WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.049 --> 00:00:02.660 James: Welcome back to behind the madness where we talk about business 00:00:02.660 --> 00:00:07.190 growth, ways to work smarter and the fundamentals of business, all geared to 00:00:07.190 --> 00:00:08.930 unlocking your brand's peak performance. 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:13.520 I'm your host James Roberts, owner and founder of Method, and today I am joined 00:00:13.520 --> 00:00:17.510 again by Jamie, where we're going to talk about wellbeing within business. 00:00:17.560 --> 00:00:21.250 But before we jump in I wanted to let you all know about ways that 00:00:21.250 --> 00:00:22.540 you can connect with the show. 00:00:22.930 --> 00:00:26.110 So obviously at the moment, we've got some great content going on Instagram, 00:00:26.680 --> 00:00:29.690 where you can find us at @hello_method. 00:00:29.900 --> 00:00:32.930 But we've also introduced a new email that we introduced, I think last time on the 00:00:32.930 --> 00:00:38.510 pod, which is podcast@hellomethod.co.uk, you can give us any feedback, ask 00:00:38.510 --> 00:00:42.379 any questions, and we will try to answer them on future episodes. 00:00:42.739 --> 00:00:47.884 So with all of that out the way let's jump on in with wellbeing in your business. 00:00:53.239 --> 00:00:54.059 Welcome back Jamie. 00:00:54.649 --> 00:00:55.979 Jamie: Hi, James, always a pleasure. 00:00:56.389 --> 00:00:57.139 James: Always. 00:00:57.469 --> 00:01:02.059 a pleasure, so for those of you that didn't know, and we all do here. 00:01:02.449 --> 00:01:06.079 So Jamie used to, uh, obviously look after the, the gym manager. 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:07.099 I think David Lloyd. 00:01:07.699 --> 00:01:08.599 Jamie: Lead coach. 00:01:08.749 --> 00:01:13.069 James: So we thought, obviously I love a bit of wellbeing, uh, anyway, 00:01:13.189 --> 00:01:16.249 and looking after kind of my body as well as I can, until I slip 00:01:16.339 --> 00:01:17.389 and we have pizza with the kids. 00:01:17.899 --> 00:01:23.449 But thought wellbeing within the business would be a great place to start. 00:01:23.449 --> 00:01:25.549 I think everybody should be doing it, I think everybody's becoming 00:01:25.579 --> 00:01:28.609 more aware of being able to do it. 00:01:28.909 --> 00:01:30.169 What are your thoughts, Jamie? 00:01:30.169 --> 00:01:32.059 What are your thoughts about wellbeing within business? 00:01:32.569 --> 00:01:34.939 Jamie: I think it's a really interesting one because so many 00:01:34.939 --> 00:01:39.739 times in the past we've seen business owners or thought leaders as people 00:01:39.739 --> 00:01:41.059 who work themselves to the bones. 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:44.982 They want themselves to burn out and they don't really look after themselves, 00:01:45.012 --> 00:01:47.962 they look after their businesses and this is what they see as either 00:01:47.982 --> 00:01:49.722 getting ahead what they need to do. 00:01:50.622 --> 00:01:55.122 But now, as you said, the awareness by looking after your body, looking 00:01:55.122 --> 00:01:58.182 after nutrition, making sure you're moving, making sure we mindsets 00:01:58.292 --> 00:02:01.392 in, we've seen the growth of the awareness around mental health. 00:02:01.872 --> 00:02:05.562 And that comes through stress, depression, anxiety, how you're 00:02:05.562 --> 00:02:09.222 working through your days, your sleep patterns, all of these things. 00:02:09.792 --> 00:02:14.892 It is wellbeing, which is why health and fitness has become less and 00:02:14.892 --> 00:02:18.612 wellbeing has become more the tagline because fitness has always been, oh 00:02:18.612 --> 00:02:19.722 well yeah, you don't go to the gym. 00:02:19.722 --> 00:02:22.392 We don't run 10 kilometers actually wellbeing 00:02:22.442 --> 00:02:23.102 James: More of a thing. 00:02:23.102 --> 00:02:27.572 Yeah, we've also got a guest lined up who's going to talk a bit about the 00:02:27.572 --> 00:02:31.282 nutritional angles, which is great because that's something I know a little bit 00:02:31.282 --> 00:02:33.802 about, but always looking to improve. 00:02:33.802 --> 00:02:35.672 So that's going to be good in a couple of weeks, hopefully we're going to get 00:02:35.672 --> 00:02:38.012 we're going to get that guest on, but. 00:02:38.062 --> 00:02:39.832 Jamie: You're gonna sneek peek that you're gonna, oh, you're 00:02:39.862 --> 00:02:41.452 going to keep it in suspense. 00:02:41.452 --> 00:02:42.262 James: Might never happen. 00:02:42.352 --> 00:02:42.832 Jamie: That's true. 00:02:43.672 --> 00:02:44.812 James: So there's always that. 00:02:44.812 --> 00:02:45.562 Jamie: Dangle the carrot. 00:02:46.102 --> 00:02:48.492 James: Exactly, and if we don't get that person, then we might find somebody else. 00:02:48.522 --> 00:02:49.872 So if I, if I drop names. 00:02:50.112 --> 00:02:51.252 Jamie: So if you do want. 00:02:51.252 --> 00:02:55.242 something on nutrition as a business owner flood the comments because 00:02:55.302 --> 00:02:56.532 then the person will have no choice. 00:02:56.982 --> 00:03:00.492 James: You got some questions then, though, at podcast@hellomethod.co.uk, 00:03:00.522 --> 00:03:01.992 and we'll try and get those to the guest. 00:03:02.322 --> 00:03:04.212 Um, but I think you're absolutely right. 00:03:04.212 --> 00:03:08.042 I think, uh, the, the whole kind of fitness angle was, shall we just go 00:03:08.042 --> 00:03:09.852 to the gym, get a bit of gym work in. 00:03:10.102 --> 00:03:13.042 But now I think there are so many, as you said, sleep, 00:03:13.252 --> 00:03:15.432 there is, uh, that meant mental 00:03:15.922 --> 00:03:18.802 Jamie: So, what, what do you think James are the key areas? 00:03:18.852 --> 00:03:22.602 Everyone knows exercise and nutrition, they know of them, but what are the 00:03:22.602 --> 00:03:27.882 areas like you're very conscious of how you work as a human, which allows you 00:03:27.882 --> 00:03:29.592 to perform better as a business owner. 00:03:30.012 --> 00:03:33.132 What areas do you think, obviously, exercise and nutrition are two 00:03:33.132 --> 00:03:33.312 James: Yeah, 00:03:34.152 --> 00:03:35.922 for me, it's got to be sleep. 00:03:36.222 --> 00:03:37.572 I think if I don't 00:03:37.666 --> 00:03:38.606 Jamie: Is that why we never see you. 00:03:38.692 --> 00:03:40.282 James: Rest, then let's put it as rest. 00:03:40.852 --> 00:03:41.512 We all know what it's like. 00:03:41.512 --> 00:03:44.352 If you don't get a good night's sleep, you feel it the next day. 00:03:44.592 --> 00:03:48.792 So on top of nutrition, on top of that whole kind of exercise that you're getting 00:03:48.792 --> 00:03:52.009 in it's so detrimental to your day. 00:03:52.089 --> 00:03:53.379 Sleep is different for everybody. 00:03:53.379 --> 00:03:56.195 Everybody says about the eight hours, but for me, I think it was a little bit. 00:03:56.289 --> 00:04:01.109 Jamie: That's what Bezos does, Bezos really says eight hours is one of 00:04:01.109 --> 00:04:03.899 the key things in my working day. 00:04:04.229 --> 00:04:06.429 And I think we can all agree like he's done ok for himself. 00:04:06.449 --> 00:04:07.169 James: Yeah. 00:04:07.349 --> 00:04:12.389 But I know people who can perform well on six, seven hours. 00:04:12.579 --> 00:04:13.659 Again, it's the quality of the sleep. 00:04:13.659 --> 00:04:15.519 If You're getting eight hours, but you're getting a kid who's coming 00:04:15.519 --> 00:04:19.899 in every 30 seconds and waking you up, then you need 35 hours, you're 00:04:19.929 --> 00:04:20.739 still not going to get it back. 00:04:20.889 --> 00:04:21.909 Jamie: Quality over quantity. 00:04:21.969 --> 00:04:22.329 James: Exactly. 00:04:22.329 --> 00:04:24.009 And then the sleep debt that comes into it. 00:04:24.009 --> 00:04:27.429 So if you are, if you've had one bad night's sleep. 00:04:27.899 --> 00:04:30.359 You're going to have to sleep a bit more, rest a bit more, even 00:04:30.359 --> 00:04:31.769 take something out of your day. 00:04:32.189 --> 00:04:33.749 And I think it's the same. 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:37.649 Jamie: So many people go, they kind of go, I slept four I'll sleep 12 00:04:37.649 --> 00:04:39.749 tomorrow and it doesn't work like that. 00:04:39.779 --> 00:04:42.449 Let your body just does not work like that unfortunately. 00:04:42.659 --> 00:04:44.466 James: Being able to break away. 00:04:44.466 --> 00:04:47.286 So luckily, obviously where we came from with the graphic design, you always hear 00:04:47.286 --> 00:04:50.586 about this, oh, I'm really struggling to get any ideas, and walk away from your 00:04:50.586 --> 00:04:52.356 desk and go and find something else to do. 00:04:52.896 --> 00:04:56.246 And I think that almost has to come into this rest idea as well, if you're 00:04:56.246 --> 00:05:01.196 feeling depleted, and it doesn't have to be rest sleep, it has to be removing 00:05:01.196 --> 00:05:06.896 yourself from that process, that job, the activity that you're doing and recharge, 00:05:06.896 --> 00:05:08.126 and that could be going for a walk. 00:05:08.176 --> 00:05:11.836 Try not to go into social media cause I still think that's just, again, 00:05:11.836 --> 00:05:15.946 Jamie: it's Well, I think it's something like 95% of people the 00:05:15.946 --> 00:05:20.506 first thing they do when they are the get into bed or when they wake up in 00:05:20.506 --> 00:05:21.856 the morning is reach for the phone. 00:05:22.246 --> 00:05:25.396 Inevitably it's either going to be emails or social media they're jumping. 00:05:26.226 --> 00:05:29.476 I read something the other day, which was really interesting and it was in Jay 00:05:29.476 --> 00:05:36.106 Shetty's book and it was all about how you wouldn't, for example, go from zero 00:05:36.106 --> 00:05:38.056 to a hundred when you get on a treadmill. 00:05:38.476 --> 00:05:42.376 So why do we do it to our minds when we wake up and suddenly you're flooded 00:05:42.376 --> 00:05:47.236 with what the latest Kardashian is saying, or you're seeing an influencer 00:05:47.236 --> 00:05:51.706 travel around world and see one of these trends that James absoloutly loves. 00:05:51.746 --> 00:05:52.296 James: Love a trend. 00:05:52.646 --> 00:05:56.506 I think we all, we've all done it, everybody's done it. 00:05:57.166 --> 00:06:02.546 But I think waking up slowly and adjusting I've mentioned before about my lovely 00:06:02.546 --> 00:06:07.166 power hour, that you know I do where I wake up and I will slowly get into doing 00:06:07.166 --> 00:06:11.156 things when nobody else is up what I might do a bit where yoga, I might do a bit of 00:06:11.156 --> 00:06:15.146 meditation, I might do some journaling, whatever, but I'm slowly waking up getting 00:06:15.146 --> 00:06:16.646 ready for that day and building on it. 00:06:16.976 --> 00:06:19.856 And then what I tend to do is then after I've done that after I've had a 00:06:19.856 --> 00:06:24.266 cup of tea after I'm ready, I will then go through my emails, so when I do hit 00:06:24.266 --> 00:06:27.876 the desk at nine after I drop the kids I'm ready for that day then to start 00:06:27.876 --> 00:06:28.866 whatever it's going to throw at me. 00:06:29.106 --> 00:06:31.776 But again, you know, So I think so I think rest. 00:06:32.046 --> 00:06:35.616 Jamie: I'm just going to jump on you there, James, because whoever anyone who's 00:06:35.616 --> 00:06:39.546 new to the pod, or maybe haven't heard it before obviously you've even labelled 00:06:39.546 --> 00:06:43.686 it your power hour in the morning, and obviously that's almost your day set up. 00:06:43.896 --> 00:06:46.746 So That's your morning routine, which we hear a lot about nowadays. 00:06:46.836 --> 00:06:49.646 Talk me through that because that could be really useful for other business owners. 00:06:49.746 --> 00:06:52.356 James: It all started from I think I read a book which was called 00:06:52.356 --> 00:06:53.766 Rest, which I've mentioned before. 00:06:54.036 --> 00:06:58.056 Um, and it was around this idea that you can be much more productive 00:06:58.056 --> 00:07:01.146 in that, in that area, especially kind of creativity as well. 00:07:01.176 --> 00:07:04.656 You're still apparently, and somebody will correct me, no doubt on an 00:07:04.656 --> 00:07:09.426 email shortly after I say this, but you're still kind of in two worlds. 00:07:09.426 --> 00:07:12.116 If you like your brain isn't fully woken up. 00:07:12.246 --> 00:07:13.436 Jamie: In a dream state kind 00:07:13.586 --> 00:07:13.976 James: Exactly. 00:07:14.036 --> 00:07:17.066 So you can see your brain can certainly for creative. 00:07:17.096 --> 00:07:19.946 You're still in that a lot of writers do it very, very early because 00:07:19.946 --> 00:07:20.876 they can get everything flowing. 00:07:21.386 --> 00:07:28.346 Um, But I think for me, it's more, I can kind of have my time without my kids as 00:07:28.346 --> 00:07:32.702 bad as that sounds it's me, it's my time to, as I said, I'll tend to and I'll 00:07:32.732 --> 00:07:35.622 mix it up sometimes I'll do a bit of a workout sometimes I just don't feel a 00:07:35.622 --> 00:07:38.232 million dollars so I will do some yoga. 00:07:38.292 --> 00:07:42.102 I'll wake my body up, I might even just take five minutes to do a kind of quick 00:07:42.102 --> 00:07:44.532 meditation, which then for me focuses me. 00:07:44.532 --> 00:07:47.022 When I finished my meditation, I kind of have a better focus. 00:07:47.292 --> 00:07:48.162 Where I can think, right. 00:07:48.192 --> 00:07:51.792 I need to achieve this and again it's a meditation and journaling where I can 00:07:52.332 --> 00:07:56.712 focus on what I need to achieve that day and then I'm ready to go and do it. 00:07:56.742 --> 00:08:01.262 But as a sideline to that, I've still got time in that morning hour, 00:08:01.292 --> 00:08:04.682 where I can clear off everything and check everything off that I might 00:08:04.682 --> 00:08:06.512 not have achieved the day before. 00:08:06.812 --> 00:08:11.912 So I am then ready to then when everybody wakes up, they have the breakfast I can 00:08:11.912 --> 00:08:14.162 then spend family time, I've had a chunk. 00:08:14.462 --> 00:08:17.132 I'm then almost resting again because I'm then going to go walk the kids to 00:08:17.132 --> 00:08:21.752 school and I'm going to come back again, I've done a huge amount, but I'm fresh 00:08:22.112 --> 00:08:24.482 and ready to go from that clean slate. 00:08:24.632 --> 00:08:29.522 Jamie: It's that set up and I think it is odd because we put so much emphasis on 00:08:29.822 --> 00:08:32.102 as a society on new year's resolutions. 00:08:32.642 --> 00:08:35.702 But we don't do day resolutions which is so odd. 00:08:36.092 --> 00:08:40.052 Whereas by adopting something like that, you're almost saying okay in 00:08:40.052 --> 00:08:45.122 the year I want to learn the guitar, but then today I want to learn 00:08:45.122 --> 00:08:47.182 two new chords which after a year. 00:08:47.182 --> 00:08:48.962 James: Breaking it down How'd you eat an elephant 00:08:49.382 --> 00:08:50.162 Jamie: Yeah, exactly. 00:08:50.462 --> 00:08:50.972 Illegally. 00:08:51.462 --> 00:08:55.292 James: If you've ever worked in an organization as well I work with we're 00:08:55.322 --> 00:08:58.982 slightly separate here, where we are kind of all remote anyway but if you 00:08:58.982 --> 00:09:02.792 worked at any business, you will tend to start work at nine o'clock and we've 00:09:02.792 --> 00:09:06.572 all had it, everybody arrives at nine then you go make your coffee, then 00:09:06.572 --> 00:09:08.942 you're going to have the chat about what happened in the football and before, 00:09:08.972 --> 00:09:11.132 you know it it's 10 o'clock and then you think, well, do you know what, maybe 00:09:11.132 --> 00:09:14.582 it's time for another cup of coffee now because it's mid morning or 10 :30. 00:09:15.032 --> 00:09:18.752 So me being able to kind of clear everything off and get all of that 00:09:18.812 --> 00:09:23.402 processes done, we have a little bit of a banter on Slack, but I think the way we're 00:09:23.402 --> 00:09:28.052 set up that almost goes on the one screen almost as you're still working away. 00:09:28.622 --> 00:09:31.352 Um, and I think we're all very good at concentrating on what we 00:09:31.352 --> 00:09:33.542 need to do, but still having that. 00:09:33.722 --> 00:09:36.722 So what I'm getting around to is when you, when you kind of do get to work 00:09:36.932 --> 00:09:39.332 and you're going through all of those things that you need to clear off 00:09:39.692 --> 00:09:42.002 then you might sit at your desk at 10 o'clock after you've had the chat or 00:09:42.002 --> 00:09:44.492 whatever, then you're going to clear up your emails, half of your productive 00:09:44.522 --> 00:09:46.432 morning has whizzed you by, it's gone. 00:09:46.842 --> 00:09:49.392 So I think for me anyway a business owner, you know, if you're 00:09:49.392 --> 00:09:50.712 working nine to five, that is it. 00:09:51.052 --> 00:09:55.522 But I have to just get everything tucked away so I can start again because as 00:09:55.552 --> 00:09:57.232 well, my day is never the same anyway. 00:09:57.232 --> 00:10:00.562 Jamie: Yeah, and I think a lot of the people we aim to help, whether they're 00:10:00.562 --> 00:10:04.582 business owners, marketing departments and teams will have found themselves 00:10:04.582 --> 00:10:09.442 in a, in a very similar situation with mainly working remotely because a lot 00:10:09.442 --> 00:10:11.542 of it's digital in the post COVID era. 00:10:11.812 --> 00:10:15.292 So I think it's very applicable for them, so we looked at that we've got 00:10:15.322 --> 00:10:20.032 nutrition and exercise, you've got some recovery with sleep, recovery rest. 00:10:20.402 --> 00:10:24.092 This mindset in there spoke about journalling some meditation kind of 00:10:24.092 --> 00:10:28.202 really almost mentally ticking off things, and they are four kind of 00:10:28.202 --> 00:10:35.332 really huge pillars because I think as and I will take the daycare of 00:10:35.392 --> 00:10:36.982 I'm the younger one on the team. 00:10:37.082 --> 00:10:40.442 Whereas mindset probably wasn't as big when you were my age, whereas 00:10:40.442 --> 00:10:44.372 it's got a lot more awareness and this isn't due to mental health becoming, 00:10:44.942 --> 00:10:48.242 Uh, having much more science behind it, and having much more awareness, 00:10:48.542 --> 00:10:52.112 but it's also competing where you're seeing top athletes, business owners, 00:10:52.112 --> 00:10:55.292 and it's cascading down to every day. 00:10:55.292 --> 00:10:58.832 James: It's mad that it's had to happen for it to be a thing 00:10:58.832 --> 00:11:01.532 Jamie: Well, you think all the negative things that have happened where 00:11:01.532 --> 00:11:05.282 it's like high suicide rates, high depression, rates, anxiety, all of that. 00:11:05.462 --> 00:11:07.202 We've actually turned around and gone, wait a minute. 00:11:07.202 --> 00:11:11.612 We've been curling barbells was for our biceps for a hundreds of 00:11:11.612 --> 00:11:14.472 years, but we haven't actually thought about working the mind. 00:11:14.622 --> 00:11:15.272 James: Training your mind. 00:11:15.622 --> 00:11:18.502 I think that's gotta be something as well, that goes forward as certainly in business 00:11:18.502 --> 00:11:22.852 and business owners have to recognize it because if you are a member of staff who 00:11:22.852 --> 00:11:26.872 is struggling then you're not going to be the one who's going to put your hand up. 00:11:26.992 --> 00:11:31.342 It has to come and filter that way down and You have to create an organization 00:11:31.372 --> 00:11:34.972 and I hope we've got it here where people can go I need five minutes, I need to 00:11:34.972 --> 00:11:40.792 be able to, I need to just, I want a day and that is, it's not, you know it's 00:11:40.792 --> 00:11:42.392 not I've broken my leg, I need a day. 00:11:42.422 --> 00:11:46.982 It can be anything, it's a hard place to get within an organization 00:11:46.982 --> 00:11:50.582 where people can feel comfortable enough to go, I need a break. 00:11:50.882 --> 00:11:55.082 Jamie: And I think that really nails What I would consider the fifth and 00:11:55.082 --> 00:11:58.862 final piece of overall wellbeing, and that's the social aspect. 00:11:59.162 --> 00:12:03.002 Humans are connected creatures, you go back thousands of years 00:12:03.032 --> 00:12:04.202 and people have that tribe. 00:12:04.562 --> 00:12:07.712 It's become a phrase, again on kind of social media you have your tribe, 00:12:07.712 --> 00:12:11.642 your community, you have that social aspect and I think a lot of people 00:12:11.642 --> 00:12:13.802 missed that during covid they couldn't see their friends or couldn't see 00:12:13.802 --> 00:12:15.902 their family, they couldn't touch base. 00:12:16.292 --> 00:12:20.882 So I think having those five elements of nutrition, exercise, 00:12:20.942 --> 00:12:25.862 mindset, rest and recovery and social really make up the human wellbeing. 00:12:26.012 --> 00:12:31.472 And it doesn't matter how about changes in terms of if you are Elon Musk and 00:12:31.472 --> 00:12:36.392 you are jetting between the Space X and Tesla and, uh, and The Boring Company 00:12:36.392 --> 00:12:41.372 in all of these companies, or you have just started your company on Etsy. 00:12:41.912 --> 00:12:43.832 You are still made up of the same thing. 00:12:43.832 --> 00:12:46.982 So you still need to look after those components of your life. 00:12:47.462 --> 00:12:51.508 James to finish this one off, I know you love being put on the spot. 00:12:52.862 --> 00:12:53.342 Love it. 00:12:54.122 --> 00:12:59.522 If someone could walk away with five action points, to look after 00:12:59.522 --> 00:13:01.112 that wellbeing a little bit more. 00:13:01.922 --> 00:13:02.612 What would they be? 00:13:02.612 --> 00:13:04.862 And these are going to be quick fire, anyone who knows James 00:13:04.862 --> 00:13:05.852 knows when I'm talking about. 00:13:06.032 --> 00:13:08.102 James: So quick-fire sleep. 00:13:08.342 --> 00:13:09.542 Remove your phones at night. 00:13:10.442 --> 00:13:13.472 Uh, so a good tip for the sleep. 00:13:13.532 --> 00:13:16.052 Turn off your notifications, I have mine set at about nine o'clock, 00:13:16.412 --> 00:13:20.162 everything goes off, yeah, exactly that I don't have any numbers cause 00:13:20.162 --> 00:13:22.712 as you know, my OCD will kick in I'll have to get rid of numbers on anything. 00:13:22.712 --> 00:13:25.712 So all my numbers and everything disappears on my, on my phone. 00:13:25.862 --> 00:13:27.692 Jamie: Which again, taps into the mental side of things. 00:13:27.772 --> 00:13:29.332 James: Yep So I can slowly wind down. 00:13:29.332 --> 00:13:31.072 So that wind down is massively important. 00:13:31.432 --> 00:13:34.042 Um, so I think that's kind of, it's almost a one and a two. 00:13:34.472 --> 00:13:36.212 But sleep, rest, recovery. 00:13:36.542 --> 00:13:40.952 I think then look after your, I think, understand yourself a little bit and I 00:13:40.952 --> 00:13:45.392 do this through my mindfulness through, um, taking five, being battered all 00:13:45.392 --> 00:13:48.302 day, step back and understand yourself. 00:13:48.302 --> 00:13:52.112 So know where you're under pressure Yeah, exactly that. 00:13:52.112 --> 00:13:52.202 Yeah. 00:13:52.202 --> 00:13:52.532 Yeah, yeah. 00:13:52.592 --> 00:13:52.802 Yeah. 00:13:52.922 --> 00:13:57.932 So I think being able to understand yourself helps you grow, but also 00:13:57.932 --> 00:14:00.242 understand when you do need breaks. 00:14:00.272 --> 00:14:01.502 We'll all good at working through. 00:14:01.682 --> 00:14:07.082 Jamie: We I imagine that helps step away from, all day every day we compare 00:14:07.082 --> 00:14:10.652 ourselves to other people on social media on digital stuff like that. 00:14:10.802 --> 00:14:13.532 So by being able to turn around and go, actually, do you know what now? 00:14:13.532 --> 00:14:14.922 I'm Jamie and this is what I'm about. 00:14:14.922 --> 00:14:18.842 James: Hundred percent So I think so I think that which ties then nicely into, 00:14:18.842 --> 00:14:23.352 obviously if we're doing an audit of ourselves, I think being able to, being 00:14:23.352 --> 00:14:27.942 able to understand yourself as we said, but also knowing when to step away. 00:14:28.332 --> 00:14:31.392 So we're all very good at continuing forward, as I said. 00:14:31.392 --> 00:14:34.682 So, also just stepping away giving don't think that you have to work yourself 00:14:34.712 --> 00:14:36.872 through you're okay to leave something. 00:14:37.502 --> 00:14:41.012 Even, even if there's a massive deadline, if you're struggling, 00:14:41.252 --> 00:14:42.272 you're not going to hit it. 00:14:42.782 --> 00:14:44.912 And sometimes taking that five minutes is going to make you 00:14:44.912 --> 00:14:45.992 come back stronger, fitter. 00:14:46.052 --> 00:14:48.762 Jamie: And I think, I think I'm going to add something, I did say we were 00:14:48.762 --> 00:14:51.632 quick fire on this, but I'm going to add something to that is with that 00:14:51.632 --> 00:14:56.762 step away being able to afford yourself that time but also when you're doing 00:14:56.762 --> 00:14:59.312 that reflection be nice to yourself. 00:15:00.572 --> 00:15:02.972 Because so many people don't and, and you will 00:15:03.182 --> 00:15:04.632 James: We're all so negative to each other 00:15:05.312 --> 00:15:05.662 Jamie: Yeah 00:15:05.802 --> 00:15:06.542 James: Should've done that better 00:15:06.602 --> 00:15:12.032 Jamie: Yeah Like if, if moments, one of my favorite phrases is Yesterday is gone, 00:15:12.242 --> 00:15:15.842 tomorrow may never come, today is a gift that's why they call it the present. 00:15:16.442 --> 00:15:16.862 James: Yeah Yeah. 00:15:17.312 --> 00:15:21.282 I think the one which I, which I heard was around if you do one thing, if you, 00:15:21.282 --> 00:15:25.242 sorry, if you do six things really, really well, and one thing badly. 00:15:25.632 --> 00:15:28.092 You'll kill yourself over that one thing you did badly and you'll 00:15:28.122 --> 00:15:29.202 forget about the other six things. 00:15:29.352 --> 00:15:31.032 And it's, it is very, very true. 00:15:31.452 --> 00:15:32.952 Uh, well, my on three, four 00:15:33.642 --> 00:15:34.862 Jamie: You're on four, this is four 00:15:35.082 --> 00:15:36.462 James: Hydration simple. 00:15:36.792 --> 00:15:37.482 Get the water in. 00:15:38.119 --> 00:15:38.889 Jamie: Reaching for the water 00:15:38.904 --> 00:15:40.464 James: Both grabbed for a water bottles. 00:15:40.854 --> 00:15:46.314 Always hydrate and lastly, which I think will tie us on lovely into the, into a 00:15:46.314 --> 00:15:48.414 podcast which is coming soon, nutrition. 00:15:48.744 --> 00:15:50.544 I think yeah, massively. 00:15:50.774 --> 00:15:54.494 I'm no expert, which is why we're going to get somebody on to talk to us about it. 00:15:54.854 --> 00:15:59.594 Um, but educate yourself a little bit around what should be, 00:15:59.624 --> 00:16:00.974 shouldn't be putting in your body. 00:16:01.254 --> 00:16:04.494 Jamie: Go and read Food, what the fuck should I eat? 00:16:04.494 --> 00:16:04.944 James: Yeah 00:16:06.444 --> 00:16:06.714 Yeah. 00:16:06.964 --> 00:16:07.744 Jamie: By dr. 00:16:07.744 --> 00:16:08.584 Mark Hyman. 00:16:09.064 --> 00:16:13.384 Yeah, incredible read a really eye-opening but also very interesting. 00:16:14.404 --> 00:16:15.784 James: Uh, so I think. 00:16:15.874 --> 00:16:17.284 Jamie: What are the five mate can you remember? 00:16:17.364 --> 00:16:22.164 James: I can remember, nutrition, yeah, hydration, Uh, rest, 00:16:22.614 --> 00:16:24.534 audit yourself, and step away. 00:16:24.534 --> 00:16:26.214 Jamie: What happened to sleep. 00:16:26.814 --> 00:16:29.444 James: Rest Uh I did drop rest in 00:16:29.444 --> 00:16:29.904 Jamie: Okay Cool 00:16:30.114 --> 00:16:33.384 James: Uh, let's call that a wrap, Jamie. 00:16:33.414 --> 00:16:36.534 Thanks again for chatting, I thought that was really good. 00:16:36.834 --> 00:16:41.004 If you've enjoyed it podcast@hellomethod.co.uk. 00:16:41.034 --> 00:16:43.434 We're always going to answer any questions and anything you want to 00:16:43.434 --> 00:16:44.844 hear and know that you didn't like. 00:16:45.204 --> 00:16:49.364 Uh, I'll give you Paul's email address, um, but anyway 00:16:49.364 --> 00:16:50.244 Jamie: He's busy editing. 00:16:50.574 --> 00:16:50.874 James: Yeah. 00:16:51.024 --> 00:16:51.414 Oh God. 00:16:51.444 --> 00:16:51.564 Yeah 00:16:51.664 --> 00:16:52.984 . 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