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We talk to Brian Casel about launching ZipMessage and growing a SaaS business (vs a productize service). We talk to him about his previous business successes, how he got started programming, and how he's thinking about growing ZipMessage.

Show Notes

We talk to Brian Casel about launching ZipMessage and growing a SaaS business (vs a productize service). We talk to him about his previous business successes, how he got started programming, and how he's thinking about growing ZipMessage.


00:00 Intro
01:08 Brian's backstory
05:35 Scaling by hiring more people
09:40 ZipMessage
12:22 Audience Ops
13:14 Move towards software businesses
18:14 Christian's backstory
20:42 Chris's backstory
21:38 Tech stack: Rails vs React vs Laravel
28:24 ZipMessage company structure
30:26 Business structure: selling just part of an LLC
33:13 What to spending money on
38:18 Freemium
42:44 Buying a Tesla
48:01 Reading books
49:29 Investing thoughts
54:23 Outro

Timestamps created with https://clips.marketing by @cgenco

https://zipmessage.com/
https://twitter.com/casjam

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Chris and Christian build some software businesses.