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Poduty and the News. What a great guest I have coming

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up this morning. Bubba starts. Bubba, welcome to the show.

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Jeff, thanks for having me, man. This is a pleasure to be here with you

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this morning. I saw your live yesterday and you were

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outside, you were bundled up. It looked like a blizzard compared

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to the weather we have here in Pittsburgh. Where were you? You were just walking

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around in like a white out condition. What kind of weather did you have

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yesterday? Just a little bit of snow. Kind of our first

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snow of the year here in South Dakota. A little bit

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late actually for what we usually get, but

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not quite white out. Sometimes it'll snow horizontally.

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So what's do you know about how much

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average snowfall you get out there? You probably get more wind than snow. I would

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guess here in eastern South Dakota, it's

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considerably less. I'm not sure what we average, but the town that I

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grew up in, in the mountains in western South Dakota, in the Black Hills,

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we average like 280 inches a year. Oh,

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280. I think Pittsburgh is like 50.

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We're probably closer to that in eastern South Dakota, but like you said, it

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all kind of blows in and blows out here on the plains.

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Yeah. Well, Bubba, I

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have just one question for you.

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Do you know what time it is? It's time for Poduty and the News.

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What time is it?

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Podcasting from the stage.

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The only live news podcast about

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podcasting from the stage.

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Poduty and the News. Bubba, welcome to the show. It's Bubba

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starts everybody. I love the theme song. I was

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grooving. Once that bass line kicks in,

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it gets you out of your seat, gets the blood pumping. We call this show

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Coffee with Poduty and the Crew. As of today, Bubba is

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officially part of the Poduty and the News Crew. And, and I got my

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coffee. All right, what we say is we're busy all

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week. We're doing things, we're planning events. Some of us are working full time jobs.

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We're recording a lot of podcasts in the evening. But Saturday is just like

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that time for podcasters. Let's sit back, let's have a cup of

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coffee together. Let's talk about what's going on in the podcast

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industry, what's going on with each other. And honestly, Bubba was

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probably one of the first people that reached out to me last June

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when I opened this theater space. And like almost instantly he,

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he got the concept. He was already like, let's do some events,

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let's start working together, how can we support each other? And I was always really

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grateful for that conversation. And we reached out, we

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reconnected about two weeks ago and we booked this

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event and I was so excited to bring you back and always wanted to just

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publicly thank you. Like, you were there from the beginning and, and really

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kind of saw what this, like, DIY movement I'm trying to do here.

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event space. Right. I'm a musician, I've been a songwriter

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and, and for 25 years I've been doing nothing but live

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events and then got into podcasting. So where a

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lot of podcasters now are, like coming from their home studio

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and trying to figure out how to do that in the real world. I'm

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coming from the space of I have seen how to do this and

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have built a career out of building live events. Now I'm just putting

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microphones and cameras in these spaces, capturing it and bringing

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it out there. So when I saw you post about this show and,

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and what it means is like, well, this is a perfect fit for me and

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something that I can bring a lot of, you know, not just

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insight, but some great commentary on.

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Yeah, I think after we spoke that first time, you were like immediately

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leaving for a 20 city tour. Like, you just,

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like, I'm getting on the road tomorrow, I'll see you.

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angle to what I do. No longer am I just beholden to

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bars or restaurants that have live music and only

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having that one event. Now I can podcast and be in three or four

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different places during the day doing interviews, supporting

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local businesses and local artists, and then also

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performing at night so I can get out on the road. And it's

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not necessarily about a two to four hour performance now.

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you know, that's probably the reason that we won the Content Creator of the Year

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award this year from the Midwest Country Music Organization is

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that I'm not scared to put that microphone in anyone's face and to

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spotlight and showcase their business or

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and you're like, hey, I'm going to an award show. You did win the Content

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Midwest Country Music Organization where we won the award from.

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year. The show and the scene projects really kicked off

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from the Midwest Country Music Organization award

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show the year prior, where I just showed up. I had just started

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this podcast, but I knew that I was never going to have a

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better chance if artists were who I was interested in interviewing. I

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had an opportunity to sit down where I knew, you know, a couple hundred

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of them were going to be in one place at one time. So we brought

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our microphones with us to that first year in 2024,

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and I sat down and did 25 interviews at Jam Night the night before the

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show. And that kind of kick started

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our whole operation through the summer of 24 and into the

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fall. Obviously connecting with all these people and doing most of our

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interviews over, you know, Zoom or now Stream Yard like

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we're doing here today. I was able to capitalize off of all those

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connections that I already had kind of in. In my network.

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and to vote for us after we received the nomination. To

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be able to stand on that stage that a year prior, I had stood

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and been like, this is what I want to do. These are the people that

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I want to do it with. And now we're, you know, kind of

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leveraging that award into access to other

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award shows, like the Josie Music Awards down in Nashville.

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Jeff, I was just working the red carpet at the Grand Ole Opry House a

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few weeks ago. Oh, wow. That's incredible.

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That's like your Babe Ruth moment a year prior. You stood on that stage, and

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this is what I want. And then you. You set all that in motion with

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all that content, and. And you're doing something in a field that you

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love. Like you mentioned, you go tour. What else can I do while I'm on

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tour? Well, I can do a podcast show. I can meet the local talent. I

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can interview them, put them in the. In the spotlight. And it's

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just. It's one of these things, and you're in the perfect niche. And exactly what

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we talk about here is if you love something, there's other people who love

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what you do. They love the same things that you love. And you're bringing

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that community together through music, through these meetups

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and just connecting on a whole nother level that you couldn't do

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just by trying to sell a CD or download an MP3 file of your music.

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You're making these deeper connections. Right? And,

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you know Music has become so devalued in society

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now that, you know, the record companies and Spotify have kind

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of taken all the money out of it for independent creators, creators that

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I had to find something else. I had to adjust and you know,

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it was really a moment. And I had been doing the podcast for several

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months. But you know, coming into the election cycle last year,

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and no matter how you feel about it, we saw the impact of digital

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media, we saw the impact of social media and

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podcast, especially with something like Joe Rogan reaching

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millions of viewers. When Elon Musk stood on the stage and said, we are the

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media, I went, oh, he's talking to me. He's talking about us,

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Jeff. Right. So how do we start to do that?

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politics. We have a mental health network and

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where we can have a little bit deeper conversations that aren't just about music.

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I have four networks now that are all focused on

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something a little bit different and realizing that soaking up a little bit of that

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digital real estate, even if you don't have all of the content

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fleshed out, was the first thing. Go buy the properties, right?

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Go, go purchase the things and then you can build on top of that.

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So right now the Scene Project Sports Network is really starting to

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gain some traction. We're doing pregame shows for NFL teams

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and covering some pro wrestling content. I was at a PGA

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Tour event earlier this year. It's just been an incredible ride. But

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it's also predicated on the fact that one, I

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never stop talking, so that helps. And I'm willing to talk to

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anyone and support non profit local

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charities, local causes, wherever I am. And I think that's

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something that podcasters that are either just starting out now

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or looking how to elevate their platform. It's really something that you

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need to focus on and something we're going to talk a lot about with these

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news stories that we have today. And I'm keeping it with music on the

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first story. Are you ready to hit the first one? Yeah, let's get into it.

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We're going to ska her way. The Grammy

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Museum puts women front and center. This comes to us from

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MX Dwn. Tonight we skank into history

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as the Grammy Museum holds its first ever all female ska

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panel. Scott Her Way or Scott Scott or ska.

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Featuring icons like Dunia

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Best, Gina Rodriguez, Tara Hawn, Karina

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Danique, Queen P and more. This

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powerhouse LineUp packed the 200 seat Clive Davis Theater

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to celebrate women's long overlooked influence across

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all Waves of ska, from Jamaica's rebel roots to

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two tone to 90s ska punk. And today's revival

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stories range from battling sexism to confronting

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racism in the scene, to discovering community and empowerment on

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stage. It's a reminder that live events still matter. But

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put passionate creators in a room, give them a mic, and the

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culture reveals itself. And yes, there was even a

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podcast tie in with the history of LA SCA series,

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proving how live discussions can fuel long term

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content and community after the lights go down.

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Excuse me, I didn't get enough water before the show today, but

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this, this is exactly what Bubba's talking about. This is what

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Bubba's doing. You know, we'll elaborate a little on this, a little bit more,

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but bringing this community together. And in this case, here's a community that

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maybe got overlooked through a movement through, I think in the 90s.

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bands and was there enough recognition and

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this was a way to talk about, hey, you know, what we were contributing to

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were part of the scene. And not only that, we're probably a bigger

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part of the scene than many of the guys are. And this was a great

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way to recognize all that talent on, on one single stage

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and bring a community of like minded fans together.

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Bubba, I mean, if anybody can talk about this story, it's going to be you.

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I love what they did here. This is incredible.

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Exactly what we were just talking about, right? How do you take these

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live events and you're already doing these things and a lot of these panel

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or, you know, songwriter showcases or whatever it may be that are taking

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place in a live setting, they, they're all it.

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A podcast. Podcast is just life, right? Like, it's just

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capturing life as we know it. So anytime you can put

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a camera in front of somebody or capture the audio and

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repurposing that, it's, it's brilliant. When I saw

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this first story, I kind of got giddy because

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they had this live event. They had 200 people come out

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and they're making multimedia out of one single event.

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to be released, distributed, chopped up into shorts. It could

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be used for, for months to come, even to build and

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promote the next event that's coming up. And that's one of the

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most powerful things about live events is yes, you are getting this

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experience that you couldn't get. Just listening to a podcast, you would

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never recreate the energy of that room. You could never see the

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faces of the people who were answering the questions and how they think in

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the moment and how they react to crowd question and how they react to the

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fans. You'd only get the audio when you download the MP3

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3. But events like this really bring podcasts to life,

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right? And I'm not necessarily a podcast purist. To

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me, you know, YouTubers and those are

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podcasts, right? Like it's, it's all the same to me. I

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don't make a differentiation. That may put me in some hot water with

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some other people that have been podcasting for 10 years and

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feel that it's audio only, but it's content, right?

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And anytime that you can make one piece of content into

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four different platforms that it can now go to, it can be

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live, streamed as, you know, ticketed live event, then

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put out as a YouTube program and a podcast.

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You're really hitting on all facets of what, you

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know, where these people are at. Because everyone consumes content differently,

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right? A lot of our YouTube watchers are, aren't

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necessarily podcast listeners and vice versa. I was going to say

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has to be an MP3 file distributed by an RSS feed

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to an app or, you know, some sort of aggregator. And I held that

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position for years. And I wouldn't bend like no matter what

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kind of content you produced, you had to have at least

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that MP3 element to be a podcast.

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I'm so much more interested in the individual creating

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their own content and creating their own asset. How they distribute

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it and what they call it, I don't care. I want to support those

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independent creators who are taking the chance on themselves. They're rolling

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the dice for themselves and their future with not answering

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to anybody. They're creating their own media

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conglomerate, their own media assets, and that's, that's where we

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should focus our attention on not getting lost in the woods or in the

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weeds about what the definition of a podcast is. And you know,

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2017, Jeff would walk up on the stage and slap me and like, well, you're

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crazy. And. But this just like Bubba says, not

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everybody consumes POD or information the same way. Some people

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like to read, some people like to watch videos, some people like audiobooks. There's some

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people like reading books. You have to be there in the

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way that they want to consume that content and being able to do a live

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event, which might be a different way to consume content. People like to get out

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of their house. They like to sit down with people, mingle,

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have a meet and greet before and after, and then they may go back and

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listen to it anyway. I do that all the time. All the stuff I record,

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I end up listening to just because I want to remember

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that moment. Yeah. And it's not to say that every YouTube

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video is a podcast, right? Like, how to's on

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YouTube, teaching you how to do something like, that's not a podcast,

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but every podcast is a YouTube show,

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right? Like, if you're doing. If you're having a

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conversation with someone and at this point, because, you know,

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webcams are so easy to come by, or your phone,

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even if you're just repurposing a Facebook live that you've done, as long

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as you're having conversations, to me, that's what a podcast

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is. And there's no, there's really no excuse for

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anyone who is doing an audio podcast to not turn a

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camera on or even just put the audio feed onto the YouTube

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channel. You. You have to be everywhere, even if it's just a graphic

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rolling, you know, tetragrammatin.

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some video, and they've advanced, but for a long time it was just like a.

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it, but people were still there consuming that content

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in that fashion. So, yes. Is it perfectly,

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you know, you know, symmetrical both ways? I don't think

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so. But every podcast should be on YouTube and in all of the

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places. Yeah, 100% agree. The, the

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barrier to learn audio is, let's. Let's say on a

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scale of 1 to 100, that's like 75 to 80

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of the hundred of creating a podcast. The amount of

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extra effort it takes to do video is only those 20 extra points.

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you get audio right the first time. So figuring out the audio, you have to

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have good audio regardless if you're just doing an audio podcast or a

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video podcast. But the skill level to add that video

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in isn't anywhere near as difficult as just doing

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the audio. So if you already got to the point where you have the audio

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done, like Bubba says, turn on a camera, you'll get better and

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better each time you do it. You'll figure out different things, different lighting,

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different positioning, but it doesn't take much more effort

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to just add that video. Technically, no. Right.

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Like the technical side of it is not much harder. Now, does it take some

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getting used to talking into a camera? I mean, I was even guilty of it

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early on until somebody made it a point to me that I had a bad

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habit of looking at the screen that was above my webcam.

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But I'm trying to engage with them as if I were in the room with

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them. I'm trying to look them in the eyes even though their eyes can't see

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my eyes. So I had to be trained on, hey, look into the

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camera when you're talking and to become a little bit of a

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TV personality and to bring those elements in.

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But you'll learn it. You can learn those sides exactly what

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you said there. There's this much more technical knowledge that

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you have to have now. Can you get better at that? Can you bring more

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cameras and have camera switchers and do a lot more production behind

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the scenes, getting higher quality cameras? But if you have a 4K

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webcam at this point, you can make some pretty good quality content

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from your studio or wherever you're producing your content from on

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audio. Absolutely. That's. Let's keep that momentum

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going to Story number two comes to us from

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Buffalo Rising Anna Gasteyer brings the booze, the

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brass and the big holiday energy Comedy legend

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Anna Gasteyer is bring is trading SNL sketches for

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Santa hats as she takes her holiday show Sugar and

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Booze, a holiday spectacular to Rockwell hall

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in Buffalo on December 13th. Known for her

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jazz infused holiday album and her love of in the room

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moments, Gasteyer says live performance is

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her natural habitat where the audience becomes

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a full blown character, shaping the time in chemistry and chaos.

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Her holiday spectacular blends storytelling, big band

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swagger, prizes, cocktails and just enough mischief to make

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even the grinchiest grinch crack a smile. And

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while the show is cozy and nostalgic, its message is

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timely. In a world glued to screens, people are

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craving shared energy, connection and a reason to laugh together.

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Something podcasters can absolutely take the heart when crafting

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their own live experiences. You want to take this one first,

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Bubba? First of all, I love

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her. She is so funny and such a great

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comedic actor and to see that

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she's bringing this out into the live and bringing

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it to podcasting and all the things, it's so

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cool and I hope this is really a trend for a lot

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of other people in the world and a lot of other

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comedians and everyone Just like bring us more content.

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With the success of a lot of these comedians

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releasing their clips out on social media and they're growing their

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fan bases in that way, I think you're going to continue to see this trend

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of even the top notch. I mean, this woman's been on SNL for

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Dec. A decade or more. I. I do believe. Right. And

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bringing that. When you have these upper echelon of performers

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starting to do it, I think the rest of the industry starts to follow suit.

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So I'm really excited about this. And the audience as a

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character is such a cool point that I don't think

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we've really thought about because most of our lives, at

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least for guys our age, Jeff, that it's always

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been that. But I don't think we identified that audience as a character.

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Right. And really thought about it that way. But it

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truly is an audience can dictate

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the whole entire show. Some audiences are receptive and almost

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have a barrier up that no matter what you throw at them, they don't

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want it. You know, they're just, you got to figure out, how do I crack

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that wall. Some audiences are the easiest audiences you've ever performed

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for, where everybody's laughing, clapping, they're having a good time, and

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that energy comes back to the stage. If the

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performer's struggling because the audience isn't receptive, that makes the

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show a lot more difficult that when the audience. You treat the audience like

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this character, like, okay, this is a fun, happy person.

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This is a grumpy, miserable person. And you can feed off that energy

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and try to move the crowd around to have the show that you

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want to have. And you know what we see with these celebrities

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and actors and musicians who already have an established

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base, they're doing what you're saying. They're building these giant

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events, they're filling theaters and arenas, and they're really

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laying the foundation for other people to start doing

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their own live podcast. What we saw here at the

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theater was there's two groups of people right now. There's the people

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who record in their home studios and their basements and maybe a home office.

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And then there's people who are like Anna are filling

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arenas and theaters, but there's nothing in between. So

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how do those smaller independent podcasters get to

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Madison Square Garden? You get to the Benedam center in

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Pittsburgh. We have to have some sort of middle ground. And I

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think when we see these celebrities doing these big events, they're showing the

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public that podcasting is A form of entertainment.

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You can do this. Like, if you're doing this at home, why not

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try a local bar or a restaurant or a coffee shop in your community

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and try to do your show live. Take that first step

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to being a bigger and better show. You'll love it, I promise.

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Everybody who's done a live show, at least here at the theater and around, we've

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done some around coffee shops and restaurants, they have the

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greatest time meeting new people and performing their show in front of people,

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even if it's only 10 or 15 people. It's a completely different

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way to present your podcast. A completely new form of

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entertainment that most people haven't even thought of. And when we see these

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bigger events happening, that really is that plow,

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that groundwork being laid so that other people can follow

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in the footsteps. And if you're not aware of how much is

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happening already, go back. I have 30 episodes of

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six live news stories each right now. There's 180

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examples I'm giving you of this is a form of entertainment that is

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happening now and it's happening in a big way. And, and Anna's cashing

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in on it. Yeah. Tony Hinchcliffe sold out

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Madison Square Garden in a podcast that started to

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like eight people with some comedians doing one minute

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bits at the original room at, you know, in Los

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Angeles at the Comedy Store. Right now they've moved on and

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it's at the Comedy Mothership in Austin, Joe Rogan's club. But

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I pull a lot of in inspiration from what I've watched

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them build. I was a huge fan of the show. I watched it growing and

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growing and to see what they've done over

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the last, you know, year or two, to bring that into

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bigger and bigger, I mean, stadiums now, right?

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Msg, come on. It doesn't get any bigger than that.

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It's just incredible to see what can be done. But also,

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he showed up every Single Monday for 10 years

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before that ever came about. Right. And I think

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that's most people don't have the stomach to do it

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for no one. And what is great about the live setting for

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these is you get that instant feedback if you're just in your,

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you know, your spare bedroom or your basement or your detached

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garage like I am, and you're doing this and you're not getting the

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downloads and you're not, you know, you're having great conversations

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because we all know that feeling as podcasters. After you had a great conversation,

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you're like, that was awesome. Right? That's what got Me addicted to

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podcasting was that. That was great. I learned something new about

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you that changed my life because of what I've learned

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about my guests or what they've been able to learn about me.

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Now you're amplifying that. Even if it's only two, five people in a

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coffee shop, you're getting that reaction and connection

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with those other individuals. And that's what we're

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craving and something that this article alluded to. People are

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craving personal connection with human beings.

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Again, we have become so detached by. By

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contributing all of our time to these things. Right. And spending all

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of this time, how do we start to use them to find other

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humans that we want to connect with? And I think guys like me and you,

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Jeff, like, we've kind of used these social networks and things to

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connect with other podcasters or fans or

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building something in the real world. Not everyone

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does that. Right. A lot of people are just kind of doom scrolling

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around. How do we get them off? Well, you have to meet them where they're

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at first, but then you have to give them the opportunity to

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come out and to join you without a lot of barriers to that, whether

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it's cost or it's travel. So having more

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live podcasting events by whoever is doing them is

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not just growing our industry, but it's changing the world.

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Yeah. There is a wave of people waking up

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from their phone addiction. And ironically, I really

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think AI is the thing that's waking people

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up. I talked about this before, this theory that I have

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that, like you mentioned, doom scrolling. It's so simple. But now

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we're getting this AI slop in our doom scrolling and

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when you find out that something's AI, you kind of feel duped. You feel like,

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ah, that wasn't real, or it gives you a gross feeling

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that you're watching this stuff that has really

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no human connection. It just looks like it's something that could be

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real and that is filling social media

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and people do not like it. And I think that's the thing,

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the catalyst that's waking people up from, like, what am I doing?

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I work all day, I come home, I sit on my phone for four or

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five hours, and then I fall asleep. What kind of life am I

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living? I'm by myself. Even if we have a family

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of four people, you're probably alone in that house on your phone,

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and people are rejecting this in droves.

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And these types of events that Bubba's doing, that I'm doing, that people are doing

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all over the country are going to have an

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avalanche of people who start coming to these events.

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I've been saying I'm maybe I'm a little bit ahead of the curve and I

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00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,000
know that what I've built is something special and people are starting to trickle

463
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,800
in. But it's, it's going to come fast. And if you're in

464
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,530
a position where you've been creating content for years, this is the time to

465
00:29:20,530 --> 00:29:24,170
start thinking about community events, community theaters, community

466
00:29:24,250 --> 00:29:27,930
spaces, and where can you do your show, how can you adapt your

467
00:29:27,930 --> 00:29:31,730
show to a live audience? And that's going

468
00:29:31,730 --> 00:29:35,410
to take us to our next story because this is one that I love

469
00:29:35,410 --> 00:29:39,250
finding stories that you file under. I never expected that

470
00:29:39,250 --> 00:29:42,890
industry to have a podcast and this one is

471
00:29:42,890 --> 00:29:46,420
in the watch industry. Timekeepers and truth

472
00:29:46,420 --> 00:29:50,180
tellers, Vintage watches take the stage in New York

473
00:29:50,180 --> 00:29:53,900
City. This comes in from Hodenke in New York City. The

474
00:29:53,900 --> 00:29:57,460
Business of Watches podcast brought collectors together for a live

475
00:29:57,460 --> 00:30:01,260
recorded conversation with James Lambden, founder of

476
00:30:01,260 --> 00:30:05,060
Analog Shift and longtime co creator of the Red Bar Meetup

477
00:30:05,060 --> 00:30:08,500
Community. Speaking in front of a packed audience at UBS

478
00:30:08,660 --> 00:30:12,420
House of Craft, Lambdon broke down the vintage and pre owned

479
00:30:12,420 --> 00:30:16,270
market from value swings to the rise of big retail players

480
00:30:16,750 --> 00:30:18,670
while explaining why not all

481
00:30:19,630 --> 00:30:23,230
authenticity guarantees are created equal.

482
00:30:23,470 --> 00:30:27,310
The event blended market wisdom, storytelling, audience Q and

483
00:30:27,310 --> 00:30:30,710
A. Proving once again that niche experts shine

484
00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:34,230
brightest in live settings where passionate fans can ask real

485
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:37,990
questions. That's a very important part of the story. It's a

486
00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:41,390
great reminder that a podcast becomes more than a podcast

487
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,920
when you bring your community into the room and let

488
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,680
curiosity shape the show. And you know this, you

489
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,480
know, here's an industry. I know people are passionate about watches. People spend a lot

490
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,120
of money collecting watches. But I never would have thought that

491
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,920
this is an industry that needs a podcast or here's an event where we

492
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:03,720
can bring people together. And these people are capitalizing on

493
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,160
this. They're probably retailers and collectors.

494
00:31:08,110 --> 00:31:11,830
So keep that in mind. Maybe your business is in some sort of industry. Well,

495
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:15,670
there's fans of that industry, people who love that. And they're doing an

496
00:31:15,670 --> 00:31:18,910
event where they're bringing watch collectors together, watch

497
00:31:18,910 --> 00:31:22,710
retailers together, putting them in a room and they're just talking about this

498
00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:26,350
one thing. They love this one accessory that goes on your

499
00:31:26,350 --> 00:31:29,630
wrist. They've made a whole little media empire out of it.

500
00:31:30,110 --> 00:31:33,070
It's brilliant. I think it's, it's so

501
00:31:33,230 --> 00:31:36,890
interesting. I'm not a watch guy. I've never had the money to be a

502
00:31:36,890 --> 00:31:39,650
watch guy. But

503
00:31:40,530 --> 00:31:44,050
every niche has die hard

504
00:31:44,050 --> 00:31:47,810
fans. Right now we have some Pretty big brands out there in the world,

505
00:31:47,810 --> 00:31:51,249
the NFL being one of the top, that have millions of

506
00:31:51,249 --> 00:31:55,090
fans. But even the watch community probably has several hundred thousand

507
00:31:55,090 --> 00:31:58,290
people worldwide that are rabid about

508
00:31:58,690 --> 00:32:02,450
watches and everything that goes on with them. And you even

509
00:32:02,450 --> 00:32:05,770
think back to, you know, before pre

510
00:32:05,770 --> 00:32:08,930
Internet, that there was people that were writing books on these things and there were

511
00:32:08,930 --> 00:32:11,610
people that were buying those books. And

512
00:32:12,490 --> 00:32:16,090
this isn't something necessarily new. It's just a

513
00:32:16,090 --> 00:32:19,610
new form of media that's getting it out there.

514
00:32:19,690 --> 00:32:22,770
I love this, Jeff. I don't know how you feel about it, but I think

515
00:32:22,770 --> 00:32:26,330
this is so cool. Yeah, you mentioned a really cool thing

516
00:32:26,490 --> 00:32:29,410
about, you know, people used to read books, but now they can go experience the

517
00:32:29,410 --> 00:32:33,050
book. You know, they can see the retail value in real person and.

518
00:32:33,130 --> 00:32:36,850
And have this immersive event I was watching a few episodes of.

519
00:32:36,850 --> 00:32:40,250
Billy Corgan has a podcast, and he did a great one with Devo.

520
00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:44,250
And I just started thinking about his business model of

521
00:32:44,410 --> 00:32:48,210
his podcast, where he's brought these rock legends on

522
00:32:48,210 --> 00:32:52,050
Devo, and he's just talking about the history, how they got started, what some

523
00:32:52,050 --> 00:32:55,800
of the meanings behind the songs were. And just like you said, there's.

524
00:32:56,990 --> 00:33:00,830
What he's doing is what we would have read in a Rolling Stone magazine as

525
00:33:00,830 --> 00:33:04,590
a static article. Instead of reading that article,

526
00:33:04,990 --> 00:33:08,590
I'm experiencing the article live as the author,

527
00:33:08,590 --> 00:33:11,710
Billy Corgan is interviewing the band Devo.

528
00:33:12,110 --> 00:33:15,710
It's like you're reading this immersive Rolling Stone article

529
00:33:16,190 --> 00:33:19,630
in video form, and that's what these events are like.

530
00:33:19,790 --> 00:33:23,110
You could read a book, a trade publication, about how much is a

531
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:26,870
1920 Timex or Rolex worth? You know,

532
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:30,630
with the gold plate. I don't even know anything about watches either. But you could

533
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:34,030
read a book and get a value, or you could talk to people who are

534
00:33:34,030 --> 00:33:37,470
actually doing it in this immersive event. And,

535
00:33:37,790 --> 00:33:40,990
you know, I just love that. I didn't expect to find a Watch

536
00:33:41,150 --> 00:33:44,750
podcast this week. Right. Well, because we're not watch people.

537
00:33:44,750 --> 00:33:48,510
We're not looking for it. And you mentioned something off the top of

538
00:33:48,510 --> 00:33:52,290
the show that, like, because you love something, there's a pretty good

539
00:33:52,290 --> 00:33:55,850
chance that other people love that too. Why not talk about

540
00:33:55,850 --> 00:33:59,650
it? And if you're already having these committees, which it seemed like they were

541
00:33:59,650 --> 00:34:03,410
from this story, that they were already doing these smaller meetups and doing

542
00:34:03,410 --> 00:34:07,090
Q&As and things like that. The podcasting element of it

543
00:34:07,090 --> 00:34:10,930
is literally somebody just showing up with a camera or a microphone

544
00:34:10,930 --> 00:34:14,690
and recording it and then putting that content out there

545
00:34:15,340 --> 00:34:19,180
as a show and doing a little bit of polish to say, hey, here's something

546
00:34:19,180 --> 00:34:22,940
you might be interested in. Side note, huge Billy Corgan

547
00:34:22,940 --> 00:34:25,300
fan. So I'm gonna have to have you send me a link to this new

548
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:29,100
one. I listened to his Whole33 podcast where he went

549
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:32,620
over his songs on his new album and told the stories behind

550
00:34:32,620 --> 00:34:35,900
this massive album with a couple of his

551
00:34:36,140 --> 00:34:39,940
hosts from his wrestling outfit that came on and

552
00:34:39,940 --> 00:34:43,710
hosted the the podcast. I'm thrilled to hear that he's doing that. I grew up

553
00:34:43,710 --> 00:34:47,550
a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan. Family's from the Chicago area, so a little

554
00:34:47,550 --> 00:34:50,710
bit of regional bias there. But Billy is such an

555
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:54,390
incredible and a deep individual that

556
00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:58,230
I bet it's awesome conversations that he's having with some of these other rock

557
00:34:58,230 --> 00:35:01,790
legends. Yeah, the questions are really great and deep.

558
00:35:01,790 --> 00:35:05,270
He's one of those interviewers that can meander a question through a story.

559
00:35:05,830 --> 00:35:09,350
That's like my favorite type of question to ask when you're, you're kind of

560
00:35:09,350 --> 00:35:13,110
figuring things out as you're asking the question and you,

561
00:35:13,110 --> 00:35:16,110
I think if, if you like Billy Corgan, I think you'll really like the series

562
00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:20,470
and it's a. Lot of the same elements of what would make his. Now I

563
00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:24,230
haven't been on the biggest stages in the world and been a number one, you

564
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:27,710
know, chart topping artist, but that's the reason that I feel

565
00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:31,270
my show with the Scene projects brings so much

566
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:34,430
value to the music community. Because I'm not asking

567
00:35:34,970 --> 00:35:38,690
top, top level questions, right. I can get very in the

568
00:35:38,690 --> 00:35:42,450
way. I've been there and done that. I'm a songwriter myself. I know what it

569
00:35:42,450 --> 00:35:46,290
takes to be inspired to write something or touring. And I'm

570
00:35:46,290 --> 00:35:49,970
not asking the superficial type questions that someone who's

571
00:35:49,970 --> 00:35:53,810
not in the industry would be asking. And that's what makes our show

572
00:35:53,810 --> 00:35:57,610
very interesting. And I imagine with Billy Corgan it's even more so

573
00:35:57,610 --> 00:36:01,250
because the man has been there and done all of it. He's one of the

574
00:36:01,250 --> 00:36:04,330
biggest rock stars that we have on the planet. Still,

575
00:36:05,850 --> 00:36:09,050
speaking of big rock stars, how about a 14 year old

576
00:36:09,370 --> 00:36:12,730
live streaming to 15,000 people with the Pope?

577
00:36:13,050 --> 00:36:16,489
We have the Pope on the line. A 14 year old goes live with

578
00:36:16,489 --> 00:36:20,250
15,000 people watching from the Baltimore sun

579
00:36:21,050 --> 00:36:24,810
in Indianapolis, a national audience watched a remarkable first

580
00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:28,760
Pope Leo the 14th taking questions digitally from

581
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,320
US students, including 14 year old Mia Smothers of

582
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,920
Baltimore, live streamed from the National Catholic Youth

583
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,720
Conference to a cheering auditorium back home.

584
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,320
Mia, one of five students selected

585
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,200
nationwide, opened the Q and A with a vulnerable question about mistakes

586
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,040
and mercy, prompting the Pope to speak about forgiveness, hope,

587
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,770
and a reality that sin has never sin never has.

588
00:36:54,770 --> 00:36:58,530
The final word. With 15,000 people in the room

589
00:36:58,850 --> 00:37:02,570
and countless others streaming worldwide, this moment showed

590
00:37:02,570 --> 00:37:06,290
how powerful remote engagement can be when tech,

591
00:37:06,290 --> 00:37:10,089
tradition and community collide. It also shows how a

592
00:37:10,089 --> 00:37:13,890
simple digital connection, just one kid with one question,

593
00:37:14,290 --> 00:37:17,650
can turn into a global shared experience that

594
00:37:17,650 --> 00:37:21,180
feels as live as and electric as

595
00:37:21,180 --> 00:37:24,780
any stage performance. And this is, this is

596
00:37:24,780 --> 00:37:28,340
like we are at the peak of technology right now. Can you

597
00:37:28,340 --> 00:37:32,060
imagine? We have the technology in our houses to

598
00:37:32,060 --> 00:37:35,740
connect the world together. You can go live with your

599
00:37:35,740 --> 00:37:39,500
computer, your microphone, your camera, and you could have just as

600
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:43,100
much technology as made this event happen. And that

601
00:37:43,260 --> 00:37:46,870
this theater, I always joke, this theater is like a place portal to the world.

602
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:50,910
If you, if you remember Star Trek, they would always go down to that little

603
00:37:50,910 --> 00:37:54,590
place. They say, beam me up, Scotty. Well, this stage is just like

604
00:37:54,590 --> 00:37:58,390
that, because when you're watching Bubba's over here to my left on the

605
00:37:58,390 --> 00:38:01,750
stage, even though he's in South Dakota. We have people leaving comments.

606
00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:05,910
We have questions coming in. If we were open to the public right now,

607
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:09,430
the lot, the studio audience could be asking Bubba questions.

608
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:13,420
From Tarentum here outside of Pittsburgh to South Dakota, this

609
00:38:13,420 --> 00:38:16,660
really becomes this full circle. And that's what this

610
00:38:16,740 --> 00:38:20,580
conference capitalized on. They had everybody together,

611
00:38:20,660 --> 00:38:24,420
15,000 people in a room, and they're like, hey, we're gonna ask, we're just gonna

612
00:38:24,420 --> 00:38:28,180
ask the Pope some questions. Well,

613
00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:32,020
and we are, in our lifetimes, we're going to see the

614
00:38:32,020 --> 00:38:35,300
quantum world become a reality. And then you're talking about

615
00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:39,010
instantaneous transfer of information to

616
00:38:39,010 --> 00:38:42,650
where, Jeff, I, I will be looking like I'm

617
00:38:42,650 --> 00:38:45,890
sitting next to you, holographic and those kind of things.

618
00:38:46,370 --> 00:38:50,010
We are going to see it in our lifetime. I know it seems far

619
00:38:50,010 --> 00:38:53,170
off, but I just read something yesterday that

620
00:38:53,330 --> 00:38:57,170
China's deploying robots to, to patrol their borders now.

621
00:38:57,170 --> 00:39:00,450
So I think the future is a lot closer

622
00:39:00,690 --> 00:39:04,210
than we even think about. And exactly what you said about that stage,

623
00:39:04,690 --> 00:39:08,410
exactly why, when I saw it and your whole concept, it's why I got

624
00:39:08,410 --> 00:39:11,810
it, because I've had the opportunity with my podcasting

625
00:39:11,810 --> 00:39:15,490
journey, to interview some really smart people. Now, South

626
00:39:15,490 --> 00:39:19,130
Dakota may be, you know, 20 years behind the times in most

627
00:39:19,130 --> 00:39:22,850
things, but because of the Internet, I'm able to stay on the forefront

628
00:39:23,010 --> 00:39:26,450
of technology. And this is incredible. I, I.

629
00:39:26,610 --> 00:39:30,410
And look what it became. And we're seeing. And children ask

630
00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:33,780
the best questions, don't they? I mean, that's what it comes down to. Yeah, that

631
00:39:33,780 --> 00:39:37,540
connection in real time, you just can't, you couldn't have done

632
00:39:37,540 --> 00:39:41,380
that 20 years ago. And now you have the power to just do that in

633
00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:45,060
your home. And that's what's the important takeaway here, is

634
00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:49,099
what you mentioned. Let me two takeaways. I want to go back to something you

635
00:39:49,099 --> 00:39:52,580
said. AI and China, robots controlling the border.

636
00:39:53,460 --> 00:39:57,100
Now we know that there's a wave of AI going

637
00:39:57,100 --> 00:40:00,750
to, that's going to replace white collar workers. They're going

638
00:40:00,750 --> 00:40:04,270
to just wipe people out. You know, an AI can read a

639
00:40:04,270 --> 00:40:07,950
spreadsheet better than, you know, 10 accountants. So we know

640
00:40:08,510 --> 00:40:12,230
that some point corporations aren't going to side with people, they'll side with profits.

641
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:16,070
They have a history of doing that. So we know that they're probably going to

642
00:40:16,070 --> 00:40:19,550
replace a substantial portion of the workforce. But what

643
00:40:19,550 --> 00:40:22,910
AI can't replace is you and your authenticity.

644
00:40:23,550 --> 00:40:27,290
If you have a show, you have an asset. If you have

645
00:40:27,290 --> 00:40:31,090
a community, you have an asset. AI can't replace

646
00:40:31,090 --> 00:40:34,730
you on stage. Entertaining people, never. One of the reasons

647
00:40:34,730 --> 00:40:38,290
I built this theater was to diversify.

648
00:40:38,530 --> 00:40:41,810
You know, I can, yes, I have an income from a job, but I have

649
00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:45,130
an income from a theater and I can build on that and that can become

650
00:40:45,130 --> 00:40:48,450
something bigger and that nobody can take this away. AI

651
00:40:48,450 --> 00:40:51,740
cannot recreate a real life in person experience.

652
00:40:51,980 --> 00:40:55,460
And, and if you have something like that, the passion that

653
00:40:55,460 --> 00:40:59,140
Bubba has for, for sports and music, he's building an

654
00:40:59,140 --> 00:41:02,900
asset that can't be replaced by AI I'm

655
00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:06,660
doing the thing with the theater and I'm helping small creators do things that

656
00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:10,180
can't be replaced by AI and this event with 15,000

657
00:41:10,180 --> 00:41:13,980
people of like minded thoughts of faith, they're coming

658
00:41:13,980 --> 00:41:17,700
together and they're, they're interviewing the Pope, like, which is crazy

659
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:21,380
to think that that's even something that was possible for a 14 year old 25

660
00:41:21,380 --> 00:41:24,980
years ago. But here we are in a time where

661
00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:28,900
these authentic in person events mean

662
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:32,660
so much to so many people. It's incredible what we

663
00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:35,860
can do. Now most of my show is built off of

664
00:41:36,180 --> 00:41:40,020
over the Internet interviews. Now I have live events that I've filmed

665
00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:43,820
and things that we've done. But most of what I've done has never been in

666
00:41:43,820 --> 00:41:47,660
a traditional studio. Another reason why I fell in love

667
00:41:47,660 --> 00:41:51,100
with your theater is like, oh man, I would love to shoot content there, right?

668
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:54,340
And all I have to do is really show up because you've done everything, all

669
00:41:54,340 --> 00:41:58,020
the cameras and the space and everything is already there. You just have to

670
00:41:58,020 --> 00:42:01,700
show up and have conversations. That's What I'm

671
00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:05,140
trying to work into and build a network of theaters like

672
00:42:05,140 --> 00:42:08,500
yours that I can just travel around, talk to the people and

673
00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:12,300
organize events around those places. Because at its essence,

674
00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:15,970
AI is always going to be artificial. It's not

675
00:42:15,970 --> 00:42:19,650
going to be interactive and to be so.

676
00:42:19,650 --> 00:42:23,450
And we use a lot of AI to amplify what we're doing for a

677
00:42:23,450 --> 00:42:27,210
lot of our. Not necessarily content creation, but for the editing process

678
00:42:27,210 --> 00:42:30,970
and a lot of these things because I couldn't afford to pay

679
00:42:30,970 --> 00:42:34,610
a human being to spend the hours and hours and hours it would take them

680
00:42:34,610 --> 00:42:37,770
to do it when the AI can do it in a matter of minutes.

681
00:42:38,170 --> 00:42:41,970
Now, is it going to replace me as the host and as the

682
00:42:41,970 --> 00:42:45,640
networker or who finds all the people? No, it can never do that.

683
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,920
You have to put in the work to make AI

684
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,280
an asset like I use it. I'm. This theater is basically a one

685
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,400
person show. I was telling Bubba beforehand, I'm here by myself. I ran the song

686
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,120
before I got the recording going. We got all these things happening and it's

687
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,960
just me right now in the theater running things. And a large portion of

688
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,680
that is AI I give Bubba, he got a 12 page document about

689
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,440
the stories that we're covering, where I have my teleprompter page in giant

690
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,080
18 point font and then I have bullet points of things that are

691
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,400
related to the show as a fallback in case we get lost or

692
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:22,520
something to come back on. But in the theme song, I always get nervous playing

693
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,000
the theme song for musicians because I'm like, hey, yeah, I used AI to create

694
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,680
that theme song. But I need those things to be able

695
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,080
to bring this thing to life. This is kind of like the

696
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,820
prototype, the proof of concept. And as this grows, I'm

697
00:43:36,820 --> 00:43:40,620
going to use less and less AI and rely more and more on people.

698
00:43:40,860 --> 00:43:44,460
This is a community event, a community space. But if you have the

699
00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:48,180
knowledge, you can use AI to amplify that knowledge. You

700
00:43:48,180 --> 00:43:51,940
can't use AI to become something better, but you can use

701
00:43:51,940 --> 00:43:55,460
AI to be a better person. So what do I mean by that? If. If

702
00:43:55,460 --> 00:43:58,460
you. If I didn't know anything about nuclear physics and I wanted to just go

703
00:43:58,460 --> 00:44:01,820
into AI and ask it about nuclear physics, I could get some

704
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,120
very basic explanation and then that would be the extent

705
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,840
of my knowledge. I wouldn't know anything more. But if I'm building a theater and

706
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,640
I'm entertaining people, and as I do that more and more, I'm getting

707
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,480
more and more knowledge about ticket sales, about event planning, and I start

708
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,280
to put that back into AI, my experience. AI is going

709
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,480
to amplify my knowledge and experience because I have it already.

710
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,680
And it's going to allow me to do more and more things by myself

711
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,280
because I have the foundation. So

712
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,200
we say don't just be that person that relies on AI to

713
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,960
be somebody. Be the person first and then become a

714
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,640
thousand times better through the use of AI. But you have to

715
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,080
have a foundation. You have to have something to

716
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,520
amplify. You have to bring in something

717
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,520
to feed this. And for me, I'm recording sometimes

718
00:44:55,290 --> 00:44:59,050
five, six interviews in a day. There's no way

719
00:44:59,050 --> 00:45:02,810
I would have the time to sit down and meticulously edit

720
00:45:02,810 --> 00:45:06,610
all of these things. I use a service called Podcast AI that

721
00:45:06,610 --> 00:45:09,530
does all of it for me. So all I have to do is record it,

722
00:45:09,690 --> 00:45:13,450
plug it in, it runs all of it, it chops it all up into shorts.

723
00:45:13,450 --> 00:45:17,130
Jeff and it's done in a matter of minutes. I could never

724
00:45:17,130 --> 00:45:20,810
replicate that. And I paid humans to do this. I couldn't afford it.

725
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:24,910
Right. Especially as these ideas are new and are not

726
00:45:24,910 --> 00:45:28,590
making any money. I can't wait for the sponsor support to be able

727
00:45:28,590 --> 00:45:32,390
to pay for this. You know, so many hours of this human being's

728
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:35,630
time to do those things. What I would like to do is to get so

729
00:45:35,630 --> 00:45:39,030
big that I have to pay a human being to do the copy and pasting

730
00:45:39,350 --> 00:45:42,470
that I'm doing now so that I can have more conversations.

731
00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:47,830
Absolutely. Speaking of energy hogs, I don't know if it's. That's a terrible

732
00:45:47,830 --> 00:45:51,420
transition. But we're going to go to our fifth story tonight

733
00:45:51,660 --> 00:45:54,380
about EVs plugged in and powered up.

734
00:45:54,540 --> 00:45:58,340
V2G takes the live stage in Melbourne. This comes to

735
00:45:58,340 --> 00:46:01,780
us from the Driven at the Everything Electric show in

736
00:46:01,780 --> 00:46:05,620
Melbourne. The Driven podcast went live to break down

737
00:46:05,620 --> 00:46:09,020
the future shaping potential of Vehicle to grid technology,

738
00:46:09,340 --> 00:46:13,140
or V2G for short, which allows electric vehicles to

739
00:46:13,140 --> 00:46:16,550
feed power back into Australia's clean energy

740
00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:20,150
network. Recorded on site with an engaged audience,

741
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:24,070
the episode explored how EV owners could eventually support the grid,

742
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:28,150
lower energy bills and help stabilize renewable power

743
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:31,630
during peak times. It's a perfect example of how taking a

744
00:46:31,630 --> 00:46:34,790
podcast into a live environment elevates the conversation.

745
00:46:35,350 --> 00:46:39,070
Real time reactions, hands on demos, and a

746
00:46:39,070 --> 00:46:42,600
tech savvy crowd that's eager to ask questions and challenge assumptions.

747
00:46:43,230 --> 00:46:46,270
When you put innovation on stage, you don't just inform,

748
00:46:47,630 --> 00:46:51,350
you energize. And I work in the automotive industry, so I

749
00:46:51,350 --> 00:46:54,710
always, I always come to these stories with a little bit of skepticism. If, if

750
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:58,430
you had to charge your EV to get a full battery.

751
00:46:58,590 --> 00:47:01,790
And then a lot of cars do integrate with houses. Now if there's a power

752
00:47:01,790 --> 00:47:05,630
outage, you can plug your EV into the house. Isn't it just going to

753
00:47:05,630 --> 00:47:09,310
drain the battery? That even though you're giving it back to the grid? I'm not

754
00:47:09,310 --> 00:47:12,620
sure how you get more energy into the car. But now I

755
00:47:12,620 --> 00:47:16,460
challenge any electric vehicle to run when it's negative 30

756
00:47:16,460 --> 00:47:19,820
here in South Dakota for two weeks straight in February

757
00:47:20,220 --> 00:47:23,740
and to maintain its ability. So is EV

758
00:47:23,980 --> 00:47:27,579
the end all be all? I don't think so. But things like this

759
00:47:27,579 --> 00:47:31,100
to reduce emissions and to bring these kind of. How

760
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:34,820
cool. And then not only are they talking about it, because

761
00:47:34,820 --> 00:47:38,420
what would usually happen is that these smart people are all in a room

762
00:47:38,420 --> 00:47:42,060
talking to each other, and then that conversation never leaves that room.

763
00:47:43,050 --> 00:47:46,890
Now, because it's a podcast that it goes out there. And even

764
00:47:46,890 --> 00:47:50,530
though we might be too stupid to understand what they're saying, we at

765
00:47:50,530 --> 00:47:54,010
least are informed about what could be coming in the future.

766
00:47:54,090 --> 00:47:57,610
And if we are so inclined to research

767
00:47:57,690 --> 00:48:01,370
and study this and get more, you know, informed on it

768
00:48:01,530 --> 00:48:05,210
now, at least we know what's out there. Where even five years

769
00:48:05,210 --> 00:48:08,980
ago, this would have never hit the market. Yeah, it would have

770
00:48:08,980 --> 00:48:12,700
been buried in a trade publication or only a small event at

771
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:16,540
a conference. But because they're recording it and broadcasting it and extending the

772
00:48:16,540 --> 00:48:20,220
reach of that conference is another benefit of doing these live

773
00:48:20,220 --> 00:48:23,380
shows at an event is you're extending the reach of that event.

774
00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:27,460
Exactly. And now it's on a show that's talking mostly just about

775
00:48:27,460 --> 00:48:31,300
podcasting in the news. But now we've brought this out and we're

776
00:48:31,860 --> 00:48:35,630
introducing it to other people that would never have an idea what

777
00:48:35,630 --> 00:48:39,230
this is. And maybe that person that hears about this

778
00:48:39,230 --> 00:48:43,070
story from our show is the next person that has the

779
00:48:43,070 --> 00:48:46,430
big idea. Well, well, why wouldn't they do this? Right? We don't know what electrical

780
00:48:46,430 --> 00:48:50,270
engineer might be consuming our content on a whim on a Saturday

781
00:48:50,509 --> 00:48:54,070
morning that becomes a catalyst in this next

782
00:48:54,070 --> 00:48:57,910
big idea. It's incredible what's happening. I say it all the time on my

783
00:48:57,910 --> 00:49:01,390
show, Jeff, that podcasting is how the world is healing itself.

784
00:49:01,730 --> 00:49:05,450
It's changing the world in every single conversation, and you just

785
00:49:05,450 --> 00:49:08,730
don't know what that is. So keep talking and keep

786
00:49:08,730 --> 00:49:12,570
podcasting. There's no better way to spread

787
00:49:12,570 --> 00:49:16,330
information. And I realize why I picked this, because I do like the next

788
00:49:16,330 --> 00:49:19,730
story of Climate Town. Climatown is a

789
00:49:19,730 --> 00:49:22,530
YouTube channel that does these really snarky

790
00:49:23,490 --> 00:49:27,090
stories about the environment. It's amazing YouTube

791
00:49:27,090 --> 00:49:30,850
show, but I was must have been going with an environmental theme to close out

792
00:49:30,850 --> 00:49:34,410
the show and Climatown is going live. This is a YouTube channel

793
00:49:34,570 --> 00:49:38,370
doing a one night only at SF Sketch Fest. This comes to us from

794
00:49:38,370 --> 00:49:41,930
Eventbrite. Climatown, the YouTube powerhouse known for

795
00:49:42,090 --> 00:49:45,730
turning climate science into razor sharp comedy is

796
00:49:45,730 --> 00:49:49,570
taking its research fueled chaos to the Great Star theater for a one

797
00:49:49,570 --> 00:49:53,210
night only live show at the San Francisco Sketchfest on

798
00:49:53,210 --> 00:49:56,860
January 21st. Raleigh Williams and Matt Nelson will

799
00:49:56,860 --> 00:50:00,460
perform a full episode before it hits YouTube and

800
00:50:00,460 --> 00:50:04,300
promise they'll never perform that version live again. With

801
00:50:04,300 --> 00:50:08,020
600,000 subscribers and millions of views, this is a chance

802
00:50:08,020 --> 00:50:11,740
for fans to see climatown's blend of humor, activism

803
00:50:11,740 --> 00:50:15,340
and deep dives in a totally new format. It's a perfect

804
00:50:15,340 --> 00:50:18,860
reminder how creators can reward superfans with exclusive

805
00:50:18,860 --> 00:50:22,410
live experiences. That feels special, unrepeatable,

806
00:50:22,570 --> 00:50:26,090
and worth the ticket. The kind of moment that turns

807
00:50:26,250 --> 00:50:30,090
a passive viewer into an active community member.

808
00:50:30,330 --> 00:50:33,930
You want to start off our last story? This is really cool because

809
00:50:33,930 --> 00:50:37,570
it is coming from the podcasting side first

810
00:50:37,570 --> 00:50:41,290
and the YouTuber side First and now bringing that into a live

811
00:50:41,290 --> 00:50:45,010
setting. So this is really cool to me to see that people

812
00:50:45,010 --> 00:50:48,560
are getting it from both sides of the aisle now and

813
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,280
bringing that out. Man, how cool would it have been if MythBusters was a live

814
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,440
show? Yeah, I would, I would have went if they would have toured the country.

815
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,120
I know they did do some like special appearances, but had they gone on

816
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,840
tour, even if it was the same show in every city, I still would

817
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,600
have went. Yeah, you would have followed them around from city to

818
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,520
city because you're never going to get because of the live

819
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,680
format and because every audience is its own

820
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,480
entity and is its own character in the story. It's

821
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,200
always going to be different. And, and I saw this from

822
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,920
a. I was in a battle of the bands up in Minnesota

823
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,520
last year. Now, my band didn't win, but I saw what they had done and

824
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,360
I was like, you could recreate, you could take all the same bands on

825
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,160
tour and because you're doing it, you know, part of the judging is off

826
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,800
of crowd participation or interaction that you could

827
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,120
shake it up, redo the order of the

828
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,970
performers, redo the, you know, the crowd and

829
00:51:46,970 --> 00:51:50,730
different judges and you could get a different winner every single week.

830
00:51:51,050 --> 00:51:54,850
Taking something like that on the road. This is, you know,

831
00:51:54,850 --> 00:51:58,610
while not the same thing, is really cool to see that people are getting

832
00:51:58,610 --> 00:52:02,130
it and are bringing their content out into it,

833
00:52:02,130 --> 00:52:05,694
rewarding their fans that have been with them. I mean, 600,

834
00:52:05,766 --> 00:52:09,330
000 subscribers on YouTube is huge. You know, that's not the

835
00:52:09,330 --> 00:52:12,850
biggest, but that's massive for someone who's independently creating

836
00:52:12,850 --> 00:52:16,650
media. That's a massive fan base. And now you're able to reward

837
00:52:16,650 --> 00:52:20,370
some of those listeners and viewers by bringing them in.

838
00:52:20,370 --> 00:52:24,130
And they get to be in the room with these people where they felt like

839
00:52:24,130 --> 00:52:27,530
they've been in the room with them for years possibly,

840
00:52:27,850 --> 00:52:31,170
but now you actually get to shake their hand and look them in the eye

841
00:52:31,170 --> 00:52:34,850
and to tell them thank you and you get to enjoy the show too. I

842
00:52:34,850 --> 00:52:38,690
think that's so awesome. Yeah. When you watch the YouTube channel, you,

843
00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:42,210
you know, this is a polish. They took multiple takes, they,

844
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,240
they wanted to get the storytelling perfect and now they're going to

845
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:49,800
like, hey, let's try this in a live environment. You get one

846
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,400
take, one shot and you know you're going to make mistakes in a live environment.

847
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,080
I made some today, but we keep the show rolling. And

848
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,840
if you've watched Raleigh do his even on the

849
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,640
show on the YouTube channel, you could tell it's, it's a little

850
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,490
crazy, it's a little close to the edge on some of the takes and it's

851
00:53:08,490 --> 00:53:12,330
a very well done show and one that I do enjoy. And for

852
00:53:12,330 --> 00:53:15,810
$35 you can spend a night, probably a

853
00:53:15,890 --> 00:53:19,250
90 minute, two hour show of them putting this together

854
00:53:20,050 --> 00:53:23,410
and you get to see how, you know, how it works in real time, how

855
00:53:23,410 --> 00:53:27,170
they react off each other. And seeing something

856
00:53:27,170 --> 00:53:30,850
that you watch, you know, perfectly polished on YouTube, then

857
00:53:30,850 --> 00:53:34,610
seeing live is a whole new experience. If we talk about the great bands

858
00:53:34,610 --> 00:53:37,940
of the 80s when I was a kid that, that were touring, you know, we

859
00:53:37,940 --> 00:53:41,580
heard Bon Jovi on the radio every day. But I got to see

860
00:53:41,580 --> 00:53:44,820
Bon Jovi with Cinderella at the Civic arena in like

861
00:53:44,820 --> 00:53:48,620
1986. And it was, it was so amazing

862
00:53:48,860 --> 00:53:52,379
to see these people who were, you've heard on the radio, you saw on

863
00:53:52,379 --> 00:53:56,140
mtv and then they're in front of you on the stage, you're like, cut

864
00:53:56,140 --> 00:53:59,780
it out. This is ridiculous. I can't believe I'm seeing them

865
00:53:59,780 --> 00:54:03,150
perform these hit songs live. And, and that's what we're seeing with

866
00:54:03,150 --> 00:54:06,990
podcasters, that's what we're seeing with YouTubers. They're taking their talents to

867
00:54:06,990 --> 00:54:10,550
the stage and amplifying that, that audience experience.

868
00:54:11,590 --> 00:54:15,350
And that's a two way street. As someone who spent time on stage

869
00:54:15,350 --> 00:54:19,110
for most of my life at this point, I can attest

870
00:54:19,110 --> 00:54:22,910
to that. But also I saw an interview with James Hetfield, the, you know,

871
00:54:22,910 --> 00:54:26,550
lead singer of Metallica, who's been doing this and at the top of the rock

872
00:54:26,550 --> 00:54:30,300
world, a legend in his field. And the interviewer asked

873
00:54:30,300 --> 00:54:34,100
him, like, what. What keeps you guys going? You know, you've been doing this for

874
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:37,740
a long time. You've played all the biggest. Like, you've done it all.

875
00:54:37,740 --> 00:54:41,580
What keeps you going? And he's like, the people. The fact that I can

876
00:54:41,580 --> 00:54:45,260
look out there, lock eyes with one person, and to see them light

877
00:54:45,260 --> 00:54:49,100
up charges me up. I'm ready to go. And I want to deliver

878
00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:52,860
the. The performance of a lifetime every single

879
00:54:52,860 --> 00:54:56,510
time that happens. And. And that's a not going back to AI. AI can't

880
00:54:56,510 --> 00:54:59,910
replace that. It cannot replace human interaction

881
00:55:00,070 --> 00:55:03,350
and. And connection with another human being.

882
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:07,190
And it's really cool to see that people who have grown

883
00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:11,350
a large fan base online are now getting to bring that

884
00:55:11,350 --> 00:55:14,990
into a live setting. And maybe it's their first time doing a

885
00:55:14,990 --> 00:55:18,830
live thing like this ever. And they're going to be in a room full of

886
00:55:18,830 --> 00:55:22,490
their fans, and they're going to get that feeling that I've gotten on

887
00:55:22,490 --> 00:55:25,490
stage performing for thousands of people.

888
00:55:26,370 --> 00:55:30,210
It's pretty incredible. Yeah. Nothing replicates

889
00:55:30,450 --> 00:55:34,130
coming off stage after performing to a live crowd. And

890
00:55:34,370 --> 00:55:37,890
if you're going to perform to a live crowd, no one better to talk to.

891
00:55:38,049 --> 00:55:41,850
Bubba starts. Bubba. That's going to wrap up the show. We didn't tell

892
00:55:41,850 --> 00:55:44,890
people how to connect with you, where to find you. What's the best way to

893
00:55:44,890 --> 00:55:48,000
find your sports show, your. Your music shows?

894
00:55:48,630 --> 00:55:52,430
You find everything@the sceneprojects.com we're

895
00:55:52,430 --> 00:55:56,230
all over YouTube. That's where we're definitely trying to grow the most right now. I

896
00:55:56,230 --> 00:56:00,030
want to hit that 500 subscriber mark by the end of the year. I think

897
00:56:00,030 --> 00:56:03,510
we only need about 69 more. Nice.

898
00:56:03,909 --> 00:56:07,590
And we're gonna keep on pushing, so. Appreciate you having

899
00:56:07,590 --> 00:56:10,630
me on, Jeff. This was so much fun. I can't believe it's over already.

900
00:56:12,070 --> 00:56:15,880
It does. It goes so fast. You never know. You know, for

901
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,720
an hour like that was our show, almost felt like it was like five minutes.

902
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,240
But yeah, I'll put all those links in the show notes. Make sure you check

903
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:26,960
out Bubba support what he's doing, not just in South Dakota, but doing

904
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,720
those tours all around the area, the Midwest. I'm sure you

905
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:34,560
have some dates coming up. We'll find those on the website. The links in

906
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,080
the show notes. That means I'm going to. Oh, my plugs. I got

907
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,880
Poduty shirts, $10, four colors, five sizes

908
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,920
to get the early bird price. I'm just selling them for 10 bucks. I want

909
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,040
to see them out in the public and see people wearing them and rocking them.

910
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:52,080
And they just arrived last Saturday. Poduty

911
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,760
hats are here. You can get your Poduty hat. They're in the

912
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,600
snapback. It says a snapback on the picture there. That must

913
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,160
be the style of hat. And we got some upcoming shows. We got the Pittsburgh

914
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,600
Podcast meetup. You can watch it in the theater. It's free

915
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,670
6pm next Saturday, December 6th. Or if you can't make it to

916
00:57:10,670 --> 00:57:14,390
Pittsburgh, watch the live stream at 7pm I live streamed one hour.

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It's the Q and A portion where we we tackle your most

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pressing podcast questions. We go anything from what's

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an MP3 file to how do I distribute through an RSS

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feed is a video, a podcast, even questions that we answer. Today

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we've got the Jingle Bell Jam. We got a talent show Dec. 20 from

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6. 8pm this benefits the local food

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bank and the Knead Cafe, which is a donation

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based cafe. It also supports

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other food initiatives. They have a community dinner that they do once

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a month. It's the Knead Cafe, ironically

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started by Bon Jovi, another two Bon Jovi references in one show.

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We've got the audio fiction primary. If you don't like just

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talking into a microphone and telling stories, well, you could write a drama.

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And Jessica Sutton is going to show you how to do this after Christmas. It's

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the Saturday after Christmas and we got the humorous podcast.

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I'll tell you what's not humorous. Me coughing on the microphone. It's coming up

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in 2026. We'll have dates and deets

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at poduty.com P O-D-U-T-Y.com

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Bubba, thank you again for joining me. This was everything I hope to be

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and so much more. This was a total blast.

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I had so much fun, Jeff. And I just want to tell you, I'm so

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proud of you, man. What, what you're building is not just important,

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but it's really entertaining. And I hope people show up for you

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and start filling up that theater and continue to support everything that

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you're doing. Thanks for having me. You're welcome. If they, if you

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build it, they will come. And I've got one last question for you.

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What time is it?

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What. Time is

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it?

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The only live news podcast about

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podcasting from the stage.

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Day.

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The only live news podcast about

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podcasting from the stage.

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The only live news podcast about podcasting. Yeah,

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dude. If you asked anyone to create that for you as a

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musician, they'd be like this guy. I'm not doing that. Why do

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we want that song again? You want me to say what?

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How to Poduty? No. What's up? Poduty? I don't

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even know. It sounds like what my cat left in my garage

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for me earlier today. Oh, my God. I'm gonna get canceled.

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So we had an outdoor cat that I've been feeding, and it's getting cold now,

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so I was like, okay, you can stay in. She usually goes outside and uses

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the bathroom. And I opened my door to the garage today, and I was like,

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oh, she. There's cat in here. There's cat I should have put a box

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in for, but she'd been good. But it was me. I'll find a big. I

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was like. This man was the size of a dog's. Like, what are you eating

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out there? Yeah, I'm burning sage in here.

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And that's a super Poduty,

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dude. What a cool show, man.