Grit

Guest: Bill Magnuson, CEO and co-founder of Braze

The deployment of smartphones around the world was more impactful than any other technology to date, says Braze CEO Bill Magnuson — and that has big implications for emerging fields like generative AI. “If we get to the point where they [LLMs] really can be useful, human-like companions ... they will be usable by everyone that has smartphone technology.” In other words, the question is not business opportunity or scale: It’s capability.

In this episode, Bill and Joubin discuss earnings days, Aaron Levie, MIT, customer churn, shower thoughts, technical co-founders, lacking context, AGI, “hands on keyboard,” the T-Mobile G1, app marketing, the 2008 financial crisis, Bob Iger, World War II, Peter Reinhardt, Watershed, and international offices.

Chapters:
  • (00:51) - Morning people
  • (05:09) - What Braze does
  • (06:59) - From CTO to CEO
  • (08:17) - Waking up and commuting
  • (10:49) - Leading vs. engineering
  • (12:35) - Cognizant of believability
  • (19:52) - LLMs and the human brain
  • (25:46) - The AI ceiling
  • (28:43) - The historic deployment of smartphones
  • (37:58) - The benefits of youth
  • (40:18) - Taking the leap
  • (43:35) - Read more sci-fi
  • (46:38) - Survivor bias
  • (48:55) - Big risks at scale
  • (52:30) - Who Braze is hiring around the world
  • (55:32) - What “grit” means to Bill

Links:

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This episode was edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm

What is Grit?

Grit explores what it takes to create, build, and scale world-class organizations. It features weekly episodes highlighting the leaders who are pushing their companies to make a difference. This series is hosted by Joubin Mirzadegan, go to market operating partner at Kleiner Perkins, a venture capital firm investing in history-making founders.