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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we are jumping right into the segment given to This.

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<v Speaker 2>Is one of everybody's favorite new segments, our longtime listeners. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they love it. They comment on them all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is other than your encyclopedic knowledge of movies. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this might be your other wheelhouse. And that is off

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<v Speaker 2>the cuff being able to sing lyrics. Because our podcast

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<v Speaker 2>intro is getting dated.

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<v Speaker 3>How many years were you a worship leader?

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<v Speaker 4>Fifteen years exactly? Yeah, but I'm not a good singer.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a worship leader for three I'm not a

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<v Speaker 3>good singer.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. You notice I've been preaching longer than I

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<v Speaker 2>was the singer. So so, but you are, man, you

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<v Speaker 2>are so good at this off the cuff thing, no rehearsal.

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<v Speaker 4>And so here's what we did.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to find a new theme song for the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible Guys podcast. Oh yeah, and so so we just

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<v Speaker 2>typed it into to chat GPT. Yeah right, well here's

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<v Speaker 2>what I said, GBT, I'll get it. I wrote, help

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<v Speaker 2>me write a theme song for the Bible Guys podcast

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<v Speaker 2>to the tune of Happy Days. Okay, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>spelled happy Days there, but it still knew what we wanted,

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<v Speaker 2>and so.

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<v Speaker 4>It gave us this, Chris, It said, you got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a version that still fits the Happy Day's rhythm

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<v Speaker 2>and rhyme, adding a little more flavor and flow. There

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<v Speaker 2>you go, give us some flavor and flow, Chris. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, to the tune and Happy Days.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody under thirty five doesn't know this, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or maybe under forty watch Happy Days that's why.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, okay, well here I'll give it a try

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<v Speaker 1>quite high.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're just doing as many good theme songs as

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<v Speaker 2>there used to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So so it starts a Monday Tuesday, okay, okay, so good, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>Monday Tuesday Bible Guys, Wednesday, Thursday, Truth that Flies, Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>Weekend Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Faith in fun with open eyes, Faith in fun with

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<v Speaker 1>open eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>These these talks are joyful and free Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Bible Time Bud's just you and me, cracking jokes and

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<v Speaker 6>diving in truth and grace.

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<v Speaker 3>We always win Bible guys. And then then the.

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<v Speaker 1>Next one says, hello proverbs, goodbye shame, reading truth in

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus' name, open joy. We're here to stay walking with

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<v Speaker 1>the love these days. She whiz.

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<v Speaker 3>These talks around, joyful.

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<v Speaker 1>And free Bible guys, Bible time on buds, just you

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<v Speaker 1>and me, jeeves.

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<v Speaker 3>We're done, all right, we're done. That's actually quite high.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a good one. Quite get the tune. That

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<v Speaker 4>was a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>So wow, Chris, it is so I keep saying, if

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<v Speaker 2>the ministry doesn't work out for you, singing jingles.

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<v Speaker 4>For podcasts, Yeah, that's that. That might be. That might

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<v Speaker 4>be my future.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you know we're in this board media and we

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<v Speaker 1>really need a jingle for a Bible podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know anybody who does.

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<v Speaker 2>That for a living, well, if we can get him,

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<v Speaker 2>if he's available.

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<v Speaker 1>He saw the guy at the homeless guy on the

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<v Speaker 1>street with the cardboard sign that says he used to

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<v Speaker 1>do that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's you man, You are the king, the king

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<v Speaker 2>of podcast jingles.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>So speaking of happy days, yeah, we didn't have a

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<v Speaker 2>happy day, no, because look at our outfits.

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<v Speaker 3>They switched.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the weird transition today.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you've been listening a while, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>we shoot for weird transitions. So we're actually filming the

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<v Speaker 1>second half of this podcast on another day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well what happened was, uh, well, you did an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible job, thank you on this the first time we

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<v Speaker 2>recorded it, but there was a problem with the recording

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<v Speaker 2>and we couldn't use it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So we're going to pick right up with the

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<v Speaker 1>scripture reading and we're going to jump into Daniel chapter.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think like fifty years from now there will

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<v Speaker 2>be like the Beatles or something, then they'll they'll release

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<v Speaker 2>the lost tapes, the lost recordings, Yes, the Bible guys, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they're going.

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<v Speaker 4>To find that episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe that with all my heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, anyways, we were going to read once again, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel chapter three, and this is one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>stories in the whole Bible. I think it is with

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<v Speaker 2>one of you two. So here we go. It says

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<v Speaker 2>in Daniels chapter three, King Nebu Kinnesser made a gold

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<v Speaker 2>statue ninety feet tall and nine feet wide and set

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<v Speaker 2>of Babylon. And then he sent messages to the high officers, officials, governors, advisors, treasurers, judges, magistrates,

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<v Speaker 2>of the statute set up. So all these official came

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<v Speaker 2>and stood before the king the statue King Nebukeinezer had

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<v Speaker 4>Then a herald shouted.

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<v Speaker 2>People of all races and nations and languages, listen to

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<v Speaker 2>the King's command. When you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lear, harp, pipes,

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<v Speaker 2>and other musical instruments, bow to the ground to worship

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<v Speaker 2>King Nebucanezer's gold statue. Anyone who refuses to obey will

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<v Speaker 2>immediately be thrown into a blazing furnace. So at the

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<v Speaker 2>sound of the musical instruments, all the people, whatever the race,

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<v Speaker 2>or nation or language, bowed to the ground or worshiped

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<v Speaker 2>the gold statue that King Nebuconezzer had set up. But

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<v Speaker 2>some of the astrologers went to the king and informed

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<v Speaker 2>on the Jews. They said to King nebucon Azer, long

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<v Speaker 2>live the king. You issued a degree a decree requiring

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<v Speaker 2>all the people to bow down and worship the gold

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<v Speaker 2>statue when they hear the sound of the horn the flute,

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<v Speaker 2>the zither, the lear, the harp, pipes.

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<v Speaker 4>And other musical instruments.

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<v Speaker 2>That decree also states that those who refuse to obey

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<v Speaker 2>it must be thrown into a blazing furnace. But there

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<v Speaker 2>are some Jews, Shadrack, Mishak and Abtnigo, whom you have

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<v Speaker 2>put in charge of the prop to Babylon. They paid

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<v Speaker 2>no attention to you, your majesty. They refuse to serve

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<v Speaker 2>your gods and do not worship the gold statue you've

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<v Speaker 4>Then nebu Keinezer.

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<v Speaker 2>Flew into a rage in order that shadracked me shack

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<v Speaker 2>in a bed to go be brought before him. When

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<v Speaker 2>they were brought in, nebu Keinezer said to them, is

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<v Speaker 2>it true, shadrack me shack in a bed to go,

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<v Speaker 2>that you refuse to serve my gods or to worship

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<v Speaker 2>the gold statue I've set up. I will give you

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<v Speaker 2>one more chance to bow down or worship the statue

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<v Speaker 2>I've made when you hear the sound of the musical instruments.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you refuse, you will be thrown immediately into

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<v Speaker 2>the blazing furnace. And then what God will be able

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<v Speaker 2>to rescue you from my power Shadrack, me Shack, and

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<v Speaker 2>a bed and go, replied, oh, Nebu Canezzer, we do

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<v Speaker 2>not need to defend ourselves before you. If we are

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<v Speaker 2>thrown into the blazing furnace, the god whom we serve

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<v Speaker 2>is able to save us. He will rescue us from

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<v Speaker 2>your power, your majesty. But even if he doesn't, we

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<v Speaker 2>want to make it clear to you, your majesty, that

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<v Speaker 2>we will never serve your gods or worship the gold

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<v Speaker 2>statue you've set up. Nebu Caineza was so furious or Shadrack,

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<v Speaker 2>me shack in the bed and go, that his face

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<v Speaker 2>became distorted with rage. He commanded the furnace be heated

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<v Speaker 2>seven times hotter than usual, and then he ordered some

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<v Speaker 2>of the strongest men of his army to bind Shadrack, Meshack,

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<v Speaker 2>and a ben ago and throw them into the blazing furnace.

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<v Speaker 2>So they tied them up and threw them into the furnace,

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<v Speaker 2>And because the king in his anger, had demanded such

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<v Speaker 2>soldiers as they threw the three men in, so shadracked

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<v Speaker 2>into the roaring flames. But suddenly Nebu Kinezer jumped up

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<v Speaker 2>in amazement and exclaimed to his advisers, didn't we tie

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<v Speaker 2>up three men and throw them into the furnace? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>your majesty, we certainly did, they replied, Look, Nebu Cainnezer shouted,

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<v Speaker 2>I see four men unbound, walking around in the fire, unharmed,

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<v Speaker 2>and the fourth looks like a god. Then Nebu Canezer

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<v Speaker 2>came as close as he could to the door of

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<v Speaker 2>the flaming furnace and shouted, shadrack me shack in a

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<v Speaker 2>bed to go. Servants are the most high God, come out,

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<v Speaker 2>come here. So shadrack me shack and a bed and

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<v Speaker 2>go stepped out of the fire. Then the high officers, officials, governors,

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<v Speaker 2>anders crowded around them and saw that the fire had

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<v Speaker 2>not touched them. Not a hair on their heads were singed,

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<v Speaker 2>and their clothing was not scorched. They didn't even smell

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<v Speaker 2>like smoke. Then Nebukanezer said, praise to the God of

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<v Speaker 2>shadrag me shack and abed and go. He sent his

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<v Speaker 2>angels to rescue his servants who trusted in him. They

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<v Speaker 2>defied the King's command and were willing to die rather

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<v Speaker 4>Therefore, I make this decree.

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<v Speaker 2>If any people, whatever their race, or nation or language,

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<v Speaker 2>Abed ne Go, they will be torn limb from limb,

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<v Speaker 2>and their houses will be turned into heaps of rubble.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no other god who can rescue like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the king promoted Shadrag, me Shack and Abed to

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<v Speaker 2>go to even higher positions in the province of Babylon.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, come on, there's not a more epic tale.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can think about it. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>stands among the top right, Yes, it's definitely in the

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<v Speaker 1>top ten.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely for sure, best movie in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well them, you know I think that, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>see this playing out movie wise, with all the emotion

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<v Speaker 1>and drama and score of the music underneath. Right, look

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<v Speaker 1>at my shirt today, leave the gun, take the canoli.

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<v Speaker 4>What what movie is that you've told me before? I

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<v Speaker 4>can't remember. It is a Godfather.

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<v Speaker 3>It's such a classical line. It's so great, so.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's funny how how extreme neby Canezra is.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>So he goes, He's like, I'm gonna build a ninety

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<v Speaker 2>foot statue if anybody doesn't, and then I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>a rock band play before you have to get down

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<v Speaker 2>and worship it. And then if you don't worship it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna throw you in a fiery furnace. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is like an industrial furnace, like for making bricks or

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<v Speaker 2>steel or not steel but iron or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Then they're they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, uh, throw them in the fire and it was

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<v Speaker 2>turned up hotter and uh. Then the guys that he

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<v Speaker 2>throws them in they die. And then when when God

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<v Speaker 2>rescues them, he goes, all right, anybody who doesn't honor

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<v Speaker 3>It's like he's manic or something, just totally over the

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<v Speaker 1>Now as we remember Shadwack me check at Bendigo where

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<v Speaker 1>the friends of Daniel, we just read in Daniel chapter one,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, no, right, smoke, Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>here you are, and I am telling you you better

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<v Speaker 3>And and and then it's basically what he says.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I love it because they said, we're not

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Like, we don't have to we think about this.

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<v Speaker 1>This translation says, but another version would say, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>even careful. In other words, we don't even have to

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Understand that our minds are made up. Much like in

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<v Speaker 1>chapter one when they resolved in their minds. Daniel one eight, right,

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<v Speaker 1>want to let you know very clearly, right, we'll never

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<v Speaker 1>do it. And God's able to rescue us. But if

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't, let it be know, we will never right.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's just I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just such a stance of saying we have made

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<v Speaker 4>We don't need a second chance.

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<v Speaker 2>No, let's not waste any time, right, we don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to waste any time at all. Now they're very respectful,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can appreciate about these young men. This is

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things that you found. I pointed that

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<v Speaker 2>out in Daniels chapter one as well, that they tend

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<v Speaker 2>to be pretty respectful to the king even though they're captives,

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<v Speaker 2>and there is something about that diplomacy. But even here,

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<v Speaker 2>even in their defiance, they're not defying him as as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all of a sudden, now they're out protesting

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to burn down your buildings and we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna you know, deface your property or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just saying, listen, we're going to stand on our principles.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't need to give us a second chance. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to do it, your majesty, And they did.

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<v Speaker 2>They called him your majesty a couple of times. And

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<v Speaker 2>so it's possible for us to disagree and still be

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ladies and gentlemen when when we're you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Yeahs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I look back in my life when I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to say it this way, but sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>to disrespect authority.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we like we were always mad at teachers.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh they're just the worst.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm mad at policeman. Ah the you know, I smell bacon.

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<v Speaker 3>Here comes a cop car. You know, like, oh dude.

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<v Speaker 1>We were totally disrespectful, right, which of course I'm totally

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<v Speaker 1>in the opposite now right, totally respect police officers.

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<v Speaker 3>But back then we just didn't. It was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was almost like our family, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of blue collar people on the south side

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<v Speaker 1>of or you know, west side of Youngstown that just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to you know, you know, give it back to

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<v Speaker 1>the man, you know what I mean. And so consequently,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of times where I think that

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<v Speaker 1>I stood up for what I believed in, even in Christianity,

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<v Speaker 1>my faith, but I.

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<v Speaker 3>Did not do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not do it respectfully. Like I think of

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<v Speaker 1>high school. I think of my teacher that was out

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<v Speaker 1>for me, and she really was. She hated the fact

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<v Speaker 1>I was a Christian. She publicly mocked me. She was

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<v Speaker 1>an atheist, and she made fun of me. And I

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<v Speaker 1>stood back up to her, but I did it so

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<v Speaker 1>disrespectfully because she was going to make fun of me,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna make fun of her. And I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I wud have done it differently. I wish I would

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<v Speaker 1>have taken the upper higher road, you know. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, they totally show respect and and and that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably what kept them their jobs at the end, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because God delivered them.

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<v Speaker 3>And come to find out, you know, they.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't shame him.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they just stood on principle, right, that's all, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And so they don't have to shame a king who

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<v Speaker 2>disagrees with them, or who is even a bad man.

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<v Speaker 2>They just stood on their principle and said, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I know the story. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most famous stories in the Bible. Most

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<v Speaker 2>of our listeners probably have heard some version of this story.

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<v Speaker 2>But they didn't know what was going to happen. They

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<v Speaker 2>had a really good shot that this was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the end of it for them. They said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>our God is able to protect us, and he is

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<v Speaker 2>going to deliver us from your demands. But they're not saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if he doesn't save us. They're not saying

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<v Speaker 2>we know for sure God's going to do it, because

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<v Speaker 2>they go, if he doesn't save us, well then that's

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<v Speaker 2>okay too, because we're still not going to bow right.

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<v Speaker 2>And the kind of courage it takes to stand on principle,

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<v Speaker 2>not knowing what the outcome was going to be and

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<v Speaker 2>still being civil when I mean facing death here, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's going to be a pleasant death.

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<v Speaker 1>No, So they must be looking down into a furnace, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the picture makes more sense, you know, because furnaces

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes they'll have like like like a lower spot where

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<v Speaker 1>you can shove cole into it, you know. So it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't that it had to have been it had to

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<v Speaker 3>So the studies and the readings.

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<v Speaker 1>That I've seen in the past was probably like an

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<v Speaker 1>an elevated platform to throw things down in. Right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you'd throw down into a pit or something. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that would make more sense because if the strong

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<v Speaker 1>that they were consumed by flames going up perhaps, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we don't know, But then think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The king always is elevated. We know that king's always elevated,

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<v Speaker 1>So the king would be in a position to look

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<v Speaker 1>down into the furnace. How else can you see four

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<v Speaker 1>people through a doorway? Right, But if it's an open top, well,

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<v Speaker 2>Say he could he came as close as he could

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<v Speaker 2>to the door of the flaming furnace. What yeah, does

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<v Speaker 2>it really twenty six?

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<v Speaker 3>Be quiet?

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<v Speaker 4>I want took it where verse twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Six the debucators came in closest he could to the

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<v Speaker 1>door of the flaming first. Wow, everything I just said

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<v Speaker 1>I'd take back.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it doesn't have to be it can be that way.

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<v Speaker 2>But somehow he could see in and there was a

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. But you know what, I'm not sure I ever

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a note in here that talks about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me let me find it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, hey, listen, listen now that I've humiliated myself

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<v Speaker 2>Of Oh, I'm sorry you humiliated yourself. No, no, no, because

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<v Speaker 2>you were making another point besides, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I was going to talk about the Son of

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<v Speaker 1>God or the you know, the Theophany part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the no, here's what I was going to say

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<v Speaker 1>And so I drew a cartoon of this entire thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I drew like a stick figure, a comic book style.

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<v Speaker 3>It was one of my homework assignments.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was really cool, and I remember how it

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<v Speaker 1>ended too, And he says, I decree today, and then

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<v Speaker 1>your God is okay.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really funny. But anyway, all I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Is I drew it in such a way to where

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<v Speaker 1>he was looking down and seeing all four people, and

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<v Speaker 1>I drew them in lounge chairs with coconut palm beach.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder, let me look it up in other translations

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<v Speaker 2>while you tell this piece and see if it's just.

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<v Speaker 4>Opening or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more of a generic phrase than just what this says.

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<v Speaker 3>But listen this though.

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<v Speaker 1>What I was going to say is is that we

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<v Speaker 1>We don't really know what the angel or the Son

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<v Speaker 1>of God, the supernatural being really was, right. So in

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<v Speaker 1>other words, he says in here this translation the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>one looks like a god. And then there's another translation

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<v Speaker 1>that says the son of a God, right right.

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<v Speaker 4>King James just says, looks like the son of God.

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<v Speaker 1>The son of God, right and so and so we

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<v Speaker 1>an appearance of Christ in the Old Testament, or it

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<v Speaker 1>was just perhaps an angel that looked like a son

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<v Speaker 1>of a God. That little g meaning like nebu Caner

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<v Speaker 1>would not know, right, But it's definitely clear that it's supernatural,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that they came out, and it actually

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<v Speaker 1>Their hair wasn't singed. To walk to walk in the

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<v Speaker 1>fire completely unharmed and not have your hair singed or

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<v Speaker 1>smell like smoke, it's pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>So you and I grew up on the King James.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes Bible right, yes, King James.

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<v Speaker 3>So that say about the door of the furnace and yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think you got your idea from this.

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<v Speaker 2>It says then nebu Canzer came near the mouth of

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<v Speaker 2>the burning fiery furnace.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah see, so yeah, in Bible College that is exactly.

427
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<v Speaker 2>So this is what you would have would have had,

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<v Speaker 2>is the mouth. Now almost all the other translations are

429
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<v Speaker 2>saying the door. Yes, but you're you're growing up and

430
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<v Speaker 2>learning the story, it just says mouth then leaves it

431
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<v Speaker 2>more open then.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it would have been literally the opening, the opening, the.

433
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<v Speaker 3>Opening of the furnace that he looked into.

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<v Speaker 4>So there you go.

435
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<v Speaker 2>I let you have to hook there, buddy, because I

436
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<v Speaker 2>was feeling bad about that man.

437
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<v Speaker 3>So there's a reason to believe that perhaps.

438
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<v Speaker 4>It could have been the way you were describing it.

439
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the door.

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<v Speaker 4>The bigger issue is the king could see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, a bunch of guys died. These three guys didn't.

442
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<v Speaker 2>And I love that it describes here that they were

443
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<v Speaker 2>wearing pants. Right, it was to say that he throws

444
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<v Speaker 2>them in there and they're wearing their Where does it

445
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<v Speaker 2>say so they tied them up through them in it

446
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<v Speaker 2>fully dressed and their pants and turbans and robes and

447
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<v Speaker 2>other garments.

448
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's your all flammable face to describe.

449
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<v Speaker 4>Like during pin Actually, we threw them in there with

450
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<v Speaker 4>all their kindling. Right, That's that's how you would have thought.

451
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<v Speaker 3>And that's incredible.

452
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<v Speaker 2>So they look you know, there's a there's a song

453
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<v Speaker 2>I used to love still do the Crab families to

454
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<v Speaker 2>sing it? Jason Krabb was the singer of his old

455
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<v Speaker 2>Southern gospel song, and it says that, uh, he never

456
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<v Speaker 2>promised that the cross would not get heavy or the

457
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<v Speaker 2>hill would not be hard to climb.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>He never offered a victory without fighting, but he'd always

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<v Speaker 2>show up right in time. But then the whole story

461
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<v Speaker 2>of the song is this story Sherry scheck in bed

462
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<v Speaker 2>and go and then he'll go, he'll uh, he'll go

463
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<v Speaker 2>through the fire with you is the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So God didn't promise that life wasn't was going to

466
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<v Speaker 2>be easy, right. He didn't say it was always going

467
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<v Speaker 2>to be mountaintops. He didn't say that every big decision

468
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<v Speaker 2>you needed to make was going to be a simple

469
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<v Speaker 2>decision with no big consequences. In this situation, it was

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<v Speaker 2>the most devastating thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise God would have just showed up and said no

473
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<v Speaker 1>and avoided the whole thing. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But his glory often is magnified when his people decide

475
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<v Speaker 2>to do the right thing and then He shows up

476
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<v Speaker 2>just in time to take them through it.

477
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<v Speaker 4>Right.

478
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because that's how faith has played out in our lives.

479
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<v Speaker 1>So if God asks us to make the hard decisions

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, to stand up, to say no to

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong, to resist temptation, to live in faith, to

482
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<v Speaker 1>give right, to give up our time, resources are volunteerism,

483
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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, make the choice to stand on morality.

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<v Speaker 3>All of those things require faith first. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It reminds me of when he says, hey, step into

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<v Speaker 1>the Jordan river and then I'll part the river.

487
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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember when they're crossing the Jordan and they're holding and

489
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<v Speaker 1>they're holding the arc and if they touch it. They're

490
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<v Speaker 1>going to die and the Jordan River's raging, and he says,

491
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<v Speaker 1>step into it. It's like, no, we're gonna step first.

492
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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to part the waters first. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>ask you to take a step of faith. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of what it is. But again, this is even

495
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<v Speaker 1>different than that because there's no direct command. Shad wreck me,

496
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<v Speaker 1>Scheck and Bendigo just see the golden image, they see

497
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<v Speaker 1>their situation. There's not a warning of exactly what to do.

498
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<v Speaker 1>They just know I'm not doing what's wrong, and they

499
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<v Speaker 1>just decide we're not doing it. And and here's another

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<v Speaker 1>thing I love.

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<v Speaker 3>I love how when when they come out.

502
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<v Speaker 1>It says that immediately Shad wrecked Me, Scheck and Bendigo said,

503
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<v Speaker 1>there's no other God that could be rescued like this.

504
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<v Speaker 3>So think about this. There's a whole sermon in there.

505
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<v Speaker 3>There's a whole sermon in there.

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<v Speaker 1>That says, when other people see God in our lives,

507
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<v Speaker 1>they are amazed, and they could be, they could be,

508
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<v Speaker 1>they could do a one eighty because because you know,

509
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<v Speaker 1>after all, have you ever met a person that you're

510
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<v Speaker 1>absolutely amazed that God has done these incredible things in

511
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<v Speaker 1>their lives, and you're like, that's almost miraculous, right. And

512
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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's as simple as them being able to love

513
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<v Speaker 1>and forgive in a situation where nobody else can, right,

514
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<v Speaker 1>Or sometimes it's miraculous circumstantially, or sometimes it's beyond coincidence.

515
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<v Speaker 3>But there are people who are non.

516
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<v Speaker 1>Believers who will turn, you know, and you would never

517
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<v Speaker 1>guess they would turn. Who would ever guess that that

518
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<v Speaker 1>same king who says.

519
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<v Speaker 4>Bow down because I got the power is going.

520
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<v Speaker 3>To turn around and say, let me tell you about

521
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<v Speaker 3>this God? Right?

522
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<v Speaker 1>Who would ever guess? And it's because they see kisaw

523
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<v Speaker 1>God work in their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I was getting at when I was

525
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<v Speaker 2>saying that, you know, God is sometimes more glorified in

526
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<v Speaker 2>his people going through the difficult thing with him and

527
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<v Speaker 2>coming out on the other side, and everybody else goes, Wow, God,

528
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they made it through that, but

529
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<v Speaker 2>their God brought them through it, right, And so that's

530
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<v Speaker 2>I think we're saying the same thing there. But then

531
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<v Speaker 2>what happens as a result of this These young men

532
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<v Speaker 2>who could not know what was going to happen, they

533
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<v Speaker 2>believed God could rescue them. They hoped God to rescue them.

534
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<v Speaker 2>They didn't know he would rescue them. Then God shows up,

535
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<v Speaker 2>they get a miracle. That's pretty cool, But I think

536
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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty clear the miracles not just for them. Right,

537
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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times our prayers for miracles are for us,

538
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<v Speaker 2>our comfort, our wants, our sadness, our joy, that's what

539
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<v Speaker 2>that's usually how we pray. In this situation, the miracle

540
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<v Speaker 2>saved them, but I think it was for the kingdom.

541
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<v Speaker 2>Right now, they benefited, but it was to get the

542
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<v Speaker 2>attention to the king. It was to get the attention

543
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<v Speaker 2>of all these people. He set up a ninety foot statue. Dude,

544
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<v Speaker 2>it was telling the whole country you have to worship this.

545
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<v Speaker 2>And by the end of this little story, he goes on,

546
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<v Speaker 2>never mind, this God is really impressive. Right, nobody gets

547
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<v Speaker 2>to say anything bad about this God. And everybody knew

548
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<v Speaker 2>that it was God. So it was bigger than just

549
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<v Speaker 2>the three, That's what I'm saying. And there's a bigger

550
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<v Speaker 2>story happening in your life, and you are a part

551
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<v Speaker 2>of a bigger story. God's story is bigger.

552
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<v Speaker 4>Than any one of our stories.

553
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<v Speaker 2>So then when our needs align with his needs in

554
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<v Speaker 2>his glory, that's when we see incredible miracles, and so

555
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<v Speaker 2>they chose to do the right thing, and God rescued them.

556
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<v Speaker 2>And then when it's all done, it says in verse thirty,

557
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<v Speaker 2>then the king promoted Shadrack Mesheck and they had to

558
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<v Speaker 2>go to even higher positions of the province of Babylon.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've thought a lot about that. Why it's not

560
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<v Speaker 2>that he owed them anything, right, he didn't know the manything. Hey,

561
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<v Speaker 2>congratulations you lived.

562
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<v Speaker 4>They were all right?

563
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<v Speaker 3>Right?

564
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<v Speaker 4>What can he offer them that's better than what just

565
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<v Speaker 4>happened to them?

566
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

567
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<v Speaker 2>Right, And these guys are powerful men now in the kingdom. Wow,

568
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<v Speaker 2>they can't be killed apparently so. And they were already rulers,

569
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<v Speaker 2>they were already leaders. But now he moves them to

570
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<v Speaker 2>higher positions. I think it's because he knew he could

571
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<v Speaker 2>trust them. Yeah, their integrity is through the roof. We

572
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<v Speaker 2>will do what we say, we will do at any cost.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And if they serve a god that is so powerful,

574
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<v Speaker 1>then hey, better to have that God on your side.

575
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<v Speaker 1>Right with your guys, because they're my guys. Is what

576
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<v Speaker 1>Sid or maybe kid is. We're saying, Hey, one last thing,

577
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<v Speaker 1>because any of our time's coming up. That statue had

578
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<v Speaker 1>to have been a architectural marvel. Ninety feet it's only

579
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<v Speaker 1>nine feet wide and it stay stall. Yeah, I mean wow,

580
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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty good construction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, aggressive side and then one last little thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's there's real strength and friendship, right. Yeah,

583
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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty cool that they didn't have to go through

584
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<v Speaker 2>it alone. That's true, and so I'm glad you're my friend, buddy.

585
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<v Speaker 3>Hey, there it is.

586
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<v Speaker 4>There we go.

587
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<v Speaker 2>There's the application. I think The Bible Guys is better.

588
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<v Speaker 2>It'd be weird if if the show is called The

589
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<v Speaker 2>Bible Guys and.

590
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<v Speaker 3>There's only one of us or the Bible Guy. Yeah,

591
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<v Speaker 3>it's not so the Loan Bible Guys like.

592
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<v Speaker 1>The Twin Pines mall. It goes down to the Loan

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<v Speaker 1>Pine mall. Right, anybody, no, you don't know No, back

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<v Speaker 1>to the future. Oh okay, sorry, another movie referenced. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that is our time, and so we will pick it

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<v Speaker 1>up with Daniel the next time and hopefully we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>then on the bubble gush