The Art of the Zag

AI now polls worse than ICE. Joe and Shane break down five stories of the AI revolt: booed CEOs, Gen Z sabotage, a $500M Claude Code bill, and the parent rebellion nobody’s pricing in. 

Chapters:
(00:00) The AI backlash is everywhere
(03:00) AI now polls worse than ICE
(08:15) The real story of the Luddites
(17:05) Eric Schmidt gets booed
(29:42) Is the jobpocalypse canceled?
(48:08) The $500M Claude Code bill
(01:02:45) Parents vs. AI in NYC schools
(01:08:51) Joe's 2028 election prediction

What is The Art of the Zag?

Best-selling authors and long-time buddies Shane Snow and Joe Lazer explore how to win by zagging when everyone else is zigging—in business and in life. Learn breakthrough strategies for building trust, telling better stories, and winning the AI Age from the world's most innovative founders, authors, and icons. Have an idea for a guest? Email guest@joelazer.com.

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