's
a grisly place to go. Which of course immediately she heads there.
What a great line. I love that line. Yeah. Oh, it's grizzly.
Grizzly. Now if it's a Grizzly Adams place to go,
I would be there. Hey, then you got to use the fire to burn all
the hair off. That's a lot of hair on Grizzly Adams.
A Hairless Dan Haggerty. We wouldn't know who he
was. We wouldn't know who he was. Who are you? Ben,
come over here and identify this man.
Ben. Gentle Ben. Larry's very worried. John Saxon.
I called him John Saxon for like the first half hour. Now I'm just calling
him Larry because that's his character's name. He goes to the hospital
to get the test results because he's really worried about Barbara.
And he throws a freaking tantrum
at the hospital where he just chews out this poor woman
behind the desk. But there was no tests ever taken.
Dr. Albinos is a frickin liar.
And he roughs up a couple of orderlies and I'm
terrified for them. And it came out of nowhere like that punch just
came out of nowhere like I think I left in the Walt's
lab. It scared me to death.
Dr. Sullivan shows off his healing magic for
Larry. He's Pulling freaking tumor out of a lady.
And Larry is not immediately, like,
you're a fraud. Like, I remember when I
was a kid watching a special about how these people who
pretend to do surgery, mystical surgeries,
are frauds. And they tuck little pieces of meat in,
like, in their hand, like, in a little, like,
pouch. Pretend to pull out a tumor from people with fake
blood. But I knew this was real because
her phone latex was so convincing with that nipple.
Hey, if it's in a movie, it's real. It's real.
Yeah. No, that's funny you brought that up because we were talking about the same
thing. That totally reminded me of that. Yep. That's awesome.
The cultural knowledge that we bring to this show, let me tell you.
Yes. Among Hawaiian tribes
at the time. Yeah. And Polynesian tribes and Hispanic tribes.
I want. I want it to be real. Get.
Get this. Get this tumor out of me.
So later. I did not
write any of this down. This is just my. Probably my favorite sequence in
the movie where Larry goes home and Barbara comes
in with a black mask on. Yes. It's a thermal
mask she's wearing for her face. And I
wrote in my notes, this entire conversation
is crazy. I can't even process anything that's happening.
It's just a wall of an exchange
that is just so great. It's about her being crazy and getting
weirder and weirder and weirder as the movie goes on. But it's just.
I love it. After this, we have a little
construction site. Whoopsie. What happens at the old building
here? Well, now. Okay, so there's a couple
things I need to talk about. One of them is that Del refuses to wear
a hard hat, and he's their boss, and he's just roaming around this construction
site without a hard at all, which I find disturbing. Okay. But anyway,
I guess more importantly is that the demonic
presence has decided that it needs Larry
out of the way. So it activates this crane
with all this, like, scaffolding and stuff on it to basically kill
Larry. But instead, fortunately,
it kills, like, an expendable construction worker who doesn't really matter.
Poor guy. Yeah. So that. He's just.
He's just. But now the effect was pretty. Pretty cool.
Because at first I'm like, they just killed someone because he really was expendable.
It looked pretty good. But. Yeah. But Del saves John.
How long do you want me to go on? Because there's a lot about this
that I find really strange. Oh, please hear it.
So, okay, so Del pushes John out
of the way and then John says that the power lines
aren't working, which is important because he's worried
that if Barbara finds out there was an accident,
she's going to think it's John. Yes, exactly. But the power lines
aren't working. But somehow she's going to find out. I don't know.
Okay, so they go back into the construct
Adele's office and have a drink on the work site.
Yes. So there's alcohol on the work site.
So then John says, hey, Dell, why don't you go
back to my house with my wife, who was your
ex wife, and let her know I'm okay. I'm gonna stay here
and work now that I've had an alcoholic beverage.
But you do this for me. Okay? That's what I wanted to talk about.
Now I'm done. No, it's fine. And I think in that conversation is when Dell
blames women. Oh, yeah. For all the problems in the world. Del is
a piece of work, people. Yeah, yeah. Dell's something else.
Oh, boy. Sometimes I'm thinking his Del seen John
Saxon with his shirt off. And does he want Barbara out of
the picture? To have John Saxon Larry to himself,
man. Because he seems like he really wants Barbara out
of the picture. Oh, man. I have an uncle who reminds
me of Delay. Not in a good way. I have
like a sleazy uncle who kind of reminds me of Del.
I love it. Adele goes back to, you know, let Barbara
know that everything's okay, and it's immediately
weird. She's acting very unlike herself.
Just being flirty with him and everything is very weird.
Sure enough, they start kissing, but it's. She's way
too needy. She's way too into it and creeping him
out. And she throws his ass over the ledge with
her psychic powers or just pushes him where his
body unceremoniously will be like in a
ravine for the rest of the movie. I think you're downplaying
her green starburst eyes. Yes, that is
a key feature. If you look up this movie anywhere, you will see
laser eyes. Like glowing green eyes and laser
eyes. So Richard, did he walk there on foot? Because where's
his car? Maybe her psychic powers drove it to
an empty parking lot. I can't believe you thought of that. It's awesome.
Okay, so real quick, can I interject something,
please? Because a little earlier on we see that her
wedding ring finger is getting
swollen. Yeah, I was just going into that. Oh, go for it.
Oh, my God. So disturbs me. It looks a little irritated
at first and I Immediately, I'm like, that's disgusting.
Makeup team, you're doing good. But then it gets worse and
worse and worse until her finger looks
like the monster's finger from the
Creeping Flesh with Peter Cushing.
That's so disgusting. It,
like, it. It looks like you would just throw up
if you touched anything because the pain would be so intense.
Her nail looks like it's gonna pop off. Yes. From the pressure.
It's disgusting. And you'd have to cut the wedding band off. Like,
sliding it off is no longer an option. Yes. I won't go into details,
but I had an infected fingernail once. Just the tip of my fingernail,
and it hurt so bad. If I put my hand
on anything, touched anything, I would start crying.
It hurt so bad. And it
was just a hangnail. It was just a hangnail.
And I was such a goofball as a teenager, I didn't know
how to deal with it until it was hurting me to the point where I
was, like, crying. I don't know how I'm alive sometimes.
I'm such a. Yeah, yeah. So.
So, yes. Her ring fingers looking gnarly as shit.
It just gets worse. And kudos to whoever did the special effects on that because
it was so disturbing. Yep. So Larry,
John Saxon guy, he has lost faith in hospitals because of
the incident. So he takes Barbara
to the healer, and this goes great. What happens when they go see the
healer? So, okay, you bring.
Not on Larry's part, but the healer's already said that
he thinks there's something wrong with Barbara. Yep. Yep. So I'm.
I'm cool with. With Larry doing this, but. But what was the
healer thinking? So he's doing another one of his, like,
operations on a younger girl. And of
course, it goes horribly wrong because there's a witch watching,
and the girl dies on the table. And then the healer looks, like, shocked that
this was happening. I'm like, what were you thinking the outcome was going to be,
sir? And then she storms. And then she storms off,
and, like, she's upset. So Barbara storms off
because she doesn't have faith in healers. So much
drama. So much drama. Yeah. Or the Internet.
She doesn't have faith in the Internet. Yeah. She needs some supplements.
Yes, she needs something because she has faith in nothing. My favorite
part here is when the healer was working on the one lady,
he pulled a little tumor out. When Barbara fucks
up his surgery, like, totally blows it for him. An entire
organ is trying to fly out of this poor little girl that he's working On.
Oh, it's so funny. Yes. Later, we find Del's
body. The police find Del's body. And, you know,
they're vaguely suspicious of Larry and Barbara.
Like, what happened here? What is he doing at the bottom of the ravine
just outside your mansion? And then the movie
breaks for a moment. We have one of the weirdest
editing kerfuffles that's ever happened
where Lietta and I kept going back to watch this editing nonsense.
So John Saxon is, like,
talking to the healer and then he's
leaving. And they have a stunt double, a not
John Saxon in his jeep, driving around the streets of la,
AKA Hawaii. And it cuts back to he and the healer talking in
a different location. Yes. And I'm like, whoa,
whoa, whoa. What are we doing? It is awesome.
It is so awesome. There must have been some shenanigans.
I know. There was a little bit in the extras about one
of the master copies of the film getting destroyed
in an editing machine. Or was it Alma? It was
Alma. She. This film was cursed. I think so. So one of
the master copies of the film, they at mgm,
they running it through a winder, and the little
spindles that hold the. The film in place weren't
threaded correctly. And it just chewed up the film.
So one of the reasons the movie looks the way it looks is they had
to make it the whole movie from like a not
color corrected copy. Interesting. So this movie
was supposed to be really bright and colorful, like even more bright and colorful
than it is. Oh, interesting.
And that cost them some distribution deals
because the movie didn't look very good. The actual print they were sending distributors
didn't look very good. That was from the producer
interview, I think. Interesting. Yeah, it was crazy.
So anyway, we got a big showdown. What happens in this showdown? I mean,
it's completely bonkers. I like when, like, Larry comes
home and she's at the top of the stairs looking like Elizabeth Montgomery from
Lizzie Borden. Right, right. And she's like, you know, help me. And then
just disappears right in front of his eyes. But he's, like, nonplussed by any
of this. He's like, oh, I gotcha. Like, this happens all the time.
It's just part of being married. That's just the
way she is. So that happens.
And then there's so much green. Like they do the green reverse.
Yes. And you get like green like laser beams shooting
and everything. And then she gets the.
You get the, like the man voice kind
of coming from the witch.
Yeah, yeah. Well, also,
the healers come back With. With Larry as well in tow.
Right. Yeah. So the healer's on the premises as well, and they decide that
they have to destroy. Well, we kind of skipped something, didn't we?
I'm sure we did. The healer's family member goes
back. Leah. Yep. Yeah. And gets attacked by
a electrical cord which fries her and leaves nothing but beads and hair
and dust, which. I love that. That was the director's wife,
by the way. Oh, really? Yep. That was his wife at the time.
Like a Dario Argento with Dario Nicolode
thing here, huh? He's got a killer on camera again and again and again.
Man, are you mad at me?
But. So they decide that they've got to destroy the crypts to
rid the world of the witch. Yes. In doing so,
I feel like I'm jumping around too much. Don't. Don't worry about it.
My notes have stopped completely already. I thought
I was gonna remember everything.
So in doing so, the witch turns
basically to smoke once she's destroyed. Right.
And then she basically turns to like, I put like a witch
in the wind, and it just dust and she blows away.
And you also can kind of see that it's a wig with the skeleton
disintegrating. So cool. And then they get that Satan
overlap from before with the guy with the curly hair.
But then they decide to leave. And I'm thinking, no,
you've got the house to yourself now. Because the witch is like, ding dong,
the witch is dead. You can stay. But then they leave,
which I'm like, but, Richard, why? I don't understand why
they wanted them in that house so badly to begin. Like, the doctor
and Del. Like, it seemed like a purposeful that they want him
in the house. And I don't understand why. It's just baffling.
Okay, yeah, but that was beyond evil. And I don't feel like.
I mean, no offense, but I really don't feel like we did it justice.
No, absolutely. I was just gonna say, folks,
we left out over half the movie to make
sure this discussion wasn't a point by point thing.
Because, I mean, it's. It's just so. This is such a freaking
phenomenal experience to experience.
Oh, also, real quick. Yeah. Once the doctor dies,
there's no more mention of him. Like, no one cares that he's disappeared from this
earth. Whatever just goes flying through a wall. So many unanswered questions
that it's just like, oh, well, never mind. Who needs it?
Who needs it? So, yeah, so both doctors are just destroyed.
So, yeah, Dr. Albanos blown up.
Dr. Sullivan goes flying through a wall. And that's it.
Yeah.
So the real get for this movie is Pino di Naggio.
Oh yeah. Who does the score. And there's a couple moments where,
where I'm like, I think Pino was. I'm gonna make anything.
Cuz there's some really weird cues in this freaking movie.
I mean, I like the music, but there's moments where I'm like,
this was shot by somebody named Ken Platten or Plotin
who worked on Hide and Go Shriek.
Wow. I, I something, isn't it? So that's a, that's an
experience. That movie's beyond a slasher.
Edited by Richard E. Westover.
I'm wondering if he wanted to take his name off of this one,
but. Yes. What did he edit? Ah, he edited some
pornography. Good for him. He edited a movie that a lot of
the people who worked on this worked on Tomboy.
I was gonna ask if you've seen Tomboy? I, I have seen the,
the follow up. The follow up. Are they made by the same person?
Well, her. Herb Free directed it. Okay, I'm getting.
Yeah, because there's a movie that's in this same guy's credits the following year called
My Chauffeur. Oh yeah, with the girl from April Fool's Day.
Yes, I'm very familiar with that movie. That movie was very.
What? Very weird to watch when I was 10 with my parents. Well,
yeah, I can imagine. Yeah. But I've never seen Tomboy.
It's got Betsy Russell. Yeah, it was from cheerleader camp. Yeah.
Wow, that's crazy. I need to catch up on that.
And I need to watch my chauffeur again. Confront my childhood fears.
That's gonna drive me crazy. What is the actress's name? I love her. She just
kind of disappeared. I love that actress. Not in a call HR way.
Just like she's really cool. Deborah Foreman. Yes, Deborah Foreman.
I really like Deborah Foreman. She's amazing. She's amazing.
I, I forgot she was in Valley Girl. Oh yeah.
I haven't seen that forever. Is Valley
Girl. Is E G Daily. And Valley Girl. She is.
I don't like because I love EG Daily and
I don't like that they like. I feel like her nude scene
was just like not really necessary and they totally into it.
Yeah, yeah. I mean it was, it served the plot. I mean
not the nude scene, but this, this her sex scene served the plot.
But she didn't need to be naked for that. No. I love EG Dailey.
She's amazing. Trivia wise, we talked about Madonna's
house. But did we talk about it enough?
We went beyond all the details.
So director Herb Freed apparently got along so well with Linda
Day George that he cast her husband Christopher George
in Graduation Day, which I thought was very sweet. And other than
what I learned about the film nearly getting completely destroyed by mgm,
did you have any other trivia about this little wonder?
I do not. I apologize. But there really. I couldn't find a lot on
it. And I do like how I'm just gonna say it. I think you're scared
and that's why you're still sticking to the MGM story. Because,
you know, it was Alma. I'm just gonna say it. She was destroying
the film. I'm not afraid of her. I'm putting that out there.
You should be afraid. Yeah. Don't hide it.
Flash em your copper toned tan. Flash em
the dark tan. Flash em the fast tan.
Flash em a copper tone tan. Get the tan. You gotta flash
with Coppertone lotion oil, New light formula
oil. Then.
This movie. So, so, so. Mark, I feel like I know
how you feel about this movie. Tell me about your Beyond
Passion. It's shirtless John
Saxon. It's Linda Day George
at her finest. I'm not joking when I say this.
There are some of her line deliveries that it's so
sincere. Like when she's like, you know, if this really
is a haunted house, I need to know. And I'm like, yes, she does
need to know. Don't hold out on her.
You know, you got smarmy Jerry Stiller
just. I'm telling you, the green reverse,
the, you know, the witches. Ms. Lee Press on nails.
It's got it all. Your Polynesian dancers pretending to be Hawaiian
who really aren't. It's incredible. I don't.
Yeah. See this, people? You need this in your life. It's beyond entertaining.
I love it. It goes. It exceeds.
It exceeds beyondness. Yeah. This is
one I had never heard of before the Blu Ray
came out, bought it sight unseen and just.
I've loved it ever since. It's just so fun.
I want to show this to. I want to show this to people. This is
a party movie right here. Big time fashions
are epic. Everyone is tacky, either in
Hawaiian shirts or in white suits.
And, you know, the big. The big tall heels
on all the men's shoes. The story is very simple.
Like, simple as in the setup is simple. The plot
is insanely complicated. The effects
are fun. The dialogue, every line is a riot.
I remember Thinking this felt like a TV movie
the first time I saw it. Totally.
Where the mild cursing,
nudity, and some of the gore, which is never explicit,
but there's some gore in this movie. That one girl gets her head
split open and that. That dance. The nude girl,
which is the only nudity in the movie, which is like silhouetted. Yeah.
Yep. So that's crazy.
The echo Echo Azerock is the chants when
Alma's doing her thing, which is the chant. We didn't talk about that. The chants
are amazing. Like it's a Wiccan chant. That they're actually like doing that,
like at a win. What? Yeah, it's amazing.
The chants are amazing. I think one is Iko.
Iko. Yeah, let's get
it all in there. It's pretty cool, folks. The only thing bad
I could say about it is I wish they would gone back into the
city, the. The Hawaiian city some more, just to mix
it up. They spend a lot of time at the house, a lot of time
outside the house. But I mean, that's me searching for something to nitpick
about. I. I just love this so much.
Oh, my God, what a treat. We did
a gift. We went. We went way beyond what any
other podcast would do for beyond evil. Except I didn't watch
all the extras. But, you know, I always say
this when I finish a movie, I don't want to see it for another year.
I like. And everybody has clips of the movie in
there to pad out the interviews.
And I understand showing a small clip of an example
when the person's talking about a specific scene, but I always
feel bad for Blu Ray companies who are like, we can't just put
a five minute interview. We have to make it a 15 minute spectacular
with credits, the beginning and end, and all the clips from
the movie mixed in. I'm like, no, you don't.
Let's. Let's make it snappy here.
Well, sometimes they're like longer than the movie. Like you get a movie
documentary about. The movie, which I love when that happens. What was
the movie? What is the one where it's. The guy
is trying to come to terms with the childhood trauma and they have the
big piece of wood. It's a. It's a wooden
marionette. Is it the Fear? Was that what that
one was? It's a 90s movie or an 80s. The one that vinegar
syndrome put out. Yeah. The covers like wooden, right?
Yeah. 1985. The fear. Yeah.
I think, if I'm not mistaken, that DVD
or that Blu Ray has a Feature length
making of that movie. It's crazy because
that was a passion project apparently. Yeah, some of those things are.
Yeah. Yep. That was Vinegar syndrome. I like the sequel.
Okay, it's. It's. It's an hour long documentary, but still it's an hour.
Yeah, yeah. Plus commentary tracks. Multiple commentary
tracks. The sequel takes place on Halloween and it's a
really wonderfully half assed Halloween spooky
movie. So I recommend the sequel. What's it called?
So it's the Fear and then the sequel's called like
the Fear Halloween Night. Really? I did not know that
existed. Oh, it's called. It's got two titles. The Fear
Colon Resurrection and the Fear
two Colon Halloween Night. So you got your choice.
And the. The Fear. I think the original is actually good.
I don't love the characters in it. They're a little like
strident for me. They're. They're all dicks.
But they bumped that up with the sequel and everyone's just
preposterously mean to each other and everyone's
unlikable and it just happens to be Halloween.
And they're dressed like their fears and then they get killed off by their
worst fears. That's kind of a fun premise. You should check it out.
It's real stupid. It's. One of. You might have a
reverse good time with it. But Mark,
before I let you escape this.
I know we've gone beyond. I can't even think of any
more puns. What is a recently
seen by you movie that you love? It can be
any genre. It can be an old favorite or a new to you.
Watch. What do you got? So I'm gonna bring to the
table the Snake Girl and the Silver Haired Witch. Oh my God.
Yes. It's from what? 1968.
Directed by Noriaki Yuasa,
I hope. Yes, but it's like a fairy
tale, like gone horribly wrong.
It's super creepy. The visuals are like amazing.
Actress. The little girl. I'm sorry. So basically, I don't
want to spoil it. It's basically a orphan who gets reunited
with her birth parents. And it's not
a dream come true. It is amazing. It's based on. I haven't read it.
It was based on a manga. Apparently. I'm not familiar with the manga,
but the movie is fantastic. Arrow Videos
has put it out. I highly recommend it. It is so.
Visually it's just stunning.
I love this movie. I would make people watch this. Like I
would want to sit down and watch this with people just for their reactions.
1,000%. I love it. I saw that
months before the Blu ray came out. I had found a download
and it just blew me away completely. And then out of
nowhere they announced that Blu ray. I was so excited.
And it is one of the
best representations of. Of 60s manga
adaptation. Like, a lot of the manga I read is
from the 80s and the 90s and some modern stuff.
It took me a while to get into the old
60s stuff and the 70s stuff because it was so.
It felt really, for lack of a better term,
like basic, kind of like I was like, ooh,
the very broad emotions, very big.
Everything's very like shock panels, you know,
like where people are, they turn around and see something scary and the whole panel's
their face, their mouth, just making an O circle, you know.
But I started to love the tone of those
60s manga and snake Girl and the
Silver haired witch. Nails it, nails it, nails it,
nails it. All of the important details you need are just left
out. All you need is the premise and
you're going, you don't need any stuff to explain anything.
And they keep throwing more and more weird red herrings at you. And it
gets bigger and more complicated. Holy shit, that movie's
great. Yeah. I want to say it was the same
year as another absolute masterpiece from Japan.
Let me see if it's the same year. Yes. 1968 was a
magical time. The Living Skeleton.
This I don't know. Okay. Directed by Hiroki Matsuno.
This is the guy who did. Oh, no,
he didn't do very much. Never mind. No connection. Other than
the same year and another black and white great Japanese
horror film. This looks amazing.
Richard Criterion put that out in a box set called
When Horror Came to Shochiku.
Yep. When Horror Came to Shochiku. And it
was. I hope it's still available for sale.
Yep. You can still add it to cart. Apparently it's got the X from Outer
Space. It's got Goke, Body Snatcher from Hell, the Genocide,
which is a genocide, which is a killer bugs movie.
And then the Living Skeleton is an absolute
banger. So that's amazing. Okay. But yeah,
sorry to hijack that. No, no, I heartily
recommend the Snake Girl. It's just so fun
and feverish and. Wild and
I love the little girl. Like she makes the movie because she's just
so sweet. Yep, she is. She's grade A awesome. She just
has that energy and they let her run with it. So she's.
She's precocious to the point of like, why does she need foster parents?
Just Give her a freaking apartment. She's gonna live her life.
She did what she wanted. Oh, yeah. So I
have been. Aside from taking notes for movies
for this show, I have been filling my days with television
instead of movies. But in my defense, I've been watching
feature length episodes of my
favorite. One of my favorite shows of all time could almost be
my favorite show of all time, which is Inspector Morse,
which is a British mystery show. Started in the
80s and then wrapped up in the early 2000s.
The cast had kind of moved on, but they came back and did specials,
which is why if you look on IMDb it looks like the show was on
for like 35 years, but they just made
some extra bonus episodes and then that was it. But the
show was so popular, it spawned two series.
It had a sequel series and a prequel series,
and it's all British as hell. And Morse
is a opera loving, literature loving
police detective who's very grouchy and shitty to
everyone and his. His long suffering sergeant.
And it's just. I love this show so much,
I can't even. So now. How are you accessing this,
Richard? So there is a.
I have the DVD set, but. Oh, okay. Okay. It's also streaming
on Britbox because of course Liette and I are fake
British people and we have Britbox and Acorn and PBS
and all these. The only thing we don't have is BBC America.
The shows that they were trying to make that were like
crossovers, we just didn't like them. We're like, nah, we'll just watch British
shit. So I have seen
30 episodes, 25 episodes. They're all an hour and
40 minutes a piece. Is a commitment to watch an episode.
I have seen this entire series like six, seven or eight times over
again. Oh, that says a lot about the series. Yeah, it is
my favorite. Are they standalone? Like, could you just.
Yes. Or do you need to. Okay, they're all standalone.
You kind of want to watch the first episode just to get the
dynamic of how Inspector Morse
met Sergeant Lewis. Just to kind of set up things.
But you can watch any episode after that. Doesn't really matter. It does build,
though. Like, their relationship has ups and
downs where they don't get along and then
they get along really well and then some shit goes down. So you're not
gonna be confused. It's just
a detective story, but everybody who's anybody
is in it. Lots of great. If you like British tv, you'll see all
the faces you recognize showing up in there. Yeah.
Awesome. You threw me a curveball. I didn't think you were doing this. Oh,
man, I. I had a day to watch
movies and I was just having a crappy day, so I just was like,
no, I'm gonna watch Inspector Morris all day. And I did just
that. And Lietta is a bigger fan of the sequel
series Inspector Lewis, where the same
actor who plays the sergeant, he's all grown up and has
his own. He steps into the role as the main detective
of the show. And it's a great show, too. The prequel
series is all right. I don't hate it or anything. It doesn't quite work for
me. It's set in the 60s and has a very,
very different actor playing young
Morse, which is fine. They replaced him, but they went in a different direction.
Okay. And they definitely made him just almost a
different character, but they set up all the. The building blocks
of who he become, you know, as he gets more and more bitter and curmudgeonly.
I don't know what that's like. Same. I'm not
well on that road myself. Well,
that's cool. That's cool. But, man, I think we did it.
I think we did, too. Another episode complete, folks.
Thank you for listening, Mark. Thank you for hanging out
once again. It was beyond awesome. Oh,
man, we will be definitely back talking about something.
We've barely scratched the surface of our list. So Spice World.
Stay tuned for Spice World. I've still never seen that.
Okay, we need to stop talking and then you go watch it and I'll wait
right here. Spice up your life, everybody,
and slam. Your body down and wind it all around.
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