After 20 years of evading us forces, Afghan forces and NATO forces and hiding
in caves, the Taliban have finally emerged and within, I don't know, 14
days, less than two weeks, they have swept through the nation of Afghanistan.
They have waltz up to the capital Kabul.
They knocked on the gates and the Afghan government and military.
Simply handed over the keys time, transporting Afghanistan back 20 years
to 2001 erasing all of the gains that, that women and children, religious
Liberty, uh, freedom of press and freedom of speech had gained and
earned and fought for over 20 years and nullifying all the loss of lives.
Over to nearly 250,000 lives combined between Afghanis Pakistanis and us NATO
forces were lost, including civilians in there were lost in this 20 year period,
reassuring back into power, the Taliban and the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.
Hey, it's Lucas and you're listening to the Lucas robot show where
we uncover purpose, pursue truth and own the future episode 249.
It is the late afternoon of August 15th, 2021, which is vitally important because
by the time that you are listening to this, most of what we'll talk are talking
about will have already transpired.
That is right.
As we speak the, the president of Afghanistan, Vani, he is resigning
and he is signing power over to a transitionary government that will
transform Afghanistan back into what.
Most likely in the nineties in 2001, it used to be the, uh, the Islamic Emirate
of Afghanistan under the Taliban rule.
And that is exactly ladies and gentlemen, what it is going back to.
Now this transition of power has been, uh, a peaceful one.
There's the, the Taliban has met virtually no resists as they marched to the capital.
And at the Capitol and Kabul, no resistance.
They, they walked in.
They asked the police to surrender.
They did.
They walked up to the presidential palace and hugs and kisses, and they signed
over the government without, without any bullets fired, just like that.
Without any resistance that the Taliban now have seized military bases
they've seized the what used to be the largest, uh, foreign operation S
uh, operation based in air force base.
Uh, in the middle east, they've seized it.
They've seized Humvees, uh, airplanes, black Hawk helicopters, and they've now
negotiated an interim, uh, government or presidency that will train Zishan
Afghanistan from what they are today.
Back into the Islamic.
Emirate of Afghanistan, they are putting into power.
Most likely this transitionary, uh, administration will
be co-directed by Moolah.
Barada a Taliban leader.
Ali Ahmed.
Jalali, who's the former minister of internal affairs for Afghanistan and a
former employee of the voice of America, which is most likely a price that the
Taliban knew they would have to pay in order to be recognized by the west,
because that is extremely important that if the us probably has not learned very
much since Vietnam since 1975, apparently.
They've not learned much, but the Taliban certainly have.
They've learned that if they want to be in power, they have to have the
approval of some of the world powers.
They need to at least have a level of recognition.
And that is what they have gained as what they've won.
And it's clear by the fact that there has been no resistance that they just waltz in
that they have, they have enough leverage.
With world leaders and enough leverage within Afghanistan,
that they were able to do it.
This, this like a cakewalk.
Well, if you remember back in July, uh, president Biden, as he was announcing
his grandiose plans of, of pulling out of Afghanistan, he was asked at a press
conference of whether or not he thought.
That Afghanistan would fall to the Taliban forces.
This is what president Biden had to say back in July, July 8th.
I believe there's a Tali bond takeover of Afghanistan now.
Inevitable.
No, it is not because you have the Afghan troops have 300,000.
Well-equipped as well as crypto as any army in the world and an air force
against something like 75,000 times.
It is not inevitable.
It's not inevitable.
He says he went on in this, in this press conference to say, there's going to be
the Taliban, overrunning, everything, and owning the whole country is highly.
Well, two, six weeks later.
Yeah, he was drunk four to six weeks later from this clip, everything fell
apart for the U S NATO forces and it's, it's somewhat of a baffling mystery.
It's a mystery that here there's 300,000 well-trained troops that
are, have military support, have an air force that have vehicles.
And yet there was no, there was no resistance.
There's no standing up and fighting for their own country.
It makes you wonder why.
Why is this?
And as I've been pondering this, this is my, my own thoughts on the matter.
I don't have hardcore data.
I don't have the interviews to back this up, but my suspicion is the app.
Districts began to fall.
And as it was evident that the military was not going to, to resist the Taliban,
were people or disheartened that here, here that the American troops are leaving.
We've been at war for 20 years.
Are we going to hold onto the nation?
Are we going to hold onto the rights and liberties that we have fought so hard?
Is that's really what it is.
It's not just a, well, it's not just an American idea of quote unquote democracy
that was fought for it, but it was actual women's rights girls being able
to go to school past the sixth grade.
Girls not being forced into, into forced marriages as minors, that by, at the,
at the young age of 12, which is now happening, the Taliban forces are going
around knocking on doors and saying, Hey, do you have any young single girls?
Because they're going to be forced married to our, our military.
Are are Taliban.
Soldiers is already happening.
It's not just this mythical idea of quote unquote, the Western world
freedom, but it's actual, it's actual civil rights that were fought for that.
The Afghan people valued and appreciated as we'll get into later on in this
episode, actually hearing from people on the ground and what they feel and
think about everything that's happened.
It is just heartbreaking.
It is heartbreaking to see, and my suspicion.
Is that as the people saw that the government was not going to, to rally
that the military was not going to rally, it would be makes sense to me to
say, well, I'm not going to fight back against the Taliban because if indeed
the government is just going to fold and fall over that this was just a front
that was being supported by the U S.
Troops and forces for all, for all these 20 years, but there was no
substance of backbone behind the military to unite against the Taliban.
Then I would almost in the same, same side, be like, yeah, I'm not
going to try to fight against the Taliban as they roll through my stuff.
As they roll through my military base.
I'm just going to hand it over because I'm not going to be backed by the
rest of the military and not going to be, be backed by the U S government.
I'm not going to be backed by NATO.
So it's going to be better for me to surrender than try
to fight and lose my life.
And have my family lose their lives.
If there is no unified support, if the nation is going to be given
over anyways, why should I resist?
Why should I fight?
That's my opinion.
Well, apparently president Biden did not foresee this happening
as we played in those clips.
So it is highly unlikely.
This is nearly inconceivable, but.
Here we are four to six weeks later from this clip.
Afghanistan has fallen in Afghanistan.
It has now turned into, or if not turning into the, the Islamic Emirate
of Afghanistan with the Taliban, having taken full control over it,
the military now in the same press conference, there was a, another.
Brilliant, nearly prophetic, uh, question that was asked of president Biden, but
either he either bite and just was blind.
Or, and just didn't have the foresight.
Didn't want to see the possibilities of what would come from, just pulling
troops out without any sort of, but without any sort of checks without
any sort of negotiations without any sort of insurance, to make sure
that the nation would remain safe.
Maybe he just didn't want to see it or, or maybe he just didn't care to see
it, or maybe no one saw this coming, but here is a Biden being asked about.
Is there any correlation, is there any resemblance between what has happened
or what at that point would happen in Afghanistan and what happened
all the way back in 1975 in Vietnam?
Do you see any parallels between this withdrawal and what happened
in Vietnam with some people feeling.
Zero.
What you had is you had entire gage breaking through the gates of our embassy.
Six of I'm not mistaken.
The Taliban is not the south, the north Vietnamese army.
They're not, they're not remotely comparable in terms of capability.
There's going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the road.
Of a embassy in the, of the United States from Afghanistan?
Well, not at all comfortable.
Oh man.
He got this half, right?
He got this half, right.
That it's not comparable to Vietnam because there was no fighting.
There was th th th the Taliban just walked into the city.
They just walked through the nation with virtually zero resistance.
There's a couple of cities where there was fighting and resistance for about a day.
Other than that, th the Capitol itself did not resist at.
But , he kind of had it half, right.
American troops weren't being pulled off of the roof of the embassy,
but helicopters right now are going back and forth, trying to evacuate
all the American citizens, all the U S staff destroy the sensitive
documents within the, the embassy.
There've been videos coming out of stacks, black smoke coming up from the embassy as
the burn sensitive documents and work to destroy everything Biden even w was caught
was even begging, begging the Taliban.
Please, please, please.
Whatever you do, don't don't take our embassy.
Don't take our embassy.
You know, if, if you're coming into, into the Capitol spare our embassy, please.
And I'm sure that the Taliban probably will do that because they know that.
If they strike back against the U S forces as they are running well,
if you're going to kick a dog, as it runs, the dog is likely to turn
around and nip you and bite you.
And they don't want that.
They have, they have their victory.
America is pulling out.
So it makes sense that they are not going to storm.
The U S embassy.
So Biden has it half, right.
But when you look at pictures from 1975 in Saigon, in Vietnam, where helicopters
were flying over the U S embassy, pulling people out, pulling, uh, Vietnamese.
Out of Vietnam, as they slowly pulled the Americans out of the embassy, they
intentionally, these helicopters were sent just to get the, the American
staff and to get the ambassador.
But the ambassador said no way, I'm I going to just abandon all these
south Vietnamese people, they are getting on these helicopters too.
And so they evacuated.
Uh, hundreds of south Vietnamese people from the U S embassy and the
same thing is happening right now.
We have a similar image from the embassy in Afghanistan with, with a helicopter
flying over the embassy landing on the embassy grounds, pulling out U S staff.
Translators people who've worked with the U S military and the
situation there outside, uh, outside of the embassy is quite horrible.
There are, the streets are packed with cars, jam packed that.
The military bases have fallen to the Taliban.
The airport has fallen to the Taliban.
Uh, people were, had been trying to get out for days, and yet now all
of the boarding border crossings, all of the border crossings
are controlled by the Taliban.
I saw an image of, uh, of people standing in line trying to get passport.
So that they could attempt to leave the country.
The line was five there's, one office in Kabul.
The line was 5,000 people.
Another image of the one office where you can get a special emergency visa
as a political refugee to America or con Canada, or even Qatar.
Right now they're taking some people.
There's one guy who's doing the English translation with hundreds of
people packed in, standing in line.
And that was shut down by the Taliban.
So when he says.
There's no resemblance.
There's no resemblance between what has happened in 1975
and what's happening today.
Enough Panasonic.
In fact, no, there's nothing but resemblance.
There's nothing but resemblance in a 20 year war.
That has now a mounted in nothing.
And just the, the tucking tail and running there.
There's nothing but resemblance between people fighting and running to get out.
A lot of people I've heard, you know, say, well, you know, what do the
people on the ground thing, maybe, maybe this is a positive thing.
It's not a positive thing.
When people are rushing to the airports, when the streets are packed and crowded,
as people are trying to flee the city because they fear for their lives.
Oftentimes, we like to make these, these correlations that, oh, well,
you know, America and the American troops are no worse than the
Taliban and the Taliban troops.
If that is true, if that is true, then why is everyone trying to get out?
Why are people fleeing?
There's actually a vast difference.
There is a vast difference.
It doesn't mean that America's without corruption doesn't mean that American
troops haven't done wicked things.
That is all true.
Doesn't mean that there, there is no blood on our hands.
It doesn't even mean that we had a, that going into Afghanistan was
a good idea in the first place.
But I am saying it, it says something when you see the people of Afghanistan
fleeing to get out, because they do not want to be under the regime.
Of the Taliban, this, I don't know who this is good for.
It doesn't seem like this would be a very good move for us policy
to just let this happen or further their standing in the world.
Uh, Russia.
However, in China, they have made relationships with the total.
And the, the Talibani government, they, the Russian embassy is
staying there in, uh, in Kabul.
I know that the UK is trying to get their people out, uh, as well as
India is getting their people out.
In matter of fact, the Taliban.
As sieged and not even see it, it wasn't even a war have, have entered
into Kabul today on the 15th, which is the anniversary of India's independent.
And some of my sources are saying that that is intentional because India is,
has not opened up any sort of diplomatic relationships with the Taliban.
And so the fact that the Taliban is pushing forward so quickly to move
in and sign power on the same day of Indian independence, many people.
If this is a, a, uh, uh, not a happy wink, but a wink, insane, any sort of
resistance or counteractions from the Indian government will not be tolerated.
We have our eye on you.
We know what's going on.
Uh, all in all.
This is shocking.
Of course, I do not think people saw this coming and people, people said,
you know, within a couple of weeks, couple of my fall, and then it was
within 72 hours, couple of my fault.
And now it's, it was 48 hours later.
Not, and not only.
Was there no resistance, but the president resigned and he and I, again,
I have a level of empathy after 20 years of fighting 20 years of bliss,
the president Vani said in a previous statement, I will not let the imposed
war on people cause more deaths.
That's what he said.
He said, you know what?
We've had so many deaths.
I am not going to continue this war.
In other words, if the Taliban come in, I am going to fold and I'm
going to give them power because I do not want to see any more
bloodshed of the Afghan people now.
It time will tell time will tell what is true regarding this.
But the question, the question stands for so many is okay, are we, are we giving up?
And are we winning a temporary victory?
Call it of lives.
This ain't no.
Hey, we're not going to go to war right now.
We're not going to fight now.
We're not going to resist.
Now.
We're going to preserve lives now.
So that in the future, We can, we can be preserved.
Are we going to save lives now?
But what happens when the Taliban truly go back to how they were in the nineties?
Will they suffer a greater loss later?
Will they suffer a greater loss under that regime will their
children and their girls suffer a greater loss underneath that regime.
And it would have been.
If they fought now better if they stood their ground now and made sure that not
one of those provinces were lost to the Taliban starting a number of weeks ago,
which would have signaled straight.
To their military, but instead weakness was signaled and, and the
Taliban has, has now come into power.
And, uh, that ends, that ends a 20 year conflict.
And that does it does put it on the same footing, the same ground we're
seeing nearly identical images.
From Vietnam from 1975 to what we're seeing today in Afghanistan in 2021.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
A post-truth society where we have exchanged truth for lies and reason
for postmodern irrationality.
The absurd finally make sense.
And there is.
Of absurdity that is going on, uh, in the geopolitics surrounding what has happened
and is happening quite now in Afghanistan.
Here is Jen Saki, uh, commenting on, uh, the Taliban's place in the, in the
international community, and also has to make an assessment about what they want
their role to be in the international.
The Taliban has to make an assessment of who and where they want to be
in the international community.
Do you know this, this idea?
It comes back to some things we've touched on already in today's
show is that multiculturalism?
Is a good thing and yes, it's great to have diversity.
Not everyone needs to be cookie cutter, shake shapes, uh, there a multitude of
cultures in the world, and it's great that each culture has their own expression.
I love that, but what gets tricky is.
It becomes not just an embracing of diversity and multiple cultures,
but it becomes multi-cultural ism within multi-cultural ism.
It's this idea.
That's the idea is that every idea has equal footing.
That everyone's cultural is equally good that everyone, you know, some
people might express their, their politics differently, but over.
It's all the same.
It all has the same outcome.
We're all basically unequal footing.
There is a level when you look at humanity as a whole, yes, we
are all are on the same footing.
We all.
Hearts that are wickedly disciple.
We have a propensity to evil and benevolence it's inside of each
and every human being, but the constitution of a society, the
way that a society is structured.
And the ideas that informed that structure actually have a vast difference on
the outcomes that that society will.
And we, we, we witnessed this throughout socialistic or, or socialism or communism
when you take the ideas of communism and you apply it to a society, you see the.
The same thing when it comes to capitalism, when you apply the
ideas of capitalism to a society, you see the outcome, what's the
outcome of communism, poverty, mass, mass destruction, mass starvation.
It's happened every time.
What is the outcome of, of ideas like capitalism?
Th the freedom to work and to keep what you make.
Well, the ideas from that is the reduction of poverty lifting billions of people out
of poverty over the last a hundred years.
Different ideas do have different fruits and different outcomes.
But when we take like Jen Saki is doing right here saying, well, they just have
to decide who they want to be at the table of the international community.
That's implying that we're all on equal footing, that their ideas
about women or women's rights or girls or freedom of speech, freedom
of religion, freedom of thought.
That well, they're all pretty much the same.
Well, apparently not all people think that they're the same, of
course the west, uh, especially as we've embraced postmodernism,
everybody's we have embraced globalism.
We say, well, it's all the same.
It's you know, we're all.
Making it together, whatever, whatever your relative truth
is, is your relative truth.
But when you live in the country, when you live in the situation,
it becomes much different.
Here is a clip from NPR.
Talking about the, the status on the ground, uh, in Afghanistan,
in the areas of the Taliban have conquered, though, it all looks a
little too familiar to most Afghans.
The Taliban has not changed at all in their conduct on the ground Hossain hook.
Connie is a former Pakistani ambassador to the U S who is
now at the Hudson Institute.
Yeah.
So in the areas that the tolerance.
Have been controlling over, over the last weeks.
We see that it has not changed.
It has not changed since the nineties.
So they've, they've brilliantly.
I figured out how to rebrand themselves, how to put a new face on the Taliban.
Thanks to multiculturalism.
You know, what, what seat at the table do you want to have now
that you you're buddy, buddy, up with the powers of the west.
Just let us know, you know, what sort of font you want and you'll be fine.
It doesn't matter.
What's actually in the package.
It doesn't matter what the outplay actually is.
As long as you play along with it, the game they have been executing people,
somatically, they have been laughing.
Uh, women, they have been shutting down schools, they
have been blowing up hospitals.
Uh, the only thing that has changed is that they understand the need for a little
more international acceptance of them.
The last time they were in power, the Taliban were isolated from much
of the rest of the global community.
The U S has spent the past few years hammering out a peace deal with them.
And in recent weeks, Taliban leaders have been to.
Russia and China Medea also is a fellow in foreign policy
at the Brookings institution.
That's a problematic message because it essentially legitimizes
them without them having to engage in a reduction in violence are
obviously better, still a cease fire.
Now this, this might be one of the biggest mistakes that.
President Donald Trump made, and this is a little off the cuff, but the, one
of the biggest mistakes he might have made is normalizing relations with, uh,
the Afghan now the Afghan government.
And just as they're seen in this clip, the tolerance.
Normalizing relationships with the Taliban government.
Excuse me.
The Taliban has gone to Russia has gone to Iran, has gone to China and
they've begun to normalize all of these relationships, which really have,
have paved away for this sweeping.
Of of Afghanistan.
Now, president Biden tried to lay this catastrophe at the feet of Donald Trump
saying, no, I heard her, I inherited this deal from, uh, uh, uh, my predecessor
and, uh, because, uh, no, because of that, it's really not my fault.
But then you also said I'm not going to pass this on to another president.
He's a fourth president too, to have this war and he's not going
to pass it on, which is great.
I don't think anyone wants to see the war passed on for, for another four years.
No one is saying that, but I don't think anyone wanted to see America just
jumped ship and, and let the people who have been resisting or the women or the
children who have been going to work or setting up schools for young girls.
We don't want to see them put at risk their lives, put in danger because of,
uh, president Biden, deciding just to pull, to pull people out full force.
I don't know what the deal was between Trump and, and maybe his plans of
how he would have pulled it out.
But I have a feeling now knowing, uh, what we know about president Donald
Trump, former president, Donald Trump, that he probably would not have been.
So maybe not reckless, but just so laser fair about it, just so weak about it.
He loves to make sure that America looks strong.
And because of that, I have a feeling he wouldn't let this, this happened the
weight that it has, but instead we have.
Biden and Biden has said, you know what, this isn't my fault.
This is Trump's fault.
I'm not gonna take responsibility with the way that we handle it out.
Uh, handled, pulling out I'm I don't regret it.
And, uh, we're just going to get our people out of Afghanistan and.
Even though he said, it's going to look nothing like Vietnam.
It is exactly like Vietnam.
Well, some more people on the ground about the B the stance that Afghanistan
or that, uh, the Taliban really want to have at the international community as.
Women are being lashed.
People are being painted in blackface and tarred and toured around the
cities after being beaten and rash to serve them a sentence.
Uh, people who've been accused of stealing have been, as this happened,
two executions have been happening across Afghanistan by the taller.
So when you ask yourself, what place do they want at the table, but sort of what
sort of reputation do they want to have?
Well, they want to have one reputation at the international table and they want to
run the country in a very different way.
Here is my haboob, uh, strategy from the contacts you've been able
to speak to around Afghanistan.
Just tell us how women are fairing in the cities that have fallen to the Taliban.
Um, the situation is extremely bad.
Um, the woman that I have been talking to, or they are reporting to us, especially
the human rights defenders or the civil society members, or just the ordinary
people that they were working in offices.
Uh, they are all, um, uh, leaving, uh, most of these people.
Um, especially from condos area and you're trying to get to some safe
places, whatever they are, some of them are trying to come to Cabo or go
to Mazari Sharif with their families.
So the situation is extremely bad and one in what makes me really extremely.
Yeah.
Um, how should I say?
Very sad is the fact that now Afghanistan and the lives of the
African people has become a subject of the Twitters of the world.
And the, and, and just, you know, uh, places like the United nations
or they're all, you know, treating now about Afghanistan and that's all
they're going to be doing about it.
And everybody is just watching to see what's going to be happening.
I don't know what it is that they're all expecting.
That is going to happen in games though.
Well, I think Mr.
Rogers, this she is so right here it is.
Afghanistan has moved from actual steps that can be taken to help Afghan people
and arguably some of it wasn't good.
Arguably, there were mistakes made, but here this, this Afghan woman is
saying now it's, it's just going to be something that gets tabled at the UN.
And it's just going to get shuffled and buried underneath global warming.
It's going to get shuffled and buried against, uh, the
LGBTQ rights across the globe.
It's going to be shuffled and Berry as another line item that people
are going to pontificate about as.
Very little will end up getting done for the Afghan people,
to all of us that they want.
I don't understand it.
I really don't understand.
The situation is really about . Uh, by this Mr.
Raja, I'm sure that many people are wishing the people of Afghanistan all
the very best and hoping that the, and she has a point here is, is it the death?
Is it the death of, of the, did you want to all of us that they want?
I don't understand it.
Okay.
Well, she goes on in this interview with TRT world and she just lays
into the, the ruling elite of the world who are really just using
Afghanistan as a pawn in their own game.
Not seeming to.
Not seeming to take care and to consider or use empathy or, or use
caution when it comes to the health and safety of the most vulnerable
Afghan people to those one readers.
I'm going to say it really shame on you.
I'm going to say to the whole world, shame on you for, for
what you did to Afghanistan.
Why did you have to do what you did and why you're doing
this to this part of the world?
I don't know.
I mean, are you already using all of us or we being just the ponds in your hands?
Is that what it is?
I don't understand it, but I really, really, you know, the fact that we
don't have any hopes from you and the fact that that really, I don't
even want to talk to you at all because the talking time is over.
We talked to you with the mom that we asked.
We, we, we did everything and, and nobody paid any yet.
They just made decisions with their gut feelings or whatever, all of these
men of the world that they are in power and they are destroying what,
something that we worked so hard for.
What is happening in Afghanistan today is going to put this country 200.
Yeah, yes.
Back again.
And how are we going to do that again?
Again, for me, I'm not going to see anything good about this generation.
I'm going to be gone.
I won't even see my country doing what it's supposed to be.
Well, not only me, but a whole lot of other people, even for the young
generation, what are we going to do now?
There's going to be an Exodus of the Africans again, leaving this country.
So what I'm going to do, we are going to sit again and fight again and lose
again, and then make another generation.
And then for, for the world to make another stupid decision and destroy
us all, is this what is going on?
I don't understand it.
This Boba, this lady.
She's right.
That this is putting this nation 200 years back, not just 20 years
back, it was just it's this vicious, endless cycle of atrocity and war.
As she said, all the Afghan people, th the educated people, the ones who
were working to develop the nation, the ones that were working to develop.
Childhood education for young girls to develop society.
They're going to leave and they are leaving the, our fleet.
What happens to a nation and what happens to the youth.
And as she rightly put, is it just, are they just pawns to be
used by the powers of the world?
Just in one day and the next.
Without any regard for the millions of lives that are on the line?
It is, it is shocking days.
It is shocking days that we are in.
We are truly in incredible days in the earth.
We're in the midst of a shift of times in seasons across the.
And obviously this started back in 2020 with everything that was happening and
the globalization that's happening, but we're also seeing a massive
shifts of, of power and a swing of power, which seems to be a way from
America in to China and to Russia.
Uh, we are, we are in an epoch shift.
And we see it right now in the middle east.
We see it with deals being made between Israel and UAE and Bahrain.
We see it with an increase of conflict between between Gaza and Hamas and Israel.
We see it.
In Afghanistan with the Taliban coming back to power.
What this all means, where this all, so heads we, we will,
we will see in the future.
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I'm a part of the show where we take ancient wisdom and we weave it in with
our every day lives so that we can own our future and weave our destiny.
Well, today's quote comes from the one and only son sued the art of war.
What would be, it would be wrong of us not to include a
quote today from the art of war.
Since we were talking about, uh, the falling of the U S military
in Afghanistan, it's, it's not just that they've retreated.
Uh, when you look at the.
This all happened, but it was a clear, a clear loss.
So no, no better place to turn.
Then the art of war and this quote is the Supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy
without fighting the Supreme art of war.
Is this, do the enemy without fighting now.
It certainly seems like the Afghanistan, Taliban army really nailed that one.
I mean, they, they, they figured out how to hide and, and use guerrilla
warfare and, uh, evade, the Afghani, Afghans troops, the American troops
and the Taliban, or the, the NATO troops, excuse me, for 20 years.
They, they slept, they just waited it out for 20 years as they have
been doing for hundreds of years, the Afghan people are warring people.
They, they, they, they kicked the Russians out.
They lost their, and the Americans, as I said, it was a fool's errand for them
to go in and think that they could win.
There were gains that happened as we saw, you know, even from Booba,
has she described that we've lost so much now with w with these world
superpowers, just saying we're done with you, not fend for yourselves.
Good luck.
After fighting, fighting.
20 years after.
And it's not just like Americans came in and fought for 20 years
or NATO came in, but the Afghan people fought for their own land.
They fought for their own people.
Side-by-side with American troops and NATO troops and Australian troops
for 20 years, UK troops for 20 years.
And as she said, it's like, what?
Now?
Now you just abandoned us.
And all of the, all of the lives that were sacrificed for, for freedom of, as I
said, freedom of religion, freedom of, uh, equal rights for women and young girls to
be able to go to school and be educated.
Those are all going to be wiped off the board.
It happened in two weeks, wiped off the board.
So the Taliban, they were able to hold their breath.
Wait for the right moment.
Move the right chess pieces, get the right, the right influence, the right
international recognition from, from nations like America, Russia, China, Iran.
So that.
In the inevitable day that America would finally leave, they would be able
to subdue the enemy without fighting.
And they did.
They walked straight into the Capitol and they were given the
keys to the kingdom without a fight.
So hand clap to the Taliban for winning this, the Supreme art of war metal.
Uh, you win.
Absolutely.
I mean, clear as day there, it took them 20 years.
They realized, you know, the quote before the proverb, before.
This sun Tzu quote, it says, hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is
not Supreme excellence in his translation.
It says Supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's
resistance without fighting.
And this is what the Taliban did.
They said, you know what?
We're not going to win all of our battles because that's not Supreme
excellence, but we are going to break American's resistance.
Without fighting and they, it took them 20 years to do it, but nearly 20
years to the day they did, they did.
So if, if we're handing out metals on this show, the Taliban would get the
metal for the Supreme court, heart of war.
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