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WKNC DJ Whippopatomus interviewed local artist Allen Cattell. They discussed the local music scene, his upcoming projects, & the personal journey he took to reach his artistry.
Off the Record features interviews with local and national musicians as aired on WKNC 88.1 FM HD-1/HD-2.
00:00
DJ Whippopatomus
What's good, everybody? You are listening to WKNC 88.1 FM HD-1 Raleigh. We are a student run nonprofit radio station based at North Carolina State University. I am DJ Whippopatomus and this is Local Industry Talks. Here with me today is local artist and songwriter Allen Catell. What's good with you, man? How you doing?
00:23
Allen Catell
What's up? What's up, bro?
00:25
DJ Whippopatomus
Yo, I'm real excited to have you on, man. We've been trying to get this together for a minute now.
00:28
Allen Catell
Yeah, it's been like a month. I'm excited to be here.
00:30
DJ Whippopatomus
No doubt. So, yeah, go ahead, introduce yourself. Tell people where you from, what you do.
00:37
Allen Catell
My name is Allen Catell from Virginia Beach, Virginia. I've been recording and making music since I was like, I don't know, like 16.
00:47
DJ Whippopatomus
Word. Word.
00:47
Allen Catell
Probably younger. I don't know. Yeah, 14 maybe.
00:49
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
00:50
Allen Catell
Me and Frankie.
00:51
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
00:51
Allen Catell
And then.
00:52
DJ Whippopatomus
Wow, you and Frankie started.
00:54
Allen Catell
Yeah. Nah, he was shout out.
00:56
DJ Whippopatomus
Frankie from the Trap.
00:57
Allen Catell
Yeah, Frankie from the Trap. My best friend from seventh grade in science class.
01:00
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, y’all went to school together?
01:02
Allen Catell
Yeah, he was my first friend in seventh grade, actually. Damn. And he was writing raps back in the day.
01:07
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
01:08
Allen Catell
And I was like, yeah, I could.
01:09
DJ Whippopatomus
Do this from jump. God damn.
01:11
Allen Catell
Yeah. But probably started taking it super serious when I got out of high school. When I was like, 18.
01:17
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Okay.
01:19
Allen Catell
Ended up in a little rap group called High Five Ghost.
01:22
DJ Whippopatomus
Word. Okay, yeah.
01:23
Allen Catell
And then from there, everybody kind of went their, like, own separate ways. Yeah.
01:28
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. I feel that.
01:28
Allen Catell
Always supported each other.
01:29
DJ Whippopatomus
Right, right. Facts. Yeah, that's important.
01:32
Allen Catell
Alecatel. Yeah. Hell yeah.
01:35
DJ Whippopatomus
So what was the group's name again?
01:37
Allen Catell
High Five Ghost.
01:38
DJ Whippopatomus
And Allen Catell came after that.
01:41
Allen Catell
Yeah. When I was in high school, my rap name actually used to be.
01:46
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
01:47
Allen Catell
It actually used to be M A, C H. Okay. My initials. Oh, okay. And then I think when I was senior year, I just switched it to Allen. Could Tell which are my two middle names.
02:02
DJ Whippopatomus
Word.
02:03
Allen Catell
Yeah.
02:03
DJ Whippopatomus
I was. I was about to ask where. Where Allen Catell came from.
02:06
Allen Catell
Yeah. Allen is my first middle name. And that was the first name of who was supposed to be my godfather.
02:14
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
02:14
Allen Catell
But he passed away before I was born.
02:16
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
02:17
Allen Catell
And then my mom didn't like Allen Hoax. She gave me Marcel Allen. And then Could Tell actually comes from my great grandma, Dr. Psyche. Could tell she was. Yeah. First woman's graduating class of Harvard. Studied and taught at Stanford. Did a lot for modern day psychology. Yeah. And that's so crazy.
02:37
DJ Whippopatomus
No, for real big woman.
02:39
Allen Catell
Vibes, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to all the strong women and big women that fucking raised me, you know what I'm saying? That was instilled in me for sure, from my mom, my grandma, and. Yeah. Just kind of. Marshall, I like it. Yeah.
02:57
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. So, yeah, I really fell in love with hey, Kenny part one when he dropped it. I really appreciate the raw emotion you put into it. I feel like you provide a voice for a lot of broken and lost souls, and you represent them well. Yeah. Even one lyric I want to quote real quick. This is for the people that ain't never had an outlet. I speak for you, I feel for you. Pain is an outfit that just. That's the one that, like, spoke out to me the most. Like, it just hits every time I hear it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You already know. I remember I heard it first in Scholars Mix, and, like, after I heard it, I just.
03:35
Allen Catell
I needed more.
03:36
DJ Whippopatomus
Like, I listened to that so many times. Facts. Facts. Yeah. So, yeah. You mind telling us a little bit about the song?
03:45
Allen Catell
Oh, yeah. That's, like, for the longest time, that was, like, my secret song to myself.
03:52
DJ Whippopatomus
Right, okay. Because you've been working on it for a while. Right?
03:55
Allen Catell
Yeah. My best friend passed away when I was 19.
04:00
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
04:00
Allen Catell
His name was Kenlaw, but I called him Kenny. Kenny Kenlaw.
04:04
DJ Whippopatomus
Right, right.
04:04
Allen Catell
And, yeah, I kind of just, like, had to have a way to, like, get that emotion out.
04:13
DJ Whippopatomus
Right.
04:14
Allen Catell
No, that's, like, at the time, I was, like, taking a break for music for a really long time. Well, not a real long time. I just started what would end up being a long time.
04:24
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
04:25
Allen Catell
And, yeah, I was just like. That was, like, the first time I dealt with death, so.
04:31
DJ Whippopatomus
Right, right.
04:32
Allen Catell
A really weird and dark time for me.
04:36
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Facts.
04:37
Allen Catell
And, Yeah, I was 19, so, like. Yeah.
04:39
DJ Whippopatomus
But to say especially that young, like.
04:41
Allen Catell
Dealing with death for the first time and it being my best friend, it was just, like.
04:44
DJ Whippopatomus
Right.
04:45
Allen Catell
Pretty nuts. So.
04:46
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Yeah, no doubt.
04:48
Allen Catell
Yeah. I recorded that song because I was just, like, not doing really. Okay. Yes. I was like my own therapy to myself.
04:59
DJ Whippopatomus
Big facts.
05:00
Allen Catell
Yeah. So it's like being able to listen to that song back to myself a couple times, and then, like, if I ended up getting, like, super drunk and I was, like, hanging out with homies, I'll be like, yo, let me get hugs. I'm gonna play this song. And then, like, by the end of the song, they'd be like, oh, my God, is that you? And I'd be like, you're ruining them. Like, you're ruining the moment. But yeah. No. And then after everything was said and done and working on countless projects that became kind of melted down to one project.
05:31
DJ Whippopatomus
Right.
05:32
Allen Catell
Time.
05:32
DJ Whippopatomus
Right.
05:32
Allen Catell
Ended up being like the first thing I put out.
05:36
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
05:37
Allen Catell
And like, I don't even know how many years, but yeah, that was definitely. That's definitely the tip of the iceberg, I guess.
05:45
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Facts. Yeah. I'm real sorry for your last man. Yeah. That's crazy. You definitely see that in your music. And obviously it's. Your song is named after him. Yeah. Yeah. So that's. That's your only song posted on platforms right now. You're working on a project, right?
06:05
Allen Catell
Yeah, yeah.
06:06
DJ Whippopatomus
What's going on with that?
06:07
Allen Catell
Actually, I just. I. Last night, I actually just finished recording. Recording an ep.
06:16
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, for real? Okay.
06:17
Allen Catell
So I do. I do. The album is done. It's completely done.
06:21
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
06:22
Allen Catell
Mix mastered. We're just putting the final tweaks and.
06:25
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
06:26
Allen Catell
Everything on the icing in that. But right before that. Yeah. Last night I just finished this EP and I'm trying to push that out. Like.
06:34
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
06:36
Allen Catell
Okay. I don't know if the homies. The team is gonna be mad at me, but. Yeah, no, it's called Bedroom. I'm deciding if it's going to be called Bedroom eps or Bedroom demos or just Bedroom. But yeah, called Bedroom. And five tracks. I might have some little tweaks on it. Might make it a couple longer, but.
06:56
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
06:56
Allen Catell
Five solid tracks. Yeah, I'm about to push that out. Like. Yeah, yeah, super, like, right around the corner. I don't have a definite. I'm looking for that before April, for sure.
07:06
DJ Whippopatomus
I feel that.
07:07
Allen Catell
Yeah.
07:09
DJ Whippopatomus
Sorry. When did you make Kinney, like, originally?
07:14
Allen Catell
Originally that.
07:15
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, dude.
07:18
Allen Catell
2016.
07:20
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
07:21
Allen Catell
Damn. Yeah. Nah. Super big vault.
07:24
DJ Whippopatomus
So Effects. Did the. The song evolve over time? I'm assuming, yeah.
07:31
Allen Catell
And the real delay with it is that, in a sense, I guess I was trying to figure out the right time for myself to be like, okay with myself, if that makes sense.
07:43
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, yeah.
07:44
Allen Catell
You know, because like I said, it was like, at the time when like happened, I was like angsty teenager and I was like, I don't need therapy.
07:51
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
07:51
Allen Catell
Like, I'mma take on the world by myself type time. You know what I'm saying? Like, so, yeah, I guess, like, deep down I really knew, like, I wasn't even ready to express those things. I was still trying to.
08:04
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
08:04
Allen Catell
Process my way through a lot of.
08:06
DJ Whippopatomus
And that's why it's kind of like therapy too. Like, that's the beauty of the song too. Like, you made it for yourself and, like, for no other reason.
08:11
Allen Catell
Yeah. Like, literally, like, up until, like, right before fall of this year, I was like, all right, I'm gonna put it out. Yeah. Like, I would just have a bad day.
08:19
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
08:20
Allen Catell
And, like, instead of, like, probably doing what I should have did, like, have a talk or cry, I'll just, like, chug a beer and then.
08:29
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
08:30
Allen Catell
Play that song on repeat.
08:31
DJ Whippopatomus
Yes.
08:31
Allen Catell
20 times.
08:32
DJ Whippopatomus
I feel it.
08:33
Allen Catell
Like, I'd be like, all right. Yeah, I'm good.
08:35
DJ Whippopatomus
I'd be on that too. Like, I definitely, like, when I drink through it sometimes, just, like, listen to it non stop. I feel it, bro.
08:41
Allen Catell
No, I appreciate that.
08:42
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. You already know. Yeah. So how would you describe your music? You have a very versatile sound for the. For people who haven't heard it yet.
08:54
Allen Catell
Sheesh. I feel like.
08:56
DJ Whippopatomus
I know it's hard.
08:57
Allen Catell
Nah, it. I feel like ever since, like, evolving when I was, like, 16, when I've, like, really, like, dove deep into all the music I listen to daily.
09:08
DJ Whippopatomus
Right.
09:09
Allen Catell
And my playlists, like, my sounds just, like, change, like, all the time.
09:13
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, absolutely.
09:14
Allen Catell
I feel mainly influenced from, like, my brother, my sister growing up.
09:17
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
09:19
Allen Catell
I think that's where I get the main ideas and sounds where really, I try to, like, to figure. I'm like, I want to. I want to make some like this.
09:28
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, yeah.
09:28
Allen Catell
You know what I'm saying? But I want. But I'll hear some, like. I want to make some like this, but I want to make it like how. How I hear it in my head. And I guess over time, I found the easiest way to describe it is like, quote, unquote, when I do rap.
09:43
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
09:44
Allen Catell
Air quotations around the rap.
09:46
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
09:47
Allen Catell
I feel like I've dumbed it down to, like, indie rap.
09:51
DJ Whippopatomus
Slash, like, okay.
09:52
Allen Catell
Alternative.
09:53
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. It's funny. You put the quotations around it. I've talked to other artists who've kind of put it in the same way. Someone told me that some people are straight up rappers and some people use rap more as a tool.
10:08
Allen Catell
Yeah, yeah, that's. Yeah, yeah. Because I feel like.
10:12
DJ Whippopatomus
I definitely feel that with you.
10:13
Allen Catell
I feel like the easiest way to describe is, like, whenever I do, like, quote, unquote rap, it's kind of like. Yeah, I'm just like. It's kind of like I'm talking about myself. It's like, it might not be like, your favorite type of rap, but, like, I'm, like, looking at myself in the mirror like, yo, all right, this is Hard, bro. But it's like. I don't know. I guess I've kind of always tried to go, like, left field with the sounds. Yeah.
10:39
DJ Whippopatomus
Facts.
10:40
Allen Catell
I've definitely, like, grew up. Like, first CD ever had was Biggie.
10:44
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay. Yeah, yeah, let's get into die. What were you listening to in high school?
10:52
Allen Catell
Switched up, like, as soon as I hit, like, middle school. Yeah. I got like, super into, like, it was mainly, like, when my sister was, like, blasting at that time.
11:01
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, yeah.
11:02
Allen Catell
And then my brother got. Well, my sister was always, like, on the classic, like, 80s all the time, for sure. 90s, R B, all that type of. But then, like, she kept up with, like, modern, like, boy bands, like Motion City Soundtrack, Fallout Boy, all the alternative. I was coming out at the time like, afi, like, Yellow Card Thursday, Cohee Cambria.
11:25
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
11:26
Allen Catell
And then my brother was a drummer, and he got into, like, classic rock.
11:30
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
11:30
Allen Catell
And. And at the same time, all my brothers putting me onto, like, classic rock and, like, just, like, different, like, 70s. He's also, like, the one in the household, like, that has a stronghold on, like, the rap.
11:44
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay, Okay.
11:45
Allen Catell
I was just getting all around, and I think when I was, like, 12, I kind of, like, started diving into, like, my own taste of music. And then I remember, like, the first two big artists I would listen to, like, on the daily, which is, like, completely different. Like, I'll be listening, like, hella Bob Marley. And at the same time, I had discovered Bob Marley when I was, like, 12. I had just discovered the Clash.
12:08
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
12:09
Allen Catell
So it was like, at all times, I'm just, like, getting different.
12:13
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, you had all different types of sounds coming at you, and.
12:17
Allen Catell
Yeah. So I just kind of, like, try my hardest to, like, not even try my hardest. Like, I just embrace all that. Like, that's just. That's just how I dig it.
12:26
DJ Whippopatomus
No, I feel that. Do you feel like the. The music you were listening to as a kid has an influence over the music you make?
12:33
Allen Catell
Oh, yeah, for sure. All the way. No doubt about it. I think all the rap stuff, like, just in general, I'm like, I want to rap.
12:44
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, yeah.
12:44
Allen Catell
That's definitely from, like, going through my podcast.
12:46
DJ Whippopatomus
I get that.
12:49
Allen Catell
He used to be a dj, too, and he just had a crazy collection of cassettes and CDs and everything. And. Yeah, I just go through his all the time. And then my sister would make crazy mixes when she would. Me and my brother, My sister are all three years apart, so she's the oldest. She's six years older than me, so when I was like six, she was 12. And she would just like make crazy, like, limewire days. Like, like, she was just. She's probably my sister and my brother. Top two hippest people ever.
13:23
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
13:23
Allen Catell
She would like all the mixes and like, yo. Decorate the CDs.
13:27
DJ Whippopatomus
And so you were surrounded by artists in your family?
13:31
Allen Catell
Yeah, my brother played my grandma. My mom took me and my brother to see Drumline in theaters.
13:40
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
13:41
Allen Catell
And my brother was going into sixth grade and he was like, I'll play drums. Yeah.
13:45
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
13:45
Allen Catell
And they played drums all the way through high school. And then I'm little bro, so I started playing drums because he was playing Word.
13:53
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
13:53
Allen Catell
And then I got into, like, being class.
13:55
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
13:55
Allen Catell
I feel like that's where it always starts for, like, a lot of people.
13:58
DJ Whippopatomus
That's crazy. Yeah. A lot of artists I talk to that. That's a common thread is that there's other musicians in their family already. So, like, I'm trying to, like, if I have a kid, like, surround them. Can you be their. My kid's uncle, actually.
14:11
Allen Catell
Can I be your kid's uncle? Yeah.
14:12
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Good looks, man. Yeah. It's really interesting how your sound has evolved over time. I've actually watched every single one of your YouTube videos.
14:25
Allen Catell
Oh, Lord.
14:26
DJ Whippopatomus
And I love it. No, everything's a banger. For real.
14:29
Allen Catell
Yeah. Yeah. Homies. For like, real. Shout out Kendall. He's always saying.
14:35
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
14:35
Allen Catell
He used to always be like, shout out. My bros. We chose our own family. For real. Like, Thomas, Frankie, Kato, everybody. I mean, yeah, of course there's somebody. Damn. He didn't name me, bro. Yeah. Yeah. It always like, yeah.
14:52
DJ Whippopatomus
Facts. Yeah. I was actually a little nervous about this interview after watching your video. The interview.
15:00
Allen Catell
Shout out Gonzo. Shout out Facts.
15:03
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. I really love the. The characters you create through your music.
15:06
Allen Catell
Yeah. No, it's definitely like my playground, I guess.
15:13
DJ Whippopatomus
Right, Right. Yeah.
15:14
Allen Catell
Like, I'll definitely just be like, have an idea. Like, whether I'm like, laying in bed or at work or like facts, like grocery shop, like, listening to a song, getting some inspo, and I'll just have an idea. And I'm like, that's a wicked. That's gnarly ass. Like, how am I going to do this? And then, boom. Next thing I know, I'm like.
15:39
DJ Whippopatomus
No, I love it. For real. Yeah.
15:41
Allen Catell
I appreciate it.
15:42
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. So is there a chance we might see you perform in the near future?
15:46
Allen Catell
Oh, yeah.
15:46
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Okay.
15:47
Allen Catell
It feels super good to say that, but yeah, sure.
15:53
DJ Whippopatomus
What might that look like? Would you perform with the band or I'm trying to.
15:57
Allen Catell
That's right. That's. That's the process of what I'm trying.
15:59
DJ Whippopatomus
To figure right now. Right, right.
16:01
Allen Catell
Like I said, obviously from, like, the. Everything I've been inspired by, like, I've been playing guitar for, like, I want to say. Yeah. Four and a half years now.
16:12
DJ Whippopatomus
I wanted to ask you about that.
16:13
Allen Catell
And I'm, like, super stoked. And I used to ask my mom for a guitar for every Christmas. Never got one. Damn, mom, if you're listening to this, I'm not angry at you, but I wish you would have got me a guitar. No, I bought my first guitar when I was like, 20. Like, right after I turned 23.
16:35
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay, bet. So you. Do you still play the drums or do you know how.
16:39
Allen Catell
No, I. I can't. I can. I'm not as nice as Shout out to not the two, but the one pump.
16:45
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, yeah.
16:46
Allen Catell
I'm nowhere as nice as Broski. My brother is probably still super gnarly. That's like his super hipster trailer.
16:52
DJ Whippopatomus
Right? Right.
16:53
Allen Catell
Can't do anything, but. Yeah, no, I could. I could, like, jam around, maybe keep up, but definitely not.
17:01
DJ Whippopatomus
That's dope.
17:02
Allen Catell
But, yeah, the guitar. I'm definitely trying to. I'm trying to incorporate live music for sure into my set. And my whole life I've like, literally wanted to just play guitar and be a front man.
17:15
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Okay.
17:16
Allen Catell
It's like when my brother got me into, like, his type of music, like.
17:19
DJ Whippopatomus
Right, right.
17:20
Allen Catell
That's when, like, Screamo warped her was like head strong in the world. And that. That was. Those were my real, like, 13, like, 17, 18 years. And. Yeah, I definitely. Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be a fun year for sure.
17:37
DJ Whippopatomus
What. What type of guitar do you play? I really don't know much about guitars.
17:41
Allen Catell
I got a Squire Jag and a Squire Jazz master.
17:44
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay, bet that sounds pretty dope.
17:48
Allen Catell
Yeah. Shout out big homie Zach from Snake Mountain Revival from Virginia Beach, Virginia. Snake Mountain Revival.
17:57
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
17:57
Allen Catell
He was my big homie at Zeke's Beans and Bowls.
18:00
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
18:01
Allen Catell
And I used to make all the acai bowls. He was. He was big homie and came in and made all the cold pressed juice. And like, just one day we had a shift together. He's like, you gotta come check out my band.
18:11
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
18:12
Allen Catell
And then I was like, yo, I've always want to play guitar. And then, like, I go to his house like, after work and like, oh, I go to his house after work. We just smoke hella joints. And like, I just Watch him jam out all day. And I'm like, dude, I've always wanted to play the guitar, right? He's like, yo, when you're ready. And I went to shout out Scala and Sunshine. They convinced me to work bonnaroo.
18:37
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
18:38
Allen Catell
Of 2018.
18:39
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
18:39
Allen Catell
And then I'm super secret fan girl of the Killers. The Killers And Fallout Boy.
18:48
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
18:50
Allen Catell
Follow boy. Come on. From another core trick. Instant classic, bro. And after I saw the Killers, I was like, yeah. Nah, dude. I got. I got like, I gotta follow my.
19:03
Allen Catell
My childhood dream. So I went back home and hit up Zach, and I was like, yo, I'm ready to buy a guitar. And he took me shopping, and I was about to get a cherry red gretch. Big old Gretch, like the Beatles. And then, like, last minute, he was like, yo, can I see that white guitar on the wall?
19:21
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
19:22
Allen Catell
And then he's like, yeah. And then he's like, yo, play that stuff you've been playing. And I'm like, strumming it. He's like, hit that switch.
19:30
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
19:31
Allen Catell
I'm like, yo, that sounds gnarly. Hit that switch and hit this switch. I'm like, yeah. And he's like, yeah, you got to get the jack, bro. You gotta get the jack.
19:37
DJ Whippopatomus
Let's go.
19:39
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, that's tough. Hell, yeah. Do you record you playing guitar in your music?
19:46
Allen Catell
Yeah.
19:46
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
19:47
Allen Catell
I've definitely just recently gotten, like I say, within the past year, like, way more confident with myself.
19:53
DJ Whippopatomus
Right, right.
19:53
Allen Catell
It's definitely still, like, beginner vibes.
19:55
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
19:56
Allen Catell
You know what I'm saying?
19:57
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
19:58
Allen Catell
I'm just learning to try and be more transparent with my stuff again and, like, just be more confident, you know? Yeah, definitely. All it is.
20:05
DJ Whippopatomus
And a lot of tortured artists out there.
20:07
Allen Catell
Yeah. I became one like that. Like, don't.
20:12
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
20:12
Allen Catell
I'm trying not to be so hesitant.
20:14
DJ Whippopatomus
Right. Right now. You got a whole lot of talent. Honestly, I appreciate it.
20:19
Allen Catell
Yeah.
20:19
DJ Whippopatomus
I can't wait to. To hear what you got coming up.
20:22
Allen Catell
I appreciate that.
20:24
DJ Whippopatomus
One more question before we take a break. Do you go for a beat and then write the lyrics, or do you write lyrics and look for a beat?
20:33
Allen Catell
Oh.
20:34
DJ Whippopatomus
Or do you do both?
20:35
Allen Catell
Trick.
20:37
DJ Whippopatomus
No wrong answers here.
20:40
Allen Catell
I feel like over time, my writing process has changed a lot. Like, I literally. High school days, I. Bro, I was tuned out of class, Yo.
20:53
DJ Whippopatomus
Facts.
20:54
Allen Catell
Just.
20:54
DJ Whippopatomus
Just amazing right now.
20:56
Allen Catell
In my head, like, just roll. Write thoughts all day and just.
21:01
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
21:01
Allen Catell
Make them rhyme, like, any type of way whatsoever. And then I would come home from school and just Sit in front of my computer and, like, listen. Beats, beats, beats. Me and Frankie every day. Right?
21:13
DJ Whippopatomus
That's dope.
21:13
Allen Catell
Record, right?
21:14
Allen Catell
And record. Right? And record. And then I probably say, like, high five. Ghost Days. I started taking it, like, way more serious and was, like, trying to be a little bit more lyrical and, like, really working on the flow. I like to do, like, the jumble a whole lot, but make it sound smooth type of time, because then you have, like, way more twist and.
21:37
DJ Whippopatomus
Right.
21:37
Allen Catell
Tongue play with it.
21:38
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
21:39
Allen Catell
And then I think when I was, like, probably, like, between, like, 20 to 22 is where I picked up and perfected what I do now. I kind of, like, write more of, like, poems, I guess. Like, more stanzas over time. And then sometimes it'll be quick, and it'll be like, little four bars. And here, there, like, within, like, the time frame of, like, a day or two. Or sometimes it'll come real quick, like, just, like, 15 minutes, and that'll be a song. And I'll just, like, over time, perfect and, like, switch out a couple words here and there. But sometimes I'll hear a beat in, like, blackout mode. I'm like, yo, Right? Like, and it comes.
22:23
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay. But damn.
22:25
Allen Catell
For the most part nowadays, I kind of just, like. I hate it so much what I'm about to say, but, like, I really tune into, like, the hipster side. I'm like, yeah, it's got to be, like, a certain type of way.
22:36
DJ Whippopatomus
Like, it's so dope.
22:38
Allen Catell
But I found out, like, that's just. It works best for me that way.
22:41
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Facts. Everyone's got their own process.
22:44
Allen Catell
Yeah. The writing process has definitely evolved.
22:48
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Yeah. Sounds intense, honestly.
22:50
Allen Catell
Yeah. I'll be, like, in there like a madman.
22:52
DJ Whippopatomus
Like, you, like, punch yourself in the face.
22:54
Allen Catell
He's not good enough. Try harder. Try harder. Like, slap myself with him. Yeah. Say to you, punch yourself. Where is the emotion? Yeah.
23:08
DJ Whippopatomus
All right, we're going to take a quick break to play y’all HEY KINNY PT. 1 by Allen Catell. And when we come back, we're gonna talk with Allen Catell's manager, Johnny Seed. So stay tuned for that. We'll be right back.
23:24
Music
[ALLEN CATELL – HEY KINNY PT. 1]
DJ Whippopatomus
What's good, everybody? We are back again. I am DJ Whippopatomus and I am here with.
27:41
Allen Catell
There's no school like the old school. And I'm the headmaster, Mr. Apple Johnnyseed himself.
27:49
DJ Whippopatomus
Yes, sir. The manager of Allen Catell.
27:52
Allen Catell
It is I, it is I, the one and only.
27:55
DJ Whippopatomus
Yes, sir. What is it like managing Allen Catell?
28:03
Allen Catell
That kid. That kid, man, he's a little rough around the edges, okay? But the kid's got a good heart. He's got a good head on his shoulders. He knows what everything is and what everything isn't. You know, he has. He has a real grasp on life and, you know, the universe itself.
28:26
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
28:27
Allen Catell
But he just needs, you know, even the gods themselves that created everything that is need a little push every now and then. You know, I'm saying big facts.
28:34
DJ Whippopatomus
Big facts. Yeah. You and Allen have an interesting dynamic, I feel like in your relationship. I see sometimes y’all have a little attention between y'all.
28:44
Allen Catell
Yeah. It's just that kid, he could have a silver platter in front of him, and he's like, where's the gold platter? I get a little frustrated with him every now and then, but, you know, he. He figures it out.
29:02
DJ Whippopatomus
I feel it.
29:03
Allen Catell
He figures it out.
29:04
DJ Whippopatomus
How did y’all meet? Actually?
29:07
Allen Catell
God, the type of cat that I am.
29:11
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
29:11
Allen Catell
Just kind of everywhere. Nowhere at the same time. Right, right on my hands.
29:15
DJ Whippopatomus
Kind of like Santa.
29:16
Allen Catell
Yeah, Noel. That's my man. Yeah, we go way back. We Go way back. Yeah, yeah. Crazy cat, that Noel guy. But yeah, I kind of just have my ears and hands and eyes and everything and all different places at all times. And I think it was Sometime back in 13, I want to say he put out this single, he remixed Washed Outs, Fear all around where some pretty. I was like, okay, this kid knows a little bit. I like this. And you know, I didn't reach out to. I didn't reach out to him just about recently, I say about two years ago actually I got into contact with that he's cool guy. Dante is cool.
30:07
DJ Whippopatomus
I heard of him.
30:08
Allen Catell
Lord Shiva. And yeah, when they were working on a short, I think it was when the album was just being presented as an idea from Allen to his cool a Dante. And yeah, I was like, what's up with this Allen cat? And he sent me a couple demos. Aaron doesn't know that. Mr. Johnny said always finds a way to get what he wants.
30:32
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Facts. He slid in there.
30:34
Allen Catell
Yeah. And I heard what he was working on. I just, you know, like I said, everybody kind of just needs a push. Like a little mold. Like you're making some pottery or something. Everybody's a little delicate vase, if you will. Right. And yeah, he's been working pretty hard.
30:48
DJ Whippopatomus
I see that.
30:49
Allen Catell
Yeah.
30:49
DJ Whippopatomus
Honestly. Yeah. I see Allen looking at us over here.
30:54
Allen Catell
He's.
30:55
DJ Whippopatomus
He's ready to get back on the interview. But I'll have one more question. I noticed the accent, man. Where. Where are you from?
31:03
Allen Catell
Wouldn't everybody like tonight? I'm kind of a little bit. Like I said, man, I'm everywhere. Know it all at the same time.
31:10
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay. I love it.
31:12
Allen Catell
Yeah. I spent a little time here, spent a little time there.
31:17
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I've been there.
31:20
Allen Catell
I kind of been laid down. You have it. You ever hear Shark island? Yeah. About 30 kilometers west of Perth.
31:27
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
31:28
Speaker 3
Yeah.
31:28
Allen Catell
You know Perth?
31:29
DJ Whippopatomus
No, I don't actually.
31:30
Allen Catell
Perth is. Well, Shark island is 30 km west of Perth and then Perth is about 30 km east of Shark island, so. And I've been hanging out there for a while. Word.
31:40
DJ Whippopatomus
I'm gonna have to check that out.
31:42
Speaker 3
Yeah.
31:42
DJ Whippopatomus
Would you recommend anything there?
31:45
Allen Catell
Stay out of water?
31:46
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, yeah.
31:47
Allen Catell
Mango popsicles and piss.
31:49
DJ Whippopatomus
It's too salty.
31:50
Allen Catell
The sharks.
31:52
DJ Whippopatomus
Bet, bet. Yeah. I. I really appreciate you coming on the show and escorting Allen here, getting it all together.
32:01
Allen Catell
That's a just another day in the life with this one.
32:03
DJ Whippopatomus
Big facts, Big facts.
32:06
Allen Catell
Thanks for having me with you.
32:07
DJ Whippopatomus
Already know, man, it's lovely seeing you.
32:10
Allen Catell
I'm sure. We'll meet again sometime soon.
32:11
DJ Whippopatomus
I hope so. All right, we'll bring Allen Catell back in here. What's good with you, man? Let's get back into it.
32:18
Allen Catell
What's up? What's up? Let's get back into it.
32:21
DJ Whippopatomus
I gotta say, you and Johnny Appleseed kind of look alike. It's crazy. Really? Yeah, like from different parts of the world. It's wild.
32:29
Allen Catell
I don't see it, but believe it or not, I get it a lot, actually.
32:33
DJ Whippopatomus
No doubt.
32:33
Allen Catell
People always, like, is your manager your dad? I'm like, do you think I would have turned out like this? It's a crazy cat.
32:40
DJ Whippopatomus
Big facts. So, yeah, you mentioned you grew up in Virginia beach, but do you have roots anywhere else?
32:47
Allen Catell
My mom and pops out of Philly. Love story.
32:50
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
32:51
Speaker 3
Okay.
32:51
DJ Whippopatomus
Hell, yeah. What's that like?
32:54
Allen Catell
Pretty sure my pops is from West Philly.
32:57
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
32:58
Allen Catell
If I'm wrong, mom or dad.
32:59
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
33:00
Allen Catell
And I'm pretty sure my mom is from North Philly.
33:02
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay. Yeah. Tough, tough.
33:05
Allen Catell
Yeah.
33:06
DJ Whippopatomus
Do you. Do you go to Philly often?
33:08
Allen Catell
I don't used to a lot when I was a kid.
33:10
DJ Whippopatomus
Right, right.
33:11
Allen Catell
We'd always go for Thanksgiving.
33:12
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
33:13
Allen Catell
And my parents, you know, split.
33:15
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay. Yeah.
33:16
Allen Catell
And then. Yeah, we didn't really do that too much after, but I actually just went to go see Current Joys in Philly, actually.
33:22
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
33:22
Allen Catell
One of the best shows I've seen in a long time.
33:24
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. How's it being back in Philly?
33:26
Allen Catell
Dope.
33:27
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
33:27
Allen Catell
Actually, I've been traveling quite often nowadays.
33:31
DJ Whippopatomus
Right.
33:31
Allen Catell
For my job.
33:32
DJ Whippopatomus
And that's what's up.
33:33
Allen Catell
Just in general, if I want to go do something now, I'm just like, why not? And I could definitely say Philly is probably like a Dante. Said it earlier. I was like, yeah, Billy's probably like the dopest city I've been to in a while. He's like, that's the first time I ever heard that.
33:48
DJ Whippopatomus
That sounded exactly like a Dante.
33:51
Allen Catell
He's a backup character in Seinfeld. But, yeah, now Philly's dope. And, yeah, now I actually really like the scene and feel like the music scene, too, is okay. Sick.
34:05
DJ Whippopatomus
Hell, yeah. Yeah, that's. That's interesting. I really don't know much about the scene out there. I look into it sometime.
34:11
Allen Catell
Yeah, a bunch of great bands out there.
34:13
DJ Whippopatomus
Tough. But, yeah, so, yeah, like I said, you're from Virginia Beach. What was high school like for you? You went to Kemsville, right?
34:22
Allen Catell
High school was a Wild.
34:23
DJ Whippopatomus
Wild. Yeah.
34:26
Allen Catell
Yeah. I went to Chemistville and Bayside I graduated from Bayside. I only went to Chemistville for like half of 10th grade, but when I hit 10th grade, I kind of like became a floater.
34:36
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
34:36
Allen Catell
Yeah. And then honestly, 10th grade, I was like bouncing back between Chemistville and Bayside.
34:44
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
34:45
Allen Catell
And I started hanging out with Lancetta a little bit. But then 11th grade, I was out Lanstown, like, super heavy. And then that led into, like hanging out with Kellum and.
34:55
DJ Whippopatomus
Damn.
34:55
Allen Catell
What's the other one? Ocean Lakes. And then Frankie was. Frankie went to Ocean Lakes too.
35:00
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, word.
35:01
Allen Catell
And we made music at it. So then I was always senior, like, senior year I was just all about and around town. And then like senior year, I started hanging out with everybody from like, Cox and fct, so.
35:10
DJ Whippopatomus
Damn, bro, you were in every high school.
35:12
Allen Catell
Yeah, man. Come on. For the people, you know, bus and.
35:16
DJ Whippopatomus
Moves no matter what area. Yeah, no, that's what's up though. Yeah. So how would you describe the music scene in the 75 is definitely.
35:30
Allen Catell
It's like a living, breathing organism, you know? Yeah.
35:35
DJ Whippopatomus
That's a fact. That's a good way to put it.
35:37
Allen Catell
A lot of. I feel like people who have like certain opinions of the scene.
35:44
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, yeah.
35:44
Allen Catell
Is like one certain opinion. But like, it's like crazy. Like every genre you could possibly think of. And it's like so amazing to just see it flourish the way it has, like, since I was a teenager.
35:59
DJ Whippopatomus
Facts. Yeah.
36:00
Allen Catell
Like my big homie. Shout out. Uncle Ray. Okay. Shout out. Yeah, shout out. Raymond, he's front man for this crazy sick ass band, the crime Line. They threw down over the weekend.
36:13
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, yeah. You posted that on your story, right?
36:15
Allen Catell
Yeah, yeah. I think I followed him. Yeah. But it's like that, like. Like I could go from the crime mind show to where it's like you're marching in the pit to 20 minutes later we're getting Palomas at the disco bar. Thank you. Down the street to wake up the next day, we got to go to the rap show, hit the studio and then to let's go jam out and play some guitar on the beach. You know what I'm saying?
36:42
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, I love it.
36:43
Allen Catell
Like the heart of it all. For it was probably the easiest way to put it.
36:47
DJ Whippopatomus
Right. Yeah. That's what I'm trying to tell people out here about it.
36:50
Allen Catell
It's amazing. I love it.
36:52
DJ Whippopatomus
No, that's the real beach. Yeah.
36:53
Allen Catell
Beach Boy heart. Yeah.
36:55
DJ Whippopatomus
I see what the beach all the time, but yeah. Yeah. When I came back from the army, like, I noticed that it had changed a Lot. Because I feel like when. When I was in high school, there wasn't as much support for it as there is now and.
37:09
Allen Catell
Oh, yeah, no, yeah. It was definitely like, oh, so you're doing your little show on the weekend, so, like, yo, which show are we going to exactly? Like, like, literally in the switch of maybe like six years of that.
37:23
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. People finally started to get it, I guess.
37:26
Allen Catell
Yeah, it's. It's super.
37:28
DJ Whippopatomus
Is actually kind of cool.
37:30
Allen Catell
It's literally like, come on, man.
37:33
DJ Whippopatomus
But, yeah. So who are some of your favorite artists now? We talked about who you listened to.
37:37
Allen Catell
As a kid nowadays.
37:40
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
37:41
Allen Catell
Current Joy, for sure.
37:43
DJ Whippopatomus
You just saw them, right?
37:44
Allen Catell
Yeah.
37:45
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, yeah. Oh, you didn't. Weren't you saying earlier that was like, one of your inspirations for guitar?
37:50
Allen Catell
Yeah, he's like, sorry, my voice.
37:53
Speaker 3
He's like.
37:55
Allen Catell
He's like. I'm like his biggest. Nah, Current Joy is definitely, like, definitely top five, for sure. I hate to say it, but, like, I've definitely. I feel like all my friends know it too. For sure. I'm like, Ended up falling way more into the indie scene.
38:14
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
38:14
Allen Catell
Nowadays, I feel it. I can't even tell you who my favorite rapper. Probably Mac DeMarco. Mac Miller, man.
38:27
DJ Whippopatomus
I'm sorry. That's so disrespectful. We were talking about Mac DeMarco.
38:31
Allen Catell
No, weren't talking about. I was trying to get him to. I was trying to get him to play Mac DeMarco in the air.
38:35
DJ Whippopatomus
I was like, no, we don't do that.
38:36
Allen Catell
But yeah, no, I definitely am like, more.
38:40
DJ Whippopatomus
Shout out Mac Miller real quick.
38:42
Allen Catell
Yeah, for real. Shout out to the late. Great. Yeah, I love him, but I mean. And I don't want people to just be like, oh, he's a rapper and his favorite rapper is Mac Miller. But it's like, I. It's just. I don't know. I just tuned into. I've always wanted to explore the other side.
39:03
DJ Whippopatomus
The other side of what?
39:05
Allen Catell
Music, quote unquote, growing up.
39:07
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Yeah.
39:08
Allen Catell
I was like, predominantly, like, always the one black kid in my group of friends.
39:12
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
39:13
Allen Catell
Like, real type time. Like, too white for the black kids, too black for the white.
39:18
DJ Whippopatomus
So funny. But it used to be like, the white kids.
39:20
Allen Catell
For me, the white. The white kids would always be like, yo, like, you're cool, right? And I'm not saying it like that. I know people are gonna be like, oh, my God. But, you know.
39:30
DJ Whippopatomus
But we already know.
39:31
Allen Catell
That's just how it was. Like, especially growing up in the beach, just like Skating all the time. And it's just that's. And yeah, like I said, I started rapping super young and then I was like, I gotta. I want to play guitar.
39:45
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
39:46
Allen Catell
My mom never bought me a guitar. Yeah. So like when I dove into it, like I just dove head first and like.
39:52
DJ Whippopatomus
Right, right.
39:53
Allen Catell
I think more like how I said my brother and sister's taste of music has a big influence on me. I think that's where it comes from too because they're both pretty alternative to. Yeah, keep up with everything going on. But I don't know, just something about that. I don't know. Yeah, I just like the weird, wonky same.
40:11
DJ Whippopatomus
No, I feel you. I'm right there with you. So yeah, I like to ask a few, I guess more personal questions because I like to get to know the person behind the artist.
40:21
Allen Catell
Let's dig into this.
40:23
DJ Whippopatomus
Yes, sir. First of all, I wanted to ask, how would you describe your fashion sense?
40:31
Allen Catell
That's crazy. I don't even know. I kind of just be like, here, I'll go first.
40:35
DJ Whippopatomus
I like messing with different colors. Trying to get away from jeans though. I'm wearing jeans right now. I'm not going to buy any more jeans.
40:41
Allen Catell
That's crazy. Actually just super started getting into like baggy denim, like dad jeans. Because my vibe, honestly like for. I just try and keep it. Like I hate saying it so much, but I've come to the terms and acceptance of the facts. But like I'm. I'm just a hipster. Yeah. I hate it. I hate it.
41:01
DJ Whippopatomus
I hate it.
41:01
Allen Catell
Dude, I hate it. I'm such a hipster and it's so terrible. It's like my worst trait. Like new will come out and everybody will be like, yo, did you, did you listen to this or did you see this? Did you watch this? And I would like purposely be like, I ain't watching that, man. Nah, I ain't listen to it. And then like I was like finally like peep game like two years later, like it's cuz I'm a. It's the worst. But I'd say at the end of the day for just a beach boy, like whether it's like my corduroy or my denims, gotta have the double cuff.
41:37
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
41:37
Allen Catell
You know what I'm saying? I'm probably feel it wearing love the corduroys, some type of version of vans or trucks.
41:43
DJ Whippopatomus
Right.
41:43
Allen Catell
I'm trying to break into docks. I can't really get into it. I like not the blue kinds, but like the. Like the 1970. Like. Or not like 1980, like Morrissey kind of docs, you know, I'm talking about, like the shoe gaze kind of. They look like dress shoes, but they're not word. Getting those. But I don't know, I've just always some type of sneaker, I guess, and then just.
42:05
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Yeah.
42:05
Allen Catell
I really love corduroys.
42:07
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Yeah.
42:08
Allen Catell
I feel that khakis used to be my favorite pair of pants, but apparently khakis are lame choice in pants, and my friends were picking on me for that, so I got it. Corduroy. Nah, bro. For real. For real. You know what the best.
42:22
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
42:22
Allen Catell
Fit is?
42:23
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Yeah. What's up?
42:24
Allen Catell
A good pair of overalls.
42:27
DJ Whippopatomus
Facts. Oh, I love that.
42:29
Allen Catell
I got like, four pairs of overalls.
42:30
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, you gonna be on stage with some overalls.
42:33
Allen Catell
Oh, dude, come on, man. That's like. That's like waking out of bed and walking around the house with my PJs, my overalls.
42:40
DJ Whippopatomus
All right, so my next question. What is your favorite local restaurant in the 757?
42:47
Allen Catell
Oh, whoa.
42:48
Speaker 3
Yeah.
42:50
DJ Whippopatomus
People get excited for this question.
42:51
Allen Catell
Oh, you gotta give me a second on this.
42:54
DJ Whippopatomus
All right, let me see. Let me just shout out because, like, we're in Carolina.
42:59
Allen Catell
Yeah.
43:00
DJ Whippopatomus
Carolina doesn't have Wawa. And so people don't know about that. And that. That's been my go to.
43:05
Allen Catell
You got sheets, though, don't you?
43:07
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, yeah. There is.
43:07
Allen Catell
She.
43:08
DJ Whippopatomus
I have.
43:08
Allen Catell
I don't think war between people who have sheets and people who have wawa. People have wall were like sheets, and the people have sheets are like wawa. Then there's also a lot of people that like sheets.
43:20
DJ Whippopatomus
Dante shaking his head over here. Dante hates Wawa.
43:24
Allen Catell
Dante's just a hater.
43:29
DJ Whippopatomus
No, what's funny, though, is I don't think I've been to his sheets in North Carolina. I've been to them, like, in Pennsylvania mainly. There's a lot of sheets in Pennsylvania, too, but. Yeah. What's your favorite local? You be eating out a lot? Let's see.
43:44
Allen Catell
I used to be a sous chef, man.
43:46
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, that's a fact.
43:47
Allen Catell
Yeah, I used to cook. I used to run a kitchen for like two and a half ish years, but worked in the kitchen for five.
43:52
DJ Whippopatomus
And you seem to like burgers a lot, bro.
43:57
Allen Catell
You gotta. It's all. First off, it's all about the smash burger.
44:00
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
44:01
Allen Catell
You gotta have the right bun.
44:02
DJ Whippopatomus
What's the word? Unami or something.
44:04
Allen Catell
You know, who has the best burger. People are gonna get mad at this if they Hit us back home. Shout out La Grande kitchen.
44:12
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
44:13
Allen Catell
Grand kitchen. They got the perfect buns. Sesame buns.
44:18
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
44:18
Allen Catell
A certain type of seismic bun.
44:19
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
44:20
Allen Catell
I got the thick cut bacon. They got the crisp, shredded lettuce. Shout out Ray. He always hook up from Crime Line. Ho. Shout out Crimeline. Crime Line is a grand kitchen. Shout out Steve. And the. I'm sorry, I don't know the other rest of the band members on a first name basis, but shout out Crimeline. Shout out the grand. One of the best burgers. And then besides there, I'd probably say perfect hangover care. I'm getting MP Island.
44:46
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay. That's another restaurant.
44:47
Allen Catell
Yeah. Jamaica Spot.
44:48
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, yeah. Damn. I gotta check.
44:50
Allen Catell
That's like the perfect hangover kit every single time. Large oxtail. Yo. Large oxtail with the yams and the. Nah, I switched over. I used to get yams in the Mac, but then I switched to large oxtail and the yellow rice and the Mac, extra Mac and then get oxtail gravy. Drizzle all over, bro.
45:10
DJ Whippopatomus
My stomach is growling.
45:12
Allen Catell
What? A chicken patty.
45:12
DJ Whippopatomus
All right, next question. Before I eat this mic. Are you a cat person, dog person, or do you prefer another pet? Completely.
45:24
Allen Catell
My roommates. All my. All three of my roommates have cats.
45:27
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, they do. I love it. I love coming up.
45:30
Allen Catell
I'm a dog person.
45:33
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, do they know? Yeah, okay.
45:39
Allen Catell
Yeah, no, I'm a dog person.
45:40
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay. Bet, bet. Good to know. Yeah, I definitely. I love both. As you know, I have a dog and a cat.
45:46
Allen Catell
Yeah.
45:47
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, they. They play fight. You haven't seen them play fight yet. They go. They go hard.
45:52
Allen Catell
It's crazy.
45:53
DJ Whippopatomus
Cat's head will be in the dog's mouth. But yeah, I like cats. Their personality is just a little different. They're a little more independent, a little more misunderstood, which I appreciate.
46:04
Allen Catell
Yeah.
46:05
DJ Whippopatomus
All right, last question before we start closing things out. How many hours of sleep do you usually get a night?
46:14
Allen Catell
Even a Dante knows this question. Yeah. And the answer to this question is horrible. Sometimes, dude, that can go from anywhere from like eight hours.
46:24
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
46:25
Allen Catell
To like nine hours to literally like an hour and a half. Like two hours. Like, I have probably the worst sleep scale. I'm probably. I think I'm running off, like, four and a half hours of sleep right now.
46:39
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
46:40
Allen Catell
Yeah. Now my sleep schedule is horrible.
46:43
DJ Whippopatomus
Thanks.
46:43
Allen Catell
Completely. I wish. I wish it was so much better. Like, I got a Cali king size.
46:48
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
46:48
Allen Catell
So when I clock in, bro, I'm clocked in. But I don't know. Duty calls. Are his Life. And I just be on it.
46:55
Speaker 3
I just.
46:56
Allen Catell
I'd be on my hardest to be on the go at all times.
46:59
DJ Whippopatomus
Facts.
46:59
Allen Catell
I feel that I'm definitely taking fat naps all the time.
47:01
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
47:04
Allen Catell
I'm ready.
47:04
DJ Whippopatomus
Let's go get cozy real quick. Yeah, yeah, I'm with that all the way. All right. Is there anything else you like to let the listeners know where you. Where they can find your music, your socials, etc?
47:15
Allen Catell
Yeah, Twitter, Instagram, SoundCloud, all the same. You can follow me at Alecatel, like, literally at. And then a double L, E, N, C, a double T, E, double L. Yes, sir. Allen Catell you're gonna think it's spelled like cattle, but it's not. It's. It's the L's. Then you Alecatel and yeah, same with all streaming services. Like I said, EP coming up very shortly around the corner. Like, I would. By the time this is out, I would expect it to be, like, following, like, by the day.
47:56
DJ Whippopatomus
All right.
47:57
Allen Catell
And yeah, it'd be a few weeks. Yeah. And album coming very soon. Following up the ep. Mina Dante have two short films.
48:08
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, okay.
48:10
Allen Catell
Like, hell yeah. What? Four? What is it? Five videos for four. I haven't. He and Dante's in the corner talking about I'm a little diva and want to keep wanting to do things before. I'll be like, yo, this is the last thing. And I'll come back and be like, yo, I got another idea. So it's literally turned into two projects. Two short films. Like, four videos, I think. And we have. But I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. It's all. It's all. It's all done. It's all done.
48:36
DJ Whippopatomus
Hey, that's. That's why Johnny Appleseed's on your ass.
48:39
Allen Catell
Yeah, I know. He's. Yeah, that's what. What a manager's for.
48:45
DJ Whippopatomus
I guess that's a fact.
48:47
Allen Catell
More like a babysitter.
48:50
DJ Whippopatomus
All right, well, man, this has been a true pleasure. I really appreciate you.
48:54
Allen Catell
This has been a pleasure, man. Thank you for having me on here.
48:56
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, you already know. Yeah, I appreciate you sharing your story, for real.
49:00
Allen Catell
Hey, man, what. What does Johnny C. Say? There's no what. There's no school like the old school. I don't know. That cat's crazy. But no, thank you for having me on, man. Really appreciate it.
49:12
DJ Whippopatomus
You already know, and I appreciate each and every single one of you for tuning in. You can check out the interview I did with other local artists at wknc.org/podcast and click on Off the Record. I am DJ Whippopatomus and I was here with Allen Catell. Allen Catell, everyone, on WKNC 88.1 FM, HD1, Raleigh. I'mma send y’all off with one more song by Allen Catell called Daydreams. Don't forget we are stronger together. So show each other some love, y’all.
49:48
Allen Catell
Be easy.
50:14
Music
[ALLEN CATELL – DAYDREAMS]