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In this conversation, Daren Smith and Garrett Batty discuss the progress of the release of their film Faith of Angels. They talk about their experiences with indie movies, the box office numbers, and the challenges they face in the release process. They also discuss the importance of surrounding themselves with experienced individuals and using data-driven strategies to navigate the release. They emphasize the need to set realistic goals and focus on tangible results. In this conversation, Garrett Batty and Daren Smith discuss the importance of setting realistic expectations and being resourceful in the independent film industry. They emphasize the need to start small and prove oneself before aiming for larger budgets and releases. They also discuss the strategy behind choosing theaters for a film release and the importance of creating demand and measuring it with actual ticket sales. The conversation highlights the importance of profitability in order to continue making more movies.