In Episode 23 of Changing the Narrative, Murray Elbourne and Elizabeth Rouse are settling a score. There is a cross-continental sports rivalry to relitigate, a wrestler accused of cursing an entire NBA playoff run, and at least one fast food order so questionable it nearly derails the whole show. Then the gloves come off. What really separates a good leader from a great one? Murray and Elizabeth do not just talk about it, they compete over it, turning their answers into a head-to-head draft where every pick has to be defended and nobody backs down quietly. It is fast, it is funny, and it might just change how you think about the people you choose to follow.
But the real heart of this one sneaks up on you. Somewhere between stories of unlikely mentors and hard-won lessons about owning your mistakes, Elizabeth lays something raw on the table, a leadership opportunity staring her down right now, one she is not at all sure she is ready for. How she wrestles with that question is the kind of unguarded moment that makes you sit up. This is an episode about confidence and fear, about leading and following, and about the uncomfortable truth that the things we are most afraid of are often the ones worth chasing. Press play and ask yourself the question they cannot stop circling: what would you do if the scariest opportunity was the right one?
What is Changing the Narrative?
Changing the Narrative is a weekly podcast about blindness and low vision hosted by Murray Elbourn and Elizabeth Rouse. They cut through clichés, share lived expertise, and spotlight what works in education, work, sports, tech, and daily life. Expect frank talk on independence, policy, and culture, plus features on organizations moving the needle. Watch on YouTube via Amerability. Listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify