WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:07.519 practical ways. 4 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:16.559 Well, welcome back to another platinum episode of The Bible Guys. 5 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:20.600 We have Wesley Woods in the studio with us today 6 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:23.480 and I'm Jeff Forster on one half of the regular 7 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:26.679 Bible Guys. But we elevated our game this week by 8 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:29.359 having you join us. Chris Sarbas out of the country 9 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:35.200 doing some really great ministry and anti human trafficking ministry 10 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:38.439 down in the Dominican Republic called Transform One. So we 11 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:41.840 have you with us today and this is such a 12 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:44.920 good one because today it is one of my favorite segments. 13 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:48.200 We have a segment called stump the pastor Yeah. These 14 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:52.520 are fun because our listeners sometimes will send in questions 15 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:56.679 and you can do that on info at Thebibleguys dot com. 16 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:59.479 You can send in questions through YouTube or any other 17 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:02.719 platform that you're watching on that lets you leave comments, 18 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:05.480 and Desiree kind of goes through those and then she 19 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:07.200 gives us the ones she thinks we can't answer. 20 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:07.519 Yeah. 21 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:11.519 So yes, so today we have one. We have one 22 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:15.439 from Alexandra p so Hi. Alexandra yea, so glad that 23 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:16.959 you sent this in. And she said, and this is 24 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:20.159 a great question, she said, why are there so many 25 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:23.239 denominations if we all follow the same Bible. 26 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:25.239 Yeah, that's a good question, good one, So. 27 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:28.200 Good luck with that. I'm gonna go ahead, and we've 28 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:30.959 only been asking this question for let me see carry 29 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:31.959 the two thousand years. 30 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:36.359 Yes, I think at a very I'm going to speak 31 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:40.000 from a very high level. I think what happens typically 32 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:45.319 we have God's word, we have the Bible. Most Christian 33 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:50.239 denominations believe the entire Bible. But what happens, I think 34 00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:56.200 sometimes is different parties will they will read a certain 35 00:01:56.319 --> 00:02:02.799 verse in place greater emphasis on one particular verse over another, 36 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:05.760 and then you kind of split off from there. And 37 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:08.080 again I'm speaking at a very very high level, and 38 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:11.280 we know certain things that happened through history and why 39 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:14.439 splits took place. But at a high level, I think 40 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:17.199 you read a verse and it talks about something like, oh, yeah, 41 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:19.639 this is a core tenet of the faith. I'm gonna 42 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:22.639 surround my belief system around that thing. 43 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:27.439 Yeah there, ye, So there's several core elements to this one. Historically, 44 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:32.919 some denominations have a strong belief in the inerrancy of 45 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:36.639 scripture and the authority of scripture. Everything begins and ends 46 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:40.360 with God's perfect word. And God's words are perfect, especially 47 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:44.960 in the original autographs, the original manuscripts. God gave it 48 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:47.599 to us perfectly exactly what He wanted us to know, 49 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:50.680 and so then it has absolute authority over the Christian Right. 50 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:53.800 This isn't something that we just kind of take as advice, 51 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:58.120 but rather this is what God has said is true. Now, 52 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:03.000 there's a large segment of Christianity that believes that that 53 00:03:03.639 --> 00:03:06.199 solo scripture is what it mean right, the Bible is 54 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:11.280 is is the final authority. There are other Christian denominations 55 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:16.280 that would say the Bible plus religious tradition, what does 56 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:19.639 the church say, what is the pope or the archbishop 57 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:23.319 or whatever, what does this leader say, and what is 58 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:28.159 it has been our tradition. So for us, for you 59 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.439 and me, for the church that we lead, we would 60 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:35.360 say church tradition is second to scripture. Scripture is as 61 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:38.240 long as church tradition aligns with scripture, then okay. But 62 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:42.479 we never have anything extra outside of what the Bible says. 63 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:47.240 And then why do we have different denominations even within 64 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:49.800 groups of Christians that believe that idea of that scripture, 65 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:53.520 and it's usually an interpretation things. It's going to be 66 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:57.680 how they read a sentence or how they read a word, 67 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:01.960 and how they would cross reference things. So I would say, 68 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:06.080 and I always encourage people to say, probably ninety percent 69 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:08.800 of your faith beliefs should be based on the clearly 70 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:11.120 presented words on the page. 71 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:11.960 Right. 72 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:15.080 The Bible is its own best commentary. It's going to 73 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.399 explain it. So and then there is the necessary need 74 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:21.360 to cross reference, to be able to expand on an idea, 75 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:24.879 to continue to learn more and more and more about 76 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:27.600 an idea. Where God says, you know, in the Old Testament, 77 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:29.480 an eye for an eye, a tooth for tooth, right, 78 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:34.399 So there should be a just consequence for bad behaviors, 79 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:39.319 especially criminal behaviors. But then later Jesus says, you've heard 80 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:40.839 it said, an eye for an eye, tooth for tooth, 81 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:44.160 But I say right. And then he says, on a 82 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:48.120 personal level, forgive one another, love one another right, And 83 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:53.879 so Jesus then expands this idea. So from a government standpoint, 84 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:57.800 government should always be working for justice individuals. Jesus calls 85 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:02.160 us always to forgiveness the Bible's its own best commentary. 86 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:04.839 The one part of the Bible explain the other part 87 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:07.240 of the Bible. Jesus doesn't go against the Bible. Jesus 88 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:10.360 just explains the Bible, right, he explains the rest of 89 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:13.120 words and so theologically. Then there are a lot of 90 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:15.800 those issues that you can read it one way and 91 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:17.480 when you only read it that way, but you don't 92 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:19.680 take it in the context of all the other times 93 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:21.680 that mentions it. Yeah, well, then that's where we start 94 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:23.920 to get some denominational. 95 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:26.560 Ang When I was super young and reading the Bible, 96 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:30.720 I remember a pastor talking about never take a passage 97 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:33.040 as a standalone. Oh right, you want to look at 98 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:36.439 it in reference to the chapter, in relation to the 99 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:39.399 book and the history around that book. So you just 100 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:42.519 never you can take a snapshot of anything and try 101 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:44.920 to make it be whatever you want it. Yeah. 102 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:47.040 There's over thirty thousand verses in the Bible and covers 103 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:49.160 almost every facet in human life. You can make the 104 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:51.079 Bible saynything you want to say. Well, I like to 105 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:53.360 tell that joke sometimes that one guy, he didn't know 106 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:55.120 much about the Bible and he's like, God, I just 107 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:57.759 need you to tell me. Tell me what I should do, 108 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:00.759 and whatever I read first is what I'm gonna do 109 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:02.680 as a Bible and says, and Judas went out and 110 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:07.079 hanged himself, and he slammed the Bible. Oh no, no, now, 111 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:08.759 now God show me he opened it up in the 112 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:12.759 next phrases, go and do likewise. So if you take 113 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:16.680 sentences just a snapshot, yeah, what happens is it's easy 114 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:18.800 to take them out of context. So we have to 115 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:22.519 read scripture in context, asking what is this being said 116 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:26.399 to the original reader, the original listener, and how does 117 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:28.279 it apply in my life? And then what is the 118 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:33.720 truth God is saying that can be applied all the time. 119 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:35.959 So is there a command to obey? Is there a 120 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:39.240 promise to claim? Is there a sindo avoid right? Those 121 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:43.279 kinds of things, So we would ask those, But then ultimately, 122 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:46.680 when it comes down to the big picture, for a 123 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:52.560 biblically centered Christian, whether regardless of the denomination they come from, 124 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:56.639 usually it's it's peripheral issues. It's secondary issues that we 125 00:06:56.720 --> 00:07:01.519 disagree about, right, it's not court is the core issues 126 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:05.240 are Jesus Christ is the virgin born son of God. 127 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:10.360 He lived a sinless life. He taught us the best 128 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:12.959 way to live. He paid the price for our sin 129 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:17.319 with his blood on the cross. He took the punishment 130 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:19.959 for our sin and his body on the cross. He 131 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:23.639 was buried for three days and rose again. He ascended 132 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:26.560 back to heaven after giving us the commission to go 133 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:29.120 and tell everybody the gospel, the good news. They can 134 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:31.920 have relationship with Jesus. He taught us at salvation is 135 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:35.519 by grace through faith, not by works. And someday he's 136 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:39.040 going to come back and judge us. Right, We're going 137 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:44.199 almost all Christians believe, you know, Biblical Christians believe those things. Yes, 138 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:47.000 And then it's going to be the peripheral edges where 139 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:55.839 we disagree music styles, preferred translations, certain behaviors or worship 140 00:07:57.439 --> 00:07:59.519 rituals and things like that. That's a lot of it, 141 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:04.279 or sometimes core doctrinal things with regard to application of 142 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:07.560 certain doctrines. So then Augustine back in the six hundred 143 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:15.759 said he had a really great statement. He said, with 144 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:20.680 with regard to non essentials, we have liberty. With essentials, 145 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:23.879 we must have unity. But in all things we must 146 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:26.680 show charity. And back then charity would have meant love, love. 147 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:29.279 And so when it comes to those things, like I 148 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:31.639 mentioned the things virgin born, son of God, salvation by 149 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:35.639 grace through faith, you know, death, burial, resurrection, those kinds 150 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:38.679 of things. Those are essentials, right, Like you're not a 151 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:41.399 Christian if you don't believe those those are essentials. We 152 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:43.799 have to have basics, right, We have to have unity 153 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:46.960 on those things, or then you're just religious but not 154 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:51.440 a Christian. But on the non essential things like music 155 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:54.159 styles and those kinds of things, we have liberty. So 156 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:57.000 then we can give liberty but to everybody. But in 157 00:08:57.080 --> 00:09:00.720 all things we show love to one another. There and 158 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:03.480 I was with I'll give this one last statement because 159 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:05.679 I think we have the time for it. I was 160 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:08.399 with a with the Pope of the Coptic Church. His 161 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:11.000 name is Pope Tauadro's the second we were doing some 162 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:14.159 work in Egypt, and he had leveraged some of his 163 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:20.879 influence to protect some non Coptic Christians in Egypt, and 164 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:23.960 so I thanked him for it. And we had spoken 165 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:26.759 for hours. I'd met with him two different times, so 166 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:29.279 probably an hour and a half of talking with him 167 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:32.919 only through a translator from English to Arabic. And then 168 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:34.559 I thanked him for this, and he was shaking my 169 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:37.039 hand as we're going to leave, and he stepped in 170 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:39.480 and in crystal clear English, I'd forgotten that he graduated from 171 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:43.399 or attended one of the universities in London or in England, 172 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:46.600 you know. But in chrystal clear English, he said, the 173 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.399 names on our church signs only serve to tell other 174 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:54.000 Christians why we disagree with each other. Wow, but the 175 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:58.360 blood of our martyrs is mingled. And he said it 176 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:01.360 was during the Isis times. And he said, when Isis 177 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:03.879 goes to cut a man's head, he doesn't ask him 178 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:06.720 are you Coptic or Baptist? He asks what about Jesus? 179 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:09.039 And then he cuts his head. And he said, so, 180 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:11.720 anybody who's willing to die for Jesus, I'm willing to 181 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:14.200 try to protect for Jesus. And there's something about that 182 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:16.799 that phrase, though, that the names on our church signs 183 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:19.000 only tell other Christians why we disagree. Lost people don't 184 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:21.000 know the difference between a Baptist and a Pentecostal. They 185 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:21.320 don't know. 186 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:24.159 And lost people, to be completely honest, don't. 187 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:24.799 Care, No, they don't. 188 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:28.320 They just want these for their ailment. That's all they're 189 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:29.159 looking for, that's right. 190 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:32.279 So instead of getting obsessed about the peripheral issues and 191 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:34.799 making those the primary issues. Right, we have to keep 192 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:37.000 the main thing the main thing. Jesus is the virgin 193 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:38.679 born son of God, who lived a sinless life. He 194 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:41.279 paid the price on the cross, he rose again, salvations 195 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:43.240 by grace through faith, and we were all given account 196 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:47.919 to God someday. Those are the really the major cored doctrines. 197 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:50.960 The rest are the things that we do to kind 198 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:54.080 of adjust between a Presbyterian and a Methodist. And that's 199 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.759 just those things will sort it out. This is the 200 00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:02.039 challenge of theology, theos theologies two words ology. The study 201 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:04.799 of theos is God, so it's the study of God. 202 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:11.039 There is no perfect theology on this planet because theology 203 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:13.759 is a man's attempt to understand God, and none of 204 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:17.559 us have complete understanding of the incomprehensible it's not possible. 205 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:21.080 So then that means that even though people have very 206 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:23.600 strong opinions are willing to fight and quit fellowshiping with 207 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:27.200 each other over certain things, nobody has perfect theology. We're 208 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:29.519 going to get to heaven and every single theologian on 209 00:11:29.559 --> 00:11:31.679 the planet will stand before God, and God's gonna say 210 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:33.360 you are right here here and here, and you were 211 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:35.360 way off on this one. In this one, right, that's 212 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:38.080 what's going to happen. So I think theologians and Christians 213 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:40.120 in general we need to be humble about what we 214 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:43.759 don't entirely understand and open to discussing things as long 215 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.720 as we believe Jesus is the only way salvations by 216 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:47.360 grace through faith. 217 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:47.840 Yeah. 218 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:50.799 Yeah, yeah, that was good. That was a good one, Alexander. 219 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:52.679 That almost took over the whole episode. 220 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:54.960 Yeah, that was good. Yeah. Yeah. Like you said, this 221 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:58.679 is something that has been discussed for hundreds and thousands 222 00:11:58.720 --> 00:11:59.159 of years. 223 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:02.639 Yeah, yeah, and Jesus set the example on these things, which, 224 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:04.919 by the way, that's what we're talking about today. In 225 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:08.519 John chapter thirteen, we're going to read John thirteen one 226 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:12.519 through seventeen. He says, before the passover celebration, Jesus knew 227 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:15.399 that his hour had come to leave this world and 228 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:18.080 returned to his father. He had loved his disciples during 229 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:19.799 his ministry on earth, and now he loved them to 230 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:22.320 the very end. It was time for supper, and the 231 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:25.519 devil had already prompted Judas, son of Simon Is Scariot, 232 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:28.200 to betray Jesus and Jesus knew that the Father had 233 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:30.919 given him authority over everything, that he'd come from God 234 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:32.639 and would return to God. So he got up from 235 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:35.320 the table, took off his robe, wrapped the towel around 236 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:37.919 his waist, and poured water into a basin. Then he 237 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:40.600 began to wash the disciples feet, drying them with the 238 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:43.600 towel he had round him. When Jesus came to Simon Peter, 239 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:45.919 Peter said to him, Lord, are you going to wash 240 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:49.240 my feet? Jesus replied, you don't understand what I'm doing, 241 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:50.080 but someday you will. 242 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:50.639 No. 243 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.840 Peter protested, you will not ever wash my feet, Jesus applied. 244 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:58.200 Unless I wash you, you won't belong to me. Simon 245 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:00.720 Peter exclaimed, Then wash my hands head as well, Lord, 246 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:04.320 not just my feet, Jesus replied, person who has bathed 247 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:06.120 all over does not need to wash except for the 248 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:08.879 feet to be entirely clean. And you disciples are clean, 249 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:11.279 but not all of you. For Jesus knew who would 250 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:13.799 betray him. That is what he meant when he said, 251 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:17.360 not all of you are clean. After washing their feet, 252 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:19.639 he put on his robe again and sat down and asked, 253 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:22.080 do you understand what I was doing. You call me 254 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:24.080 teacher and Lord, and you were right, because that's what 255 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.799 I am. And since I your lord and teacher, have 256 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:29.200 washed your feet, you ought to wash each other's feet. 257 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:31.720 I have given you an example to follow. Do as 258 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:34.679 I've done to you. I tell you the truth. Slaves 259 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:36.759 are not greater than their master, nor is the messenger 260 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:39.080 more important than the one who sends the message. Now 261 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:41.440 that you know these things, God will bless you for 262 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:43.120 doing them. 263 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:44.080 Yeah, that's a good pass. 264 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:48.279 There you go. I well, talking about the traditions, those 265 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:51.039 peripheral things. There are churches that still do foot washing. 266 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:54.080 Yeah right, yeah, Yeah, anyways, go ahead. This is a 267 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:58.039 side note, Jeff. But the fact where I think this 268 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:00.799 is still in verse one. It says he loved his 269 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:05.759 disciples during his ministry on earth, and now he loved 270 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:08.720 them to the very end. Yeah. How great is that? 271 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.639 I love that. In terms of the person I'm thinking of, 272 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:16.399 there's probably someone who stumbled across this podcast. They're listening, 273 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:20.519 their their life is far from God right now, they're 274 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:23.799 trying to figure things out and just the hope of 275 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:27.879 knowing that Christ loves me to the end. Yeah, there's 276 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:30.360 nothing that you can do that would make him stop 277 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:33.440 loving you. Now, he may not like your activities or 278 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:36.159 what you do, but he loves you. And I just 279 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:39.679 think that gives tremendous hope that Christ loves us to 280 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:41.879 the end. Yeah. I just think that's awesome. 281 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:43.799 He even loved it. So it says he loved all 282 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:45.279 his disciples in this statement. 283 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:45.799 Yeah. 284 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:47.879 After that, it says he knows who the one was 285 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:48.840 that was going to betray him. 286 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:50.679 Yeah, so even loved Judas. 287 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.320 Even Judas was included. Yeah, yeah, which, which is really amazing. 288 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:55.360 That's awesome. 289 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:57.480 So you know, I love the life application study Bible. 290 00:14:57.519 --> 00:14:59.600 I'm always highlighting that one, and now they don't pay 291 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:02.039 us to say that. I just think everybody needs a 292 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:04.399 good study Bible because you can't always have a preacher 293 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:08.360 with you, and I don't always advise searching the meaning 294 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:11.399 of a thing on the internet. You'll get anything if 295 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:14.720 you're not if you're not a substantial Biblical Bible student already, 296 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:18.240 if you already have deep understanding, it's hard to filter 297 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:20.440 what's true and what's not true on the internet. But 298 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:26.279 if you have a deeply evangelical, theologically centered study Bible, 299 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:29.159 you can get so much more from something that's trusted, 300 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:33.240 rather than just randomly entrusting your belief to an algorithm. 301 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:34.000 Right. 302 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:38.279 So anyways, it says here that there's a note for 303 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:41.039 this passage, and it says Jesus was the model servant, 304 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:44.600 and he showed his servant attitude to his disciples. Washing 305 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:47.200 guest's feet was a job for a household servant to 306 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:50.080 carry out when guests arrived. And the reason was they 307 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:54.279 wore sandals, and they walked so much, and you know, 308 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:57.200 the exhaust from the donkeys and the goats and the 309 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:00.720 and the the oxen walking down the street was a 310 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:03.480 little gross. So you can imagine how dirty their feet 311 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:07.559 would be just walking everywhere and open toad, sandals, all 312 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:09.320 those things. And so when you'd come into a home 313 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:13.399 it was a sign of honor to wash your guest's feet. 314 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:16.200 But usually it was the lowest servant that had that 315 00:16:16.279 --> 00:16:19.960 job of washing everybody's gross feet. Right, But Jesus chooses 316 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:22.679 to do this, And so Jesus wrapped a towel around 317 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.480 his waist, as the lowliest slave would do, and washed 318 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:28.879 and dried his disciples feet. Even he God in the flesh, 319 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:33.000 serves so willingly we his followers must also be servants 320 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:36.480 willing to serve in any way that glorifies God and 321 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:39.399 ask what would that kind of service mean in your home, 322 00:16:39.519 --> 00:16:41.799 or your workplace or your ministry. Are you willing to 323 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:44.799 follow Jesus example as serving who can you serve? Today? 324 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:48.759 Jesus blesses those who not only agree the humble services 325 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:51.360 Christ's way, but also follow through and do it. Isn't 326 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:54.399 that great? So powerful? Because that's the point. Jesus isn't 327 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:56.519 saying you need to wash people's feet. Jesus is saying 328 00:16:57.399 --> 00:16:59.279 culturally and socially, you need to be willing to take 329 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:03.159 the lowest position to serve the people that need to 330 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:03.919 be served. 331 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:08.359 Which is kind of counterintuitive to how society operates. Oh yeah, 332 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:11.519 society operates by me first. I'm at the front of 333 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:14.000 the line. I'm the boss. You know, you do what 334 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:17.759 I say. No, this is very counterintuitive to how most 335 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:21.039 people would think and how most people would operate. Yep, 336 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:22.079 yeah yeah. 337 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:25.359 So he he's down on his knees, he's washing their feet, 338 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:28.319 and Peter goes, oh no, no, no, no, yeah, Jesus, 339 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:31.039 you cannot because Peter's recognizing you can't be a slave 340 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:31.400 to me. 341 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:33.839 But I love how Peter is always the one. 342 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:37.559 Yeah, he's always well he's the oldest. Yeah, so that's 343 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:39.039 part of it. You just kind of step into the 344 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:42.559 role when you know. But he is very impetuous. Yeah, 345 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:44.279 and I think he's a little bit of I think 346 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:47.440 he's very emotional, right, so he gets he gets really 347 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:50.559 aggressive sometimes. Yeah, And in this one he jumps like, 348 00:17:50.599 --> 00:17:53.640 go Jesus, you can't wash my feet. Yeah, and Jesus says, 349 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:55.359 you don't understand what I'm doing, but someday you will. 350 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:59.599 Yeah. But imagine telling Jesus what he can and can't 351 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:02.359 you do. That's what's just kind of funny to me. Well, Jesus, 352 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:03.000 you can't do that. 353 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:05.839 So there's a chance Peter was older than Jesus. It's 354 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:08.000 very likely that Peter was older than Jesus, which is 355 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:11.039 kind of a funny funny thing. But yeah, so he's like, 356 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:12.680 oh no, well, then if you're going to wash my feet, 357 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:15.240 wash my head, wash my hands, wash my whole body. Yeah, 358 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:19.319 And what what Jesus is trying to say is, listen, 359 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:22.759 you've already been washed, You've already been made clean spiritually. 360 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:25.920 You don't need that, but you need others. You need 361 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:29.559 servants to help you be completely clean, right, particularly even 362 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:31.960 on a physical standpoint here, that's what he's trying to do. 363 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:34.200 Peter's like, nope, I'm not gonna let you wash my 364 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:36.039 He says, if I don't wash your hand or your feet, 365 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:39.480 then you know you're gonna have some trouble there. So 366 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:42.920 he he he then comes and says, listen, you guys 367 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:47.000 call me teacher, and I get that, but listen, the 368 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:50.079 servant isn't greater than his master. If I'm willing to 369 00:18:50.119 --> 00:18:53.160 do this, you should do that. So it's a little 370 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:55.200 confusing to us when he says, since I your lord 371 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:57.880 tears wash your feet, you also ought to wash each 372 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:01.559 other's feet. It's it's a little confusing when he says 373 00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:04.279 slaves aren't greater than their master. All he's saying is, listen, 374 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:07.160 if the boss is willing to step down and do this, yeah, 375 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:09.680 then everybody should be willing to do this. That's what 376 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:10.880 he's saying. And it's hard. 377 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:14.440 Which was Jesus posture all the time, you know, even 378 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:16.960 when he rode in on a donkey. You know, if 379 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:19.839 I was Jesus, I would have rolled in on a stallion, 380 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:25.960 you know, with you know, yeah, trumpets. But that was 381 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:29.680 his posture twenty four to seven. Yeah, three sixty five, yeah, yeah, 382 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:32.440 so oh yeah, go ahead. Well, the only thing I 383 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:34.759 was going to say with that verse fourteen, And since 384 00:19:35.119 --> 00:19:37.640 you kind of rif that, I have given you an 385 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:40.319 example to follow do as I have done to you. 386 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:46.000 What's one practical way that the listeners could wash someone's feet? 387 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:48.759 So again, we're not talking about physically going and getting 388 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:52.000 a basin and washing someone's feet, but how could someone 389 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:56.400 practically humble themselves, yeah, and do what Jesus is saying 390 00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:56.680 to do? 391 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:03.160 You know, from my wife and I practically we have 392 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:10.240 been hosting people at our home and fixing a meal 393 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:13.319 for them and spending a lot of money on those 394 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:16.759 meals or expensive meals, and saying, you know, taking half 395 00:20:16.759 --> 00:20:19.720 a day prepping for them, and then just everybody's sitting 396 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:21.759 at the table. We can fit ten people at our 397 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:24.400 dining room table. And to just say, listen, there's no 398 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:28.519 agenda other than to say thank you. And it's all stakeholders. 399 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:31.759 It's all people who are really helping carry the load 400 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:34.720 and the ministry that I'm serving in. And you know, 401 00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:38.759