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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, Chris, good morning, good morning. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>a whole night, good morning, good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. I like how you went the whole time. That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>That was that was a percussion right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's so happy. Yeah, we're so happy when you

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<v Speaker 3>sing that. No, it's oh we are that. That's everybody's

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<v Speaker 3>second favorite. It's not true segment yet at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, but I do like to sing good morning because,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, you know why I like kids? Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, you're kidding me all my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, the the reason why I like that little segment

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<v Speaker 1>is because I love that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>We watched that movie time and time all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>My son started dating somebody, uh you know, uh two

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriends ago, and and said something about Seeing in the

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<v Speaker 1>Rain and she says, what are you talking about, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she's all like twenty five years old whatever, And.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, what are you talking You've never seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>So they sat down. One of the first things he

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<v Speaker 1>did is he said, you have to see this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she hated it. And so they don't, right, right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>she loved it. So do your kids like it when

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<v Speaker 3>you talk about them on a podcast from stage?

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<v Speaker 1>You're so used to it that I honestly don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it is a negative, Nora positive.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So both of my sons will go, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 3>you told that story, right, So they're not mad at me.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just like, oh my gosh, dad. Right, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>my daughter loves it. So I dropped her off today, right,

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<v Speaker 3>We were sharing a car today, so I dropped her

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<v Speaker 3>off at work before I came here. And she's twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>and she goes, hey, you can say anything about me

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<v Speaker 3>today on the podcast, And I said, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, it's been a while, right, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so you talked about Jenna, about her talking

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<v Speaker 1>about you talking about it, you're talking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's funny, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Okay, Today we're moving into a segment that

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<v Speaker 1>desert is prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>For us called would you Rather?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there's there's the new slogan for would you rather,

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<v Speaker 1>just screaming would you rather?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So we're just gonna pick uh pick one? So here

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<v Speaker 2>we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you rather sip hot cocoa by a cozy fire

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<v Speaker 3>every evening?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Or spend the day skiing down a mountain?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I do like skiing, but one requires efforts and one

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<v Speaker 1>is super lazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just I love doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>You love doing nothing and coco buy a cozy fire?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it is nice. Scheme requires cold too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah wow, right, except yourself you're kind of sweaty. It

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<v Speaker 3>takes a lot of work. So you know, I've never

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<v Speaker 3>snow skied.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, Ever, I think you've passed your prime.

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<v Speaker 3>Buddy, I lived, I lived on water skis, but I

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<v Speaker 3>never snow skied.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you may. You may have missed the window there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well hey, which, by the way, I'm totally kidding. Fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three is not missing the window. But look at this.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, would you rather sit pot cocoa by a

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<v Speaker 1>fire every evening or spend one day skiing down the mountain?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Or is it meaning spent the day the day?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it meaning the day?

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<v Speaker 3>She doesn't say every day every day? That is singular.

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<v Speaker 2>That's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Then yeah, then you're committing to every evening with hot

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<v Speaker 1>cocoa or one day skiing all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes it like weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Decision like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>My only decision is I have to sit by the

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<v Speaker 3>fire drinking hot cocoa because I've never skied before.

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<v Speaker 2>But I could try it for one day. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean you can't try it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I want to try it. I want to try skiing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay for one day, you break your break your knee.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So Number two, would you rather have your holiday lights

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<v Speaker 1>up all year long?

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<v Speaker 2>No, thank you? Or never have to untangle them again?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, of course I'd want to never have to untangle

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<v Speaker 3>them again.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you literally saying you're that person where you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to leave your Christmas lights up in July?

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't say I have to leave them up. These

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<v Speaker 3>are two different opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>It says have your holiday lights up all year long, or.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't say or leave them up. She's giving us

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<v Speaker 3>two choices.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I see what you're saying. You're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>The way the sentence structure is, that's that little lawyer

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<v Speaker 3>in my head again. The way the sentence structure is

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<v Speaker 3>is she's giving us two choices. It's not one or

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<v Speaker 3>the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's weird too, because I know it's a negative in

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<v Speaker 1>the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, she's writing it like it's a positive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, would you rather? Do you think it'd be great

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<v Speaker 3>to keep your Christmas lights up?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's like not have to hang them.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to give you one of two choices. You

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<v Speaker 3>can leave your Christmas lights up forever, yay, or you

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<v Speaker 3>can never have to untangle your your Christmas lights again.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but I read the first as a massive

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<v Speaker 1>negative because then you're the jerk in the sub with

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas lights in July, which we have one of those.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, we have a guy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, they weren't just like like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>those like really nice lights along the trim, which sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you can't see those. These were I'm not even kidding you,

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<v Speaker 1>icic no icicle lights. They kind of hang down like this.

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<v Speaker 1>And then here's what's even worse. I'm trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic here. They weren't hung correctly. They droop so so

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<v Speaker 1>droopy icicle lights all the way year long.

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<v Speaker 2>I literally that should be an episode of What makes

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Mad?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, maybe save it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna talk about this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we have that this week? Oh? It's coming up

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<v Speaker 3>this Friday, is it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're gonna hear that again, folks.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, he's gonna be irate.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna expand on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Would you rather be a professional ice skater or

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<v Speaker 3>champion snowboarder for the winter season? Well, I wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to be a champion snowboarder for the summer season.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, professional ice skater or a champion snowboarder. Between those two,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would rather be a professional ice skater.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you'd say that. I was gonna say snowboarder.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, well you've never even skied.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think you liked the idea of wearing tight,

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<v Speaker 3>shiny clothes.

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<v Speaker 2>Spinning will Pharaoh played that, played that one? Whatever it was. No,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the reason why.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the costumes. That's why.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, really, that's where you went to.

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<v Speaker 3>The singing and dancing. It's the secret. We know, we

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<v Speaker 3>know it's And it's the singing and dancing. We know,

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<v Speaker 3>we know all about you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it is it is way more impressive in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind to watch the performance of a professional ice skater

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<v Speaker 1>than it is to watch somebody navigate a hill like

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<v Speaker 1>like they're like, oh look another swish, Oh look.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the professional snowboarders are unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course they are, but they didn't say tricks.

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<v Speaker 3>I get so when the snowboarders are going, I sit

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<v Speaker 3>down and watch the snowboarders, and I get drug in

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<v Speaker 3>to watch the ice skating by the females in my family.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, so anyways, we need to move on.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, but now, tricks are one thing. Snowboarders who

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<v Speaker 1>do tricks on pipes and things like half pipes, that'd

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<v Speaker 1>be I would choose.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm a champion snowboarder, so I can do all

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<v Speaker 3>tricks I want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>All right? Fine? Number four?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, would you rather have a winter holiday every year

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<v Speaker 1>in a tropical destination or somewhere cold with tons of

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<v Speaker 1>snow and winter activities? Let me think which one. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me pray about this one. It would have to be

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<v Speaker 1>the number one topical destination. Yes, oh, I would rather

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<v Speaker 1>have a winter holiday with lots of snow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not mebe I love it now. I want the

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<v Speaker 3>snow to go away three days after Christmas, right by

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<v Speaker 3>New year. I wish all the snow was gone, but

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<v Speaker 3>for that little stretch between like Thanksgiving and Christmas. I

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<v Speaker 3>love the snow on the trees and the.

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<v Speaker 1>But they say, they say a winter holiday and a

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<v Speaker 1>tropical destination. So it's assuming that you're having to put

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<v Speaker 1>winter activities.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's a winter holiday. Yeah, it's holiday. Holiday is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Word tons of snow and winter activities the.

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<v Speaker 3>Holiday for the holiday? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 3>for like, let's let's pick a winter holiday. How about Christmas?

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to have way more snow and fewer

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<v Speaker 3>palm trees for Christmas holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>I do you realize, lawyer, that what this is saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it saying, would you rather have be somewhere where

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<v Speaker 1>it's completely tropical and you have to celebrate a winter

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<v Speaker 1>holiday or somewhere where you have to endure the entire

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<v Speaker 1>season of tons of snow?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what It's not the entire season, it's the holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, no, the holiday refers to having to put

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<v Speaker 1>up with a winter holiday in a tropical season, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it's meaning.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you're saying that because she didn't say winter high

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<v Speaker 3>day somewhere cold. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not reading it

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<v Speaker 3>that way, but that's okay. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the point is I would I went down

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago and I skipped Christmas and I did

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas with the Cranks, and I did Disney and Universal

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<v Speaker 1>with my family in Saint Pete with with with where where.

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<v Speaker 2>My daughter lives.

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<v Speaker 1>We only went down for a week. We only did

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<v Speaker 1>Universal for a day, Disney for a day. But I

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<v Speaker 1>got to tell you something.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>Heaven, I love Disney. Yeah, I get it. I would

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<v Speaker 3>rather have it be the other way. I love Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you rather be able to create winter wonderland scenes

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<v Speaker 3>wherever you go? Or control how much snowfalls in your

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's a random question.

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<v Speaker 1>Be a magical wizard. People be like dude again right

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you could just do anything you want everywhere and

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<v Speaker 1>choose the first one too. Okay, yep, well that was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you got a couple of those answers right, Good.

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<v Speaker 2>Job, Yeah, thanks, Jeff, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>and he says, a wise woman builds her home, but

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<v Speaker 3>Those who follow the right path fear the Lord. Those

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<v Speaker 3>who take the wrong path despise him. A fool's talk

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<v Speaker 3>the wires keep them safe. Without oxen, a stable stays clean,

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<v Speaker 3>honest witness does not lie, A false witness breathes lies.

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<v Speaker 3>for you won't find knowledge in their lips. The prudent

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<v Speaker 3>understand where they're going, but fools deceive themselves. Fools make

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<v Speaker 3>Each heart knows its own bitterness, and no one else

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<v Speaker 3>will be destroyed, but the tent of the godly will flourish.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a path before each person that seems right,

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<v Speaker 3>but it ends in death. Laughter can conceal a heavy heart,

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<v Speaker 3>but when the laughter ends, the grief remains. Backsliders get

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<v Speaker 3>believe everything they're told. The prudent carefully consider their steaf

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<v Speaker 3>is he implying that not everything on the internet is true?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my goodness.

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<v Speaker 3>The wise are cautious and avoid danger. Fools plunge ahead

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<v Speaker 3>with reckless confidence. Short tempered people do foolish things, and

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<v Speaker 3>schemers are hated. Simpletons are clothed with foolishness, but the

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<v Speaker 3>prudent are crowned with knowledge. Evil people will bow before

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<v Speaker 3>good people. The wicked will bow at the gates of

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<v Speaker 3>the godly. The poor are despised even by their neighbors,

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<v Speaker 3>while the rich have many friends. Quote unquote, it is

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<v Speaker 3>a sin to belittle one's neighbor. Blessed are those who

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<v Speaker 3>help the poor. If you plan to do evil, you

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<v Speaker 3>will be lost. If you plan to do good, you

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<v Speaker 3>will receive unfailing love and faithfulness. Work brings profit, but

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<v Speaker 3>mere talk leads to poverty. Wealth is a crown for

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<v Speaker 3>the wise. The effort of fools yields only foolishness. A

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<v Speaker 3>truthful witness saves lives lives, but a false witness is

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<v Speaker 3>a traitor. Those who fear the Lord are secure. He

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<v Speaker 3>will be a refuge for their children. Fear of the

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<v Speaker 3>Lord is a life giving fountain. It offers escape from

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<v Speaker 3>the snares of death. A growing population is a king's glory.

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<v Speaker 3>A prince without subjects has nothing. People with understanding control

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<v Speaker 3>their anger. A hot temper shows great foolishness. A peaceful

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<v Speaker 3>heart leads to a healthy body. Jealousy is like cancer

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<v Speaker 3>in the bones. I love that one. Those who oppress

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<v Speaker 3>the poor insalt their maker, but helping the poor honors him.

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<v Speaker 3>The wicked are crushed by disaster, but the godly have

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<v Speaker 3>a refuge when they die. Wisdom is enshrined in an

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<v Speaker 3>understanding heart. Wisdom is not found among fools. Godliness makes

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<v Speaker 3>a nation great, but sin is a disgrace to any people.

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<v Speaker 3>A king rejoices in wise servants, but is angry with

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<v Speaker 3>those who disgrace him.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, there you go. Yeah, so thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>verses of nuggets of wisdom.

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<v Speaker 3>I like to call them wise sayings. That's what they

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<v Speaker 3>they're they're wise wise sayings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good job, Jeff, that's that's accurate.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey guy, let me write this down to Yeah, why

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<v Speaker 2>I slow down, professor.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you said in verse number fifteen, only simpletons

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<v Speaker 1>believe everything they're told, and you said, are they saying

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<v Speaker 1>everything on the internet, it's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, or CNN. Yeah, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, pretty much. It's it's so funny, how it's

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<v Speaker 2>so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>How my father, who is eighty he was born in

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine, so he's eighty five, right, And I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to tell him, uh, and again I wasn't trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get political at all. Right, I wasn't trying. I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to avoid that whole you know, everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just simply trying to tell him that it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting how I've been you know, I've been to Cuba, right,

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<v Speaker 1>i' I've been there four times, so, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>used to think that Cuba was so radically different than

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<v Speaker 1>America and then and now I'm like, huh, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I know that obviously we're leap years away from uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Cuba, but I never thought that that people would,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Castro was famous for doing, just controlling the

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<v Speaker 1>information that came in. And I said, I do believe

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<v Speaker 1>some of that. You know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist

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<v Speaker 1>to the maximum degree, right, but I do believe that

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<v Speaker 1>some of that happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, You're talking about the just between the Cuban government

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<v Speaker 3>the Cuban people. We had a belief that the Cuban

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<v Speaker 3>people hated us, right, Is that what you're saying, No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying times that the Cuban people are really nice people.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, you know what I'm saying is I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought that America would behave like Cubans. I'm saying, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, like I thought we had.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh control, complete government control. Yeah, yeah, completely, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the news was completely impartial, right, And now

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm understanding that, like, oh, there is an agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people in power, they give you the news

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Now again it's not it's not anywhere near. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to tell my dad this, and I said.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, yeah, I said that controlling of information.

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<v Speaker 1>Controlling of information, I said, I said, yeah. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're a little bit more like Cuban than I than

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<v Speaker 1>I want us to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And my dad says, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, and so he started naming all these

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<v Speaker 1>different things, and he couldn't wrap his mind around the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that that, you know, that the people in the

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that. And I said, and so he started

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<v Speaker 1>naming things, and I said so, and I was just

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of this verse.

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<v Speaker 2>Only simpletons believe everything they're told, right, I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, like, you know, I love my dad but I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to be kidding me, right, So anyway, and

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<v Speaker 1>he also didn't understand algorithms, and he's like the only

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's different generation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, different generations.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is I'm gonna My wife already knows exactly

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<v Speaker 2>So she already knows that.

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<v Speaker 1>Proverbs fourteen, verse number four, when it talks about this

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<v Speaker 1>without auction, the stable stays clean.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of my favorite verses.

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<v Speaker 1>But you need a strong ox for the large harvest.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it one of your favorite verses? Why is

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<v Speaker 1>it one of your favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead and say what you're going to say, and

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<v Speaker 3>then i'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So my youth pastor said that that was a

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<v Speaker 3>Did Iver say this?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So he said, uh, without auction, the stable stays clean.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you know what, he goes without teenagers. Your

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<v Speaker 1>carpet stays clean without teenagers. He said, teenagers are messy.

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<v Speaker 1>in a church, and our church was a smaller church,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a couple hundred people. So he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>without teenagers, he said, everything would be you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>The ceiling from a gay right.

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<v Speaker 1>He's you know, he says, you know, without without ox,

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<v Speaker 1>and the crib is clean, right, he said, imagine in

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<v Speaker 1>a farm, he said, you had no ox, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>there'd be nothing to clean in the stall. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be perfect, and you would have a nice, perfect stall.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, but much increase comes from the strength of

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<v Speaker 1>the ox. And he talked about the driving force of

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<v Speaker 1>a youth ministry because when a youth ministry is on

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<v Speaker 1>fire and it's strong and it's going forward, he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's messy, but how much can it do for the

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<v Speaker 1>Kingdom of God? Because teenagers on fire from God can

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So that was it. That's that's essentially my view

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<v Speaker 3>as the big picture, the whole ministry in general. Anything

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<v Speaker 3>worth doing is probably going to be a little messy, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And so there there's the kind of person who wants

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<v Speaker 3>control first, managed first, and and and you and I

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<v Speaker 3>know people who tend to take every idea and scale

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<v Speaker 3>it back to what is manageable right, to keep it

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<v Speaker 3>neat and buttoned up just right, all this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm almost exactly the opposite. I'm gonna take any

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<v Speaker 3>idea and maximize it out as far as possible. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's less. Management's gonna be messier, for sure, but that

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<v Speaker 3>large harvest comes because we're maximizing. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's you know, everything worth doing in my world

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<v Speaker 3>gets a little messy, and that's okay. Just we'll clean

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<v Speaker 3>it all by hand, right right, And so that ox

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<v Speaker 3>is what is the force multiplier. So for those of

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<v Speaker 3>anything like for instance, Special Forces, they I was just

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<v Speaker 3>I like the spec Forces stuff. I read a lot

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<v Speaker 3>about generals and kernels that are helping train our special forces.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that stuff. And they talk about this idea

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<v Speaker 3>of having a force multiplier. So if we have soldiers

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<v Speaker 3>in the bag and the you know, the enemy has soldiers,

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<v Speaker 3>then what we're looking for is how do we multiply

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<v Speaker 3>the impact of the soldiers that we have to overcome

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<v Speaker 3>the impact of soldiers they have. And that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be through vehicles, it's going to be through superior weapons,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be through superior training, whatever. Right, So

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<v Speaker 3>the Oxen here is the force multiplier. So you can

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<v Speaker 3>go do the work. If you want to go ahead,

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<v Speaker 3>get your little hoe out, get your little pick axe out,

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<v Speaker 3>smash up your ground. If you want to go ahead,

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<v Speaker 3>get get out your little grinder and try to smash

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<v Speaker 3>up all of the wheat that you want to and

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to get you know, after a long day

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<v Speaker 3>of hard work, you're going to get a little bushel

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<v Speaker 3>of flour. Great or you can go ahead and pay

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<v Speaker 3>the price of having a mess maker that is also

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<v Speaker 3>a force multiplier that then we'll be able to let

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<v Speaker 3>you do bushels and bushels of flower today instead of

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<v Speaker 3>a bushel of flower through hard work of your own right.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you can do that force multiplier and you can

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<v Speaker 3>plow the entire field today and the field next to

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<v Speaker 3>it instead of just trying to carve out this a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit with your own pickaxe. Right. So I'm constantly

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<v Speaker 3>trying to figure out I think the best leaders don't

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<v Speaker 3>just try to figure out how to maximize their work.

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<v Speaker 3>They're trying to figure out how to find the force

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<v Speaker 3>multipliers that will take you way further. There's the mess

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<v Speaker 3>in that, the management of that. You hire highly talented people,

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<v Speaker 3>there's always I've said this before. You know, genius has

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<v Speaker 3>an equal and opposite corresponding deficit always, and so the

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<v Speaker 3>more genius you hire, the more trouble you're also hiring

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<v Speaker 3>on the other side of that, Right, there's always that difficulty.

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<v Speaker 3>But those kind of people become great force multipliers. You

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<v Speaker 3>just have to be willing to clean up the pen

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<v Speaker 3>every once in a while. Wow, I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know what I thought of immediately is that

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of World War Two, as the Germans

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<v Speaker 1>were losing the war, they wanted, therefore multiplier to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the research that they were doing with this poisonous

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<v Speaker 1>gas until Wonder Woman along, Oh no, and then uh

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<v Speaker 1>and then finally took out you know, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the evil scientists.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't think that's what he's talking about here.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you also know that in the Marvel universe,

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<v Speaker 1>the Red Skull thought the force multiplier for his German army,

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<v Speaker 1>German Army in World War Two was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the test erect, so he created all sorts of weapons

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<v Speaker 1>you know that have blue rag guns.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in Indiana Jones, they thought it was going to

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<v Speaker 3>be the Lost Arc.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, the force multiplier that's also Germans.

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<v Speaker 3>I say, yeah, wow, how about that?

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So none of those things it is for a wonder

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<v Speaker 1>Woman in Captain America and Harrison Ford.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right, Indiana Jones. So that's not what he's

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<v Speaker 3>talking about here. But this this idea that just understand,

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<v Speaker 3>the greater the work, the more you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>have a force multiplier. Those force multipliers create a mess,

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<v Speaker 3>which creates other work, right right, But that's okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's great because what you're working for and this verse

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<v Speaker 3>really is all about impact. That's really what I's talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead of don't just do work, do work for impact,

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<v Speaker 3>have the greatest impact the most effective things, not the

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<v Speaker 3>most efficient things. So there's a predisposition and a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of especially among a lot of my engineer friends, to

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<v Speaker 3>work for efficiency. And I say, let's work for effectiveness first.

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<v Speaker 3>Efficiency second. So once we figure out the effective thing,

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<v Speaker 3>now let's make that as efficient as possible without changing effectiveness.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you start the other way, let's do the

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<v Speaker 3>thing as effectively or as efficiently as possible. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of times you then throttle back effectiveness. And that's really

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<v Speaker 3>what this verse is about. That's how it is a

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<v Speaker 3>genius that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Also turns out I think he's a wise man, which

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<v Speaker 2>is hence.

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<v Speaker 1>Why says Professor so verse of her twelve says, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a path before each person that seems right, but it

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<v Speaker 1>ends in death, and it is. Remember several podcasts ago,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd made mention about somebody who sort of wakes up

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<v Speaker 1>and says, what was I thinking? You know, if you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever done that, it's like it's like there's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>path that is before you know, a man or a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and they think that's it's it seems right,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's the right thing in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you look back and you realize, man, that

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<v Speaker 1>was taking me down the wrong road right. And and

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<v Speaker 1>people do this obviously with addiction all the time. They

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<v Speaker 1>do this with inappropriate relationships all the time. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they step out thinking, oh, this is the right thing,

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<v Speaker 1>this feels good, this is this is what's best for me.

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<v Speaker 2>And then or they just weren't thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>They were just thinking the thrill of things, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were just thinking, well, it's it's not good, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's thrilling and I can control it, or it's a

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<v Speaker 1>harmless or it's not going to cause damage.

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<v Speaker 2>And then and then on the other end they go,

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<v Speaker 2>what was I thinking? And I always think of this verse.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a ray.

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<v Speaker 1>That you know, and we learned it in the King James.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a way that seemeth right to.

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<v Speaker 2>A man, an unto.

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<v Speaker 1>A man, but it ends in death and uh, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It is true in the end. It leadeth to death.

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<v Speaker 1>Leadeth to death, all jeeves, all the old English talk.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, the point is is that it is important

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<v Speaker 1>to recognize that sometimes when you're convinced of something. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to be open to the fact that we're not

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<v Speaker 1>thinking correctly. We need to be open to the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that there's wisdom and council. There's wisdom in those around us,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not the thing that we want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>in the moment because we want.

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<v Speaker 2>What we want. Stop telling me to stop wanting what

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<v Speaker 2>I want.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, the implication there is and we'll have to

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<v Speaker 3>wrap up here, but there is a path for each

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<v Speaker 3>person that seems right. This is another one of those

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<v Speaker 3>heart things, right right, So he's always telling you don'trust

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<v Speaker 3>your heart. Get wise, counsel wise, counsel from God comes

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<v Speaker 3>from God's word and God's people, right that, that's what

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<v Speaker 3>he's saying there, don't just trust your gut again. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>That well, there's probably more to unpack and we had

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<v Speaker 1>we had a big long session here if that's our time,

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<v Speaker 1>so hopefully we'll see you next time on the Bible, guys,