Leading Engaged Learning


On Leading Engaged Learning, host Miriam Williams sits down with Dr. Jason James, Superintendent of Shawnee Public Schools, to explore how districts can better connect literacy, engagement, and real-world readiness.


With a background spanning classroom teaching, school leadership, and district administration, Dr. James shares how Shawnee Public Schools is rethinking traditional education models to better prepare students for life after graduation. From implementing Individual Career Academic Plans (ICAP) starting in middle school to strengthening early literacy foundations and expanding career-connected learning opportunities, this conversation highlights how aligning instruction with student interests can transform engagement and outcomes.


Key Moments


03:54 ICAP: Starting Career Conversations Early


07:57 Aligning Academics with Student Goals


10:04 Flexibility in Career Pathways


13:44 Exploring Career Academies


17:12 Literacy as the Foundation for All Pathways


19:41 Early Intervention and High Expectations


21:17 The Role of Fluency in Reading Success


23:46 Lessons from Literacy Policy and Investment


27:57 Rethinking Traditional Instruction Models


29:23 Measuring Progress Through Data and Systems


31:07 Strengthening Tier 1 Instruction


34:40 Vision: 100% Life-Ready Graduates


36:11 Enrolled, Employed, or Enlisted (3E Goal)


38:55 Why Education Systems Must Evolve


Why You’ll Love This Episode


This episode offers a fresh perspective on how districts can bridge the gap between academic learning and real-world outcomes. Dr. James emphasizes that literacy and engagement are not separate from career readiness—they are the foundation of it.


You’ll learn:

  • Why starting career conversations as early as middle school changes student motivation


  • How ICAP helps align academics, interests, and long-term goals


  • The importance of early literacy, fluency, and foundational skills for all pathways


  • Why traditional instructional models often fail to engage today’s students


  • How interest-based learning can unlock student potential—even for struggling learners


  • A practical approach to using data, interventions, and Tier 1 instruction to drive improvement


  • What it means to graduate students who are truly “life-ready”


  • How districts can measure success beyond graduation


Dr. James also reinforces a critical idea: when students see relevance in what they’re learning, engagement increases—and so do outcomes.




Connect with Our Guest


Dr. Jason James
Superintendent, Shawnee Public Schools


LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-james-a6648b399
Website: https://www.shawnee.k12.ok.us/ 




Connect with Us


3P Learning Inc
Website: https://www.3plearning.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/3p-learning 




About Leading Engaged Learning


Leading Engaged Learning is a podcast series for district leaders and education innovators focused on what it really takes to improve literacy outcomes by strengthening student engagement. Hosted by Miriam Williams and produced by 3P Learning Inc, each episode explores the real-world decisions, constraints, and tradeoffs behind building systems that help students become more confident readers.



What is Leading Engaged Learning?

Leading Engaged Learning is a podcast series for district leaders and education innovators focused on what it really takes to improve literacy outcomes by strengthening student engagement. Each episode explores the real-world decisions, constraints, and tradeoffs behind building systems that help students become more confident readers.