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She who's seeking growth.

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She who is seeking answers.

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Where's the silver lining.

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Inside a secret room?

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How do we find the way, and
not get lost in forests?

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How do we sweep away the cobwebs?

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Oh, with our witch's broom.

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Hello.

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Oh, you mystics and seekers.

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I am your host, Meena Melissa Leigh, and
this is the She Who Is Seeking podcast.

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Today She Who Is Seeking Growth, through
parables and myths and fairy tales.

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Since we're a few episodes in, I thought
I'd remind us of all the incredible

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potential we have to learn and grow.

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From a young age, we're able to learn from
parables, myths, fairytales and stories.

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But when we grow a bit older, we're
able to learn from archetypes,

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self-reflection and realizations
made while we're in community.

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Many cultures stress the importance
of storytelling and community.

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We have touches of that in our
culture,  but I think it's a very

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important part of the human experience.

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And I think we need more of it.

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I believe that many of the themes
are universal, and what we do

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is we all learn from each other.

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The place I share from is
embodied in my experience.

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And it's woven with
challenges and triumphs.

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I see that the lessons that I glean
from these trials and tribulations

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are actually the treasures of my life.

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Nothing lasts forever.

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In this game of life, we get a mission.

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We complete the work.

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We get the next mission.

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We complete the work.

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However, I want us to slow
down and appreciate what we

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receive when we complete the
challenges that life gives us.

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In a way where we're present
and paying attention.

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We are learning deep and universal
life lessons all the time.

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And I can really sense that many of
us are listening to the same whispers

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and allowing the same downloads
and information and I've noticed

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this thing and I bet you have too.

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When someone is telling you their
personal story,and you're listening,

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and you're like, oh my God, me too!

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Even if you don't say it out
loud, you're thinking it.

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It's very easy to see
ourselves in that situation.

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And we draw parallels, even if we're
trying to have on our best listener

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hat and listen with our full attention.

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It's really easy to think.

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Yeah.

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Same.

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And not every story we
share is full of hardship.

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And yet this place when you're
pressed up against the flames

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really quickens the transformation.

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It would be great if we could
just learn and have these lessons

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and easy breezy situations.

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But most of the time, that's not where
the real lessons of growth stem from.

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The best advice I have  on the
good times is to appreciate them.

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Welcome them with open
arms eagerly and often.

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Enjoy the flow side of the ebb and flow.

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And I'm all for gratitude.

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Enjoy every minute of the good times.

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Relax into them with your whole heart.

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And take snapshots for your memor
just to look at when times are tough

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and filled with more challenge.

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Because that time will come.

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There's no expansion
without the contraction.

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So when the times are an ebb, we
can look for our lessons and we

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can ask for them to be gentle.

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We can learn from them in a way
that is deep and life-transforming.

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However it requires us to pay
attention to what we are experiencing.

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And often it requires surrender.

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That's the tough thing for a lot of us.

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It requires trust and vulnerability.

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Which can feel like some major bullshit.

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Sometimes it seems that there's
more discord than peace.

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More opposition than teamwork.

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And in this world that has chaos,
it's important to have community.

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Like-minded ,maybe.

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But the more important piece
is that you have a safe space.

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The community which I've built and
continue to build is a safe space.

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It's supportive.

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It honors my struggles and wins.

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My gifts and shortcomings.

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It's a place that allows me to branch
out and unfold, mature and blossom.

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And my life wasn't always this way.

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It's been years of cultivating
the right relationships.

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And bringing to a close the
ones that sucked more energy

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than I was willing to give.

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My experience is we
help this process along.

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With every decision we make,
whether intentionally or not.

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It draws the line for us in the sand.

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And strengthens the boundaries
around what is or isn't okay with us.

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Sometimes we may have conflicted feelings.

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About the people who just can't stay
near the heat "that is your flame".

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There are the people who just
can't stay in your inner circle.

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We have memories and ties that
are not so easily dismissed.

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And so it's challenging
to let go of those.

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Connections on both ends really.

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And that's okay.

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Growth can be uncomfortable.

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And loss can be uncomfortable too.

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But if you're making way for those
who see you for who you truly are, and

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love you for that special spark that
you bring without needing to dim your

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light, to feel okay with themselves.

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Then you can really grow in a most
amazing version of yourself, and so

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can they, if they're so inclined.

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Other times the growth gleaned from
experience has nothing to do with

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any forces outside of yourself.

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It may be more about stepping into
the greatest version of yourself.

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And the only person in your way, is you.

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And oh, how many times I've had both
those scenarios be the case with me.

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Too many to count.

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What about you?

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Do you see yourself on the precipice
of the next great version of yourself?

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I can feel it.

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I think you are.

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I am too.

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So what is standing in our way?

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What's that old BS that you're
ready to kick to the curb.

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And who is waiting to
come out of the flames.

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We all have hard things happen.

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And there's no way to skip it forever.

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We may get a free pass sometimes,but
then it's time to pay the Piper.

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So that is part of why I'm
sharing things in this way.

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We all have our own experiences.

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And sometimes it's easy to
just see them as shitty.

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Best case you think- I'm glad
that's done, and you move on.

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However, if we can learn to sit in
the discomfort and ask ourselves what

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is transforming for me right now...

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then we can see the gift of it.

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And take it with us like a medallion.

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But sometimes we just can't.

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It's too much.

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We're in physical,
emotional, or mental pain.

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That is so great.

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That it's just impossible to see through.

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So that's why I am here.

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And I will ask you or
remind you to ask yourself.

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What is this gift?

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I'm that annoying friend in your ear.

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Who can always see the silver lining.

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And maybe you always see it too.

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But if you don't.

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I can help you make the connections.

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The responsibility of a life well lived.

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And a journey well-traveled
contains multitudes.

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As do we.

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And sometimes it's very complicated.

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And I may not know the exact details
of what's happening for you, but

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I know the feel of what happened.

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The archetypal imprint of the thing.

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Just like how so many great stories
can be overlaid onto Joseph Campbell's

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blueprint of the Hero's Journey.

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It's hard to find an epic tale that
doesn't link up with that in some way.

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And that is because there is
these deep universal truths.

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Universal lessons, that we all go
through at one point or another.

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It doesn't make us any less
unique or less individual.

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You're a human, having a human experience.

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You can have the exact same
experience as a hundred other people.

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But your takeaway can be the
catalyst for your growth.

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The thing that makes you realize
that you're a hundred times

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stronger than you thought.

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It's something that could
even change your life.

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Sometimes we're so eager to
get through the whole affair.

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That we may miss the
magnitude of the lesson.

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The diamond that was created
from the compression of our

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life collapsing in, on itself.

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Or less dramatically, the bullshit
that we deal with on the daily.

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And why am I so sure of this?

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Well, It's trust.

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I know that I'm supposed
to be doing this right now.

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And so here we are.

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And the skills that I
bring to this journey.

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Have been long in the making.

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And  a lot of them have come from
exactly what I'm talking about that

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pain and just truly deep learning.

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And I didn't see it unfolding
in quite this manner, but...

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Spirit tells me to do things and I listen.

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And this next bit is something that
you may or may not know about me.

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People who know me in real life,
often comment to me about how

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positive and optimistic I am.

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And how patient.

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And how resilient.

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And all of those things are true.

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Even when it was in what my mother
referred to as the long period

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of me being tragically, Gothic, I
still had this undimmable spark.

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And my uncle told me one time that
he saw me as a burning flower.

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And that undimmable spark is
probably attributed to the

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fact that I'm very contrary.

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And I hate to be defeated.

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And I'm not  fond of wasting my time.

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Or doing pointless things.

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So I'm willing to look harder.

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And I'm even willing to look
in the deepest and darkest

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and most terrifying places.

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To find something to make
the whole thing worth it.

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I'm just not willing to leave
without some gem or nugget.

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I stay in the discomfort
for however long it takes.

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It's not that I like it.

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I'm not immune.

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To the potentially smothering heaviness
of it, and feeling all of it, but I'm

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just not going to leave without my lesson.

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My wisdom.

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My triumph.

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Or my treasure.

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I want to share the easy and challenging
bits, both with supreme honesty.

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I believe going deep.

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And sharing deep is how you make
the connections for yourself.

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Or at the very least  it will be
that thing that we all like to do

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when we're out for a walk,  and
somebody has their curtains open...

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and we all look.

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We all want to know what it's like
inside places that we can't see into.

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So when I share these experiences
here with you, I don't shy away

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from the tough or difficult bits.

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And I don't try to gloss over them.

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And make it seem as though
I  win every battle.

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And come out on top.

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With little bits of wisdom to share.

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It's actually usually
very murky and mucky.

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But,  I know that you go there too.

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Maybe you have the gift of seeing.

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The gifts yourself.

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And you're just here together on this
journey because you like being here.

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But if you need help  in seeing
the silver lining when you're in

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the middle of the stickiness or
anywhere in between,  it's okay.

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If you're here and listening,
because you just don't want to

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be alone right now, it's okay.

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Or if you're stalling, because you
have something that you don't want

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to start and you're procrastinating.

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It's also okay, but maybe
you go and do it after.

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And if you're a lawyer and you just
like to be that person who looks in the

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medicine cabinet, when you're at a party.

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Confession, that is me, I do that.

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..Then this is a great place for
that, because this is sort of like the

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medicine cabinet of my human experience.

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But, regardless of the
reason why you're listening.

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I'm so glad that you're here.

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And I am going to continue to try to
share whatever I can in a way that is

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down to earth and connects to something
that makes sense to you, even if it is

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a little bit circuitous and amorphous.

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Which is kind of my favorite way
to describe everything recently.

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I'm doing this thing, and I
hope that you're receiving the

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gift that you need from it.

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The way that I see energy interacting with
the world in the clearest way is to ground

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it into the physical or into the tangible.

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And our experiences are tangible.

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They carry the emotions
and reactions forward.

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Everything is energy.

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So what would be more charged
then the huge events in our life.

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Our voice is also tangible.

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We interact with the voice.

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Using our sense of hearing
and it hits the mind.

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Or the heart.

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Or even the stomach.

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And that words could go straight
to a lot of places in our body.

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And words, echo.

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With the power of our response.

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It's this chemical
reaction of our hormones.

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And we are in it and the
somatic experience of our

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bodies as we feel into it.

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And  it really tends to get our attention.

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They transfer our consciousness
from the inner dreamworld,  to

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the communal intermingling of the
energy waves that we call "life".

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When we are so deep in the moment and
navigating the complicated situations in

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our lives, it makes perfect sense that
we don't always see the silver lining.

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But,  there's a funny
thing about us humans.

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When we connect with one another and
share our stories in a way that is

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open to flow and to giving, when we're
listening with an open mind and heart.

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Then we are in the energy of receiving.

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And in that space, that's where
we make connections for ourselves.

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And for our own personal experiences.

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And we weave them together, and
we allow them to fall into place.

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When we're open, it's impossible
not to learn, and evolve.

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Most stagnation in our growth
tends to come from trying to

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fold in,and be self-protective.

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Sometimes this protective
stance is warranted.

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And sometimes it merely serves
to block fresh ideas and

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perspectives from moving in.

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When we clench, nothing
can come in or go out.

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There's no flow, no
movement, no interchange.

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And that is often where pain and
discomfort and dis-ease come in.

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But this is about trusting and
relaxing into the discomfort.

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Settling into a safe surrender, and
allowing yourself to be receptive.

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And it's easier said than done, I know.

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But that's the goal,and this is
about progress, not perfection.

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We can still move forward in our growth
from a place that feels safer to us.

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And we're still in charge
of her own experiences.

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We're learning and growing
any time we're open to it.

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So if some of this background, some of
this blueprint for why sometimes I share

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in this way, with this podcast, on the
surface just seems to be about me and

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my own experience,  it isn't always.

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Really sometimes.

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It's more,  in fact.

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Like a parable from this deep collective.

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And, so why didn't I just say
that in the first episode that

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I would be sharing in this way?

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Well, I felt as though you would know.

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And you would make the
connections yourself.

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Because you're a smarty who
navigates the world intuitively.

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And you took the lessons
you needed with you.

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And I could feel it.

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And it was the feedback that I was
getting from those of you who let

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me know how some of the episodes
have affected you and helped you.

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But it also was me inviting you into
my world, just by having you jump in.

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I just started showing you around before
even told you that you were on a tour.

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But I knew you knew.

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And this is your confirmation.

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I am she who is seeking.

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And I think you're seeking too.

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My guess is we're going to
come out of this as total

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badassess,doing this together.

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And I'm so happy that you were
here for this kind of weird,

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kind of funny, hopefully.

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Interesting way of explaining my method.

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So, thank you so much for joining
me and I will see you again in two

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weeks for another interesting topic.

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And that was my dog snorting.

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Her name is Stella

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.
So, this is the She
Who Is Seeking podcast.

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And it is the love child of me, Meena
Melissa Leigh, and all of the views,

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ideas and thoughts regarding the topics
in this episode are pretty much, uh,

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widespread and standard ..They're mine,
but also, I'm guessing they're yours.

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And, that's kind of the point on this one.

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The beautiful song is Snake
River, by Siren and the Sea.

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And as always, I am so rooting for
you, and I'm always advocating that

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you create a life that you love
and you live it every single day.

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And if you have any thoughts, Come
and find me over on Instagram.

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Over there I am @shewhoisseeking, or you
could go shewhoisseeking.transistor.fm

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and there, you will find all the episodes
as well as show notes and transcripts.

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Or you could come over and
find me at shewhoisseeking.com.

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Which as of now, currently, which is
August 2022, is getting a little showy.

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So if you were to go today, it
might look a little different than

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if you go next week, et cetera.

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But please come and find me.

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Let's talk.

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Let's chat.

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Let me know how things are
hitting your ears, where

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you're feeling it in your body.

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If any of this is ringing true to
you, or if I just kind of kept you

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company on the way to Trader Joe's.

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So, go in peace and power
and Victory to the Goddess.

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Blessed Be.