[upbeat music] The Noon Hour of Madness and Mayhem: The Podcast.
Well, the contest portion doesn't make it to the Noon Hour of Madness and Mayhem Podcast just because there's so much stuff that has to be done-
Yeah
... contest-wise that it would be impossible. Also, the audio comes through Audition, so we can't record into Audition while-
I know we need to-
... also airing it
... need to fix that, uh, Vox Pro.
Yes.
Uh, go ahead and play that clip one more time, 'cause we still have-
Well, I can't. I gotta go to my Public folder.
[coughs]
Uh, here, let me go to Windows Media Player here.
Yeah. Yeah, that's what I've been using to play clips.
It's still loading.
I just wanna know why. We'll take this feeling to our graves. For every heart we betray.
We'll even give out a hint.
Why?
Yeah.
Just to make it a little easier.
Okay, whatever.
That two of the bands, or both of the bands-
Are headliners
... are headliners. There you go. They're, they're at the top of the bill. All right, everybody, we did sorta make it easy. [laughs] So if you were paying attention and you heard the other two headlining acts, you can probably eliminate them and figure that out. Now you just gotta figure out what song. Play it one more time.
Windows M- I just closed the-
Stop closing it.
It's Windows Media Player.
I just wanna know why.
We'll take this feeling to our graves. For every heart we betray.
So if you wanna win our two tickets to Aftershock, you gotta call and tell us what those two songs are. We'll just leave it open throughout the hour here, 208-535-1015. And let's talk Lorna Shore, Peaches.
Okay.
All right. I just found this article about Lorna Shore from, uh, Metal Hammer, saying, "Lorna Shore don't wanna be deathcore's biggest band. They want to be the biggest band in metal." And that's a, you know, a good aspiration to have.
Good luck.
But they're just not gonna be able to do it with their current sound.
No.
Y- so you've listened to the whole new album, right?
Uh, i- bits and pieces.
Okay, I'm-
I can only take that... I mean, it's, it's the exact same as all their other tracks.
Well, yeah-
I mean, I feel bad for that poor drummer.
[laughs]
Right? He's doing the... Yeah, he's doing the machine gun type sound. You got Will, of course, doing his thing. You got the guitarist going everywhere. It's the exact same Lorna Shore beside... But then, like, halfway through the album, then you start getting all this sappy stuff.
So, is there clean singing on it?
Not really, but you can understand more of what he's saying.
Okay.
Like, the song Glenwood that I played for Peaches' Pick of the Day, like, couple days ago, it's a whole song about his relationship with his father. [laughs] Now it's just, like, this whole sad thing.
Yeah. Uh, I mean, and I think they write for, for that type of really heavy music. They write pretty catchy stuff. But if you wanna be the biggest band in metal, you gotta take a look at the biggest bands in metal. Okay. Metallica. Okay? You know how Metallica got massive?
They have that universal appeal. But also-
They put out the Black Album.
Well, also they put out stuff way back when that stuff was relatively new.
Yeah, and, I mean, th- they were one of the pioneers in thrash, but when, once they made those changes and went with a more mainstream sound, they really, really blew up.
Asking Alexandria.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, they blew up. Bring Me the Horizon.
Bring Me the Horizon, another one. Y- and you take a look at some of the other biggest bands in metal, Ghost, Will's favorite band, Sleep Token.
And of course you get all those people that's, "That's not metal."
Yeah.
I, I've talked about it many times with, uh, Poppy.
Yeah.
Any single time someone posts a live performance of hers, some, you know, guy that looks like he's 350 pounds in the comment section goes, "Not metal."
And Poppy is definitely metal.
Yeah.
Uh, the crowd-
She's awesome.
The crowd was the most intense crowd I've seen at any show, like, in probably a few years. It was crazy. I, I hurt my tailbone.
[laughs]
Got knocked down in that pit. I was sore for weeks. Um, but I, I said before Lorna Shore put out their first album, I thought they were gonna put out some songs with some clean, catchy choruses. You have to have that kind of universal appeal in order to blow up to be one of... or to be the biggest band in metal.
Well, here's the thing. Could you imagine releasing an album called I Feel the Ever Black something Within Me, Festering Within Me?
Is that what it's called?
Yeah. Yeah, that's what it's called. Could you imagine releasing that type of album, being known as Lorna Shore, and you release clean-singing mainstream music? r/Metalcore would not let that down.
Eh, but who cares about them?
And not even them, just the majority of the audience.
'Cause I think Lorna Shore's got the, uh, the ability to write good hooks. I think they could get radio play if they put out, like, one toned-down song.
Look at Turnstile.
Yeah.
They used to be hardcore punk, and now they've kinda-
Mm-hmm
... turned into this e- experimental rock type sound. I enjoy all their new stuff.
Oh, yeah. Like, I mean, I'm a huge metal fan, but I can't just listen to nothing but brutality.
Right.
I gotta have some, something to mix it up in there. You know?
Slaughter to Prevail I feel like pretty soon will also change things up.
I, I'd be, yeah, very surprised if they didn't. 'Cause he, he's put out covers of, uh, like pop songs and things like that.
But he's also doing his signature deathcore vocals.
Yeah.
I don't think he can sing all that well.
Maybe not. I, I don't know if I've heard him clean sing.
I know Will can because he's done covers of Sleep Token, covers of Bring Me the Horizon. He's done-
Yeah
... a whole bunch of stuff.
Yeah, so I'm really surprised that they're not trying to bring it to the next level and, sorry everybody, sellout a little bit, but-
Well, wasn't there a guitarist just saying recently about how they, they hate this new pop metal thing that's going around?
I don't know. I don't know if I saw that or not.
This pop metal genre. I don't know if it's a real art. I just saw the headline there. Lorna Shore's guitarist says he hates the pop metal that's trending nowadays.
Hm.
But then you also have Will Ramos [laughs] you know, worshiping Sleep Token.
Yeah. Well, and bandmates, you know, ev- everybody's got their own taste. That could be it. I, 'cause Will's the newest member of Lorna Shore, right? I think so.
Uh, yeah. Yeah, wasn't it, like, uh, wasn't it C.J., uh, McCreery?
Some... I can't remember his name.
And then it was also Tom Barber of Chelsea Grin. He was in there at one point.
Yeah, they actually, like, played a small show years ago. I don't remember what venue, but a little tiny venue here. Um...... and, anyway, I just think, you know, like, for local bands, if you want some universal appeal, you gotta have a big, catchy chorus, you know? Um, or even, like, I mean, Lamb of God's pretty much heavy all the time, but they put out that banger Redneck, you know? And that blew 'em up 'cause-
Walk with Me and Heck.
Walk with Me and Heck, you know? Top quality, catchy, still heavy. Look at, like, Pantera, you know, you, you gotta have some big hooks and Lorna Shore just pummels ya. And I think that, uh, it would do 'em some good to try something new. But-
Well, they put out a 10-minute-long song called Forevermore, and it's all symphonic, and most of their stuff is-
Yeah
... like, long-winded stuff. So...
I love 'em. I think they're great. I just, I would like to see 'em blow up bigger.
Me too, yeah.
So, hopefully next go around, you know, they, they give us something, something unique. Something with something new.
I mean, they're doing, they're doing way better than almost all deathcore bands out there. I think they're the biggest one.
Yeah, yeah.
Right?
I mean, and I don't even know if you, do you call them deathcore?
I don't know.
I don't know what they are. I don't, I can't keep track of all these genres, you know.
Most people call them noise.
That's right, a bunch of racket. [screwing voice]
I can't understand a word he's saying, those Cookie Monster vocals.
[grunting voice] It's a screamo.
Here's something for the old people. Jerry Cantrell. [instrumental music plays] Victor, I gotta talk about this with you, because I wanna make sure I, uh, don't go too off the rails with this one.
Okay.
Uh, I did mention it on the afternoon show, but then I deleted the break.
Oh, okay.
'Cause I was thinking, I'm like, "Well, last time Jay was all like, 'You shouldn't be, uh, defending California,'" or something like that. He said something about like, "You shouldn't be being mean to people from here." And I'm like, "Well, people are mean to me all the time for being where I'm from, and no matter what, if I make one driving mistake," "Stop driving like an out of state Californian." That type of thing, right?
Well, yeah, and, I mean, any time people see anything they don't like around here, they blame California for some reason.
Right.
Uh, it's, it's really dumb when I see those comments. Or-
There was, uh, somebody that I was talking to recently that said, uh, he, he heard from one of his teachers that 48% of the p- of, uh, Californians have wanted or planned to move to Idaho, or something like that.
Well, that-
And that's not true.
That's not true at all.
Whatsoever [laughs].
Ca- like-
T- Texas is over there getting, you know, so many people.
Oh yeah. Dude.
Florida as well, Arizona, Tennessee. Nashville has gotten it way bad.
Yeah. Yeah. Like, if, can you imagine if half of the st- [laughs] how many people live in the state of California? Th-
I think there's like 30 million.
Yeah, th- like, we don't have places for them to live.
39, 39.43 million people as of 2024.
What's Idaho's population?
Let's find out.
[laughs]
2.002 million as of last year.
Yeah, so if 20 million people from [laughs] California tried to move here, where are they gonna live, you know? That's right, we'll tear down everything and build apartments.
Right, right.
[laughs]
Well, East Idaho News posted yesterday that the old Carl's Jr. on 17th Street is now going to be a Chipotle.
Yeah, exciting. Something new, something different.
We have somebody calling in.
Oh, yeah. Let's see if they wanna play the game.
K-Bear, how's it going?
Good. See, I'd give you the answers, but I can't go.
Well, then what are you doing? [laughs] Yeah.
No, no. I'm just telling you, I think that's, uh, the, well, a lot of people are in that boat, 'cause-
Ah
... you've got Korn, or you've got Jonathan Davis singing. But you've got, one of them's Korn and the other one's Bring Me The Horizon.
Oh, you, uh, you were giving out some clues here. You are correct. But yeah, you know, that's, that's the giveaway, man. We'll give away almost 1200-
Yeah
... bucks in tickets, you just gotta drive yourself there. That's it.
No, I just can't do it. I'm sending the wife to Vegas the next week, so I can't do it. So-
I get it, man. Well, thanks for giving out some more clues.
All right.
And we'll see if anybody gets it. Uh, here, in just a second we'll play the audio, then we'll, uh, get back to what we were talking about. But thanks, man.
All right, no problem.
Peace. You got that clip up?
Let me pull it up again.
All right.
Here it is. It's loading.
I just want a new life. We'll take this feeling till our graves. For every heart we've betrayed.
All right.
So, what? Go ahead.
I was gonna say, so you know it's Korn and Bring Me The Horizon, you just gotta tell us what the songs are and we'll give you two tickets to Aftershock, the biggest metal festival, biggest rock and metal festival in the west. October 2nd through the 5th. Like, 1200 bucks in tickets, you just gotta get yourself there.
Right, that's it.
So, you wanna guess? Call us.
Well, I, I, um, I'm speaking of California [laughs].
[laughs] That's an epic.
It's Aftershock, but, uh-
Maybe that's it. I wanna go to California.
Oh, I shoulda named the giveaway that.
[laughs]
Something like that. But no, uh, the old Carl's Jr. on 17th Street is getting transformed into a Chipotle.
Yeah. Like-
And for some reason, people are labeling Chipotle, first of all, as a California restaurant.
Is it?
Where did Chipotle start? Denver, Colorado.
Denver? What? That's a, that's a s- another liberal place.
Right. [laughs]
[laughs] Did it, why do people have to complain about everything? I mean, if you don't wanna eat at Chipotle, you don't have to go. I like having options. You know?
Well, that, that's the thing, and there was a lot of people, uh, did East Idaho News delete a whole bunch of comments, or do I have somebody else? I think Nate Eaton personally posted it on his page.
I think he did. Yeah.
And there was a lot of people. It might've actually gotten deleted, 'cause I think my comment stopped getting reactions. Uh, I think it might've. Yeah.
Wow. Nate took it down 'cause it's so controversial.
Uh, I don't know, but it has, this, it might've been another post. But, "Guess what's coming to Idaho Falls?" And it shows obviously the Chipotle bag.
Yeah.
With the burrito and some sort of organic lemonade with it too, which is definitely a California thing, if I've ever seen one.
[laughs] That's right. I don't drink organic. [laughs]
But, uh, there was a person named Trace that said, "And just like that, we are California."
What?
And-... that has nothing to do, nothing at all [laughs] to do with California. It, uh, a Chipotle coming here is just adding a, I would say, a more expensive, uh, fast, um, Mexican-American restaurant to the area.
Yeah.
And there was already one in Rexburg. I went there, paid 16 bucks for this burrito and it wasn't all, all that great, but it was-
All right
... it was all right.
I just, I like trying new things, and I like having options.
Right.
You know? Like, I'm bummed that Sweeto Burrito is gone. I liked that place.
They used to play Cave Air in their lobby, I thought.
I know. Yeah. So what's wrong with a little bit of variety everybody? It's not a carwash. You know, it's not a carwash or a soda shop.
It's not a soda shop yet. [laughs]
That's right.
It's not a bank.
Stop your complaining.
Not a Super Lawn Credit Union. [laughs]
Oh, man. Like, people will just complain about anything. Oh, you're giving me a selection. Oh, I have options.
Well, there's o- there's one person saying, "Don't we already have Cafe Rio and Costa Vita?"
Don't get me started on one of those. [laughs]
[laughs] Where did-
I like Costa Vita, that's for sure. Costa Vita's great. Eh, eh, Cafe Rio's good too. I'm just playing everybody.
I was trying to figure out where did Costa Vita start? Layton, Utah.
Yea- really?
Where did Cafe Rio start, start? St. George, Utah.
Both of them are out of Utah?
Yeah.
Huh. Interesting. Well, and they're like... Okay, anyway, let's just move along back to Chipotle, even though we should, uh, give a shout-out to Costa Vita. Um,
just shut up people. Just shut up-
Right. [laughs]
... with your dumb crap. Quit complaining. Enjoy having options. You know, you could live in, what... You think you got anybody in Aberdeen complaining if a new restaurant rolls in? No! They're happy. All right? Options are good. [instrumental music plays]
All right. Let's wrap up this noon hour of madness and mayhem with something positive. Somebody posted on R/AskReddit... Again, I'm a leftist, so that's the reason why I use Reddit.
[laughs]
Um-
You're so far left, Peaches.
Uh, that's right.
[laughs]
I can't turn right in my car either.
[laughs]
Uh, what's the coolest place in the USA that most people don't know about?
Okay. Coolest place that a lot of people don't know about.
But you're gonna get a lot of people that say, "I don't want people to know about what I like, because-"
I hate that.
"... there's gonna be an influx of tourists."
Like when someone asks, you know, for a good camping spot-
Oh, I know-
... and people lose their mind on 'em, or-
Yeah, Katie said something like that on the air one time.
[laughs]
I think it was s- when she was mid-days on 105 The Hawk, she was talking about a camping spot and then just said, "I'm not gonna reveal where it's at. I don't want you people showing up there."
[sighs]
She owns it. [laughs]
She owns the spot, oh.
I'm just making a, making a joke.
It's possible. That's the best way to get a great camping spot, buy dirt, as that country song said.
Oh, it's a terrible song.
[laughs] Uh, what are some of the places they're listening? Like, I recently went through a couple little cool small towns, so I'm gonna, you know, throw 'em out there for everybody to be aware of. Wallace in northern Idaho, uh, really cool, just outside of Coeur d'Alene. And then Leavenworth, Washington was really cool too. It's like, uh, the entire town looks like a German village.
Cool.
Yeah.
It was neat, it was neat.
I s- I did see your f- your pictures of, uh, Wallace, Idaho. It looked, uh, rather cool.
Well, it's-
I'd rather, I'd much rather... Uh, I think I'm, I might need to go there.
It wi- it was great, dude, and the drive there is fantastic. You know, it's a beautiful drive if you, uh, if you go through, uh, Missoula and, and such. So, yeah.
Oh, someone... Uh, the top answer here says, "The whole of Southeast Arizona." The-
Southeast.
Is it the Chiricahua? [laughs] I don't know how you say the, uh-
Huh.
"The mountains are haunting. The biodiversity is staggering."
I don't know if I've been to Southeast Arizona. I mean, I've been down to Tucson, but that's, I think kinda central. You know South, Southcentral, yeah.
[laughs]
I've been to Tucson. I've been everywhere. I've been everywhere, man.
[laughs]
I've been to world... Uh, "Great Sand Dunes National Park, Colorado. Massive sand dunes sitting right against the Rocky Mountains. It feels like two worlds colliding."
That sounds cool.
Uh, "Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Gloriously beautiful," is what this person wrote. "Yoopers-"
Michigan, huh? I wouldn't think of anything-
[laughs] You should
... in Michigan being beautiful.
People won't like me spilling the beans. What's a Yooper?
Yooper?
Yeah. Y-O-O-P-E-R-S.
Uh, I've never heard that phrase.
Oh. Yoopers are residents of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. That's it.
Oh, okay. Yeah, I've never heard about the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
Big Bend National Park is also right up there.
All right.
Uh, the Painted Hills in Oregon.
You know, th- this is kinda cool, 'cause I've never heard of, uh, many of these places.
Ohio Caverns, America's most colorful caves that everyone drives past to go to Mammoth instead.
Hmm. This is a good thread. Might have to save it for the next time I road trip, to Ohio. [laughs]
Yeah. You can do that. If Victor's going to Ohio.
I can't wait to go to Ohio. I hear it's great, and then I'm gonna put Mississippi next on the list. [laughs]
[laughs] Uh, sp- speaking of, uh, fun road trips to go to places that are great, uh, if p-... Is the... Are the Aftershock g- tickets still up for grabs, or-
I think they're still [laughs] up for grabs.
[laughs]
If anybody wants to go see beautiful Sacramento, you gotta drive yourself there, but we'll give you almost $1200 in concert tickets.
Should I play the audio one more time?
Yeah, let's play it one more time.
All right. Here we go.
I just want no war.
We'll take this feeling till our graves. For every heart we've betrayed.
All right. If anybody wants to tell us what those two songs are, we'll give you two tickets to Aftershock in Sacramento. You just gotta get yourself there. Four days of music, like 115 bands. It's gonna be awesome.
Are you gonna be hanging out in here? Because-
Mm-hmm
... the noon hour's over, so-
Yeah
... I feel like, uh, I'm gonna get my lunch break finally.
Yeah, I'll hang out and-
Go get myself a cheeseburger.
That's right. National Cheeseburger Day. Uh, pick one up on your drive to Sacramento. They're good for road tripping. Um, yeah. I'll hang out in here and see if anybody calls Peaches. [instrumental music plays]
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