The Unknown Path

"If you don't understand the struggle, you'll never understand the success." — Simon Madden. 

This week I sat down with one of my childhood heroes. Simon Madden played 378 games for Essendon, won two premierships, a Norm Smith Medal, and four Best and Fairests — and almost none of this conversation is about that. 
In this episode: 
  • Why "overnight success" is the most misleading phrase in sport 
  • Being called "two yards of pump water" at 16, and what Simon did about it 
  • Getting sacked as captain at 23 and ending up on the interchange bench in the seconds and the question that turned it around
  • Confidence, conviction, courage: Simon's framework for what he calls "a whole performance" 
  • Losing his dad at 13, and what his mother taught him about just continuing 
  • Ubuntu — "I am because we are" — and the philosophy that runs through everything Simon believes about teams 

The line I'm carrying out of this one: it's not what happens to you. It's how you respond to it.


Simon Madden is an AFL Hall of Fame inductee and former Essendon captain who now works with businesses, schools and charities on leadership, culture and performance.

The Unknown Path is a podcast about the unseen journeys behind success — the failures, turning points, and quiet moments that shape lives we admire from the outside.
Website: theunknownpathpodcast.com
Instagram: @jemfuller

What is The Unknown Path?

The Unknown Path is about the quiet grit behind “overnight” success. Each week I sit down with founders, entrepreneurs, artists and change-makers to mine the moments that shaped them—doubts, detours, decisions, and the choice that changed everything. Come for the wins; stay for the wisdom. Build a fulfilled life that actually feels like you.