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Victoria Meyer: Hi, this is Victoria
Meyer, welcome back to the chemical show

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where chemicals means business today.

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I'm bringing you the second of
short episode, bringing you some

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nuggets of insights from day two
of the chemical summit, which was

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held on October 8th and ninth.

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Day two of the summit focused
on customers, relationships,

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and global economics.

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So we had a number of great speakers.

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In fact, the feedback that we got
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Transformational.

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leadership and your business forward.

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So as I said, day two of the
summit focused on customers,

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relationships, and markets.

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We started with Melina Palmer,
who is a behavioral economist

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and CEO of the brainy business.

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She was talking about.

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Customer nudges and what your
customers want and can't tell you.

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Let me just tell you, she is a
dynamic and insightful speaker.

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So many nuggets.

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I'm only going to share one or two
with you today because frankly, um,

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the whole episode could be about that
and that's not my intent, but if you

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We ended with economist and
futurist Jason Shanker of Prestige

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Economics and Futurist Institute.

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So Jason discussed economics.

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Current and future state of global
economy geopolitics, what he calls the

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cold world, the cold war two, and what
the chemical industry needs to watch for.

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It was Intense, intense, that's how I
can really say, um, and in between we had

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some great speakers and panelists talking
about customers journey and customer

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segmentation, as well as the importance
of strategic business relationships.

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So, you know, on stage on day two
alone, we had something like, I don't

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know, 150 years of experience in
the chemical industry collectively.

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Plus our expert speakers from
other markets, Melina and Jason.

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So really powerful and impactful
what was happening on stage and

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also the conversations and the
insights and connections in the room.

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And that frankly is one of the
things that makes the chemical

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summit so special and so unique.

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So that's that.

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Um, let me talk to you
right now about some of the

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outstanding insights of day two.

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So the first thing.

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Melina Palmer was talking about
this, the importance of creating

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delight for your customers.

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Your customers want to be delighted.

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Um, and she brings some great examples,
both of,  how anticipation,  and

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anticipation of the reward and of the
great experience that you're going to have

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is what drives that, um, anticipation that
may or may not happen when it does occur.

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Um, You're truly delighted.

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And I'm going to integrate a
little clip from Melina right here.

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Melina Palmer: so, you want to think about
what it is that you're incentivizing those

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team members to do and think about those
more thoughtful questions that you can

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be asking internally and with customers.

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So, if you were to instead of saying,
were you satisfied with your service?

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Which, meh, right?

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But if instead to say, were you delighted?

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at the bank today?

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Like, Oh, was I delighted?

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One, if you have to think about
it like that, no, you weren't, but

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it's a very clear difference, right?

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And when we look at, like if I'm
working with a client and we're looking

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at redoing some internal processes
or something and asking team members

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say, what would make you love this?

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Like I know you hate
the website right now.

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How would you just love it?

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We hate these customer surveys.

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What would make them amazing?

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What are we really trying
to find out here too, right?

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Because again, it's a lot of like
10 pounds of sugar in the 5 pound

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bag that we get with those sorts of
surveys, which is why we hate them.

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It's 8 pages long and a bunch of
things that nobody cares about.

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It's exhausting.

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You're not getting good
data from it anyway.

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So if we say, what, if we can only
do one thing with this, why are

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we even asking anybody anything?

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What is it that we're trying to do?

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And is there just like one thing we can
ask or two that's going to help us to

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understand this and do that really well.

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And then we can move on to the next thing.

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Those are some opportunities
to not be stuck in that status

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quo of what we've always done
and look for the opportunities.

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Victoria Meyer: Then second strategic
and outstanding insight that came

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from day two also comes from Melina
and it's about the nudge and you

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guys have experienced this, right?

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So you go to a restaurant and you're
looking at your menu and they have things

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on there that are maybe chef special.

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Most popular.

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I kid you not most popular.

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We've all seen this and
we're like, Oh really?

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Is it the most popular?

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And how many times do you personally
look twice or maybe just buy

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what the most popular item is?

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Imagine adding.

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Most popular to your business's
website, or as you think about

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targeting for a specific formulation.

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So let's just say, um, surfactants
and laundry detergents, right?

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So, you know, putting on
your website most popular.

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For laundry detergents.

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Right.

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How cool is that?

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You provide formulations.

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I know that you do, um,
in many cases, right?

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With one of the services that many
chemical companies and distributors offer.

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But what about just that visual nudge of.

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Most popular favorite best product, right?

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So we've seen this, we see
those a lot on a consumer basis.

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It's certainly, um, something to
consider doing on a business basis.

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And, um, here's another comment of Melina.

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Here's a little clip from
Melina talking about just that.

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Melina Palmer: one thing that's
really important too, when we

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understand human behavior is that we
humans are a herding species, just

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like sheep and cows and guppies.

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We look to others like us to know what
is safe, how we should act, what's right.

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We want to know someone else
did the due diligence so our

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lazy brain doesn't have to.

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This is why ratings, testimonials,
social proof, knowing someone like

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me did this and they had the same
concern I had, but they love it.

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But I would love it too, right?

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There's safety in that even listing
something on a menu that was most

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popular and actually just writing
most popular over the top of it

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increased the likelihood that
people bought that 20 to 30%.

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Victoria Meyer: The third strategic
insight comes from the topic savvy

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segmentation with Jeanine Hurry of Xenon
arc and Shelly Linkerhof of Clariant.

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And these two ladies teamed up to provide
a really great hands on conversation about

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customer journey and customer experience.

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And the thing that stood out for
me, in fact, this nugget that Janine

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shared,  is around segmentation.

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Is a catalyst for growth, right?

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So we don't often think about that.

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I know chemical companies from time
to time have struggled with how do

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you really segment your customers?

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We've all gone through it, we do
it, and then it lags, et cetera.

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But I'm going to share just a
nugget here from Janine and Shelley

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talking about the importance, number
one of your brand story, right?

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So what is it that your company stands
for and how do you demonstrate that?

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And The importance of segmentation
and that segmentation is

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truly a catalyst for growth.

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Here's Janine and Shelley.

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jeanine: And the beginning of
that bridge is your brand story.

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That is the creative and the emotional
connection to your customer that

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some of the engineers I've worked
with in the past have been a little

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bit uncomfortable with, right?

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And why is that?

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It's because it's sometimes
hard to calculate.

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And engineers like their
Yeah, they like the data.

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Indeed.

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And so, but we all know that a brand,
a strong brand like Coca Cola or Apple

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really does connect the customer and
it helps build that brand loyalty,

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which is the other side of the bridge.

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And Melina was talking about
that this morning as well.

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So that's one reason why the
brand story is Super important.

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Super important.

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I'm just curious.

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How many engineers are in the room?

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Yeah, that's not as many as I thought.

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Yeah.

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So as the engineer in the room,
I definitely had to learn how

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important that brand story is
and it's strategically important.

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Doesn't stop there though.

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No, it really doesn't because that brand
story should make sure it articulates your

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purpose and it connects the customer with
why they want to do business with you.

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It's your voice and it's your
identity and it's your differentiator.

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And so.

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Even though it's hard to quantify, if you
don't have it, you'll get lost out there.

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But what's also very important is
the customer loyalty aspect of it.

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If your employees know your brand
story, and they're living it day to

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day, then the customer experience
isn't just the customer service desk.

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It's everybody in the organization
really trying to build

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that, that customer loyalty.

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Okay.

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SJeaninene, how about we
make it stick for everybody?

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So you guys are going to have some
homework here in a few minutes,

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but to make this stick, uh,
segmentation is a catalyst for growth.

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So hopefully just a couple of stories.

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Help you believe that, um, it is the
first step toward growth, but it has

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to be paired with the journey and
experience completely aligned with Milena.

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You guys all have the capacity
and capability for a good

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segmentation analysis.

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Most of us here have, we've talked about
this too, data, we're drowning in data.

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We now have integrated platforms.

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Many of us do and access to AI, which
should help you with that analysis.

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There's real value in helping
the customer across that bridge.

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Sometimes that that bridge there's
it's opaque to get across that bridge.

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But I'm building that pathway
is way more than a brochure.

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So lastly, revisit these steps
at a frequently frequency that

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makes sense for your team.

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It's not just once and done.

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So you need to iterate,
evolve and improve.

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So let's wrapping it up.

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Customer segmentation, start
small, prove results, customer

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journey, build the pathway.

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A customer experience,
it's more than a brochure.

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Victoria Meyer: the fourth strategic
insight that I want to share from

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day two of the chemical summit
is the importance of consistency.

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In building trust with your
suppliers and your customers.

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And okay, that kind of makes sense.

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It also, we all recognize, right?

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That sometimes that doesn't always happen.

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So this insight, and, and again, it
was a power hour of insights from

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Michael Siever of Integrity Biochem.

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Jamie Creamer of Carpenter company and
Frank Fisher of South Carolina chemical.

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All of those folks have tremendous
depth of experience in the chemical

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industry, in managing relationships, in
building trust and building consistency

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with their customers and suppliers.

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And so here is a snippet of Jamie
Creamer from Carpenter talking just

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about that, how you build trust.

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Listen,

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Jamie Creamer: The next thing I think
is super important is consistency.

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You have to be consistent with your
customer or with your supplier, because

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that's what builds trust over time.

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we spoke earlier this morning about the
peaks and the valleys, and a lot of times

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that's what builds that trust, right?

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You may have a situation that happens,
and,  your supplier comes to you and

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they say, Hey, listen, we messed up.

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They're transparent about the situation.

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They give you details on how
they're going to fix that.

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And that goes a long way in
building that trust and that loyalty

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Victoria Meyer: Our final speaker
of the day was so powerful.

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Jason Shanker, who is an
economist and futurist.

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He brought so many nuggets of wisdom,
um, insights about what's going on in

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the economy globally, broadly, the effect
of  The current election cycle that's

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going on in the US, what it means if
we do and don't have a really clear,

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consistent answer, um, to that on November
5th, which I think is our election day.

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Anyway, so, so many, so many great
insights there, but the number one

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thing that I'm going to talk about here,
and I think the takeaway for leaders

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to really think about is, Is, um,
recognizing the variability of geographic

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spending and demand differences.

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Right?

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So if we think about U S North America,
Europe, Asia, and just what the

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current economic strengths are and
how that is driving trade tensions.

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And really the importance of having
scenarios in place so that you and

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your company are ready to respond.

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As the geopolitics and other
tensions flare and impact and

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affect trade, affect, trade affect,
supply chains, affect business.

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So here is Jason talking about some of
those geographic demand differences.

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jason schenker: On the upside, right now,
we think about what's going on in the U.

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S.

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economy.

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Good news is, U.

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S.

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GDP is good and growth
data have been solid.

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Inflation rates, which have been a major
cause for concern, they have fallen,

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although they still remain elevated.

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Interest rates are poised to fall further.

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They've started falling.

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And of course, consumer
debt delinquencies are low.

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So that's the big news, right?

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GDP growth is solid.

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Jobs have been pretty good.

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Inflation rates have fallen.

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Interest rates are on the way down.

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Consumer debt delinquencies are low.

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Now that's really important
because 70 percent of GDP.

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It's driven by the consumer.

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It's people buying stuff.

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I'll dig into all of these a little
bit more in detail in a second,

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but the downside risks are also
significant because job gains have

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slowed, even though they're positive,
they are slower than what they were.

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Consumer inflation is still elevated.

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Interest rates are still high.

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And Cold War II is ongoing and U.

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S.

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political uncertainty is high.

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And if you ask me what the big spoilers of
the outlook could be, it's those last two,

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Cold War II and the political uncertainty.

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So let's start with the
economic growth, right?

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Most recent quarter, we have
data for Q2 GDP was 3 percent

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based on the data out today.

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Q3, this is from the Atlanta
fed is likely to be 3.

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2 percent compared to the growth
rates in other advanced economies.

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And I know this is small in the back,
but the big takeaway is that if you

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look, the U S growth rate last year of 2.

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5 percent was the fastest of
any advanced economy this year.

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US GDP expected to be 2.

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6.

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Same deal expected to be the fastest
growing advanced economy in the world.

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Next year, the forecast is for it to be 1.

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9%.

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These forecasts from the IMF.

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If you do business as a chemical
business is often want to do in Europe,

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the folks in Europe would absolutely
like I see jaws dropping mouthwatering

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over the prospect of two and a half
to 3 percent GDP numbers, right?

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These look more like emerging market
growth rates than advanced economies.

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And then you've got though other concerns,
some of which is tied to Cold War II,

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which is that China's slowed down.

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So last year Chinese GDP was 5.

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2, this year it's expected to be around 5,
expected to slow further next year to 4.

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5.

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And I would argue there's upside to the U.

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S.

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outlook and downside
to the Chinese numbers.

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I'll talk about who the beneficiaries are
of this ongoing conflict between the U.

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S.

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and China, but it's probably those
unaffiliated countries like India,

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Mexico, that are neither in sort of the U.

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S.

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and its military allies, or Russia,
China, and its military allies.

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So, the U.

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S.

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labor market's been
positive, but it has slowed.

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This is really the big thing, and the
reason I'm going to talk about labor

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market data again is 70 percent of U.

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S.

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GDP is consumption.

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It's people with jobs buying stuff.

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And don't tell anyone, this is a big
secret, people with jobs do buy stuff, and

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right now we have record high payrolls,

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Victoria Meyer: all right.

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That's a wrap guys.

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