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How do you use AI without letting it flatten the very human judgment your work depends on? Amy Tepper and Patrick Flynn, co-founders of Tepper & Flynn, talk with Michi Lantz about broken feedback systems, AI that keeps human judgment intact, and the real challenge of scaling a high-trust business.
Guest Bio:
Patrick Flynn brings a rare combination to instructional leadership work — deep classroom experience, executive leadership across nine states, and a systems thinker’s eye for what makes improvement sustainable at scale. He has worked as a teacher, curriculum director, Chief Academic Officer, and Executive Director in district, regional, and international settings including the Abu Dhabi Education Council.
Where Amy works at the level of individual leader transformation in a classroom or building, Patrick works at the level of organizational design — building the structures, protocols, and shared frameworks that make growth consistent across an entire district.
Patrick is the co-author of Feedback to Feed Forward and Learner-Focused Feedback, both published by Corwin as Visible Learning Supporting Resources, and presents nationally and internationally on instructional leadership, performance management, and data-driven decision-making.
Amy Tepper has spent nearly 30 years in K-12 education across traditional, blended, virtual, and international settings — as a teacher, administrator, program director, and coach. That range of experience is what allows her to meet leaders where they are, in whatever system they’re operating in.
Her work is grounded in evidence-based teaching and learning — the conditions that make professional growth stick long after a workshop ends. Amy has a rare ability to shift how leaders think, not just what they do. Districts don’t just implement her frameworks. They internalize them.
Since 2013, Amy has completed thousands of classroom visits as a peer validator, coach, and consultant across 10 states. She is the co-author of Feedback to Feed Forward and Learner-Focused Feedback, both published by Corwin as Visible Learning Supporting Resources.
Connect with Patrick Flynn & Amy Tepper
Patrick’s LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-w-flynn-a1515a7/
Amy’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-tepper/
Website: https://tepperandflynn.com/
Email:
patrick@tepperandflynn.com
amy@tepperandflynn.com
Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:
Mirasee
Credits:
Host & Producer: Michi Lantz
Editor: Michi Lantz
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
To catch the great episodes coming up on Making It, please follow us on Mirasee FM's YouTube channel or your favorite podcast player. And if you enjoyed the show, please leave us a comment or a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people.
Episode transcript: How School Leaders Can Use AI Without Losing Human Judgment coming soon.
Guest Bio:
Patrick Flynn brings a rare combination to instructional leadership work — deep classroom experience, executive leadership across nine states, and a systems thinker’s eye for what makes improvement sustainable at scale. He has worked as a teacher, curriculum director, Chief Academic Officer, and Executive Director in district, regional, and international settings including the Abu Dhabi Education Council.
Where Amy works at the level of individual leader transformation in a classroom or building, Patrick works at the level of organizational design — building the structures, protocols, and shared frameworks that make growth consistent across an entire district.
Patrick is the co-author of Feedback to Feed Forward and Learner-Focused Feedback, both published by Corwin as Visible Learning Supporting Resources, and presents nationally and internationally on instructional leadership, performance management, and data-driven decision-making.
Amy Tepper has spent nearly 30 years in K-12 education across traditional, blended, virtual, and international settings — as a teacher, administrator, program director, and coach. That range of experience is what allows her to meet leaders where they are, in whatever system they’re operating in.
Her work is grounded in evidence-based teaching and learning — the conditions that make professional growth stick long after a workshop ends. Amy has a rare ability to shift how leaders think, not just what they do. Districts don’t just implement her frameworks. They internalize them.
Since 2013, Amy has completed thousands of classroom visits as a peer validator, coach, and consultant across 10 states. She is the co-author of Feedback to Feed Forward and Learner-Focused Feedback, both published by Corwin as Visible Learning Supporting Resources.
Connect with Patrick Flynn & Amy Tepper
Patrick’s LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-w-flynn-a1515a7/
Amy’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-tepper/
Website: https://tepperandflynn.com/
Email:
patrick@tepperandflynn.com
amy@tepperandflynn.com
Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:
Mirasee
Credits:
Host & Producer: Michi Lantz
Editor: Michi Lantz
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
To catch the great episodes coming up on Making It, please follow us on Mirasee FM's YouTube channel or your favorite podcast player. And if you enjoyed the show, please leave us a comment or a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people.
Episode transcript: How School Leaders Can Use AI Without Losing Human Judgment coming soon.
Creators and Guests
Host
Michi Lantz
Guest
Amy Tepper and Patrick Flynn
Editor
Marvin Del Rosario
Producer
Michi Lantz
Editor
Michi Lantz
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