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<v Speaker 1>So today we're talking about how Paul says we should

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<v Speaker 1>plant our feet and stand firm.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to be a really good close out

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<v Speaker 2>to the second Thessalonian's letter that he wrote. So he's Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Jeff, and we're the Bible guys. Okay, Chris. So

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<v Speaker 2>here's a big one. This is a story that is

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<v Speaker 2>very near and dear to my heart. But first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>are you the kind of person who plans ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>leaves early so that you arrive at the place early?

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<v Speaker 3>In my mind, I am in your mind, you are

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<v Speaker 3>in execution. I'm almost never that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Why why what holds you back from Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because I always think best at the

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<v Speaker 1>last minute. So my wife always tells me she's a

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<v Speaker 1>You're better under pressure anyway, So I operate better under pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>So if I'm sitting.

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<v Speaker 1>There thinking, oh, if I leave myself thirty minutes, I

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<v Speaker 1>can get to heritage on time, then I'll get up

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<v Speaker 1>and then as soon as I'm getting ready, I'll think.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm going to do these five things? Oh right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and my brain activates.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're trying to cram three more things in before

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<v Speaker 2>you have to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do believe that's the case. But to be

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<v Speaker 1>quite honest with you, my wife would probably say, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just a person who's late.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be, but I usually am.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't intend to be. No, it's not like it's oh,

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<v Speaker 2>who cares about being late? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I'm the opposite. I want to be on time.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to build in a buffer so that I

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<v Speaker 2>have Okay, if I need to be there in thirty minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to need to shut everything down in fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>so that I can, you know, so I can get

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<v Speaker 2>there early. That kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the better way to be. Let's be clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely in a lot of things. I think in our

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<v Speaker 2>life we would discover that that, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 2>just do things my way. But so, here's an article,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, from one of the most trusted news sources

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<v Speaker 2>out there. Right now, people struggle knowing where they can

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<v Speaker 2>get the true news from the Babylon b Yes, is

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<v Speaker 2>a place that is very widely respected. If you don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>Babylon be's all about satire, yes, But anyways, here's one.

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<v Speaker 2>An article is says Dad has family arrived at airport

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<v Speaker 2>before it's even built.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first of all, the concept is it's hilarious because

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<v Speaker 1>it shows a family with their luggage and the dad's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of driving this whole thing, and it's at a.

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<v Speaker 2>Groundbreaking construction site.

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<v Speaker 3>Construction site, right, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is Indianapolis, Indiana. Pro dad and savvy world

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<v Speaker 2>traveler Chip Dunnings has taking his family on vacation and

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid missing the flight, has made sure the family

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<v Speaker 2>shows up packed and ready to go before the airport

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<v Speaker 2>is even built. Quote. It's important to show up good

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<v Speaker 2>and early, just to be safe, said Dunnings as he

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<v Speaker 2>zipped up his fanny pack and directed his kids to

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<v Speaker 2>bring all your things out to the car.

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<v Speaker 3>Impact, honey, hurry up.

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<v Speaker 2>Construction on the new I N D West TERMINALSS SLAVE

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<v Speaker 2>does start any day now. Why isn't everything packed already?

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Dunnings then sped things up using his preferred method

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<v Speaker 2>of walking through the house loudly. Well, let's go, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go, I prefer method.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously this is making fun of people who get

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<v Speaker 1>there in credibly early.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>This is me, this is me. My wife said, you

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<v Speaker 2>come busting through the house. Let's go let's go, let's go,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go, let's go. And she said, I'm the one

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<v Speaker 2>that's putting the coat on the kids and making sure

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<v Speaker 2>we've got everything ready and everything's by the door. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so easy for you to blow and just demand

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<v Speaker 2>that we all leave instantly, right And you know, she said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the one that's trying to put it all together.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's so terrible. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So when it comes down to it, I used

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<v Speaker 3>to be a person.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this. There are certain categories that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>never laid for. I shouldn't say never, but almost never

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<v Speaker 1>laid for, and airports is definitely one of them. Uh So, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I am always extra careful and I am that guy,

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<v Speaker 1>hey let's go, let's go, let's go. And people say

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<v Speaker 1>get through this amount of time, I'm like, nope, at

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<v Speaker 1>a half an hour. So I'm always there super early

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to be at the gate saying nothing happened,

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<v Speaker 1>no construction happened, nothing happened with a big long line.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always fearful of that. Right. So I've gone, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got the TSA checked.

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<v Speaker 1>All that stuff, I get all that, but I still

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<v Speaker 1>get there super early.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm flying out tomorrow. I have a conference I have

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<v Speaker 2>to be at and my wife is going with me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I always build in enough of a buffer. I've

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<v Speaker 2>never missed a plane. I've never had, you know, trouble

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<v Speaker 2>at those at TSA or anything that held me up

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<v Speaker 2>where I had to go running. The only time one time,

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<v Speaker 2>I was in Amsterdam and I miscalculated the time change,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I'm just sitting there texting with my wife

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<v Speaker 2>and suddenly I realized that they were saying my name

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<v Speaker 2>over the speaker. And if you ever been in that

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<v Speaker 2>amster in the airport at Amsterdam, it's huge. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>feels like miles. So I grabbed my bag and I

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<v Speaker 2>take off running, and I am so far away from

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<v Speaker 2>where I needed to be. I thought I had three

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<v Speaker 2>more hours. I totally missed it. I did the math

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<v Speaker 2>backwards instead of forwards, right, That's what happened. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm running and they skipped everything and just walked me

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<v Speaker 2>on and literally closed the door behind me, and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>clapped when I got on the airplane. So apparently i'd

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<v Speaker 2>held the plane. The only time ever that I did,

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<v Speaker 2>I was there. I just did the math wrong. But

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<v Speaker 2>most of the time. I'm an early guy too. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to be early.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me se you real quick. One time I

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<v Speaker 1>had to lay over in Baton Rouge because my flight

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<v Speaker 1>was late. It wasn't because of me, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>to actually spend the night in the airport. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was like from midnight to six am, and my plane

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<v Speaker 1>left at like six So I was so bored because

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a small, you know, airport. I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>rent a car and just go out to Denny's at

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<v Speaker 1>like two o'clock in the morning. I was by myself,

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<v Speaker 1>so I had this rent a car and I'm driving back,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, after sort of trying to stay up all night,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like four in the morning. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just thinking this is I can't believe I found

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<v Speaker 1>myself in the situation. And then I was so tired

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<v Speaker 1>driving back to the airport. I only had like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>three miles to go, big long stretch on these service roads,

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<v Speaker 1>and I pulled over on the side of the road,

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<v Speaker 1>put it in park, and I said, I'll just lay

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<v Speaker 1>my head back a second. And I laid back for

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<v Speaker 1>a second and I woke up and I realized my

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<v Speaker 1>plane left in like seventeen minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, And so I.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally put it in drive. And I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you the speed in which I I did, but

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<v Speaker 1>I pulled.

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<v Speaker 2>Underneath probably rate at the appropriate speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, appropriate speed limit. And then I pulled underneath the carport.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I'm getting out, I grabbed my bag and

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<v Speaker 1>the guy goes, you can't leave that there. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's left there. I'd left it literally with the door open.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I ran. This is how much I was

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<v Speaker 1>running for time. And then I turned the corner to

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<v Speaker 1>go right, and I was passing all of the rented

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<v Speaker 1>cars like enterprise. I was sprinting as fast as a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five year old could sprint. I didn't even slow down.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>I grabbed the keys as I was running by the

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<v Speaker 1>desk and threw them as hard as I could, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hit the back wall. And the two ladies behind

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<v Speaker 1>it hits the back wall and I said.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the keys.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, it's PERTLYWN.

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<v Speaker 1>Kept on running and then I go to the and

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<v Speaker 1>I go to the lady and I'm like, get me

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane, and she goes, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>make this flight, and I freaked out because my pastor

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<v Speaker 1>actually had threatened me and told another story, you better

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<v Speaker 1>be back here on Sunday morning, right and then anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so I started screaming, Oh, I gotta get all this flying,

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<v Speaker 1>and I ran as fast as I could made it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, those are back in the old days, before

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<v Speaker 2>you had all the other checkpoints and TSA tackling you

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<v Speaker 2>for looking sideways and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, what was after eleven?

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<v Speaker 2>But wow, wow, that's something else, man, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, actually it wasn't say if you were twenty five, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was before. It was before kind of message you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to send everybody that you weren't twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Happened when I when I was just two.

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<v Speaker 2>Years old, Okay, okay. So we are wrapping up now

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<v Speaker 2>on first Thessalonian or second Thessalonians, and he's really going

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<v Speaker 2>to lean into uh believing believers, standing firm and closing

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<v Speaker 2>out this idea, uh, clarifying all of his statements. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna start off in verse thirteen says as for us,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't help, but thank God for you, dear brothers

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<v Speaker 2>and sisters. Love by the Lord We are always thankful

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<v Speaker 2>that God chose you to be among the first to

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<v Speaker 2>experience salvation, a salvation that came through the Spirit who

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<v Speaker 2>makes you holy, and through your belief in the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>He called you to salvation when he when we told

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<v Speaker 2>you the good news. But now you can share in

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<v Speaker 2>the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. With all these

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<v Speaker 2>things in mind, dear brothers and sisters, stand firm and

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<v Speaker 2>keep a strong grip on the teaching we passed on

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<v Speaker 2>to you, both in person and by letter. Now may

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<v Speaker 2>our Lord Jesus Christ himself and God, our Father, who

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<v Speaker 2>loved us and by his grace gave us eternal comfort

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<v Speaker 2>and a wonderful hope, comfort you and strengthen you and

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<v Speaker 2>every good thing that you do. And say, finally, dear

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<v Speaker 2>brothers and sisters, we ask you to pray for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Pray that the Lord's message will spread rapidly and be

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<v Speaker 2>honored wherever it goes, just as when it came to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Pray too that we will be rescued from wicked and

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<v Speaker 2>evil people. For not everyone is a believer, but the

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<v Speaker 2>Lord is faithful. He will strengthen you and guard you

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<v Speaker 2>from the evil one. And we are confident in the

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<v Speaker 2>Lord that you are doing that you are doing and

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<v Speaker 2>will continue to do the things we commanded you. May

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<v Speaker 2>the Lord lead your hearts into a full understanding and

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<v Speaker 2>expression of the love of God and the patient endurance

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<v Speaker 2>that comes from Christ. And Now, dear brothers and sisters,

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<v Speaker 2>we give you this command in the name of our

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<v Speaker 2>idle lives and don't follow the tradition they received from us,

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<v Speaker 2>For you know that you ought to imitate us. We

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<v Speaker 2>were not idle when we were with you. We never

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<v Speaker 2>with you. We gave you this command. Those unwilling to

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<v Speaker 2>work will not get to eat. Yet we hear that

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<v Speaker 2>some of you are living idle lives, refusing to work

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<v Speaker 2>and meddling in other people's business. We command such people

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<v Speaker 2>and urge them, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ,

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<v Speaker 2>to settle down and to work to earn their own living.

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<v Speaker 2>never get tired of doing good. Take note of those

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<v Speaker 2>Stay away from them so that they will be ashamed.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think of them as enemies, but warn them as

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<v Speaker 2>you would a brother or sister. Now, May the Lord

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<v Speaker 2>of Peace himself give you his peace at all times

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<v Speaker 2>and in every situation. The Lord be with you all.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is my greeting and my own handwriting, Paul. I

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<v Speaker 2>do this in all my life to prove they are

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<v Speaker 2>be with you all. So I love that he ends it.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my greeting of my own handwriting. And then he

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<v Speaker 2>signs his name Paul. Right. Yes, he does that a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of times. So another time we just read what

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<v Speaker 2>Normally he would probably be dictating the letter to a

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<v Speaker 2>thing and then write in his own handwriting. And some

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<v Speaker 2>people estimate that perhaps he struggled with eyesight. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of issues that come up in his writings, and

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<v Speaker 2>when he would write you know that he didn't see

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<v Speaker 2>well or whatever. That might be the thing. But I

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<v Speaker 2>always think it's funny, Hey, look at I'm signing this

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<v Speaker 2>the certificate of authenticity, is what he's doing there.

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<v Speaker 3>His administrator should here sign this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>So standing firm. And by the way that I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, I like you. I actually really love

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<v Speaker 1>the term standing firm. So I have a life verse

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<v Speaker 1>for Corinthians fifteen fifty eight, and it says, stand firm,

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<v Speaker 1>always abounding in the work of the Lord, for as

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<v Speaker 1>is never in vain.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's my life verse.

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<v Speaker 1>And stand firm is one of those things where it

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<v Speaker 1>sort of fits the personality that I gravitate toward. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>me down, right, stand firm, And so I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's you know, it's encouraging to know that you can

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<v Speaker 1>have that same sort of grit with your faith. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's really what Paul's doing. He's encouraging people to have

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<v Speaker 1>chapter talks about, Hey, we were never idle, we worked

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<v Speaker 1>our butts off, we never coasted, and you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>because of my title, I never asked to do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But he also says, stand firm in your faith because

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<v Speaker 1>they've modeled it, they've been persecuted, they've been beaten, they've

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<v Speaker 1>been shipwrecked, they've been you know, all sorts of things,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, jailed, and so he asks us to stand

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he says, stand firm. And then he also says,

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<v Speaker 2>to keep a strong grip on the teaching that we

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<v Speaker 2>passed to you, right, so you got to hang on

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<v Speaker 2>to it. A lot of the things that we learned,

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<v Speaker 2>they slip through our hands. We lose a grip on

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<v Speaker 2>them if we don't intentionally hang on. And so one

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<v Speaker 2>of the ways is keep refreshing and reminding ourselves of

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<v Speaker 2>these words. That's why he had commanded I want these

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<v Speaker 2>letters read publicly. I want these things out there where

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<v Speaker 2>everybody has access to these words, because otherwise you forget

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<v Speaker 2>them and I think a lot of the struggles and

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<v Speaker 2>difficulties when we shift back from doing things God's way

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<v Speaker 2>to start behaving like the rest of the world acts

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<v Speaker 2>like godless people act, is because we've lost our grip

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<v Speaker 2>on God's words and we slip back into just our

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<v Speaker 2>normal habits, in the normal way humans would do things,

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<v Speaker 2>because God's way is so counterintuitive, it's so different from

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<v Speaker 2>our way. And so you know, stand firm and hang on,

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<v Speaker 2>hang on tight to right these words, right, these teachings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then he goes on and he talks about

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<v Speaker 1>how those are idle. Remember what we said, the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why he wrote the second Thessalonians was because people were

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord's coming.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, Paul was a tent maker.

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<v Speaker 1>By trade, so he worked day and night, never to

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<v Speaker 3>And then how are you like this for a policy?

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<v Speaker 3>Those unwilling to work will not get to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, some political.

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<v Speaker 3>There be some political debate about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I told you about the domestic dispute. The whole

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<v Speaker 2>village was having a domestic dispute. East in West Africa,

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<v Speaker 2>the women, there's probably seventy five eighty women and probably

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty children are throwing rocks and they

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<v Speaker 2>have sticks in their hands, and they're yelling at the

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<v Speaker 2>men who are all together on the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the road. And I wanted to know what's happening. And

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<v Speaker 2>my translators like, oh, I don't want to get involved.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I don't want to get involved. I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to know what's happening. You know, we'd gone for

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<v Speaker 2>days and days and days without any television, so now

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<v Speaker 2>this is the biggest drama i'd seen it in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>And most of our work was done for that day.

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<v Speaker 2>Sun was just setting. It was right around dinner time.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally he said, well, the women have discovered in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible that it says that if a man doesn't work,

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<v Speaker 2>he shouldn't eat. And the women were saying, you are

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<v Speaker 2>food unless you work harder. And it is true. In

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<v Speaker 2>that village. Alls I ever saw the men do is

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<v Speaker 2>they all sit on they have stills, they'd make this

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<v Speaker 2>really horrible hoots apparently, I mean it's rock kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>They would drink and they played like this. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>seen Mancala where you move the stones and the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like that. They would make these grooves

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<v Speaker 2>of like that's called bao and they're playing it in

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<v Speaker 2>the dirt. And that's how they do all day long,

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<v Speaker 2>is play. And then on occasion they'd fight battles and

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<v Speaker 2>steal other people's cow. So that's basically it. And so

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<v Speaker 2>the women were like, we build the we call the water,

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<v Speaker 2>we take care of the children, we cook the meals,

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<v Speaker 2>we maintain the fires. You guys don't do anything. So

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<v Speaker 2>the guys they all stand up and then they go,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to go out and talk about it. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>come back by an hour later and the leader stands up.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, you're right. We've decided you're right, and so

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<v Speaker 2>boys take better care of the cows, which meant they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't changing anything. They didn't. They didn't change one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was that's what was happening, is the women

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<v Speaker 2>were frustrated because the men were being lazy. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>When we are surrounded by lazy people, it makes it

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<v Speaker 2>to pick up the load that you're leaving, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff undone and everybody else has to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it becomes very frustrating and causes a lot of struggle.

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<v Speaker 2>But when everybody gets in and helps, then it makes

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<v Speaker 2>things so much easier.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fantastic, what a great thing. And he's really going

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<v Speaker 2>after him on it. By the way, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, he sure does. And then there's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>section in here. He calls for prayer. He asks to pray,

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<v Speaker 1>pray that the Lord's message will spread rapidly, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pray for us, Pray that the wicked people will will

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<v Speaker 1>because not everyone is a believer. And you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>then and by the way, there's a promise in there too,

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<v Speaker 3>He will strengthen you and guard you from the evil one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And just you know, remind ourselves with God will strengthen

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<v Speaker 2>So he's his great desire with all the other things

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<v Speaker 2>he has to talk about. His great desire is regardless

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<v Speaker 2>of the persecution, regardless of the theological confusion, regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>the interpersonal struggles that we have. The most important thing

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<v Speaker 2>is pray that the Lord's message will spread rapidly. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So sure, there's all these peripherals that we got to

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<v Speaker 2>about it. But the most important thing is that nothing

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<v Speaker 2>hinders the gospel. We need strength, we need protection, we

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<v Speaker 2>need courage. And then pray that you know, people's hearts

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<v Speaker 2>will be prepared and ready to hear the good news

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<v Speaker 2>of the Gospel, so that the word continues to spread quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>And he talks about how it came to you, right,

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<v Speaker 2>just like you received it, you know, I'm reminded often

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<v Speaker 2>ever had was the Gospel came to me on the

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<v Speaker 2>way to someone else. God's goal wasn't just so I

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<v Speaker 2>thousand years of Christian history was not supposed to culminate

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<v Speaker 2>with Finally Jeff Forster became a Christian. God wipes the

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<v Speaker 2>dust off his hands as well, We're finished. Now, that's great,

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<v Speaker 2>we did it right. The Gospel. Good top guys finally

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<v Speaker 2>got it. The Jeff two thousand years later, or to

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<v Speaker 2>any of our listeners, God's goal wasn't just to get

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<v Speaker 2>you to heaven. God's goal was to bring the Gospel

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<v Speaker 2>to you so that it would transform your life. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was to you on the way to someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's incredibly important for us to understand that

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<v Speaker 2>grow up to become more like him, that's not it.

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<v Speaker 2>Our mission will be finished when he calls us to heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>But between here and there, he wants us to go

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<v Speaker 2>but that it would spread rapidly. And so God's goal

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<v Speaker 2>is not just to trickle along. And maybe someday you'll

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<v Speaker 2>have the guts to bring up a spiritual conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>your lost friend. God said, do it. Do it now,

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<v Speaker 2>be rapid about it. Push, keep pushing forward with the gospel.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's a great reminder that, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>can do a lot of really good things in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, furthering God's message, his plan of salvation,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the one thing that matters the most. So I

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<v Speaker 1>did a funeral just an hour ago, an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>a half probably ago. And by did of funeral, I

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<v Speaker 1>just mean for these those who officiate, yes and so.

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<v Speaker 1>And the funeral director was there next to me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, I don't mind doing funerals at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said why, And I said, well, for three reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, and I do funerals and I don't mind

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<v Speaker 1>them because Number one, I always give the Gospel unless

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<v Speaker 1>the family tells me not, to which.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll honor the request. I always give the gospel.

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<v Speaker 1>I always tell people how to get to heaven always,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've done seven hundred and something funerals and I've

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<v Speaker 1>done it almost every time.

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<v Speaker 3>And then number two, I give it.

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<v Speaker 1>I give the gospel to people who are at a

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<v Speaker 1>time in their life where they're most susceptible and they're

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<v Speaker 1>most sensitive to it because they're around death. And then

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<v Speaker 1>number three, those people most likely will never set foot

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<v Speaker 1>in the church. Those aren't church people or people that

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<v Speaker 1>are prone to go to church. Those are people that

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<v Speaker 1>just have to go to funerals and they may never

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<v Speaker 1>set foot.

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<v Speaker 2>In the church. Yeah, to clarify you, you help out

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<v Speaker 2>at funeral homes around the region for people who don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a minister to do a funeral. You didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred funerals at our church. It's not dangerous to

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<v Speaker 2>attend to here to the church.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, It's especially since I've only been there too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. But it's that you've you've reached out and

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<v Speaker 2>made yourself available to the families in our community who

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<v Speaker 2>otherwise don't have a spiritual leader or somebody to depend

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<v Speaker 2>on in these crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm also referring to all the funerals I did

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<v Speaker 1>before I got here. Yeah, yeah, church, sure, So my

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty one years, I've done X amount of funerals.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean because I think in my whole ministry, I've

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<v Speaker 2>done like maybe seventy five funerals and your whole Messageah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah in thirty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that so? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I've always been in younger churches, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you don't do as many funerals in younger churches, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>with young people. But so to do seven hundred and fifty,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a lot of funerals.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The only reason why I even know that number is

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<v Speaker 1>because I have a little file on my computer and

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<v Speaker 1>you click on get info and it tells you how

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<v Speaker 1>many files are in it, and right now it's like

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred and something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Well, what a great ministry to be there

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<v Speaker 2>when people, You know, the ministry of a chaplain is

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<v Speaker 2>to is the ministry of presence being with somebody, uh

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<v Speaker 2>in a spiritual way, being with somebody in their their

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<v Speaker 2>most difficult times. And so for you to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to step in, not as the pastor at Heritage Church

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<v Speaker 2>or the pastor at Kensington or whatever, but stepping in

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<v Speaker 2>instead and saying we don't know each other, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>willing to be here for you spiritually in this moment.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that there's tremendous power on that. It's the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing for our listeners at work. You might know the

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<v Speaker 2>people loosely kind of know the people in your in

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<v Speaker 2>your your office, but when there's a crisis and you

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<v Speaker 2>step up say I just want you to know I'm

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<v Speaker 2>praying for you, and then circle back with them later

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<v Speaker 2>and say, how is.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything I give you piece of godly advice?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Or hey, I've been praying for you. How can

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<v Speaker 2>I pray for you? Right, and engage on a spiritual level.

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<v Speaker 2>That this ministry of presence is very significant and it

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<v Speaker 2>opens the door for sharing the Gospel, which is your

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<v Speaker 2>primary motivation. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's brilliant man, I think it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, that's it's a good place to end,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will see you next time on the Bible guys.

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<v Speaker 3>MHM