WEBVTT 00:00:03.769 --> 00:00:07.461 You are listening to the USDN on the 00:00:07.541 --> 00:00:08.865 DFPN. 00:00:40.691 --> 00:00:40.893 Thank you. 00:01:11.763 --> 00:01:13.725 what is up everybody it's the chairman of 00:01:13.766 --> 00:01:15.025 the united states department of nerves 00:01:15.046 --> 00:01:17.007 where we are for the people by the 00:01:17.048 --> 00:01:21.150 people and of the people and tonight we're 00:01:21.171 --> 00:01:24.272 taking one more trip to new orleans the 00:01:24.293 --> 00:01:29.356 year is the city breathes but it's shallow 00:01:29.397 --> 00:01:32.578 breath heavy with sin and smoke the dead 00:01:32.618 --> 00:01:35.721 don't rest here and sometimes they don't 00:01:35.781 --> 00:01:36.361 rest at all 00:01:37.328 --> 00:01:37.808 Tonight, 00:01:37.909 --> 00:01:39.950 the United States Department of Nerds is 00:01:40.031 --> 00:01:44.174 happy to have Stiles and his lovely wife, 00:01:44.213 --> 00:01:44.713 Nicole, 00:01:45.034 --> 00:01:46.995 from Lucky Devil Comets on to talk about 00:01:47.036 --> 00:01:49.356 the plague. 00:01:49.477 --> 00:01:50.578 Issue number one. 00:01:51.618 --> 00:01:54.400 Stiles, Nicole, welcome to the show. 00:01:54.620 --> 00:01:55.260 How the hell you doing? 00:01:55.301 --> 00:01:55.480 Oh, great. 00:01:55.501 --> 00:01:57.882 Doing good, man. 00:01:57.923 --> 00:01:59.963 Thanks for having us. 00:02:00.024 --> 00:02:01.084 Excited to jump into it. 00:02:02.025 --> 00:02:03.466 Oh, welcome aboard, man. 00:02:03.486 --> 00:02:04.768 I'm happy to have y'all here. 00:02:05.328 --> 00:02:06.849 It's a lot of hype. 00:02:08.157 --> 00:02:09.998 find the plague and i'm happy to be 00:02:10.019 --> 00:02:15.223 a part of it now then let's start 00:02:15.242 --> 00:02:18.705 where the curse begins at the moment of 00:02:18.846 --> 00:02:24.950 creation how what was your influence for 00:02:24.991 --> 00:02:28.152 the plague like what made you go i'm 00:02:28.173 --> 00:02:32.657 gonna write a comic book the plague yeah 00:02:32.697 --> 00:02:34.437 so i've always wanted to do a comic 00:02:35.139 --> 00:02:35.179 um 00:02:36.365 --> 00:02:37.224 It's just that, you know, life, 00:02:37.665 --> 00:02:39.907 you get busy, your hobbies drop off, 00:02:39.926 --> 00:02:41.888 you're trying to make money, you know, 00:02:41.907 --> 00:02:42.907 that whole thing. 00:02:43.668 --> 00:02:45.068 I've been doing that one for forty three 00:02:45.088 --> 00:02:45.368 years. 00:02:45.449 --> 00:02:45.748 Yes. 00:02:46.169 --> 00:02:46.509 Yeah. 00:02:46.530 --> 00:02:47.389 Well aware of that one. 00:02:47.409 --> 00:02:49.991 I'm thirty five and I mean, 00:02:50.512 --> 00:02:51.472 it's taken me this long, 00:02:51.512 --> 00:02:53.633 but finally I got everything together. 00:02:53.673 --> 00:02:55.174 I got the idea, the script. 00:02:55.993 --> 00:02:56.593 So, like I said, 00:02:56.614 --> 00:02:57.775 I've always wanted to do it and I'm 00:02:57.814 --> 00:02:59.836 finally kind of in a position where I 00:02:59.876 --> 00:03:00.276 can do it. 00:03:02.676 --> 00:03:03.157 I love it, dude. 00:03:03.217 --> 00:03:03.717 I love to hear. 00:03:03.737 --> 00:03:04.618 So what were some of your, 00:03:05.079 --> 00:03:09.843 like what comic book kind of influenced 00:03:09.943 --> 00:03:13.527 this book and kind of gave you the 00:03:13.687 --> 00:03:14.087 idea? 00:03:14.127 --> 00:03:14.408 Like, 00:03:15.409 --> 00:03:17.192 was there a particular comic book out 00:03:17.211 --> 00:03:19.993 there that just heavily influenced you for 00:03:20.014 --> 00:03:20.294 this? 00:03:21.766 --> 00:03:23.848 yeah um i've had a few people reach 00:03:23.949 --> 00:03:25.830 out and say oh cool comic it gives 00:03:25.870 --> 00:03:27.972 me like spawn vibes or ghost rider yeah 00:03:28.032 --> 00:03:32.135 that's that was my uh my initial vibe 00:03:32.175 --> 00:03:35.098 was spawn and being a long time spawn 00:03:35.138 --> 00:03:39.502 fan since the nineties i was just like 00:03:39.602 --> 00:03:42.183 comics amazing yeah oh yeah most 00:03:42.204 --> 00:03:44.044 definitely i matter of fact that's 00:03:44.085 --> 00:03:45.687 probably ninety percent of the comic books 00:03:45.826 --> 00:03:48.188 i read today are all from image comics 00:03:49.129 --> 00:03:49.349 so 00:03:50.418 --> 00:03:52.218 There's a lot of interesting stuff going 00:03:52.239 --> 00:03:56.340 on over there in the whole indie scene. 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:57.659 They're part of the top three now. 00:03:58.020 --> 00:04:01.341 I know they're still heavily indie 00:04:03.722 --> 00:04:04.322 influenced, 00:04:04.741 --> 00:04:06.182 but they're probably the number three 00:04:06.643 --> 00:04:08.644 comic book creator out there right now. 00:04:09.623 --> 00:04:11.063 Followed by Boom and Dynamite. 00:04:11.304 --> 00:04:13.245 All three absolutely killing it. 00:04:15.025 --> 00:04:16.605 We still refer to them as indies, but 00:04:17.767 --> 00:04:19.848 Image is easily putting up Marvel money, 00:04:20.108 --> 00:04:21.589 maybe DC money, you know? 00:04:21.610 --> 00:04:22.690 Yeah, that's true. 00:04:23.350 --> 00:04:24.391 And they're still going strong. 00:04:24.411 --> 00:04:25.211 I mean, 00:04:25.252 --> 00:04:27.572 Spawn is like on its fifth hundredth issue 00:04:27.632 --> 00:04:27.853 now. 00:04:27.932 --> 00:04:29.053 I don't even know. 00:04:29.434 --> 00:04:29.694 No, no. 00:04:29.733 --> 00:04:31.754 Three hundred and seventy-something, 00:04:31.774 --> 00:04:33.295 I believe, is my last count. 00:04:33.915 --> 00:04:35.137 I can tell you the exact number, 00:04:35.156 --> 00:04:39.278 but I don't want to look. 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:40.158 I like Spawn. 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:41.399 That's why I know. 00:04:42.500 --> 00:04:44.180 I've been collecting Spawn since, 00:04:44.500 --> 00:04:45.442 like I said, the nineties. 00:04:46.882 --> 00:04:47.062 So... 00:04:49.093 --> 00:04:50.353 What inspired this story? 00:04:50.374 --> 00:04:52.394 Was it more of a comic influence or 00:04:52.475 --> 00:04:54.016 something climatic? 00:04:54.036 --> 00:04:55.355 Not quite. 00:04:55.375 --> 00:04:57.997 Like the Crow or the Punisher? 00:04:59.879 --> 00:05:01.980 Yeah, those are great characters. 00:05:02.019 --> 00:05:03.019 I love all those characters. 00:05:03.100 --> 00:05:04.901 But like I said, 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:06.242 people have reached out and said it's very 00:05:06.281 --> 00:05:08.002 like Spawn, very Ghost Rider. 00:05:08.083 --> 00:05:10.204 But actually, 00:05:10.264 --> 00:05:12.105 I think the direct influences would be 00:05:12.144 --> 00:05:12.944 like Swamp Thing. 00:05:13.745 --> 00:05:14.625 Oh, I like that. 00:05:14.946 --> 00:05:15.125 Yeah, 00:05:15.206 --> 00:05:17.708 hence like the New Orleans swamp setting. 00:05:17.767 --> 00:05:18.088 Oh, yeah. 00:05:18.869 --> 00:05:20.891 And outside of comics, 00:05:20.951 --> 00:05:22.271 I'd say George Orwell's Nineteen 00:05:22.291 --> 00:05:22.791 Eighty-Four. 00:05:23.533 --> 00:05:24.434 Ooh, good one. 00:05:24.553 --> 00:05:25.093 Yeah. 00:05:25.213 --> 00:05:26.435 I feel like I've got a lot of 00:05:26.454 --> 00:05:28.757 different influences. 00:05:28.797 --> 00:05:29.697 Actually, I know. 00:05:29.718 --> 00:05:32.720 From what you sent me on the book 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:33.100 over, 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:34.682 it does have some of that Nineteen 00:05:34.721 --> 00:05:37.184 Eighty-Four vibes to it. 00:05:37.863 --> 00:05:38.745 No, I like that. 00:05:39.045 --> 00:05:41.187 Oh, that's a good one. 00:05:41.226 --> 00:05:41.507 Yeah, yeah. 00:05:41.526 --> 00:05:42.427 I like that one a lot. 00:05:43.665 --> 00:05:45.668 So what was the very first image or 00:05:45.728 --> 00:05:47.968 idea that stuck in your mind when you 00:05:48.009 --> 00:05:49.730 knew you had to make this comic? 00:05:51.872 --> 00:05:53.314 Well, when I first got started, 00:05:53.814 --> 00:05:55.696 it really just all started with a concept. 00:05:56.175 --> 00:05:57.336 I didn't really know what I was doing 00:05:57.377 --> 00:05:58.218 or what I was setting out. 00:05:58.617 --> 00:06:00.019 I just wanted to create something cool. 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:03.961 And so the original idea for the plague 00:06:03.982 --> 00:06:05.043 was completely different. 00:06:05.543 --> 00:06:08.206 It was not a supernatural story. 00:06:08.266 --> 00:06:11.807 It was more like experiment gone wrong 00:06:11.869 --> 00:06:12.329 kind of thing. 00:06:14.408 --> 00:06:16.970 And with this one, sorry, 00:06:16.990 --> 00:06:18.531 that would have been a really cool concept 00:06:18.550 --> 00:06:20.192 to follow as well with this one, 00:06:20.793 --> 00:06:23.154 with how you got the lab set in 00:06:23.175 --> 00:06:24.175 in the very beginning. 00:06:24.797 --> 00:06:25.596 Yeah, well, 00:06:25.617 --> 00:06:26.697 that's where it all comes from. 00:06:26.798 --> 00:06:28.240 I mean, that was the original idea. 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:31.161 And so I created the original concept for 00:06:31.182 --> 00:06:31.783 the character. 00:06:32.002 --> 00:06:33.663 And my wife took one look and said, 00:06:34.384 --> 00:06:35.225 that looks like Deadpool. 00:06:37.490 --> 00:06:38.651 And it was actually, 00:06:38.771 --> 00:06:41.293 it's kind of like a cross between the 00:06:41.353 --> 00:06:42.915 Toxic Avenger and Deadpool. 00:06:42.935 --> 00:06:46.016 Oh, classic. 00:06:46.057 --> 00:06:47.697 Jersey's favorite son. 00:06:47.718 --> 00:06:50.100 I have an image of the, 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:51.781 this is the original artwork for what the 00:06:51.821 --> 00:06:52.721 play was meant to be. 00:06:52.742 --> 00:06:55.303 I don't know if you can see that. 00:06:56.944 --> 00:06:58.786 It almost looks like the mask with Jim 00:06:58.826 --> 00:06:59.846 Carrey a little bit. 00:07:00.708 --> 00:07:02.850 And then the Toxic Avenger in the mask 00:07:02.889 --> 00:07:03.850 had a baby. 00:07:03.891 --> 00:07:04.151 Yeah. 00:07:05.139 --> 00:07:06.439 It was very slapstick, 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:08.961 very comedy-oriented. 00:07:09.721 --> 00:07:10.261 Story-wise, 00:07:10.281 --> 00:07:11.942 I would almost say it's like Ghostbusters 00:07:11.982 --> 00:07:12.882 meets Buffy. 00:07:14.442 --> 00:07:15.742 It was meant to be very slapstick, 00:07:15.822 --> 00:07:16.343 off-the-wall. 00:07:16.423 --> 00:07:16.762 Yeah, 00:07:16.783 --> 00:07:19.382 that would have definitely been a strange 00:07:19.502 --> 00:07:21.524 one to... But it would have worked, 00:07:21.564 --> 00:07:22.324 though, I feel. 00:07:23.163 --> 00:07:25.204 Sometimes it's those odd combinations that 00:07:25.524 --> 00:07:25.865 work. 00:07:26.704 --> 00:07:27.824 So that could have worked too. 00:07:28.285 --> 00:07:29.605 But I'm glad you're going in the direction 00:07:29.625 --> 00:07:30.266 you're going in. 00:07:30.766 --> 00:07:31.065 Nicole, 00:07:31.086 --> 00:07:34.086 I appreciate you pushing that one along. 00:07:34.107 --> 00:07:38.069 Well, she has a great eye for art. 00:07:39.189 --> 00:07:40.529 She's a great artist herself. 00:07:42.050 --> 00:07:43.331 Whenever she gives me critique, 00:07:43.411 --> 00:07:44.290 I take it seriously. 00:07:44.331 --> 00:07:46.492 Yeah, she's a fantastic artist. 00:07:46.531 --> 00:07:48.992 She actually created the wallpapers, 00:07:49.012 --> 00:07:50.733 which will be on our Kickstarter. 00:07:51.194 --> 00:07:52.774 Those will be completely for free. 00:07:53.831 --> 00:07:56.192 uh but yeah so like i said she's 00:07:56.232 --> 00:08:00.634 my critique expert so after i originally 00:08:00.675 --> 00:08:02.536 created the plague she told me that you 00:08:02.555 --> 00:08:04.297 know i need some tweaks need some changes 00:08:04.398 --> 00:08:06.119 so i went back to the drawing board 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:08.819 and i just started playing around seeing 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:11.021 what i could create and then finally i 00:08:11.041 --> 00:08:12.362 just kind of slapped the cape on them 00:08:13.382 --> 00:08:15.223 which initially i wasn't going in that 00:08:15.283 --> 00:08:17.084 direction i wasn't thinking spawn 00:08:17.165 --> 00:08:19.766 supernatural yeah but for some reason i 00:08:19.826 --> 00:08:21.048 slapped that cape on and just 00:08:21.858 --> 00:08:23.699 stood out it was like okay i got 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:26.601 something here no it looks really freaking 00:08:26.641 --> 00:08:28.504 good not just because it's like it's the 00:08:28.524 --> 00:08:30.125 way this the cape is done the way 00:08:30.144 --> 00:08:32.326 it like comes like completely around to 00:08:32.366 --> 00:08:34.368 like where it hides some of his face 00:08:34.408 --> 00:08:36.610 too yeah that to me is really cool 00:08:36.629 --> 00:08:38.150 the way you did the cape so kudos 00:08:38.191 --> 00:08:39.692 on that man it's a really 00:08:40.352 --> 00:08:43.054 really cool character like you can kind of 00:08:43.115 --> 00:08:45.956 see where the influences come from with 00:08:46.017 --> 00:08:48.698 him even though he's a very different 00:08:48.798 --> 00:08:51.421 character but you can you can see the 00:08:51.520 --> 00:08:53.523 subtle influences in him from the other 00:08:53.562 --> 00:08:55.644 characters you may have drawn from and i 00:08:55.864 --> 00:08:58.365 really really like that about the plague 00:08:58.446 --> 00:09:01.008 it's it's a really cool concept and a 00:09:01.067 --> 00:09:02.068 really cool character 00:09:03.168 --> 00:09:05.529 But got to ask, though, 00:09:05.929 --> 00:09:08.231 why New Orleans in twenty thirty? 00:09:08.692 --> 00:09:11.453 And what does that set in bring to 00:09:11.494 --> 00:09:14.355 the tone of this story? 00:09:14.696 --> 00:09:15.355 Yeah, well, 00:09:15.375 --> 00:09:17.118 New Orleans was my first choice when it 00:09:17.138 --> 00:09:18.519 came to deciding the setting. 00:09:19.239 --> 00:09:20.980 And the reason why, like I mentioned, 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:23.261 Swamp Thing, that was one of my biggest. 00:09:24.101 --> 00:09:25.202 Yeah, I love New Orleans. 00:09:25.283 --> 00:09:25.923 I've never been there, 00:09:25.964 --> 00:09:28.345 but it's such an interesting place. 00:09:28.404 --> 00:09:28.946 When you can. 00:09:28.966 --> 00:09:29.046 Yeah. 00:09:29.928 --> 00:09:31.169 make it make your way down there. 00:09:31.289 --> 00:09:33.870 It is absolutely beautiful. 00:09:34.270 --> 00:09:38.032 Like I would say the fall timeframe when 00:09:38.052 --> 00:09:39.513 the leaves start falling down there. 00:09:41.114 --> 00:09:42.874 And then do the the carriage ride at 00:09:42.953 --> 00:09:43.294 night. 00:09:44.815 --> 00:09:45.335 Amazing. 00:09:45.936 --> 00:09:47.875 Especially if you like the macabre and 00:09:47.916 --> 00:09:49.596 like the ghost story type stuff. 00:09:50.376 --> 00:09:51.498 So really fun trip. 00:09:52.421 --> 00:09:53.241 Yeah, I'd love to go. 00:09:53.261 --> 00:09:53.442 I mean, 00:09:53.802 --> 00:09:55.442 I used to be like a cross-border truck 00:09:55.482 --> 00:09:55.842 driver. 00:09:55.863 --> 00:09:58.284 So I've seen almost every state. 00:09:58.605 --> 00:09:59.985 I've just been to Florida recently, 00:10:00.385 --> 00:10:01.506 which is where my wife is from. 00:10:01.527 --> 00:10:02.128 Okay. 00:10:02.288 --> 00:10:04.149 But yeah, 00:10:04.229 --> 00:10:05.850 New Orleans is definitely on the bucket 00:10:05.870 --> 00:10:06.129 list. 00:10:06.730 --> 00:10:09.432 And I figured it'd be good for 00:10:09.472 --> 00:10:10.653 inspiration, you know, 00:10:10.673 --> 00:10:11.854 to see things up close. 00:10:12.615 --> 00:10:13.695 That way I can add it into the 00:10:13.715 --> 00:10:14.096 comic. 00:10:15.015 --> 00:10:16.898 But in terms of why I chose it, 00:10:18.739 --> 00:10:20.000 I thought there's so much you can do 00:10:20.019 --> 00:10:20.340 with it. 00:10:21.278 --> 00:10:23.078 know it's almost like the environment is 00:10:23.139 --> 00:10:26.120 actually like a character itself it is it 00:10:26.140 --> 00:10:29.962 can set the mood um it can change 00:10:30.023 --> 00:10:32.724 everything like it's this is a very 00:10:32.844 --> 00:10:34.125 interesting place you know it's almost 00:10:34.144 --> 00:10:37.506 like magical especially that swamp setting 00:10:37.567 --> 00:10:39.187 it's like very isolated it's like 00:10:39.246 --> 00:10:42.328 primordial uh so yeah that was the reason 00:10:42.349 --> 00:10:46.191 why i chose new orleans and the reason 00:10:46.471 --> 00:10:48.552 i went with is because well initially i 00:10:48.572 --> 00:10:48.932 wanted to do 00:10:51.168 --> 00:10:52.931 And that was where I was going with 00:10:52.990 --> 00:10:53.071 it. 00:10:53.110 --> 00:10:54.871 But it felt so far into the future 00:10:54.892 --> 00:10:55.993 that it was not relatable. 00:10:56.832 --> 00:10:59.455 Yeah, no, I get that too, yeah. 00:10:59.514 --> 00:11:00.836 Either one of those could have worked. 00:11:01.035 --> 00:11:01.836 You know what I'm saying? 00:11:03.038 --> 00:11:04.619 I mean, if you went far enough out, 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:06.080 because we don't really know, 00:11:06.220 --> 00:11:09.442 but twenty thirty is like this nice five 00:11:09.461 --> 00:11:10.523 years down the road. 00:11:11.543 --> 00:11:14.625 We kind of can see where the world 00:11:14.686 --> 00:11:15.326 is going. 00:11:16.326 --> 00:11:18.649 And, you know, it almost to be 00:11:19.522 --> 00:11:22.043 When you sent it over and I read 00:11:22.082 --> 00:11:23.964 it initially, I was like, damn, 00:11:23.984 --> 00:11:26.365 this is twenty twenty one all over again. 00:11:26.845 --> 00:11:29.046 Yeah, that was part of the inspiration. 00:11:29.346 --> 00:11:29.586 I mean, 00:11:30.745 --> 00:11:32.586 how quickly things can change and how. 00:11:33.726 --> 00:11:35.488 People can change so quickly, it's like. 00:11:36.788 --> 00:11:37.708 You might think, you know, 00:11:37.788 --> 00:11:39.309 somebody and then when things get real, 00:11:39.370 --> 00:11:40.830 it's like their whole attitude, 00:11:40.850 --> 00:11:42.410 the whole persona, everything changes. 00:11:42.431 --> 00:11:43.951 So no, absolutely. 00:11:44.672 --> 00:11:46.331 That was one aspect about like human 00:11:46.371 --> 00:11:48.273 psychology I want to add into the story. 00:11:49.717 --> 00:11:52.099 which I know you haven't seen the complete 00:11:52.158 --> 00:11:52.958 version yet. 00:11:53.019 --> 00:11:54.859 You only got the sample version. 00:11:54.999 --> 00:11:55.099 Yeah, 00:11:55.219 --> 00:11:56.700 I think it's the first twelve pages or 00:11:56.740 --> 00:11:57.440 something like that. 00:11:57.779 --> 00:12:00.461 And it's really, really, really nice. 00:12:00.500 --> 00:12:02.500 Like the art is fantastic. 00:12:02.841 --> 00:12:04.022 I don't know who's doing your art on 00:12:04.101 --> 00:12:06.981 it, but they are doing a fantastic job. 00:12:07.042 --> 00:12:07.922 It looks really good. 00:12:08.602 --> 00:12:09.643 And my boy Kelvin here, 00:12:09.702 --> 00:12:11.123 he's he's a New Orleans guy, too. 00:12:11.143 --> 00:12:11.982 He's from down there. 00:12:12.403 --> 00:12:13.783 He's from Louisiana. 00:12:13.803 --> 00:12:14.004 So 00:12:16.022 --> 00:12:16.842 Shout out to Kelvin. 00:12:17.823 --> 00:12:18.705 Speaking of shout outs, 00:12:18.725 --> 00:12:21.506 I want to say a quick shout out 00:12:21.547 --> 00:12:24.048 to Duke Electric, a fellow Canadian. 00:12:24.109 --> 00:12:25.549 That's my fella right there. 00:12:25.711 --> 00:12:27.192 I love some Duke Electric, man. 00:12:27.251 --> 00:12:28.913 He's such a fun character. 00:12:28.952 --> 00:12:30.674 He is a character. 00:12:31.995 --> 00:12:33.537 He's got the pink suit. 00:12:33.557 --> 00:12:35.538 He's got the new comic Greg coming out, 00:12:35.558 --> 00:12:36.740 which seems like a wild ride. 00:12:36.820 --> 00:12:38.741 Dude, I've read Greg. 00:12:39.322 --> 00:12:39.942 I own Greg. 00:12:41.096 --> 00:12:43.097 Greg is a fantastic read. 00:12:43.217 --> 00:12:44.859 It's a fantastic ride. 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:47.120 To be fair, 00:12:48.160 --> 00:12:49.881 what I've got to read of The Plague, 00:12:50.542 --> 00:12:52.183 that is going to be a fantastic ride 00:12:52.224 --> 00:12:54.524 as well because it cuts off right when 00:12:54.585 --> 00:12:57.106 I know it was about to get really 00:12:57.167 --> 00:12:57.947 freaking good. 00:12:59.989 --> 00:13:01.549 I'm not even mad because I got to 00:13:01.570 --> 00:13:02.610 see the first twelve pages. 00:13:02.649 --> 00:13:04.071 Nobody else has got to do that except 00:13:04.091 --> 00:13:05.091 for maybe Nicole here. 00:13:07.413 --> 00:13:07.894 I was like, 00:13:09.342 --> 00:13:10.842 I'm like, well, 00:13:10.923 --> 00:13:11.682 I thought I was going to get to 00:13:11.702 --> 00:13:13.384 scroll down one more and see what was 00:13:13.403 --> 00:13:13.943 about to happen. 00:13:13.964 --> 00:13:15.203 I was like, that's it. 00:13:15.423 --> 00:13:17.323 I'm like, I'm not even mad, but damn, 00:13:17.344 --> 00:13:17.985 I want more. 00:13:19.965 --> 00:13:21.465 So I'm not going to lie to anybody. 00:13:21.924 --> 00:13:24.046 If you're on the fence about backing this 00:13:24.086 --> 00:13:25.686 comic book, don't be. 00:13:26.525 --> 00:13:27.885 The art's fantastic. 00:13:27.905 --> 00:13:29.046 The story is great. 00:13:29.086 --> 00:13:33.226 It feels like you're in a very bad, 00:13:33.267 --> 00:13:34.226 in the beginning of it. 00:13:35.008 --> 00:13:36.827 And then you get to this beautiful, 00:13:38.086 --> 00:13:44.812 swamp of New Orleans and it dude it 00:13:44.892 --> 00:13:49.436 I love it I really do um so 00:13:50.316 --> 00:13:52.238 tell us how the plague himself evolves 00:13:52.278 --> 00:13:56.019 from concept to like this cursed Avenger 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.001 that we're going to get I know he 00:13:58.022 --> 00:14:01.625 was a security guard and then I know 00:14:01.644 --> 00:14:02.745 at some point he's going to become the 00:14:02.764 --> 00:14:06.048 plague yeah so Diego 00:14:06.966 --> 00:14:08.067 Diaz is his real name. 00:14:08.486 --> 00:14:10.827 And in my mind, he's a well-meaning, 00:14:10.947 --> 00:14:11.567 simple guy. 00:14:12.248 --> 00:14:13.609 I'm just trying to make his way in 00:14:13.629 --> 00:14:14.448 the world. 00:14:15.190 --> 00:14:17.650 But he's caught up in some nefarious 00:14:17.691 --> 00:14:18.051 things. 00:14:19.230 --> 00:14:22.133 And he kind of turns a blind eye 00:14:22.192 --> 00:14:23.033 to it. 00:14:23.133 --> 00:14:23.613 And in the end, 00:14:23.653 --> 00:14:24.573 he's going to pay for it. 00:14:25.774 --> 00:14:28.535 And there's supernatural elements, 00:14:28.576 --> 00:14:30.696 but I'm keeping them kind of... No, 00:14:30.735 --> 00:14:31.976 please keep them secret until the book 00:14:31.996 --> 00:14:32.177 comes out. 00:14:32.197 --> 00:14:33.418 Yeah, I'm keeping them kind of secret. 00:14:34.097 --> 00:14:35.317 In fact, in the comic, 00:14:35.339 --> 00:14:35.999 there's going to be little... 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:39.221 of easter eggs where you know you don't 00:14:39.280 --> 00:14:41.582 see it right up front but when that 00:14:41.643 --> 00:14:43.423 moment where he becomes the plague finally 00:14:43.464 --> 00:14:45.465 does happen yeah you're going to be able 00:14:45.485 --> 00:14:46.664 to see that oh this was kind of 00:14:46.684 --> 00:14:49.287 there in the background the whole time see 00:14:50.366 --> 00:14:53.109 i always tell people i read i don't 00:14:53.129 --> 00:14:55.590 just read a comic book i study the 00:14:55.610 --> 00:14:58.491 comic book so as i'm reading it it 00:14:58.511 --> 00:15:00.253 will take me five to ten minutes to 00:15:00.273 --> 00:15:02.173 read a page even though there's only 00:15:02.193 --> 00:15:03.774 twenty words on the page because i'm 00:15:03.815 --> 00:15:05.375 looking at the art and i'm looking for 00:15:05.394 --> 00:15:06.255 those easter eggs 00:15:07.461 --> 00:15:09.500 and i'm telling y'all more more comic 00:15:09.541 --> 00:15:11.241 books have easter eggs than you realize 00:15:11.701 --> 00:15:13.642 and they are always fun when you find 00:15:13.662 --> 00:15:16.062 them so that's really cool you just 00:15:16.082 --> 00:15:17.383 straight up like hey there's going to be 00:15:17.462 --> 00:15:19.143 easter eggs that give you hints along the 00:15:19.163 --> 00:15:21.503 way i like that a lot i think 00:15:21.543 --> 00:15:23.323 that is one of the most underutilized 00:15:23.364 --> 00:15:25.124 thing in comic books is those little 00:15:25.303 --> 00:15:26.943 subtle easter eggs so yeah totally agree 00:15:26.964 --> 00:15:31.725 yeah sometimes you can't pick up on on 00:15:31.745 --> 00:15:33.926 it until you like learn more like maybe 00:15:33.966 --> 00:15:35.446 a few issues in you're like oh wait 00:15:35.466 --> 00:15:35.625 a second 00:15:36.186 --> 00:15:38.927 You know what I mean? 00:15:38.966 --> 00:15:39.846 Then you'll be able to connect the dots, 00:15:39.866 --> 00:15:40.148 you know? 00:15:40.168 --> 00:15:41.807 Yeah, no, that's very true. 00:15:41.947 --> 00:15:44.869 And I think like Tinian, 00:15:45.350 --> 00:15:48.370 James Tinian does a really good job at 00:15:48.490 --> 00:15:50.091 doing that where you have to go pick 00:15:50.130 --> 00:15:53.232 up like three issues prior and pick it 00:15:53.273 --> 00:15:55.994 back up and go, it was right there. 00:15:58.409 --> 00:16:00.511 That's a little subtle art of storytelling 00:16:00.532 --> 00:16:03.774 that can be phenomenal to be used. 00:16:04.455 --> 00:16:05.635 And I'm glad you're using that. 00:16:06.496 --> 00:16:06.616 Yeah, 00:16:06.636 --> 00:16:08.217 I like when things always come like full 00:16:08.278 --> 00:16:09.438 circle. 00:16:09.458 --> 00:16:11.201 That's why with the play, 00:16:11.301 --> 00:16:13.482 I'm actually kind of writing the whole 00:16:13.523 --> 00:16:15.024 story in its entirety first. 00:16:15.725 --> 00:16:17.025 So I've got like an overview of about 00:16:17.066 --> 00:16:17.907 a hundred issues. 00:16:19.607 --> 00:16:20.708 And that way when it's done, 00:16:20.769 --> 00:16:22.630 I can kind of look at... 00:16:23.916 --> 00:16:25.996 the story in totality and know where it's 00:16:26.017 --> 00:16:27.817 going and where to add those Easter eggs. 00:16:27.898 --> 00:16:29.538 And that way it's consistent, too. 00:16:29.558 --> 00:16:30.698 Because if you try to make something later 00:16:30.719 --> 00:16:30.759 on, 00:16:30.779 --> 00:16:34.280 then you might look back and- Contradict 00:16:34.301 --> 00:16:34.461 yourself. 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:34.881 Yeah, exactly. 00:16:34.902 --> 00:16:36.221 And it's like, oh, 00:16:36.241 --> 00:16:37.543 I thought he was the only one or 00:16:37.562 --> 00:16:37.783 whatever. 00:16:37.903 --> 00:16:39.663 You know what I mean? 00:16:39.864 --> 00:16:40.364 Honestly, 00:16:40.403 --> 00:16:43.306 that's a really good way to do this. 00:16:43.365 --> 00:16:46.346 It's just to have the entire thing laid 00:16:46.488 --> 00:16:46.648 out. 00:16:47.168 --> 00:16:49.609 And then as you're building an issue for 00:16:49.649 --> 00:16:51.309 the next Kickstarter or whatnot, 00:16:51.990 --> 00:16:52.510 it's like, OK, 00:16:53.785 --> 00:16:54.907 This part, I like this. 00:16:54.927 --> 00:16:55.667 I like this. 00:16:56.587 --> 00:16:57.808 I'm not a big fan of that part, 00:16:57.869 --> 00:16:59.250 so let me make that part. 00:16:59.269 --> 00:17:00.169 I'm going to take that out, 00:17:00.210 --> 00:17:01.530 and then we're going to do this part, 00:17:01.571 --> 00:17:02.532 this part, and this part. 00:17:03.032 --> 00:17:03.832 I like that concept, 00:17:03.873 --> 00:17:05.594 and I like that you're doing that. 00:17:05.794 --> 00:17:09.276 That will put together a fantastic run for 00:17:09.296 --> 00:17:11.758 you, hopefully, here very soon, 00:17:11.778 --> 00:17:14.059 because I know we're getting ready to kick 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:15.740 it off here really soon. 00:17:15.760 --> 00:17:15.840 Yeah. 00:17:15.861 --> 00:17:16.181 I mean, 00:17:17.882 --> 00:17:19.103 I'm talking about a hundred issues, 00:17:19.123 --> 00:17:20.743 and we're not even on the first issue 00:17:20.763 --> 00:17:23.526 yet, but I'm just so excited for it. 00:17:24.258 --> 00:17:25.258 There you go. 00:17:25.597 --> 00:17:27.939 I love the enthusiasm of it, man. 00:17:27.979 --> 00:17:29.038 That's killer. 00:17:29.078 --> 00:17:30.579 I love to see that enthusiasm. 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:33.619 And even my boy Kelvin here is well 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:34.601 thought out and planned. 00:17:34.621 --> 00:17:35.901 This has me excited to see what you 00:17:35.941 --> 00:17:36.181 did. 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:38.102 And I've got to see half. 00:17:38.362 --> 00:17:39.162 And I'm telling you, 00:17:39.801 --> 00:17:41.982 I'm very impressed with the half that I've 00:17:42.022 --> 00:17:44.163 gotten to see. 00:17:45.482 --> 00:17:45.804 No. 00:17:46.683 --> 00:17:50.944 So we're describing his power as... 00:17:52.280 --> 00:17:55.201 cursed like what all does that curse kind 00:17:55.241 --> 00:17:57.462 of entail and how is that affecting him 00:17:58.042 --> 00:18:00.963 physically and mentally i know i mean we 00:18:00.983 --> 00:18:02.624 can look at the character himself we know 00:18:02.644 --> 00:18:05.484 it affected him physically and that in 00:18:05.545 --> 00:18:08.226 itself would have a mental toll on him 00:18:08.846 --> 00:18:10.426 but it kind of give us a little 00:18:10.446 --> 00:18:12.747 background on what this curse is and what 00:18:12.787 --> 00:18:16.347 it means to our you know our main 00:18:16.367 --> 00:18:20.049 character here well when diego finally 00:18:20.089 --> 00:18:21.430 goes through that transformation 00:18:23.387 --> 00:18:24.489 the power that he's getting, 00:18:24.729 --> 00:18:26.148 it's not coming from a good place. 00:18:27.189 --> 00:18:31.589 So it's kind of like he's making a 00:18:31.630 --> 00:18:32.190 trade off. 00:18:33.109 --> 00:18:36.371 He's kind of paying a price for taking 00:18:36.411 --> 00:18:37.010 on this power. 00:18:37.932 --> 00:18:39.711 And that actually hearkens back to the 00:18:39.771 --> 00:18:41.251 name of the brand, 00:18:41.271 --> 00:18:42.573 which is Lucky Devil Comics. 00:18:44.732 --> 00:18:46.032 Because originally I was gonna call the 00:18:46.073 --> 00:18:48.473 company Devil's Luck Comics. 00:18:49.752 --> 00:18:50.593 It's kind of ominous. 00:18:51.094 --> 00:18:53.555 I like it both ways that both of 00:18:53.575 --> 00:18:54.335 them would have been cool. 00:18:54.355 --> 00:18:54.434 Yeah. 00:18:55.214 --> 00:18:57.135 It's, it's kind of like a warning, right? 00:18:57.737 --> 00:18:57.997 I mean, 00:18:58.196 --> 00:18:59.617 you gotta be careful what you wish for 00:19:00.758 --> 00:19:01.597 with the devil's luck. 00:19:01.637 --> 00:19:03.838 It's like, um, 00:19:03.858 --> 00:19:05.099 you might get what you want, 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:06.099 but it's coming out of price. 00:19:06.161 --> 00:19:07.000 Like for instance, 00:19:07.060 --> 00:19:08.821 let's say you wish for a million dollars. 00:19:10.182 --> 00:19:11.502 One day you might wake up and realize 00:19:11.522 --> 00:19:12.482 you have a million dollars, 00:19:12.542 --> 00:19:14.723 but it's because somebody loved died and 00:19:14.763 --> 00:19:16.484 left you the insurance money or something 00:19:16.644 --> 00:19:16.984 terrible. 00:19:17.005 --> 00:19:17.346 No, no. 00:19:18.932 --> 00:19:19.313 I like it. 00:19:19.413 --> 00:19:22.276 So the idea is there's always a price 00:19:22.296 --> 00:19:23.276 to be paid and you have to be 00:19:23.316 --> 00:19:27.599 careful with what you wish for. 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:30.582 I like it a lot. 00:19:30.682 --> 00:19:31.403 I always like... 00:19:32.443 --> 00:19:35.125 It's like the evil genies that you read 00:19:35.165 --> 00:19:36.066 stories about. 00:19:36.666 --> 00:19:37.867 You're getting your three wishes, 00:19:37.928 --> 00:19:39.528 but all three of those wishes are going 00:19:39.548 --> 00:19:43.471 to have a twist to them. 00:19:43.491 --> 00:19:45.634 I always enjoy stories like that because 00:19:46.595 --> 00:19:48.175 it just makes for good storytelling. 00:19:52.843 --> 00:19:55.003 So the story kind of promises a war 00:19:55.064 --> 00:19:56.964 on both earthly corruption and hell 00:19:57.105 --> 00:19:57.664 itself. 00:19:57.704 --> 00:20:00.905 How do those two forces intertwine within 00:20:00.945 --> 00:20:01.566 the plague? 00:20:02.487 --> 00:20:03.547 I know I'm getting into a little bit 00:20:03.586 --> 00:20:05.387 more of the psychology portion of the 00:20:05.407 --> 00:20:05.728 book, 00:20:06.367 --> 00:20:07.969 but give us a little background on that. 00:20:09.308 --> 00:20:11.490 Yeah, so with Diego Diaz, 00:20:11.529 --> 00:20:12.430 the world he's living in, 00:20:13.391 --> 00:20:15.070 he's kind of like in between two worlds. 00:20:15.791 --> 00:20:16.872 And he comes from one world, 00:20:16.912 --> 00:20:19.573 which is that dystopian kind of bleak 00:20:20.945 --> 00:20:25.548 future and He kind of gets entangled in 00:20:25.689 --> 00:20:27.970 a conspiracy Yeah, 00:20:28.049 --> 00:20:30.151 and you find later on that conspiracy is 00:20:30.191 --> 00:20:32.392 not just dealing with like worldly powers 00:20:33.113 --> 00:20:35.094 The deeper down the rabbit hole he goes 00:20:35.594 --> 00:20:36.775 the more he's gonna realize that it's 00:20:36.815 --> 00:20:39.256 connected to something a lot more dark and 00:20:39.316 --> 00:20:41.676 sinister and there's all these isolated 00:20:41.696 --> 00:20:43.478 events happening that he's trying to you 00:20:43.498 --> 00:20:45.278 know fight with and 00:20:46.461 --> 00:20:47.742 but they're not isolated at all. 00:20:48.063 --> 00:20:49.284 He's going to find that it's all kind 00:20:49.304 --> 00:20:51.405 of interconnected to something a lot 00:20:51.445 --> 00:20:51.726 bigger. 00:20:53.928 --> 00:20:54.407 I like it. 00:20:54.488 --> 00:20:57.250 I like deep storytelling like that, 00:20:57.329 --> 00:21:00.491 where the Alice in Wonderland theory, 00:21:00.531 --> 00:21:00.752 right? 00:21:00.772 --> 00:21:02.173 The deeper you go, the rabbit hole, 00:21:02.213 --> 00:21:03.535 the crazier it gets. 00:21:04.255 --> 00:21:04.836 I like that. 00:21:04.955 --> 00:21:05.776 I like that a lot. 00:21:06.396 --> 00:21:06.596 Um, 00:21:11.396 --> 00:21:15.097 So is this a revenge story or something 00:21:15.218 --> 00:21:15.719 deeper? 00:21:16.199 --> 00:21:18.700 Maybe we're gonna get some redemption 00:21:18.900 --> 00:21:20.680 wrapped up in damnation with it. 00:21:22.201 --> 00:21:23.441 Yeah, to me, 00:21:23.461 --> 00:21:25.541 that's the whole idea of the plague is 00:21:26.382 --> 00:21:27.163 on the surface, 00:21:28.323 --> 00:21:30.743 it seems like a very spawn type of 00:21:30.784 --> 00:21:34.545 story of revenge, all these dark forces, 00:21:35.405 --> 00:21:36.465 but those are just layers 00:21:37.449 --> 00:21:38.829 on top of what's really going on, 00:21:38.869 --> 00:21:41.271 which is about Diego's faith. 00:21:42.913 --> 00:21:43.373 As a man, 00:21:43.814 --> 00:21:45.595 he's a good man that has faith. 00:21:45.775 --> 00:21:47.036 And after it becomes a plague, 00:21:47.355 --> 00:21:48.977 his psyche and his faith is kind of 00:21:48.997 --> 00:21:49.617 just shattered. 00:21:50.719 --> 00:21:53.320 And his whole kind of adventure or journey 00:21:53.340 --> 00:21:54.682 is about him reconnecting with his 00:21:54.721 --> 00:21:55.842 humanity and his faith. 00:21:56.363 --> 00:21:58.263 So it starts off as kind of like 00:21:58.324 --> 00:21:59.244 a revenge story. 00:22:00.527 --> 00:22:02.327 again the more he battles these forces the 00:22:02.367 --> 00:22:04.127 more he realizes everything is kind of 00:22:04.167 --> 00:22:05.949 connected and he can't just fight for 00:22:05.969 --> 00:22:10.250 himself or revenge oh dude i like that 00:22:10.351 --> 00:22:12.832 deepness to it i like it so kelvin 00:22:12.872 --> 00:22:16.593 again he said it has a spawn meets 00:22:16.633 --> 00:22:18.814 skeletor vibe and i can see that too 00:22:18.874 --> 00:22:20.315 i like that that's a good way to 00:22:20.335 --> 00:22:20.535 put it 00:22:22.002 --> 00:22:22.303 Yeah, 00:22:22.343 --> 00:22:23.703 those are two characters with awesome 00:22:23.723 --> 00:22:24.183 designs. 00:22:24.804 --> 00:22:26.105 Dude, yeah. 00:22:27.326 --> 00:22:29.467 Nothing as classic as Skeletor when it 00:22:29.507 --> 00:22:30.567 comes to a villain. 00:22:34.048 --> 00:22:37.111 So what kind of message or emotion are 00:22:37.151 --> 00:22:40.011 you trying to channel through the Pledge 00:22:40.051 --> 00:22:41.573 Crusade with this one? 00:22:42.933 --> 00:22:44.153 I think you kind of hinted on it 00:22:44.173 --> 00:22:47.016 a little bit, but... Yeah, 00:22:47.135 --> 00:22:48.536 there's a lot of themes going on. 00:22:48.635 --> 00:22:48.797 I mean, 00:22:48.817 --> 00:22:50.257 there's a lot of things I want to 00:22:50.297 --> 00:22:51.178 say through the story. 00:22:52.185 --> 00:22:53.886 personal views that i have no no if 00:22:53.946 --> 00:22:55.126 you feel like you're going to give too 00:22:55.146 --> 00:22:57.688 much away just like hey let's let's save 00:22:57.708 --> 00:22:59.108 that part for the comic book and i'm 00:22:59.148 --> 00:23:01.150 perfectly cool with that because honestly 00:23:01.170 --> 00:23:02.250 at the end of the day we're here 00:23:02.269 --> 00:23:04.651 to sell the plague to people and i 00:23:04.671 --> 00:23:06.131 don't want you to give away too much 00:23:06.330 --> 00:23:09.292 so yeah for sure but um in terms 00:23:09.313 --> 00:23:11.353 of like themes or like messages that i'm 00:23:11.373 --> 00:23:14.335 trying to get across um diego's uh he's 00:23:14.375 --> 00:23:15.434 a complicated character 00:23:17.113 --> 00:23:19.233 But all that complexity actually stems 00:23:19.273 --> 00:23:21.594 from him being a simple person. 00:23:22.153 --> 00:23:24.194 He's a simple man in this overcomplicated 00:23:24.234 --> 00:23:25.775 world and there's all these things going 00:23:25.855 --> 00:23:30.296 on and there's all these reasons to kind 00:23:30.336 --> 00:23:31.356 of challenge his faith. 00:23:32.576 --> 00:23:33.477 But in the end, 00:23:33.497 --> 00:23:34.317 that's what it's all about. 00:23:34.377 --> 00:23:35.938 It's about him going back to his faith 00:23:35.998 --> 00:23:37.478 and having something to believe in. 00:23:38.459 --> 00:23:39.038 I like that. 00:23:39.858 --> 00:23:39.959 So... 00:23:44.598 --> 00:23:46.840 How do you think the plague sees himself 00:23:46.901 --> 00:23:50.563 as a savior or as a weapon that 00:23:50.623 --> 00:23:54.684 is a instrument to being a savior? 00:23:56.526 --> 00:23:57.146 Yeah, well, 00:23:57.307 --> 00:23:58.508 that's going to be part of his journey 00:23:58.688 --> 00:24:01.449 is when he first becomes the plague, 00:24:01.469 --> 00:24:03.611 he doesn't necessarily know what he is or 00:24:03.830 --> 00:24:04.770 how he became that. 00:24:05.892 --> 00:24:06.833 He has a general idea, 00:24:06.853 --> 00:24:08.834 but he doesn't know what's really going 00:24:08.933 --> 00:24:09.094 on. 00:24:09.114 --> 00:24:10.734 And so... 00:24:12.458 --> 00:24:12.597 Yeah. 00:24:12.617 --> 00:24:12.817 I mean, 00:24:12.837 --> 00:24:14.019 I don't want to give too much away, 00:24:14.099 --> 00:24:14.299 but. 00:24:14.420 --> 00:24:19.525 That's perfectly fine. 00:24:19.565 --> 00:24:21.125 No, that's an acceptable answer, man. 00:24:22.067 --> 00:24:23.127 Like I said, I don't like that. 00:24:23.167 --> 00:24:25.089 I'm fleshing out for myself as well. 00:24:25.170 --> 00:24:25.651 Cause like I said, 00:24:25.671 --> 00:24:28.252 this is the first issue I've got a 00:24:28.292 --> 00:24:28.814 lot written, 00:24:28.894 --> 00:24:30.775 but I'm toying with a lot of different 00:24:30.815 --> 00:24:31.715 themes and ideas. 00:24:33.298 --> 00:24:34.778 Dude, that's perfectly fine, man. 00:24:34.979 --> 00:24:36.580 I like to hear that, you know, 00:24:37.772 --> 00:24:38.913 We're hearing it firsthand that the 00:24:38.952 --> 00:24:40.314 character and everything is still 00:24:40.374 --> 00:24:40.933 evolving. 00:24:41.554 --> 00:24:42.153 And yes, 00:24:42.273 --> 00:24:43.755 I've gotten to read the first twelve 00:24:43.775 --> 00:24:44.115 pages. 00:24:44.154 --> 00:24:46.635 And even that may still evolve more as 00:24:46.675 --> 00:24:48.896 you probably go back to edits or redraws 00:24:48.936 --> 00:24:49.797 or something like that. 00:24:50.297 --> 00:24:52.557 So, dude, that's cool by me, man. 00:24:54.102 --> 00:24:54.501 Like I said, 00:24:54.642 --> 00:24:57.564 I enjoyed what you sent over tremendously, 00:24:58.344 --> 00:25:01.305 and I've enjoyed seeing all the support 00:25:01.986 --> 00:25:05.406 that you have gotten for this comic book 00:25:05.446 --> 00:25:05.866 so far. 00:25:05.886 --> 00:25:06.248 To me, 00:25:06.288 --> 00:25:08.788 that's telling on behalf of what you've 00:25:08.848 --> 00:25:11.450 created here and your friends and family 00:25:11.609 --> 00:25:13.931 and those who are excited for the comic 00:25:13.951 --> 00:25:14.550 book as well. 00:25:15.071 --> 00:25:15.571 Yeah, 00:25:17.472 --> 00:25:21.013 I can't believe how much bigger this has 00:25:21.054 --> 00:25:22.095 become than I thought it would be. 00:25:22.941 --> 00:25:23.141 I mean, 00:25:23.181 --> 00:25:26.722 there was a moment where before I launched 00:25:26.762 --> 00:25:28.222 or before I even started on Instagram, 00:25:28.242 --> 00:25:29.604 I was kind of looking at it, 00:25:30.104 --> 00:25:31.384 ready to hit the button and thinking, 00:25:31.424 --> 00:25:32.305 am I really doing this? 00:25:33.385 --> 00:25:35.086 I'm really putting myself out there to be 00:25:35.366 --> 00:25:38.147 judged or people could hate this or people 00:25:38.167 --> 00:25:39.429 could not give two shits about it. 00:25:40.169 --> 00:25:40.648 Yeah, no, 00:25:40.749 --> 00:25:42.210 I think it's been the exact opposite of 00:25:42.230 --> 00:25:42.529 that. 00:25:42.990 --> 00:25:44.351 Yeah, it's been amazing. 00:25:46.104 --> 00:25:46.864 And like I said, 00:25:47.164 --> 00:25:51.426 it's been an outpour of support. 00:25:51.487 --> 00:25:53.728 Every time I post something from you or 00:25:53.807 --> 00:25:55.368 I reblog it, like, hey, don't forget, 00:25:55.409 --> 00:25:56.930 tonight at seven o'clock, we're going in, 00:25:56.990 --> 00:25:58.971 and people are like, yeah! 00:26:00.192 --> 00:26:02.873 Which immediately hypes me up because I'm 00:26:02.913 --> 00:26:03.553 like, damn, 00:26:03.692 --> 00:26:05.775 I like the support he's got for this 00:26:05.855 --> 00:26:06.055 book, 00:26:06.095 --> 00:26:08.996 and you haven't even started the 00:26:09.016 --> 00:26:09.916 Kickstarter yet. 00:26:10.537 --> 00:26:11.637 So I enjoy... 00:26:12.967 --> 00:26:14.867 really seeing that and yeah the story is 00:26:14.928 --> 00:26:17.788 deep it's intriguing and probably what the 00:26:18.128 --> 00:26:20.930 fourth person who's really seen the comic 00:26:20.970 --> 00:26:24.931 book from a in work in progress i 00:26:24.951 --> 00:26:26.991 will a hundred percent say yes the story 00:26:27.011 --> 00:26:30.752 is very deep it is very intriguing and 00:26:30.854 --> 00:26:33.374 it's very relatable to the current times 00:26:33.394 --> 00:26:36.915 that we live in which is really cool 00:26:36.955 --> 00:26:37.195 to me 00:26:38.343 --> 00:26:41.025 You can take that real world and then 00:26:41.105 --> 00:26:42.905 spin it into this fictional world that 00:26:42.925 --> 00:26:44.826 you've created for the plague. 00:26:45.126 --> 00:26:45.587 Exactly. 00:26:46.367 --> 00:26:48.088 That was one of the main things that 00:26:48.148 --> 00:26:49.871 I wanted to do was create something that 00:26:49.911 --> 00:26:53.313 was on one hand kind of timeless where 00:26:53.333 --> 00:26:55.693 you could go back like thirty years from 00:26:55.733 --> 00:26:55.933 now, 00:26:56.013 --> 00:26:57.695 read the story and it still means 00:26:57.736 --> 00:26:58.096 something. 00:26:58.256 --> 00:27:00.497 Still resonates because it really does. 00:27:00.938 --> 00:27:01.417 Like I said, 00:27:01.498 --> 00:27:04.279 when I read those first two or three 00:27:04.299 --> 00:27:06.080 pages, I was like, shit, 00:27:06.121 --> 00:27:07.521 this is twenty twenty one. 00:27:09.416 --> 00:27:11.199 And we're all masked up. 00:27:11.259 --> 00:27:13.461 We're all six feet away from each other. 00:27:13.601 --> 00:27:15.383 And I was like, holy hell. 00:27:15.403 --> 00:27:15.482 Yeah. 00:27:18.164 --> 00:27:18.385 Sorry. 00:27:18.405 --> 00:27:19.987 My husband is also like a big Resident 00:27:20.086 --> 00:27:20.667 Evil fan as well. 00:27:20.688 --> 00:27:22.288 So I also get this Resident Evil vibe, 00:27:22.308 --> 00:27:23.230 you know, like, you know, evil. 00:27:26.554 --> 00:27:28.756 No, no. 00:27:28.816 --> 00:27:29.536 No, I like that. 00:27:29.576 --> 00:27:30.857 Yeah, you're absolutely right. 00:27:32.344 --> 00:27:33.865 And I think we're all hyped up for 00:27:33.884 --> 00:27:35.625 some new Resident Evil here pretty soon. 00:27:37.287 --> 00:27:40.548 Yeah, I think we're on Resident Evil nine. 00:27:40.567 --> 00:27:41.749 I think it's going to be nine. 00:27:41.848 --> 00:27:43.849 Yeah. 00:27:43.890 --> 00:27:45.971 So the art and the tone of this 00:27:46.030 --> 00:27:48.332 book is striking, man. 00:27:48.392 --> 00:27:51.753 It's like even the city itself is like. 00:27:53.709 --> 00:27:56.351 gritty and it's kind of get this like 00:27:56.411 --> 00:27:57.271 it's in this new Orleans. 00:27:57.311 --> 00:28:00.174 So you got that like Neo nor type 00:28:00.275 --> 00:28:01.236 of feel to it. 00:28:02.036 --> 00:28:05.740 And so walk us through the visual identity 00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:07.121 of the plague. 00:28:08.863 --> 00:28:09.123 Yeah, 00:28:09.163 --> 00:28:11.184 so that's another reason why I chose New 00:28:11.204 --> 00:28:13.046 Orleans is because you could create such a 00:28:13.125 --> 00:28:16.608 contrast with what's going on at that 00:28:16.628 --> 00:28:17.148 point of time. 00:28:18.109 --> 00:28:19.490 I mean, it is dystopian. 00:28:19.550 --> 00:28:20.892 It is all these things. 00:28:20.912 --> 00:28:23.133 But New Orleans is such a colorful, 00:28:23.192 --> 00:28:24.914 vibrant, strange place. 00:28:25.035 --> 00:28:25.454 Oh, no. 00:28:25.535 --> 00:28:27.395 It still feels like it's a dystopian 00:28:27.435 --> 00:28:29.076 future or a dystopian past, 00:28:29.097 --> 00:28:30.077 however you want to look at it, 00:28:30.618 --> 00:28:31.759 no matter when you go down there. 00:28:34.621 --> 00:28:36.282 It's an amazing city. 00:28:37.616 --> 00:28:38.877 But honestly, 00:28:38.897 --> 00:28:40.219 you can walk from one side of it 00:28:40.239 --> 00:28:42.060 and it feels like, you know, 00:28:42.080 --> 00:28:44.063 this dystopian future where it's a ghost 00:28:44.103 --> 00:28:44.423 town. 00:28:44.903 --> 00:28:46.805 Then go to the very opposite end of 00:28:46.825 --> 00:28:48.987 the same street and it's this bustling 00:28:49.027 --> 00:28:49.767 metropolis. 00:28:50.468 --> 00:28:52.569 It's a really cool place to be in. 00:28:53.049 --> 00:28:53.830 Really cool to see. 00:28:53.851 --> 00:28:55.011 It's got, you know, 00:28:55.092 --> 00:28:57.032 parts that are just absolutely amazing. 00:28:57.733 --> 00:28:58.835 And then there's parts of it that are 00:28:58.855 --> 00:29:00.876 just like really depressing. 00:29:00.936 --> 00:29:04.038 So you nailed the vibe of that a 00:29:04.078 --> 00:29:04.880 hundred percent. 00:29:04.900 --> 00:29:05.461 So... 00:29:07.409 --> 00:29:09.388 So I know we spoke on this a 00:29:09.409 --> 00:29:10.329 little bit earlier. 00:29:10.829 --> 00:29:13.289 How did you approach the design of the 00:29:13.329 --> 00:29:15.369 plague himself, his armor, scars, 00:29:15.910 --> 00:29:19.830 this spawn, Skeletor-looking character? 00:29:20.611 --> 00:29:22.811 And I know we touched on it a 00:29:22.892 --> 00:29:23.271 little bit. 00:29:23.291 --> 00:29:24.991 You showed us what the original one looked 00:29:25.031 --> 00:29:25.332 like. 00:29:25.771 --> 00:29:28.913 But what was the approach? 00:29:29.252 --> 00:29:30.732 Did you work with the artist to do 00:29:30.792 --> 00:29:30.873 it, 00:29:30.932 --> 00:29:32.792 or did your wife help you come up 00:29:32.833 --> 00:29:33.513 with it? 00:29:33.554 --> 00:29:36.193 How was the original approach to that? 00:29:37.515 --> 00:29:39.955 well i came up with the designs that's 00:29:40.056 --> 00:29:41.395 one of my biggest hobbies is just 00:29:41.536 --> 00:29:43.736 designing characters in fact i got a 00:29:43.796 --> 00:29:47.237 binder right here which is about three 00:29:47.257 --> 00:29:49.057 hundred pages full of characters 00:29:49.778 --> 00:29:53.618 storyboards designs so storyboarding is so 00:29:53.659 --> 00:29:56.878 important in comic books it was a much 00:29:56.959 --> 00:29:58.140 bigger challenge than i thought it would 00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:01.079 be because initially i had written this 00:30:01.819 --> 00:30:03.961 massive like over bloated story 00:30:04.917 --> 00:30:07.461 not thinking about the fact that it has 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:09.865 to be formatted in comic, you know, 00:30:09.904 --> 00:30:10.345 format. 00:30:11.266 --> 00:30:12.708 And so the story, I mean, 00:30:12.728 --> 00:30:14.590 when it came time to storyboarding it, 00:30:14.711 --> 00:30:16.854 it came out to like almost a hundred 00:30:16.894 --> 00:30:18.455 pages. 00:30:18.516 --> 00:30:18.976 And I was like, 00:30:20.253 --> 00:30:21.933 That's five comic books right there, 00:30:21.973 --> 00:30:23.335 depending on how many pages you want to 00:30:23.355 --> 00:30:23.454 do. 00:30:23.474 --> 00:30:24.654 That's like four books. 00:30:25.154 --> 00:30:25.474 Yeah, 00:30:25.595 --> 00:30:27.115 and I didn't really want to do a 00:30:27.175 --> 00:30:29.336 graphic novel kind of approach. 00:30:29.395 --> 00:30:31.356 I wanted to do single issue. 00:30:32.176 --> 00:30:34.017 Because I'm a collector too, 00:30:34.076 --> 00:30:36.077 and that's part of the excitement is 00:30:36.597 --> 00:30:37.637 getting through a story, 00:30:37.718 --> 00:30:38.397 waiting for the next one. 00:30:38.438 --> 00:30:40.459 I'm a huge fan of floppies. 00:30:42.159 --> 00:30:44.339 The smell of them, the paper texture, 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:47.119 seeing who... 00:30:47.140 --> 00:30:48.540 This is what I love about image 00:30:49.541 --> 00:30:53.165 is they still use that top-notch cardstock 00:30:53.987 --> 00:30:54.606 covers. 00:30:55.448 --> 00:30:56.608 And then, I don't know, 00:30:56.769 --> 00:30:59.491 it's something about a single freshly 00:30:59.531 --> 00:31:01.034 printed comic book, 00:31:01.054 --> 00:31:02.815 the way it smells and feels in your 00:31:02.855 --> 00:31:03.375 hands. 00:31:06.578 --> 00:31:07.299 It's one of those... 00:31:08.968 --> 00:31:10.849 great things in life that we get to 00:31:10.930 --> 00:31:14.594 experience so no i'm the exact same way 00:31:14.814 --> 00:31:18.417 even for like things like cds music i 00:31:18.479 --> 00:31:20.221 used to love going and checking out 00:31:20.300 --> 00:31:21.922 different like cds you don't even know 00:31:21.942 --> 00:31:23.703 what the band is you just buy it 00:31:23.743 --> 00:31:25.967 because of the album art you flip through 00:31:25.987 --> 00:31:28.169 the album art and it's just interesting 00:31:31.690 --> 00:31:32.570 Yeah, 00:31:32.590 --> 00:31:33.392 even if you don't like the band or 00:31:33.412 --> 00:31:33.551 music, 00:31:33.571 --> 00:31:36.095 you listen to it enough until you do 00:31:36.134 --> 00:31:36.556 like it. 00:31:37.076 --> 00:31:38.278 And then you start to appreciate the 00:31:38.298 --> 00:31:38.817 little things. 00:31:39.098 --> 00:31:40.941 I also really admire this thing about my 00:31:40.961 --> 00:31:41.401 husband. 00:31:42.261 --> 00:31:44.585 He likes to look at... 00:31:46.326 --> 00:31:48.028 You know when you watch a movie and 00:31:48.048 --> 00:31:49.290 you can get the commentary? 00:31:50.226 --> 00:31:53.007 like you know like like look up trivia 00:31:53.047 --> 00:31:54.686 and find out like you know oh this 00:31:54.707 --> 00:31:56.208 was actually supposed to be you know 00:31:56.228 --> 00:31:57.748 filmed over here but we ended up doing 00:31:57.768 --> 00:31:59.568 this or this part was yeah no i 00:31:59.588 --> 00:32:01.128 know exactly what you're talking about he 00:32:01.148 --> 00:32:03.170 does all that like research he likes to 00:32:03.190 --> 00:32:04.509 know so in other words i'm just a 00:32:04.549 --> 00:32:08.010 massive nerd yeah there's no such thing 00:32:08.050 --> 00:32:10.092 here you're on the united states 00:32:10.132 --> 00:32:11.352 department of nerds 00:32:12.298 --> 00:32:15.419 that's just how it is here that's that's 00:32:15.538 --> 00:32:17.920 normal that's like you can't throw a rock 00:32:17.940 --> 00:32:19.320 in the united states department of nerds 00:32:19.361 --> 00:32:21.161 and not hit somebody else like that yeah 00:32:21.201 --> 00:32:23.642 i think we're in the right place in 00:32:23.682 --> 00:32:25.502 the house he's saying what's up guys 00:32:25.903 --> 00:32:28.824 that's another guy who was super excited 00:32:29.085 --> 00:32:30.484 about this book i don't know if he's 00:32:30.525 --> 00:32:32.266 relations to y'all or friends with y'all 00:32:32.326 --> 00:32:34.987 but he definitely let it 00:32:35.560 --> 00:32:37.503 be known that he was all about it. 00:32:37.525 --> 00:32:39.528 Jiminy Crickets is actually my conscious, 00:32:39.827 --> 00:32:41.411 so he's making an appearance tonight. 00:32:41.791 --> 00:32:43.134 Thanks for being my conscious. 00:32:43.193 --> 00:32:44.496 Well, shit, glad he can make it, man, 00:32:44.516 --> 00:32:46.398 because you're killing it so far, so... 00:32:48.075 --> 00:32:48.875 Oh yeah, nerds are cool. 00:32:48.934 --> 00:32:49.275 Hell yeah, 00:32:49.295 --> 00:32:50.915 it's about time people realized it too, 00:32:50.935 --> 00:32:51.276 man. 00:32:52.797 --> 00:32:55.096 So the eighties and nineties revenge 00:32:55.317 --> 00:32:57.617 action is definitely strong here. 00:32:58.097 --> 00:33:00.538 What references or influences guided that 00:33:00.578 --> 00:33:02.359 style of art and story for you? 00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:03.880 I know we dropped on it in a 00:33:03.900 --> 00:33:04.340 little bit, 00:33:04.401 --> 00:33:07.761 but I like to hear you say it. 00:33:07.781 --> 00:33:11.063 I think like the late eighties to mid 00:33:11.083 --> 00:33:13.084 nineties was some of the best times in 00:33:13.124 --> 00:33:13.544 comics. 00:33:14.699 --> 00:33:17.359 I feel like those were the, 00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:18.780 that was the time period where all those 00:33:18.820 --> 00:33:22.162 characters were really fleshed out and you 00:33:22.182 --> 00:33:22.781 know, those people, 00:33:22.882 --> 00:33:24.583 they were willing to take risks and tell 00:33:24.663 --> 00:33:26.443 strange stories and you know, 00:33:26.463 --> 00:33:28.223 it was just such a great time and 00:33:28.243 --> 00:33:29.565 they weren't afraid to get really like 00:33:29.605 --> 00:33:32.326 dark or go to like dark gritty places, 00:33:32.425 --> 00:33:33.826 especially with like the Punisher. 00:33:34.906 --> 00:33:35.086 I mean, 00:33:35.126 --> 00:33:38.208 I have such an appreciation for that era 00:33:38.248 --> 00:33:39.067 of those comics. 00:33:39.087 --> 00:33:40.449 No, absolutely. 00:33:40.972 --> 00:33:44.214 It was definitely a direct inspiration for 00:33:44.674 --> 00:33:45.355 what I wanted to do, 00:33:45.434 --> 00:33:46.476 especially aesthetically. 00:33:47.416 --> 00:33:50.837 But I do wanna explore a lot of 00:33:50.978 --> 00:33:51.739 other themes. 00:33:51.999 --> 00:33:53.640 There's gonna be some issues where it's a 00:33:53.660 --> 00:33:56.821 little lighthearted or a little bit more 00:33:56.882 --> 00:33:57.342 quiet. 00:33:59.717 --> 00:34:00.757 yeah those those those issues are 00:34:00.797 --> 00:34:02.218 important to storytelling though because 00:34:02.238 --> 00:34:03.278 that's where you're flushing out 00:34:03.298 --> 00:34:05.559 characters you're you're flushing out 00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:08.541 little intricacies about characters so 00:34:08.581 --> 00:34:09.922 those are definitely important to the 00:34:10.021 --> 00:34:12.903 overall big action storytelling that will 00:34:12.923 --> 00:34:15.485 come in between those types of things and 00:34:15.985 --> 00:34:17.385 always kind of like seeing as you're 00:34:17.425 --> 00:34:20.168 reading you know for instance house of 00:34:20.208 --> 00:34:21.889 slaughter has a few issues in there where 00:34:21.909 --> 00:34:24.449 it's just they're flushing out characters 00:34:24.489 --> 00:34:26.110 there's no killing of monsters they're 00:34:26.130 --> 00:34:27.411 just flushing out characters 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:30.039 then they come out with like the next 00:34:30.099 --> 00:34:31.961 big character and it's like boom right 00:34:31.981 --> 00:34:33.742 back into the action swinging hard and 00:34:33.782 --> 00:34:38.467 heavy monster killing galore and um i like 00:34:38.487 --> 00:34:40.088 that about storytelling where you get a 00:34:40.108 --> 00:34:42.010 chance to kind of take a step back 00:34:42.030 --> 00:34:44.672 from the heavy action and just flesh out 00:34:44.692 --> 00:34:46.793 characters and you get to know the 00:34:46.813 --> 00:34:49.414 character so now i mean that's i feel 00:34:49.434 --> 00:34:52.458 like that's part of comic book 00:34:52.518 --> 00:34:54.099 storytelling you're not going to have 00:34:54.219 --> 00:34:57.001 every not every part of a comic book 00:34:57.041 --> 00:34:57.501 is going to be 00:34:58.751 --> 00:35:00.514 Wham, bam, and you know what I'm saying? 00:35:01.317 --> 00:35:02.559 You got to have some time to flesh 00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:03.079 characters. 00:35:03.702 --> 00:35:05.865 And comics are the perfect medium to do 00:35:05.905 --> 00:35:07.688 it because, I mean, there's so many. 00:35:07.809 --> 00:35:09.773 To me, that's one of the best ways. 00:35:10.543 --> 00:35:10.943 Yeah, 00:35:10.983 --> 00:35:12.565 there's so many like films coming out 00:35:12.605 --> 00:35:14.947 based on comics and series. 00:35:15.867 --> 00:35:16.228 But for me, 00:35:16.288 --> 00:35:18.750 I'm a comics first kind of guy because 00:35:18.971 --> 00:35:20.311 there's so much that gets lost. 00:35:20.592 --> 00:35:22.893 You're trying to cram in all these issues 00:35:23.614 --> 00:35:25.516 or all this backstory into a three minute 00:35:25.556 --> 00:35:27.217 episode or an hour long film. 00:35:28.398 --> 00:35:30.920 So with comics, you can do so much. 00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:32.523 You can imagine whatever you want to 00:35:32.543 --> 00:35:33.043 imagine. 00:35:33.884 --> 00:35:35.425 It's the perfect medium for this kind of 00:35:35.445 --> 00:35:36.025 storytelling. 00:35:36.617 --> 00:35:38.159 No, you're absolutely right. 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:38.639 I mean, 00:35:38.739 --> 00:35:40.481 I use the reference of we know we're 00:35:40.501 --> 00:35:41.561 about to get, what is it, 00:35:41.702 --> 00:35:42.963 Secret War from Marvel? 00:35:44.324 --> 00:35:44.445 Well, 00:35:44.465 --> 00:35:46.025 while the Secret War was being fought, 00:35:46.045 --> 00:35:47.766 there was like two other worlds in the 00:35:47.847 --> 00:35:48.427 Marvel, 00:35:48.807 --> 00:35:51.070 two other wars in the Marvel Universe 00:35:51.590 --> 00:35:53.992 being fought at the same as that time 00:35:54.012 --> 00:35:55.793 that had more impact on the Marvel 00:35:55.853 --> 00:35:57.795 Universe than the Secret Wars. 00:35:58.315 --> 00:35:59.376 So I think it's really cool. 00:35:59.396 --> 00:36:02.840 So... Yeah, for sure. 00:36:03.601 --> 00:36:04.021 All right, now... 00:36:06.695 --> 00:36:09.597 We leave the political type stuff 00:36:10.557 --> 00:36:11.677 someplace else. 00:36:12.777 --> 00:36:13.838 We don't do that kind of stuff here. 00:36:14.759 --> 00:36:17.139 We focus on the comic book and the 00:36:17.179 --> 00:36:19.181 storytelling of the comic book and the man 00:36:19.221 --> 00:36:20.702 telling the story of the comic book. 00:36:20.722 --> 00:36:24.443 So if you're in the comments or if 00:36:24.463 --> 00:36:25.364 you're listening at home, 00:36:26.204 --> 00:36:27.603 we at the United States Department of 00:36:27.664 --> 00:36:29.324 Nerds do not do politics and do not 00:36:29.364 --> 00:36:30.306 speak of politics. 00:36:30.525 --> 00:36:33.047 We focus on the content and the creators. 00:36:33.086 --> 00:36:36.027 That's fair enough. 00:36:37.333 --> 00:36:45.978 We live in a really polarized world, 00:36:45.998 --> 00:36:47.197 so it's really hard to navigate. 00:36:47.217 --> 00:36:47.737 It really is. 00:36:47.797 --> 00:36:49.338 One of the things I try to do 00:36:49.398 --> 00:36:51.840 here is if there's something that is 00:36:51.900 --> 00:36:53.541 posted or something like that politically 00:36:53.621 --> 00:36:53.960 leaning, 00:36:54.740 --> 00:36:59.523 I typically remove it and just don't 00:36:59.543 --> 00:37:01.943 acknowledge it because I don't like that. 00:37:03.184 --> 00:37:06.746 I try to keep everything about the content 00:37:07.702 --> 00:37:08.882 about the plague tonight. 00:37:09.463 --> 00:37:11.005 And that's what we're going to do. 00:37:11.065 --> 00:37:14.867 So there's a cinematic quality, 00:37:15.128 --> 00:37:18.590 almost like old VHS horror turned comic 00:37:18.610 --> 00:37:20.512 book was this intentional with the way you 00:37:20.871 --> 00:37:21.393 did this? 00:37:21.432 --> 00:37:23.114 Cause you kind of get that, 00:37:23.293 --> 00:37:27.617 that eighties and nineties vibe in the 00:37:27.777 --> 00:37:29.579 story that I've seen so far. 00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:31.039 So it was that intentionally done that 00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:33.963 way, or I think that just kind of, 00:37:35.150 --> 00:37:36.231 developed organically. 00:37:36.271 --> 00:37:37.873 It wasn't really something I had in mind. 00:37:40.315 --> 00:37:40.894 Because like I said, 00:37:40.934 --> 00:37:42.755 everything is becoming so like, 00:37:43.737 --> 00:37:45.418 they're making the jump from like comics 00:37:45.498 --> 00:37:46.358 right into films. 00:37:46.418 --> 00:37:47.358 I know a lot of people are, 00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:50.521 that's their end goal is to make films 00:37:50.581 --> 00:37:51.121 or series. 00:37:51.202 --> 00:37:52.422 But for me, like I said, 00:37:52.443 --> 00:37:54.704 I'm a comics first person. 00:37:55.304 --> 00:37:56.726 I honestly don't even care if the plague 00:37:56.766 --> 00:37:58.427 ever becomes like some film or I don't 00:37:58.467 --> 00:37:58.606 care. 00:37:59.487 --> 00:37:59.668 Yeah. 00:37:59.688 --> 00:38:00.768 I'm all about the comics. 00:38:00.969 --> 00:38:02.690 So I like that. 00:38:02.750 --> 00:38:02.869 Yeah. 00:38:05.318 --> 00:38:08.221 So how important was the color in building 00:38:08.260 --> 00:38:10.742 this dystopian, supernatural mood? 00:38:10.802 --> 00:38:12.463 I know you yourself have never been to 00:38:12.503 --> 00:38:15.106 New Orleans, but in that swamp scene, 00:38:15.186 --> 00:38:15.985 in this book, 00:38:16.666 --> 00:38:19.329 you're nailing the essence of that. 00:38:19.469 --> 00:38:21.309 So I don't know who your artist is 00:38:21.369 --> 00:38:21.869 doing it, 00:38:22.190 --> 00:38:25.052 but they nailed that essence of the swamps 00:38:25.092 --> 00:38:26.733 in New Orleans in that. 00:38:28.375 --> 00:38:30.436 The artist, his name is Miguel Ayuso. 00:38:31.016 --> 00:38:31.797 He's a great artist. 00:38:34.409 --> 00:38:35.628 And in terms of like the color and 00:38:35.648 --> 00:38:35.809 stuff, 00:38:35.869 --> 00:38:37.769 what I wanted to kind of express was 00:38:37.789 --> 00:38:41.130 that as the moment gets closer to Diego's 00:38:41.190 --> 00:38:43.632 demise, things become more bleak. 00:38:44.391 --> 00:38:46.313 And it's kind of like foreshadowing that 00:38:46.353 --> 00:38:48.452 things are starting to get darker and 00:38:48.472 --> 00:38:51.474 making that transition from that dystopian 00:38:51.514 --> 00:38:53.775 world into that supernatural kind of 00:38:53.875 --> 00:38:57.056 element of the story. 00:38:57.155 --> 00:38:57.315 Yeah, 00:38:57.335 --> 00:38:58.235 it would kind of be cool to see 00:38:58.255 --> 00:38:59.976 it as an animated film or a series. 00:39:00.237 --> 00:39:01.617 Just from what I've seen of it, 00:39:01.896 --> 00:39:02.838 it would be kind of dope. 00:39:03.498 --> 00:39:04.077 Not going to lie. 00:39:07.128 --> 00:39:09.929 Maybe one day we'll see. 00:39:09.969 --> 00:39:10.170 All right. 00:39:10.210 --> 00:39:12.210 Let's talk about the Kickstarter now. 00:39:12.989 --> 00:39:15.931 So this is an indie self-published project 00:39:16.050 --> 00:39:18.251 that is definitely make or break for 00:39:18.271 --> 00:39:18.610 y'all. 00:39:19.972 --> 00:39:22.851 How has that journey been like so far? 00:39:22.911 --> 00:39:26.793 And I know you've gotten partial completed 00:39:26.833 --> 00:39:27.793 book right now. 00:39:28.452 --> 00:39:31.034 Like how has this journey been for y'all? 00:39:33.170 --> 00:39:33.851 It's been tough. 00:39:34.010 --> 00:39:34.331 I mean, 00:39:34.731 --> 00:39:36.592 I had never made a legitimate comic 00:39:36.612 --> 00:39:36.972 before. 00:39:37.293 --> 00:39:37.972 I mean, as a kid, 00:39:37.992 --> 00:39:40.054 I just make like little doodles and 00:39:40.094 --> 00:39:40.893 sketches and stuff, 00:39:40.934 --> 00:39:42.235 but nothing ever like this. 00:39:42.375 --> 00:39:45.175 So I didn't really know what to 00:39:45.235 --> 00:39:45.856 anticipate. 00:39:45.896 --> 00:39:47.697 And I found the biggest issue I had 00:39:47.737 --> 00:39:49.458 was actually my own ambition. 00:39:50.557 --> 00:39:54.340 I didn't know that I had to take 00:39:54.380 --> 00:39:56.360 this huge story with all this background 00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:58.681 and shove it into this three page comic. 00:39:59.820 --> 00:40:02.762 And I had to really whittle down so 00:40:02.802 --> 00:40:04.681 much of the story, cut huge chunks out, 00:40:05.581 --> 00:40:07.242 go back and forth to the drawing board, 00:40:07.302 --> 00:40:08.202 rework things. 00:40:08.842 --> 00:40:10.543 It was a real challenge. 00:40:11.643 --> 00:40:13.844 But I learned a lot. 00:40:15.224 --> 00:40:16.144 I learned what not to do. 00:40:17.445 --> 00:40:20.365 And I'm still learning. 00:40:20.385 --> 00:40:21.686 You're going to be evolving. 00:40:22.525 --> 00:40:23.646 Yeah, for sure, for sure. 00:40:23.867 --> 00:40:25.186 I think by the time issue two comes 00:40:25.226 --> 00:40:25.427 around, 00:40:25.467 --> 00:40:28.748 I'm going to be pretty much knowing what 00:40:28.788 --> 00:40:28.847 I'm 00:40:31.405 --> 00:40:31.545 doing. 00:40:31.585 --> 00:40:34.228 And also like, like me, 00:40:34.690 --> 00:40:36.572 I've drawn a bit in the past, like, 00:40:36.612 --> 00:40:37.373 I'm never really like, 00:40:37.432 --> 00:40:39.175 I usually just like, draw a bit, 00:40:39.215 --> 00:40:42.117 give up years later, try again, like, 00:40:42.177 --> 00:40:42.659 you know. 00:40:44.260 --> 00:40:46.443 And when I would draw a draw, 00:40:46.503 --> 00:40:47.824 I'd like to draw with like a reference 00:40:47.864 --> 00:40:49.487 and do like more like just humans. 00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:52.742 yeah like photorealistic so seeing like 00:40:52.762 --> 00:40:55.103 the comic world and how like how important 00:40:55.123 --> 00:40:57.463 the line work is and the coloring all 00:40:57.483 --> 00:40:58.804 this stuff like i feel like there's you 00:40:58.824 --> 00:41:00.585 know a lot of it is tracing right 00:41:00.965 --> 00:41:02.206 a lot of the comic book art that 00:41:02.226 --> 00:41:04.188 you see covers and that kind of stuff 00:41:04.768 --> 00:41:06.670 that's mostly tracing if you go watch some 00:41:06.710 --> 00:41:09.490 of the big artists do their covers a 00:41:09.610 --> 00:41:10.731 lot of it is tracing 00:41:12.335 --> 00:41:14.056 Oh, I feel like you can tell. 00:41:14.297 --> 00:41:14.418 Like, 00:41:14.498 --> 00:41:15.938 I feel like you can tell the difference 00:41:15.958 --> 00:41:17.340 when something is just sketched 00:41:17.721 --> 00:41:18.442 organically. 00:41:18.461 --> 00:41:20.463 And personally, I prefer that. 00:41:21.085 --> 00:41:21.505 Like, I mean, 00:41:21.525 --> 00:41:22.925 they do a lot of sketching and then 00:41:22.967 --> 00:41:24.708 like they put it on the light board. 00:41:25.168 --> 00:41:26.570 And then that's when they start working on 00:41:26.610 --> 00:41:28.853 their final like cuts of their covers and 00:41:28.893 --> 00:41:29.452 stuff like that. 00:41:29.472 --> 00:41:29.813 But yeah, 00:41:29.833 --> 00:41:32.076 they have these a lot of this tracing. 00:41:32.655 --> 00:41:34.938 And it's just they're really damn good at 00:41:34.978 --> 00:41:35.059 it. 00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:36.981 Yeah, but it's also crazy how there's, 00:41:37.001 --> 00:41:38.322 like, a person who does the color, 00:41:38.402 --> 00:41:39.822 the person who does the inks, 00:41:39.842 --> 00:41:41.885 the person who does the letters, like, so, 00:41:41.905 --> 00:41:43.585 like, us trying to, like, 00:41:43.606 --> 00:41:45.347 get into the comic world, it's like, oh, 00:41:45.367 --> 00:41:46.509 okay, well, we have to be, like, 00:41:46.528 --> 00:41:47.248 basically, like, 00:41:47.268 --> 00:41:48.931 twenty different people each, you know? 00:41:49.471 --> 00:41:50.911 And it's just, like, it's kind of, like, 00:41:50.952 --> 00:41:53.153 lonely, but it's kind of interesting to... 00:41:53.193 --> 00:41:54.594 Are you finding one person that can do 00:41:54.655 --> 00:41:54.976 it all? 00:41:55.835 --> 00:41:57.338 Yeah, we're trying, but... 00:41:59.597 --> 00:42:01.557 So we got Taylor here who can't wait 00:42:01.597 --> 00:42:03.099 to get their t-shirt from the Kickstarter. 00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:04.858 And the Kickstarter hasn't even launched 00:42:04.898 --> 00:42:05.139 yet. 00:42:05.619 --> 00:42:06.880 But you've got to admit, 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:08.641 that shirt is super clean. 00:42:08.661 --> 00:42:10.422 Look at that lucky devil comet shirt as 00:42:10.461 --> 00:42:10.702 well. 00:42:10.722 --> 00:42:14.422 I'm guessing these are both going to be 00:42:14.463 --> 00:42:15.963 a part of the Kickstarter, right? 00:42:17.402 --> 00:42:18.684 yeah definitely yeah for sure these are 00:42:18.963 --> 00:42:20.704 these are like the prototypes the early 00:42:20.744 --> 00:42:23.106 designs but it's pretty much what you see 00:42:23.146 --> 00:42:24.128 here is what's going to be on the 00:42:24.148 --> 00:42:26.849 kickstarter and we've got a lot of ones 00:42:26.889 --> 00:42:29.411 right there it's the one of ones i 00:42:29.431 --> 00:42:30.632 know how you feel that's a one of 00:42:30.733 --> 00:42:31.034 one too 00:42:32.898 --> 00:42:33.677 Got to represent. 00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:34.639 Exactly. 00:42:34.898 --> 00:42:35.518 You have to. 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:36.840 I like that you were both like, 00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:37.199 you know what, 00:42:37.219 --> 00:42:38.340 we're going to do this together. 00:42:38.380 --> 00:42:39.621 We're going to rock our one-on-one 00:42:39.661 --> 00:42:40.461 t-shirts. 00:42:41.262 --> 00:42:42.342 I like that a lot. 00:42:43.422 --> 00:42:45.184 This is the only t-shirt I own. 00:42:45.204 --> 00:42:47.244 I'm kind of strapped for cash. 00:42:49.106 --> 00:42:49.846 Hungry artist. 00:42:49.885 --> 00:42:50.827 You're a hungry artist. 00:42:50.887 --> 00:42:52.347 Of course you're strapped for cash, 00:42:52.407 --> 00:42:52.907 my man. 00:42:54.568 --> 00:42:55.349 We all are. 00:42:56.148 --> 00:42:57.210 I have bad habits. 00:42:57.250 --> 00:43:00.630 They're called comic books. 00:43:00.670 --> 00:43:01.431 And Legos. 00:43:04.610 --> 00:43:06.713 And Star Wars action figures. 00:43:09.277 --> 00:43:09.336 Oh, 00:43:09.356 --> 00:43:10.759 we got a whole family waiting on their 00:43:10.798 --> 00:43:10.978 merch. 00:43:10.998 --> 00:43:15.304 Star Wars little action figures. 00:43:15.324 --> 00:43:15.844 Little Darth Vader action. 00:43:15.885 --> 00:43:17.688 He should have came out with the intro, 00:43:17.708 --> 00:43:19.068 but he's making his appearance now. 00:43:19.128 --> 00:43:19.208 Okay. 00:43:23.103 --> 00:43:24.804 When you get the clips of this, 00:43:24.963 --> 00:43:27.164 you're going to hear Darth Vader's voice 00:43:27.784 --> 00:43:31.045 saying you are listening to the DFPN on 00:43:31.085 --> 00:43:33.806 the or the USDN on the DFPN. 00:43:34.407 --> 00:43:35.987 And that is actually my good friend, 00:43:36.708 --> 00:43:38.867 Frank D, who does the voice. 00:43:39.327 --> 00:43:41.509 And he does it as Darth Vader. 00:43:41.969 --> 00:43:43.869 He's also a Darth Vader cosplayer. 00:43:43.889 --> 00:43:45.710 Oh, nice. 00:43:45.771 --> 00:43:47.911 Recognized by the five of First Legion. 00:43:47.951 --> 00:43:49.612 So shout out to Frank D and happy 00:43:49.652 --> 00:43:50.692 belated birthday, buddy, 00:43:50.711 --> 00:43:52.072 because I know you just had a birthday, 00:43:52.112 --> 00:43:52.293 too. 00:43:53.182 --> 00:43:57.364 so he killed it now that's a hell 00:43:57.485 --> 00:43:58.425 of an intro very cool he just does 00:43:58.445 --> 00:44:00.286 the voice like the darth vader voice you 00:44:00.306 --> 00:44:04.708 hear in the intro that's him so yeah 00:44:04.768 --> 00:44:08.550 really cool stuff there he needs an 00:44:08.630 --> 00:44:12.092 original early design tee as well your 00:44:12.132 --> 00:44:13.672 conscience is wanting a t-shirt dude we'll 00:44:13.693 --> 00:44:18.255 see we'll see you need to talk to 00:44:18.295 --> 00:44:19.795 your conscience and get him putting the 00:44:19.835 --> 00:44:22.257 check or at least get him back inside 00:44:24.402 --> 00:44:25.983 Well, he makes very rare appearances, 00:44:26.063 --> 00:44:29.085 but with the T-shirt, like I said, 00:44:29.106 --> 00:44:30.447 what you see is pretty much what you 00:44:30.467 --> 00:44:30.726 get. 00:44:31.487 --> 00:44:33.789 I traded my conscious for a ten-speed bike 00:44:33.849 --> 00:44:35.971 after my other ten-speed bike got stolen. 00:44:35.990 --> 00:44:37.492 The one I traded with my soul. 00:44:40.474 --> 00:44:41.634 We've all been there, friend. 00:44:43.856 --> 00:44:45.617 So how did you put this team together? 00:44:45.657 --> 00:44:46.677 I mean, obviously, 00:44:46.697 --> 00:44:47.717 you married half your team, 00:44:47.737 --> 00:44:48.679 but like your artist. 00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:51.181 Who else do you have on your team? 00:44:52.568 --> 00:44:54.710 so yeah lucky devil is just myself and 00:44:54.750 --> 00:44:57.949 my wife and uh for the art originally 00:44:57.989 --> 00:45:00.210 we wanted to do it ourselves but yeah 00:45:00.231 --> 00:45:02.931 okay so we didn't anticipate what a major 00:45:03.172 --> 00:45:05.251 task that would be yeah it's going to 00:45:05.271 --> 00:45:06.512 take a while to get there but uh 00:45:07.333 --> 00:45:10.452 yeah so we decided to outsource so the 00:45:10.512 --> 00:45:13.653 interior work is done by miguel ayuso like 00:45:13.673 --> 00:45:16.295 i said great artist uh the cover art 00:45:16.315 --> 00:45:17.014 was done by 00:45:17.985 --> 00:45:18.846 Daniel Gimeno. 00:45:19.065 --> 00:45:20.527 I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. 00:45:21.487 --> 00:45:22.789 Another fantastic artist. 00:45:23.530 --> 00:45:25.251 The cover is really cool. 00:45:25.271 --> 00:45:26.291 I like the cover. 00:45:26.913 --> 00:45:28.574 And the background art for the cover was 00:45:28.614 --> 00:45:29.974 done by Nicole. 00:45:30.956 --> 00:45:33.737 So the character that you see is Daniel 00:45:33.757 --> 00:45:34.177 Gimeno. 00:45:34.217 --> 00:45:36.000 The background, that's all Nicole. 00:45:36.820 --> 00:45:37.141 I see. 00:45:37.221 --> 00:45:37.880 Okay. 00:45:38.222 --> 00:45:39.322 She's earning her keep, man. 00:45:39.342 --> 00:45:39.422 Yeah. 00:45:41.884 --> 00:45:43.184 She's keeping that wife title. 00:45:43.605 --> 00:45:46.666 Yeah, we just got like a tablet, 00:45:46.706 --> 00:45:50.110 you know, like somewhat recently though, 00:45:50.190 --> 00:45:50.909 you know, 00:45:50.949 --> 00:45:54.311 like not only not being into that kind 00:45:54.331 --> 00:45:56.474 of art, but switching to digital art too. 00:45:56.574 --> 00:45:59.436 It's like, there's a lot to learn. 00:46:00.315 --> 00:46:01.597 There's a lot to learn for sure. 00:46:01.617 --> 00:46:04.498 Mine is literally right here. 00:46:06.025 --> 00:46:07.606 I'm trying my hand at it as well. 00:46:08.427 --> 00:46:09.728 And it's not going as good as what 00:46:09.748 --> 00:46:10.307 you're doing. 00:46:12.329 --> 00:46:14.449 But I am trying my hand at it. 00:46:15.590 --> 00:46:18.112 Yeah. 00:46:18.152 --> 00:46:18.672 So far, 00:46:19.172 --> 00:46:21.134 what has been your biggest challenge in 00:46:21.193 --> 00:46:24.356 getting this off the ground outside of the 00:46:24.476 --> 00:46:27.358 money that it does go to put into 00:46:27.378 --> 00:46:28.478 this book to make it happen? 00:46:30.469 --> 00:46:30.690 Yeah, 00:46:30.750 --> 00:46:33.090 the finances was definitely a struggle, 00:46:33.130 --> 00:46:34.992 but I think the biggest issue is just 00:46:35.032 --> 00:46:35.351 time. 00:46:35.692 --> 00:46:38.672 I mean, I work six days a week. 00:46:38.873 --> 00:46:39.753 I'm always on the road. 00:46:41.753 --> 00:46:43.474 It's really just hard to find time to 00:46:43.514 --> 00:46:44.695 do all the things I have to do. 00:46:46.215 --> 00:46:47.516 And there's a lot of stuff to do. 00:46:47.615 --> 00:46:50.117 So it's just really time is like the 00:46:50.157 --> 00:46:52.516 biggest factor. 00:46:52.677 --> 00:46:54.237 Oh, time is everybody's enemy. 00:46:55.318 --> 00:46:57.358 Yeah, I think that like, 00:46:57.378 --> 00:46:58.358 like we already mentioned before, 00:46:58.398 --> 00:46:59.900 like kind of condensing it. 00:47:00.773 --> 00:47:02.695 into like the thirty pages or whatever 00:47:02.715 --> 00:47:03.954 amount of pages you need. 00:47:04.056 --> 00:47:06.757 Like it's hard to like think about what 00:47:06.777 --> 00:47:09.418 can be cut and what, you know, 00:47:09.498 --> 00:47:10.498 because you don't want to take... Yeah, 00:47:10.518 --> 00:47:12.199 what's vital to the story? 00:47:12.219 --> 00:47:14.139 What's important? 00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:15.221 Yeah, that's... 00:47:15.240 --> 00:47:16.360 So I don't know how many of my 00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:17.661 episodes you had watched. 00:47:18.322 --> 00:47:22.143 The Vitrillium or Vitilirium series that I 00:47:22.224 --> 00:47:23.384 interviewed Nicholas on. 00:47:25.065 --> 00:47:27.065 So his comic book is based off his 00:47:27.146 --> 00:47:29.427 sci-fi book of the same name, Vitilirium. 00:47:30.978 --> 00:47:32.460 And he will tell you straight up in 00:47:32.701 --> 00:47:33.322 that interview, 00:47:33.362 --> 00:47:35.844 the hardest thing he did was taking the 00:47:35.925 --> 00:47:38.367 book and trying now to convert it over 00:47:38.407 --> 00:47:41.612 into a comic book as well and finding 00:47:41.652 --> 00:47:43.193 what works and doesn't work. 00:47:43.634 --> 00:47:45.436 And that's what is good about having a 00:47:45.476 --> 00:47:48.400 good team behind you with your artist and 00:47:48.420 --> 00:47:49.460 your wife there to go, 00:47:50.262 --> 00:47:52.061 Hey, this is a critical point right here. 00:47:52.103 --> 00:47:54.282 We definitely want to keep this in and 00:47:54.322 --> 00:47:54.782 this one. 00:47:55.422 --> 00:47:56.664 And we could probably take that out. 00:47:56.704 --> 00:47:57.543 It's not so vital. 00:47:57.844 --> 00:47:59.304 But if it comes back later, it's like, 00:47:59.403 --> 00:48:00.664 oh, maybe we should have kept that. 00:48:00.724 --> 00:48:02.425 But you can always do a flashback to 00:48:02.445 --> 00:48:03.445 it in another issue. 00:48:03.945 --> 00:48:04.166 So, I mean, 00:48:04.186 --> 00:48:06.206 there's ways to fit things later, 00:48:06.965 --> 00:48:08.407 but you definitely don't want to cut out 00:48:08.447 --> 00:48:10.487 stuff that's very vital to the story. 00:48:11.067 --> 00:48:13.327 And that's something I do not envy you 00:48:13.447 --> 00:48:14.168 on at all. 00:48:14.947 --> 00:48:16.389 I can't imagine how hard that is. 00:48:17.226 --> 00:48:18.608 I'm happy when we can at least bounce 00:48:18.628 --> 00:48:19.507 things off each other. 00:48:19.547 --> 00:48:21.349 Cause I feel like sometimes, you know, 00:48:21.389 --> 00:48:23.389 you can feel so like attached to certain 00:48:23.489 --> 00:48:24.670 ideas or you might like, 00:48:24.909 --> 00:48:26.670 you might have so much bias that you 00:48:26.690 --> 00:48:28.972 won't, you're not able to like, you know, 00:48:29.692 --> 00:48:30.753 you don't want to compromise. 00:48:30.793 --> 00:48:31.693 You don't want to change something, 00:48:31.713 --> 00:48:33.853 but like at least we're able to like. 00:48:33.873 --> 00:48:34.514 Yeah. 00:48:34.534 --> 00:48:35.934 See, 00:48:36.034 --> 00:48:38.496 I wanted to add a huge ginormous tits 00:48:39.036 --> 00:48:40.556 on the plague and she kept telling me 00:48:40.577 --> 00:48:41.657 it was such a bad idea. 00:48:42.077 --> 00:48:43.197 I still think it's a good idea. 00:48:48.097 --> 00:48:50.137 think maybe you know what i can see 00:48:50.197 --> 00:48:51.559 it though i can see it but i 00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:53.260 don't i don't i don't really know how 00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:55.981 the character himself i don't know how the 00:48:56.001 --> 00:48:58.121 character himself is going to feel about 00:48:58.141 --> 00:49:05.385 that and maybe it was his girlfriend who 00:49:05.405 --> 00:49:08.248 was being you know becoming the plague 00:49:08.487 --> 00:49:10.389 then it could have worked that way but 00:49:12.951 --> 00:49:13.590 I really do. 00:49:14.152 --> 00:49:15.693 I see a lot of Kickstarters and those 00:49:15.733 --> 00:49:16.893 seem to be the most successful. 00:49:16.913 --> 00:49:17.293 Oh, yeah, that's true. 00:49:17.313 --> 00:49:18.974 I contemplated it. 00:49:19.114 --> 00:49:22.137 Yeah. 00:49:22.177 --> 00:49:26.418 You have no idea like that. 00:49:26.579 --> 00:49:26.759 Yeah. 00:49:27.460 --> 00:49:29.340 But my boy Kelvin has a question here. 00:49:29.380 --> 00:49:31.742 How rewarding is it to see your work 00:49:31.782 --> 00:49:34.923 so appreciated and anticipated as a result 00:49:35.023 --> 00:49:36.585 of the hard work that you've put in? 00:49:37.085 --> 00:49:39.027 And we were discussing this. 00:49:39.407 --> 00:49:40.487 You're definitely getting that. 00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:43.701 Honestly, I still can't believe it. 00:49:43.940 --> 00:49:44.260 I mean, 00:49:45.442 --> 00:49:47.882 I expected to get like a fraction of 00:49:47.922 --> 00:49:49.364 what I got in terms of people being 00:49:49.463 --> 00:49:50.005 interested, 00:49:50.105 --> 00:49:52.425 but people are reaching out to me, 00:49:53.106 --> 00:49:54.086 asking me when's it coming out. 00:49:54.206 --> 00:49:57.969 Like, it's just like, I can't believe it. 00:49:58.389 --> 00:50:00.791 You know, it's, it's definitely rewarding, 00:50:00.871 --> 00:50:02.152 but I also see it as a big 00:50:02.552 --> 00:50:05.012 responsibility, you know, 00:50:05.032 --> 00:50:07.494 because once you take on a big project. 00:50:08.275 --> 00:50:09.675 It's going to be up to all those 00:50:09.735 --> 00:50:10.956 people to make it happen. 00:50:12.556 --> 00:50:14.478 So as people are asking you these 00:50:14.518 --> 00:50:15.458 questions, I mean, 00:50:15.478 --> 00:50:16.860 that's literally the answer. 00:50:17.460 --> 00:50:19.641 Is this up to y'all who keep, 00:50:19.842 --> 00:50:20.742 you know, 00:50:20.782 --> 00:50:22.744 coming and asking questions and showing 00:50:22.804 --> 00:50:24.925 support and, you know, 00:50:24.945 --> 00:50:26.266 really showing interest in this that's 00:50:26.306 --> 00:50:27.427 going to make this book happen? 00:50:27.847 --> 00:50:32.130 So you give them that answer. 00:50:32.170 --> 00:50:32.969 That's the answer. 00:50:34.291 --> 00:50:35.572 And Jiminy Cricket is back. 00:50:35.612 --> 00:50:37.373 He said that's issue number two, the SAG. 00:50:37.592 --> 00:50:38.773 Come on, man. 00:50:43.701 --> 00:50:46.663 you gotta get your conscious in check he 00:50:46.682 --> 00:50:51.505 was still a young man please let the 00:50:51.525 --> 00:50:53.547 man make it into his thirties late 00:50:53.648 --> 00:50:59.472 thirties at that i think i like it 00:50:59.711 --> 00:51:04.635 good protagonist there we go there we go 00:51:05.436 --> 00:51:05.476 uh 00:51:07.422 --> 00:51:10.525 So talk to us about the upcoming campaign 00:51:10.565 --> 00:51:13.106 and what backers can expect in terms of 00:51:13.166 --> 00:51:15.989 some of the rewards and exclusives. 00:51:16.009 --> 00:51:16.389 I mean, we're, 00:51:16.548 --> 00:51:17.929 we're seeing two of them right now with 00:51:17.949 --> 00:51:18.570 the t-shirts, 00:51:18.610 --> 00:51:20.030 which are really dope looking, 00:51:20.490 --> 00:51:22.052 but kind of break it down to everybody. 00:51:22.112 --> 00:51:23.693 Like we know you're going to have the 00:51:23.773 --> 00:51:25.134 book, a digital book, 00:51:25.193 --> 00:51:26.956 but what else can people can expect from 00:51:27.016 --> 00:51:28.476 it? 00:51:28.657 --> 00:51:28.777 Yeah. 00:51:28.797 --> 00:51:30.077 I wanted to keep the, uh, 00:51:30.237 --> 00:51:33.059 the rewards simple, but exciting, 00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:33.679 you know, so, 00:51:34.556 --> 00:51:35.557 I try to think in terms of what 00:51:35.697 --> 00:51:36.219 I would want. 00:51:37.260 --> 00:51:38.641 And yeah, the t-shirts for sure. 00:51:39.262 --> 00:51:41.344 We got the digital, the physical copy. 00:51:42.465 --> 00:51:43.688 We got a hoodie that's coming. 00:51:45.489 --> 00:51:47.652 I'm also offering a cameo for people that 00:51:47.672 --> 00:51:50.074 want to be in the comic, which is, 00:51:50.235 --> 00:51:50.956 that's going to be fun. 00:51:52.478 --> 00:51:53.139 What else do we got? 00:51:53.936 --> 00:51:54.856 Be careful with that. 00:51:54.896 --> 00:51:56.797 You'll end up like my boy Christopher Ford 00:51:56.818 --> 00:51:58.880 with Dark Pink where he had to create 00:51:58.940 --> 00:52:01.141 three extra mini stories to get all the 00:52:01.202 --> 00:52:01.961 characters in. 00:52:03.282 --> 00:52:04.284 I'm not shitting you. 00:52:04.324 --> 00:52:04.945 He was like, dude, 00:52:04.965 --> 00:52:08.586 I had to create three mini stories to 00:52:09.208 --> 00:52:11.268 get all the people in who wanted to 00:52:11.309 --> 00:52:13.170 make cameos in the comic book. 00:52:14.652 --> 00:52:16.833 Which is insane to think about, 00:52:17.693 --> 00:52:19.056 but I would love to see that happen 00:52:19.076 --> 00:52:20.175 for you because I think that would be 00:52:20.235 --> 00:52:21.878 really, really cool to see. 00:52:22.637 --> 00:52:22.777 Well, 00:52:22.797 --> 00:52:26.181 we're thinking more so like you show up 00:52:26.340 --> 00:52:29.483 in a panel, not like a full-on character, 00:52:29.523 --> 00:52:30.324 you know? 00:52:30.425 --> 00:52:30.826 Yeah, I mean, 00:52:30.846 --> 00:52:31.947 that's the way it was in his, too. 00:52:31.967 --> 00:52:33.047 Oh, yeah? 00:52:33.509 --> 00:52:34.349 I did limit it to ten. 00:52:34.409 --> 00:52:35.570 Okay, there you go. 00:52:35.610 --> 00:52:36.632 You got to limit that. 00:52:37.231 --> 00:52:38.253 Yeah. 00:52:38.273 --> 00:52:39.735 Because I don't think – I'm not sure 00:52:39.755 --> 00:52:40.715 what happened with him. 00:52:41.056 --> 00:52:42.077 I think he just kind of left it 00:52:42.157 --> 00:52:42.438 open, 00:52:42.478 --> 00:52:44.780 and then it just kind of – 00:52:45.092 --> 00:52:47.574 ran away okay people are like oh i 00:52:47.655 --> 00:52:51.518 won't hit something right no he killed it 00:52:51.538 --> 00:52:54.179 with that kickstarter dude his marketing 00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:56.641 was insane his marketing was insane i was 00:52:56.661 --> 00:52:59.545 talking to him about that and even today 00:52:59.585 --> 00:53:03.307 i'm still seeing pop-up ads for dark pink 00:53:03.367 --> 00:53:07.090 which is insane to me because i mean 00:53:07.170 --> 00:53:07.351 every 00:53:08.643 --> 00:53:10.264 can still buy in on the kickstarter for 00:53:10.304 --> 00:53:12.204 those who wonder kickstarters when they 00:53:12.224 --> 00:53:13.945 close yes they're closed but you can still 00:53:13.985 --> 00:53:17.766 buy in on them depending on the settings 00:53:17.865 --> 00:53:20.766 of the kickstarter so it is still possible 00:53:22.045 --> 00:53:24.907 but it's still crazy to see like the 00:53:24.947 --> 00:53:28.206 marketing on his book is absolutely insane 00:53:28.646 --> 00:53:30.288 so if you have a budget for marketing 00:53:31.047 --> 00:53:33.268 put some money into marketing because that 00:53:33.307 --> 00:53:34.708 will ultimately at the end of the day 00:53:34.728 --> 00:53:37.028 be one of your best friends um 00:53:38.547 --> 00:53:40.469 So what does fan support mean to you 00:53:40.710 --> 00:53:41.291 personally, 00:53:41.351 --> 00:53:45.376 knowing that every pledge will help make 00:53:45.416 --> 00:53:47.179 this world of the plague happen? 00:53:48.340 --> 00:53:50.704 This is basically your love to the fans. 00:53:50.724 --> 00:53:51.204 Give it now. 00:53:52.269 --> 00:53:52.710 Yeah, I mean, 00:53:53.210 --> 00:53:54.751 their support means everything because 00:53:54.771 --> 00:53:56.251 without them, it's not getting made. 00:53:56.693 --> 00:53:58.092 I mean, that's just the reality of it. 00:53:59.134 --> 00:54:00.155 And, I mean, 00:54:00.195 --> 00:54:01.775 I'm also not just doing this for myself. 00:54:01.896 --> 00:54:02.235 Obviously, 00:54:02.255 --> 00:54:04.117 I want to tell a story and do 00:54:04.137 --> 00:54:04.697 this comic, 00:54:04.757 --> 00:54:05.898 but I want to create something that's 00:54:06.918 --> 00:54:08.079 going to last, you know? 00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:09.940 I have a hundred issues in mind. 00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:11.181 I want to create something that people are 00:54:11.201 --> 00:54:14.202 going to love, you know? 00:54:14.523 --> 00:54:15.282 And, yeah, I mean, 00:54:15.322 --> 00:54:16.983 their support means everything. 00:54:17.565 --> 00:54:18.844 Dude, you're well on your way, dude. 00:54:18.945 --> 00:54:19.565 I'm telling you. 00:54:20.445 --> 00:54:20.525 I've... 00:54:22.590 --> 00:54:24.132 I was telling you earlier when y'all asked 00:54:24.152 --> 00:54:25.612 me like how many of these I've done 00:54:25.652 --> 00:54:26.032 this year. 00:54:26.052 --> 00:54:26.512 And I told you, 00:54:26.532 --> 00:54:27.773 I think I was like close to twenty, 00:54:27.813 --> 00:54:29.054 I think. 00:54:29.134 --> 00:54:30.454 And hopefully I get twenty more before the 00:54:30.494 --> 00:54:31.295 end of the year. 00:54:32.096 --> 00:54:34.516 That would be the goal at the end 00:54:34.536 --> 00:54:38.079 of the day for me from a creator 00:54:38.099 --> 00:54:41.340 standpoint and supporting the guys like 00:54:41.380 --> 00:54:43.081 y'all who are passionate about what y'all 00:54:43.121 --> 00:54:45.862 do and giving y'all a platform to come 00:54:46.862 --> 00:54:47.103 and 00:54:48.219 --> 00:54:48.380 You know, 00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:51.302 tell your story and hopefully get this 00:54:51.362 --> 00:54:52.782 story made for y'all. 00:54:53.902 --> 00:54:55.603 So I mean, absolutely. 00:54:55.704 --> 00:54:58.545 I can understand how important that is. 00:54:58.724 --> 00:55:00.927 And if I can do twenty more this 00:55:00.947 --> 00:55:02.547 year, I'll do twenty. 00:55:02.686 --> 00:55:03.248 I'll do thirty. 00:55:03.907 --> 00:55:05.568 So I know exactly how it feels. 00:55:05.628 --> 00:55:07.929 But when I was marketing and advertising 00:55:08.570 --> 00:55:10.210 for you and I remember I hit you 00:55:10.251 --> 00:55:10.831 up, I was like, hey, 00:55:10.851 --> 00:55:11.972 do you think you could send me over 00:55:12.012 --> 00:55:15.034 the lucky devil logo? 00:55:15.074 --> 00:55:15.454 And you're like, 00:55:16.373 --> 00:55:17.195 I'll have my wife do it. 00:55:18.300 --> 00:55:21.161 and like i felt like i felt like 00:55:21.201 --> 00:55:24.103 i put the sentence together i hit put 00:55:24.123 --> 00:55:26.643 the period hit send and you replied badge 00:55:26.664 --> 00:55:28.505 like my wife is sending it now and 00:55:28.525 --> 00:55:30.126 then i pulled up my email and it 00:55:30.146 --> 00:55:33.206 was like right there i was like damn 00:55:34.907 --> 00:55:36.748 i was like that's impressive i'm like all 00:55:36.768 --> 00:55:38.590 right cool now i got everything i need 00:55:39.050 --> 00:55:41.090 to market this and to advertise it in 00:55:41.150 --> 00:55:42.931 the moment i'm putting them up people are 00:55:42.992 --> 00:55:44.293 like outpouring just like 00:55:44.873 --> 00:55:47.014 Lights piling in like, hey, 00:55:47.074 --> 00:55:47.755 I'm going to be there. 00:55:47.775 --> 00:55:48.456 I'm going to be there. 00:55:48.896 --> 00:55:51.400 So y'all definitely have a great fan base 00:55:51.820 --> 00:55:53.382 built around y'all, whether it's friends, 00:55:53.922 --> 00:55:54.503 family, 00:55:54.543 --> 00:55:56.385 just people want to see something new and 00:55:56.545 --> 00:55:59.407 different that doesn't have TNA in it, 00:55:59.568 --> 00:56:00.528 which is really cool. 00:56:02.570 --> 00:56:04.152 Well, there's still room for TNA. 00:56:04.172 --> 00:56:04.353 You can... 00:56:07.172 --> 00:56:09.034 You can squeeze in some TNA, I'm sure, 00:56:09.693 --> 00:56:12.614 but let's not let TNA be what all 00:56:12.655 --> 00:56:13.815 Kickstarters are about. 00:56:13.835 --> 00:56:14.856 It's going to be an Easter egg. 00:56:14.876 --> 00:56:15.996 You're going to have to look for it, 00:56:16.097 --> 00:56:20.097 but it's going to be in there. 00:56:20.117 --> 00:56:22.278 There's going to be a tree in the 00:56:22.318 --> 00:56:24.000 swamp that looks like a niggie lady. 00:56:24.019 --> 00:56:24.239 I like it. 00:56:24.260 --> 00:56:29.141 I like it. 00:56:29.362 --> 00:56:30.541 Oh, I'm not even mad at it, 00:56:30.561 --> 00:56:31.262 to be fair. 00:56:31.443 --> 00:56:33.903 I've seen crazier cameos in books, so... 00:56:37.875 --> 00:56:40.195 But so I know you're on the road 00:56:40.235 --> 00:56:41.235 six days a week. 00:56:42.016 --> 00:56:44.336 And so how has that been like balancing 00:56:44.356 --> 00:56:46.657 the creative and the business sides of 00:56:46.697 --> 00:56:46.958 this? 00:56:46.978 --> 00:56:47.458 Because I mean, 00:56:47.518 --> 00:56:50.599 essentially you made Lucky Devil Comets to 00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:53.940 be the brand pushing out the plague. 00:56:54.019 --> 00:56:56.159 I know that's not an easy thing to 00:56:56.179 --> 00:56:58.400 do to be on the road six days 00:56:58.440 --> 00:56:58.840 a week. 00:57:00.043 --> 00:57:02.882 And also taking care of the side hustle 00:57:02.963 --> 00:57:03.483 as well. 00:57:03.583 --> 00:57:04.384 So how has that been? 00:57:04.423 --> 00:57:04.563 Like, 00:57:04.603 --> 00:57:07.724 how are you managing that from a time 00:57:07.764 --> 00:57:10.485 perspective? 00:57:10.565 --> 00:57:12.144 It's definitely got its pros and cons. 00:57:12.224 --> 00:57:12.465 I mean, 00:57:12.545 --> 00:57:14.005 some days are just frustrating because I 00:57:14.025 --> 00:57:15.766 just want to park the truck, go home, 00:57:16.146 --> 00:57:17.666 write the story because I've just got all 00:57:17.686 --> 00:57:18.365 these ideas. 00:57:19.365 --> 00:57:20.246 I got to make sure that I don't 00:57:20.306 --> 00:57:20.907 forget them. 00:57:21.847 --> 00:57:23.226 But at the same time, 00:57:23.266 --> 00:57:23.847 being on the road, 00:57:23.867 --> 00:57:25.487 it gives me a lot of time to 00:57:25.547 --> 00:57:26.447 think about the story. 00:57:27.628 --> 00:57:29.447 Do you have a recorder for the road? 00:57:30.353 --> 00:57:32.353 no what i do really is i'll just 00:57:32.414 --> 00:57:34.255 play like a movie in my head like 00:57:34.275 --> 00:57:36.735 i'll just picture the plague and just play 00:57:36.755 --> 00:57:38.077 out the whole scenario of what i want 00:57:38.097 --> 00:57:39.257 to happen and then it just kind of 00:57:39.277 --> 00:57:41.157 sticks in my mind yes i mean you're 00:57:41.177 --> 00:57:42.297 like you got a phone right you got 00:57:42.318 --> 00:57:44.278 a cell phone you just hit the record 00:57:44.298 --> 00:57:47.360 you start talking into it with ideas yeah 00:57:47.380 --> 00:57:49.302 i feel like uh my husband he he's 00:57:49.342 --> 00:57:51.682 like he's got like a vision and he's 00:57:51.802 --> 00:57:53.784 like very like he's really good at like 00:57:53.824 --> 00:57:55.164 imagining and stuff like that so i think 00:57:55.184 --> 00:57:57.045 that like because he's watching like a 00:57:57.085 --> 00:57:58.826 movie it kind of ingrains in his like 00:57:58.846 --> 00:57:59.186 memory 00:58:00.672 --> 00:58:02.713 I'm a very visual learner. 00:58:02.773 --> 00:58:04.072 I'm like the opposite. 00:58:04.193 --> 00:58:06.094 I have no imagination. 00:58:06.273 --> 00:58:08.735 That's why I used to like to draw 00:58:08.755 --> 00:58:12.478 with references because it's just so hard 00:58:12.498 --> 00:58:13.458 for me to come up with things, 00:58:13.478 --> 00:58:16.179 which is why I'm kind of struggling. 00:58:18.219 --> 00:58:19.920 You drew the background for this t-shirt, 00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:21.021 so I don't want to hear you say 00:58:21.121 --> 00:58:21.442 it. 00:58:21.742 --> 00:58:22.503 You're good, girl. 00:58:22.822 --> 00:58:23.262 You're good. 00:58:23.282 --> 00:58:24.523 I don't know what you're talking about. 00:58:26.458 --> 00:58:27.820 yeah i find that if you tell me 00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:30.181 something i'll never remember it but if i 00:58:30.202 --> 00:58:31.342 see it and i have it in my 00:58:31.402 --> 00:58:33.864 mind for some reason i can just remember 00:58:34.164 --> 00:58:36.405 it yeah seeing it and then doing i 00:58:36.706 --> 00:58:39.188 i will never forget i don't know why 00:58:39.288 --> 00:58:41.650 it's always been that way but but if 00:58:41.670 --> 00:58:42.871 i read something or if you tell me 00:58:42.891 --> 00:58:44.431 your name like that's why when you told 00:58:44.472 --> 00:58:46.032 me your name earlier when i asked i 00:58:46.072 --> 00:58:49.175 was like shit i'm horrible with names i 00:58:49.195 --> 00:58:50.275 hope i remember that i know you look 00:58:50.295 --> 00:58:50.596 pretty bad too 00:58:53.556 --> 00:58:56.358 so thankfully i remembered but your 00:58:56.398 --> 00:58:58.159 conscious is back and he's saying he sees 00:58:58.219 --> 00:58:59.878 your huge potential here and he says 00:58:59.900 --> 00:59:01.719 you're talented and i'm not going to 00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:06.202 disagree with that statement so and kelvin 00:59:06.222 --> 00:59:08.344 says proportionate to the body please and 00:59:11.465 --> 00:59:13.427 things i don't know where we went wrong 00:59:13.467 --> 00:59:17.789 but it's all about tna tonight i guess 00:59:17.909 --> 00:59:21.090 and why not right it's still the weekend 00:59:21.110 --> 00:59:22.711 uh 00:59:27.298 --> 00:59:29.980 All right. 00:59:30.019 --> 00:59:31.800 So how far ahead? 00:59:31.980 --> 00:59:33.780 I know you've said in your head you 00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:36.181 have this, you know, 00:59:36.240 --> 00:59:38.721 hundred issue comic book planned out. 00:59:39.382 --> 00:59:40.481 But realistically, 00:59:40.521 --> 00:59:42.061 how far do you think you are in 00:59:42.101 --> 00:59:45.003 that story from like if you could print 00:59:45.023 --> 00:59:45.762 it all today, 00:59:46.003 --> 00:59:48.163 how many issues do you think creatively 00:59:48.782 --> 00:59:51.583 you have ready to go? 00:59:51.623 --> 00:59:52.963 So in total, I have a hundred. 00:59:52.983 --> 00:59:55.005 I felt like a hundred was just a 00:59:55.045 --> 00:59:56.144 nice clean number. 00:59:57.414 --> 00:59:59.175 So I wrote it in such a way 00:59:59.195 --> 01:00:02.577 where it's kind of open-ended where a 01:00:02.617 --> 01:00:04.278 hundred is kind of where the story ends, 01:00:05.099 --> 01:00:06.661 but there's room for the plague to kind 01:00:06.681 --> 01:00:07.161 of return. 01:00:07.601 --> 01:00:08.641 If I did want to go past a 01:00:08.681 --> 01:00:10.003 hundred issues. 01:00:10.963 --> 01:00:11.923 Well, I think with the name, 01:00:11.963 --> 01:00:12.824 like the plague, 01:00:12.903 --> 01:00:14.224 it's kind of like a never, 01:00:15.425 --> 01:00:16.887 you can't ever really get rid of it. 01:00:17.266 --> 01:00:19.487 It could go dormant, but it comes back. 01:00:20.449 --> 01:00:20.568 Yeah. 01:00:20.588 --> 01:00:21.248 That's a good point. 01:00:21.889 --> 01:00:22.210 And I mean, 01:00:22.250 --> 01:00:24.751 I've got plans for spinoff characters and 01:00:24.951 --> 01:00:25.911 side titles and, 01:00:26.724 --> 01:00:27.264 Yeah. 01:00:27.304 --> 01:00:27.644 Maybe. 01:00:28.346 --> 01:00:31.789 Do you mean like how many issues maybe 01:00:31.889 --> 01:00:32.748 are like storyboarded? 01:00:32.768 --> 01:00:33.289 Like if we. 01:00:33.869 --> 01:00:34.150 Yeah. 01:00:34.210 --> 01:00:34.471 Yeah. 01:00:34.530 --> 01:00:34.871 Yeah. 01:00:35.811 --> 01:00:36.072 Yeah. 01:00:36.172 --> 01:00:38.353 How many do you. 01:00:38.434 --> 01:00:39.394 I'll give you a percentage. 01:00:39.496 --> 01:00:41.737 I'd say it's about forty five percent 01:00:41.757 --> 01:00:42.177 complete. 01:00:42.818 --> 01:00:42.898 OK. 01:00:43.398 --> 01:00:44.360 No, that's a great number. 01:00:44.500 --> 01:00:44.820 I mean, 01:00:44.900 --> 01:00:47.603 we're looking at almost forty five plus 01:00:47.682 --> 01:00:48.423 issues right there. 01:00:48.503 --> 01:00:50.985 So that's that's a good number. 01:00:52.150 --> 01:00:52.510 Yeah, I mean, 01:00:52.590 --> 01:00:55.172 I've got a pretty detailed in terms of 01:00:55.192 --> 01:00:56.552 like mapping out the story of what I 01:00:56.572 --> 01:00:57.012 want to do. 01:00:58.072 --> 01:01:00.215 But I felt like writing it in totality 01:01:01.315 --> 01:01:02.876 would give me that opportunity to go back 01:01:02.896 --> 01:01:04.737 and tweak things and refine things and 01:01:05.456 --> 01:01:07.418 allow things to kind of come full circle. 01:01:07.438 --> 01:01:09.579 No, absolutely. 01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:09.880 Yeah. 01:01:12.139 --> 01:01:14.260 I like that. 01:01:14.460 --> 01:01:15.802 When we look at it from a realistic 01:01:15.822 --> 01:01:16.242 standpoint, 01:01:16.262 --> 01:01:19.065 if you are with Image or a DC 01:01:19.144 --> 01:01:22.128 or a Marvel, a Boom Studios, a Dynamite, 01:01:22.788 --> 01:01:25.030 the best you would probably get is six 01:01:25.050 --> 01:01:25.851 to twelve issues. 01:01:27.231 --> 01:01:27.652 Maybe. 01:01:28.132 --> 01:01:29.313 That's just how they operate. 01:01:30.715 --> 01:01:33.056 So anything that really goes over that is 01:01:33.157 --> 01:01:36.619 really just phenomenal because you don't 01:01:36.739 --> 01:01:38.521 see it often and the fact that you 01:01:38.601 --> 01:01:39.081 have 01:01:39.898 --> 01:01:40.277 Right now, 01:01:40.358 --> 01:01:42.300 you could drop forty-five issues. 01:01:42.940 --> 01:01:44.181 It is absolutely amazing. 01:01:44.742 --> 01:01:46.822 So, I amend that. 01:01:46.842 --> 01:01:47.583 I applaud it. 01:01:48.724 --> 01:01:52.288 I love to hear it. 01:01:52.307 --> 01:01:53.507 And you answered my next question, 01:01:53.527 --> 01:01:55.670 which is, will this, like, 01:01:55.690 --> 01:01:56.971 with the storylines you have planned, 01:01:57.070 --> 01:01:59.632 will it expand the plague and maybe into 01:01:59.672 --> 01:02:01.994 some other supernatural corners? 01:02:02.976 --> 01:02:04.876 You got room for ghosts and goblins, 01:02:04.996 --> 01:02:06.858 and you got room for all that? 01:02:06.958 --> 01:02:08.420 Or do you already have that planned out? 01:02:09.612 --> 01:02:11.092 I don't want to give away too much, 01:02:11.193 --> 01:02:12.653 but there's a lot going on. 01:02:14.315 --> 01:02:16.496 And there's one for spinoff characters and 01:02:17.197 --> 01:02:18.697 different types of stories that I want to 01:02:18.717 --> 01:02:18.938 tell. 01:02:20.018 --> 01:02:20.840 No, that's cool, dude. 01:02:21.579 --> 01:02:24.141 So in the process of doing the plague, 01:02:24.161 --> 01:02:25.882 do you think you'll pause the plague at 01:02:25.963 --> 01:02:27.505 any point and go, hey, 01:02:27.525 --> 01:02:28.786 I want to give you a story about 01:02:28.826 --> 01:02:29.806 a side character? 01:02:32.407 --> 01:02:33.909 Or do you think you'll just go the 01:02:33.949 --> 01:02:35.429 plague straight through and then maybe 01:02:35.489 --> 01:02:36.030 spinoffs? 01:02:37.115 --> 01:02:38.617 I was thinking more in terms of using 01:02:38.637 --> 01:02:40.038 the plague as kind of like a launching 01:02:40.077 --> 01:02:42.239 pad where, you know, 01:02:42.259 --> 01:02:43.760 like those old Marvel stories, 01:02:45.121 --> 01:02:46.621 they kind of use a popular title like 01:02:46.641 --> 01:02:48.322 the Fantastic Four or something to 01:02:48.422 --> 01:02:50.804 introduce another character. 01:02:51.385 --> 01:02:52.164 No, absolutely. 01:02:52.184 --> 01:02:52.766 Yeah. 01:02:52.786 --> 01:02:54.447 You always see that first appearance in 01:02:54.487 --> 01:02:55.947 somebody else's title. 01:02:57.277 --> 01:02:58.358 Yeah, yeah. 01:02:58.378 --> 01:02:59.458 Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. 01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.559 So that's kind of the idea I wanted 01:03:02.798 --> 01:03:04.519 to run with was try to do like 01:03:04.539 --> 01:03:07.800 a very classic comic book kind of 01:03:07.900 --> 01:03:08.400 aesthetic. 01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:10.701 I mean, even with the play's real name, 01:03:10.740 --> 01:03:12.382 it's Diego Diaz, you know, 01:03:12.422 --> 01:03:13.782 running with that theme of like Peter 01:03:13.822 --> 01:03:15.161 Parker, Matt Murdock. 01:03:15.663 --> 01:03:16.362 Yeah, but I like that. 01:03:16.402 --> 01:03:17.043 I'm not gonna lie. 01:03:17.063 --> 01:03:17.143 Yeah. 01:03:18.182 --> 01:03:20.967 I love that classic comic book kind of 01:03:21.226 --> 01:03:21.606 vibe. 01:03:22.307 --> 01:03:25.192 It's one of the coolest tropes in comic 01:03:25.211 --> 01:03:26.954 book that kind of really isn't talked 01:03:26.994 --> 01:03:28.056 about very often. 01:03:29.297 --> 01:03:31.079 And even when you talk Daredevil, 01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:31.920 I mean... 01:03:33.210 --> 01:03:33.630 It's there. 01:03:33.911 --> 01:03:34.851 It's got a ring to it. 01:03:34.891 --> 01:03:36.032 It's got a charm to it. 01:03:36.411 --> 01:03:38.952 So I wanted to really lean into that 01:03:39.273 --> 01:03:41.092 classic eighties, nineties kind of, 01:03:41.293 --> 01:03:43.554 even if it veered off into cheesy 01:03:43.574 --> 01:03:45.014 territory, you know, I'm okay with that. 01:03:45.034 --> 01:03:45.675 I love cheesy. 01:03:46.855 --> 01:03:47.355 I was going to say, 01:03:47.375 --> 01:03:48.414 that's the point really. 01:03:48.454 --> 01:03:51.115 I mean, I think a lot of, 01:03:52.215 --> 01:03:54.456 a lot of comic books take themselves too 01:03:54.496 --> 01:03:57.117 seriously and they don't give you kind of 01:03:57.137 --> 01:03:59.398 that. 01:03:59.518 --> 01:04:01.418 They've done away with the cheesy and, 01:04:01.963 --> 01:04:03.824 But I still say there's plenty of room 01:04:03.864 --> 01:04:05.965 for cheesy in comic books. 01:04:07.045 --> 01:04:08.867 Some of my favorite things are the 01:04:09.047 --> 01:04:11.668 one-liners from whether it's a villain or 01:04:11.688 --> 01:04:12.528 a hero. 01:04:12.929 --> 01:04:14.710 Just when they give that one-liner, 01:04:14.750 --> 01:04:17.112 that quick quip that you're not expecting 01:04:17.152 --> 01:04:17.612 from them, 01:04:18.092 --> 01:04:20.333 that's some of my favorite parts of comic 01:04:20.373 --> 01:04:20.733 books. 01:04:20.893 --> 01:04:23.135 It's just those fun little quirky 01:04:23.255 --> 01:04:25.215 one-liners that you have to sit there and 01:04:25.255 --> 01:04:26.436 stare at for a minute and go... 01:04:29.318 --> 01:04:30.219 Man, that was good. 01:04:30.278 --> 01:04:31.059 I like that. 01:04:31.579 --> 01:04:33.360 You'll find yourself saying it too. 01:04:34.222 --> 01:04:35.603 I can't get enough of those one-liners. 01:04:35.782 --> 01:04:36.744 I always think about Arnold 01:04:36.764 --> 01:04:37.324 Schwarzenegger. 01:04:37.364 --> 01:04:39.266 He's got like a million one-liners. 01:04:39.945 --> 01:04:40.306 Oh, dude, 01:04:40.326 --> 01:04:43.128 that dude's a library of one-liners. 01:04:46.717 --> 01:04:47.416 yeah i mean i i love that kind 01:04:47.436 --> 01:04:48.257 of like cheesy campy yeah almost puns and 01:04:48.277 --> 01:04:49.038 like yeah or witty humor too sometimes 01:04:49.057 --> 01:04:49.818 like sometimes you could say something 01:04:49.838 --> 01:04:57.503 like that i think that's that's something 01:04:57.603 --> 01:04:59.384 spider-man is really good at it's that 01:04:59.503 --> 01:05:02.706 witty like fun humor where he's not trying 01:05:02.746 --> 01:05:05.646 to insult you but he's insulting you but 01:05:05.686 --> 01:05:07.768 the way he says it it's like i 01:05:07.789 --> 01:05:09.108 don't know if i want to be insulted 01:05:09.148 --> 01:05:11.110 right now or just be like this dude's 01:05:11.150 --> 01:05:12.952 whipping my butt and he's also like 01:05:13.851 --> 01:05:17.072 backhand complimenting me with uh and 01:05:17.112 --> 01:05:18.652 making fun of me at the same time 01:05:18.733 --> 01:05:21.614 so so i like that kind of stuff 01:05:21.653 --> 01:05:24.414 man so gotta ask though if you your 01:05:24.454 --> 01:05:27.576 character the plague could collab with any 01:05:27.795 --> 01:05:30.496 other comic book character right now what 01:05:30.516 --> 01:05:33.036 would you like to explore it could be 01:05:33.157 --> 01:05:36.398 any character i don't care what branch or 01:05:36.538 --> 01:05:40.119 what comic it is just any character 01:05:42.458 --> 01:05:43.478 I got to say Swamp Thing. 01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:43.878 I mean, 01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:46.460 I think it already takes place in the 01:05:46.521 --> 01:05:46.922 swamp. 01:05:47.161 --> 01:05:49.202 They're both very kind of like solitary, 01:05:49.523 --> 01:05:50.583 isolated characters. 01:05:50.704 --> 01:05:52.106 I think that'd be a really interesting 01:05:52.626 --> 01:05:53.586 dynamic between them. 01:05:54.507 --> 01:05:56.829 I don't know how much I love the 01:05:56.929 --> 01:06:00.132 Swamp Thing. 01:06:00.172 --> 01:06:01.373 And your conscience won't spawn. 01:06:03.806 --> 01:06:05.706 spawn would be cool so i would be 01:06:05.726 --> 01:06:07.788 cool but there's something about swamp 01:06:07.807 --> 01:06:11.269 thing that i absolutely since i was a 01:06:11.449 --> 01:06:14.592 child when i would watch the swamp thing 01:06:15.072 --> 01:06:17.893 on tv at night with my granny when 01:06:17.952 --> 01:06:19.213 i should have been sleeping but i'm 01:06:19.233 --> 01:06:21.614 sitting there watching swamp thing and 01:06:21.635 --> 01:06:23.556 then when i found the comic book reading 01:06:23.596 --> 01:06:25.336 the comic book some garth dennis and that 01:06:25.356 --> 01:06:26.018 kind of stuff 01:06:26.878 --> 01:06:29.440 and now i know um something is killing 01:06:29.460 --> 01:06:31.641 the children is doing a one-shot crossover 01:06:31.661 --> 01:06:33.623 with swamp thing called swamp thing is 01:06:33.664 --> 01:06:37.206 killing the children and i just absolutely 01:06:37.246 --> 01:06:39.528 cannot wait for that anytime there's new 01:06:39.588 --> 01:06:43.070 swamp thing i'm all about it yeah i 01:06:43.112 --> 01:06:46.835 think they're doing a continuation of uh 01:06:46.894 --> 01:06:48.456 the swamp thing from the eighties i think 01:06:48.496 --> 01:06:50.518 that that storyline they're gonna do a 01:06:50.637 --> 01:06:52.498 one-off or continuation so i'm looking 01:06:52.539 --> 01:06:54.800 forward to that too i am too i 01:06:54.840 --> 01:06:55.262 like i said 01:06:56.148 --> 01:07:00.731 he like he's reached god status within the 01:07:00.771 --> 01:07:03.893 dc world and i'm absolutely here for the 01:07:03.914 --> 01:07:05.795 guy can literally travel between worlds 01:07:07.034 --> 01:07:10.277 through the world so i mean how freaking 01:07:10.297 --> 01:07:12.599 cool is that so i'm all about swamp 01:07:12.619 --> 01:07:14.400 thing and plus swamp thing gave me my 01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:16.780 other one of my other favorite characters 01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:19.802 with john constantine so i'm not mad 01:07:20.942 --> 01:07:21.842 In case you didn't wonder, 01:07:22.222 --> 01:07:24.224 the only real DC stuff I like is 01:07:24.264 --> 01:07:26.106 like the darker, greedier stuff. 01:07:26.206 --> 01:07:27.766 Anything with the magic Justice League 01:07:27.806 --> 01:07:30.309 Dark and that kind of stuff within DC 01:07:30.329 --> 01:07:31.989 are like my favorite things. 01:07:32.030 --> 01:07:34.030 The DC Vertigo days from the eighties and 01:07:34.090 --> 01:07:34.632 nineties. 01:07:35.452 --> 01:07:36.253 That's my jams. 01:07:36.273 --> 01:07:37.293 Yeah. 01:07:37.833 --> 01:07:39.594 Love it. 01:07:39.635 --> 01:07:40.576 You can have Batman. 01:07:41.496 --> 01:07:42.597 You can have Superman. 01:07:42.978 --> 01:07:44.539 I like Wonder Woman because she led 01:07:44.579 --> 01:07:46.519 Justice League Dark for a little while. 01:07:47.101 --> 01:07:48.581 So she can stay on my cool book. 01:07:49.536 --> 01:07:51.998 But I could care less for it otherwise, 01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:53.400 unless it's a Justice League Dark. 01:07:56.922 --> 01:08:00.505 So what do you want your legacy to 01:08:00.545 --> 01:08:04.028 be as an indie creator for when people 01:08:04.068 --> 01:08:08.333 look back at this series? 01:08:08.393 --> 01:08:09.554 Ooh, it's a hard one. 01:08:09.733 --> 01:08:12.456 Yeah, I think about this one. 01:08:12.516 --> 01:08:12.697 You know, 01:08:12.717 --> 01:08:14.597 I think just creating something that's 01:08:14.637 --> 01:08:15.059 timeless. 01:08:16.823 --> 01:08:18.224 that people can kind of look back on 01:08:18.264 --> 01:08:18.743 and say, you know, 01:08:18.783 --> 01:08:20.045 I can relate to this or I can 01:08:20.064 --> 01:08:21.085 relate to this character. 01:08:22.286 --> 01:08:24.287 There's similar things going on in my life 01:08:24.447 --> 01:08:25.867 or, you know, 01:08:26.068 --> 01:08:28.309 I think for me growing up, 01:08:28.448 --> 01:08:30.689 comics were not just about like the flashy 01:08:31.350 --> 01:08:33.171 action and the spandex and all that 01:08:33.310 --> 01:08:34.070 colorful stuff. 01:08:34.211 --> 01:08:35.712 I hope it wasn't about the spandex there, 01:08:35.771 --> 01:08:36.011 buddy. 01:08:40.048 --> 01:08:41.729 But yeah, for me, there was always like, 01:08:42.310 --> 01:08:43.930 kind of like a deeper message with the 01:08:43.970 --> 01:08:44.449 characters. 01:08:44.630 --> 01:08:44.829 I mean, 01:08:44.850 --> 01:08:47.011 we have Spider-Man where they kind of 01:08:47.051 --> 01:08:49.211 instill that idea that with great power 01:08:49.251 --> 01:08:50.532 comes great responsibility. 01:08:51.671 --> 01:08:53.811 And you have Captain America and Superman 01:08:53.851 --> 01:08:54.832 and what they stand for. 01:08:54.853 --> 01:08:56.212 And for me, 01:08:56.273 --> 01:08:58.974 I'm a sucker for those messages, you know? 01:08:59.854 --> 01:09:00.673 And with the plague, 01:09:00.713 --> 01:09:02.014 I know he kind of comes off as 01:09:02.054 --> 01:09:04.135 an anti-hero, but at his core, 01:09:05.095 --> 01:09:06.875 I kind of see him as more of 01:09:06.895 --> 01:09:08.555 a traditional hero that stands for 01:09:08.595 --> 01:09:08.935 something. 01:09:09.863 --> 01:09:10.585 I like it, dude. 01:09:10.685 --> 01:09:11.664 I like it a lot, man. 01:09:13.786 --> 01:09:15.186 Before we start winding down, 01:09:16.328 --> 01:09:17.929 give me your last three comic books that 01:09:17.969 --> 01:09:19.448 you've bought and read. 01:09:22.150 --> 01:09:22.331 Well, 01:09:22.371 --> 01:09:25.132 recently I actually got the Swamp Thing 01:09:25.193 --> 01:09:28.654 Compendium from my cousin. 01:09:29.095 --> 01:09:29.975 Yeah, some Alan Moore. 01:09:29.994 --> 01:09:32.015 Yeah, I love this thing. 01:09:32.056 --> 01:09:33.157 Dude, I got the same one. 01:09:33.277 --> 01:09:34.438 I absolutely love it. 01:09:35.546 --> 01:09:37.686 The artwork, the storytelling, the pacing, 01:09:37.726 --> 01:09:38.886 it's just such a great story. 01:09:38.907 --> 01:09:40.307 And Alan Moore just released a book, too, 01:09:40.328 --> 01:09:41.588 that I think you would like as well. 01:09:42.048 --> 01:09:42.868 You should check it out. 01:09:44.789 --> 01:09:45.069 Yeah, 01:09:45.149 --> 01:09:47.551 I think his run of Swamp Thing was 01:09:47.631 --> 01:09:47.951 awesome. 01:09:48.110 --> 01:09:48.832 It was incredible. 01:09:49.891 --> 01:09:50.252 To me, 01:09:50.431 --> 01:09:52.033 I don't think another creator on him can 01:09:52.273 --> 01:09:53.453 light the candle the way he did on 01:09:53.474 --> 01:09:53.873 that one. 01:09:53.894 --> 01:09:55.635 So I'm right there with you. 01:09:56.135 --> 01:09:56.795 Come on, two more. 01:09:58.176 --> 01:09:58.855 What was the other one? 01:10:01.041 --> 01:10:01.220 You know, 01:10:01.240 --> 01:10:02.801 the problem with me is I'll just buy 01:10:02.822 --> 01:10:04.101 them and just put them on the shelf. 01:10:04.301 --> 01:10:05.242 It's okay. 01:10:05.301 --> 01:10:06.462 What were the last ones you bought? 01:10:06.983 --> 01:10:08.002 What were the last ones you bought? 01:10:08.502 --> 01:10:08.983 Let's see. 01:10:09.163 --> 01:10:10.384 I got them around here somewhere. 01:10:13.324 --> 01:10:15.966 Oh, there we go. 01:10:15.985 --> 01:10:18.025 So besides for Swamp King, these two. 01:10:18.126 --> 01:10:20.846 Okay. 01:10:20.926 --> 01:10:21.247 Okay. 01:10:21.707 --> 01:10:23.167 And I actually got these from Valley 01:10:23.207 --> 01:10:23.587 Village. 01:10:26.048 --> 01:10:27.689 Do you guys have value village in the 01:10:27.710 --> 01:10:28.470 States? 01:10:28.489 --> 01:10:28.970 I don't even know. 01:10:28.989 --> 01:10:29.569 So we don't. 01:10:30.029 --> 01:10:31.871 We have a place called Sackett and Charles 01:10:31.890 --> 01:10:32.490 that does, 01:10:34.652 --> 01:10:36.193 they do current runs of comic books, 01:10:36.212 --> 01:10:37.932 but they do a lot of back issue 01:10:37.972 --> 01:10:40.073 stuff where you can go and buy, 01:10:40.474 --> 01:10:42.074 like I like to go there sometimes and 01:10:42.114 --> 01:10:45.775 buy like a mystery box of indie comics 01:10:45.815 --> 01:10:46.957 just to see what's in there. 01:10:47.657 --> 01:10:48.756 I mean, I've gotten some fifty, 01:10:48.796 --> 01:10:50.997 sixty dollar books out of those and I've 01:10:51.057 --> 01:10:52.998 only paid twenty five dollars for the box. 01:10:53.538 --> 01:10:55.039 So those are fun to do sometimes. 01:10:56.122 --> 01:10:59.884 um yeah your conscious said goodwill does 01:10:59.923 --> 01:11:04.527 as well sometimes uh me personally um i'm 01:11:04.567 --> 01:11:06.988 great friends with my local comic shop i 01:11:07.028 --> 01:11:08.729 love buying local and supporting small 01:11:08.849 --> 01:11:13.891 business um so and he gives a me 01:11:13.931 --> 01:11:15.932 my old man retiree discount for the 01:11:15.953 --> 01:11:16.474 military 01:11:17.613 --> 01:11:20.962 so and i read like a lot of 01:11:21.023 --> 01:11:24.693 comic books um i really enjoyed aubrey 01:11:24.733 --> 01:11:25.956 sitterson's free planet 01:11:27.256 --> 01:11:28.356 Something is Killing the Children. 01:11:28.396 --> 01:11:29.837 Anything that has James Tynion, 01:11:29.877 --> 01:11:31.818 the fourth name on it, World Tree, 01:11:32.559 --> 01:11:33.878 Something is Killing the Children, 01:11:33.918 --> 01:11:34.918 House of Slaughter. 01:11:36.220 --> 01:11:38.279 I know Grimm is getting ready to end 01:11:38.420 --> 01:11:39.439 at Boom Studios. 01:11:39.539 --> 01:11:41.161 Issue Twenty-Five is getting ready to come 01:11:41.220 --> 01:11:42.041 out here soon, 01:11:42.541 --> 01:11:44.021 which will close out that series. 01:11:44.082 --> 01:11:45.381 I'm a huge fan of that. 01:11:45.402 --> 01:11:47.542 I'm a huge fan of indie comics, 01:11:47.582 --> 01:11:48.523 in case you didn't notice. 01:11:49.002 --> 01:11:52.384 I did try reading Absolute Flash just 01:11:52.404 --> 01:11:54.744 because it's Wally West and I wanted to 01:11:54.805 --> 01:11:55.864 give Wally some love. 01:11:56.872 --> 01:11:59.153 But after about eight issues, 01:11:59.233 --> 01:11:59.854 I was just like, 01:12:00.793 --> 01:12:02.994 kind of done with this absolute universe. 01:12:03.015 --> 01:12:05.796 It's cool, but kind of done with it. 01:12:05.917 --> 01:12:06.396 Yeah. 01:12:06.476 --> 01:12:07.398 I mean, me personally, 01:12:07.457 --> 01:12:08.637 I'm all about the classics. 01:12:08.978 --> 01:12:10.679 I mean, like I said, 01:12:10.719 --> 01:12:12.039 I feel like in the eighties and nineties, 01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:14.220 those characters were just perfected. 01:12:14.280 --> 01:12:15.622 You know, they were just fleshed out. 01:12:16.721 --> 01:12:16.902 I mean, 01:12:16.943 --> 01:12:18.103 those characters they've been around for 01:12:18.162 --> 01:12:20.684 so long that everything has been explored 01:12:20.703 --> 01:12:21.045 with them. 01:12:21.385 --> 01:12:21.725 So, I mean, 01:12:21.744 --> 01:12:23.506 they just constantly get retconned and, 01:12:24.497 --> 01:12:25.358 But for me, 01:12:25.377 --> 01:12:26.618 I never get sick of going back and 01:12:26.639 --> 01:12:28.500 reading those old back issues. 01:12:29.280 --> 01:12:31.682 And that's why I have the trade paperbacks 01:12:31.722 --> 01:12:33.805 and the compendiums of Swamp Thing and 01:12:33.864 --> 01:12:35.766 Hillblazer and that kind of stuff. 01:12:37.887 --> 01:12:39.289 But for the most part, man, 01:12:39.750 --> 01:12:41.712 I'm such a huge indie comic guy. 01:12:41.752 --> 01:12:44.394 And that's what I love about doing these 01:12:44.413 --> 01:12:46.314 types of interviews tonight is I get to 01:12:46.336 --> 01:12:48.056 talk to indie creators everywhere. 01:12:49.601 --> 01:12:50.462 the sole source. 01:12:50.481 --> 01:12:51.283 You know what I'm saying? 01:12:51.962 --> 01:12:53.144 You're not a part of Image. 01:12:53.163 --> 01:12:55.145 You're not a part of Boom or Dynamite. 01:12:55.725 --> 01:12:57.746 You're simply Lucky Devil Comets. 01:12:57.765 --> 01:12:58.586 You're Stiles. 01:12:58.605 --> 01:12:59.327 You're Nicole. 01:12:59.846 --> 01:13:01.707 And you're trying to put something out for 01:13:01.728 --> 01:13:02.207 the people. 01:13:05.829 --> 01:13:07.530 But before we close it out tonight, 01:13:08.470 --> 01:13:10.752 tell everybody where they can follow Lucky 01:13:10.792 --> 01:13:14.154 Devil Comets and when the Kickstarter will 01:13:14.173 --> 01:13:16.414 be dropping. 01:13:16.435 --> 01:13:18.336 Kickstarter is October twenty first. 01:13:19.746 --> 01:13:21.247 And that's two days, people. 01:13:21.347 --> 01:13:22.229 Two days. 01:13:22.809 --> 01:13:24.550 Go to Kickstarter right now. 01:13:24.990 --> 01:13:26.171 Type in the plague. 01:13:26.612 --> 01:13:29.253 Hit remind me or notify me and it 01:13:29.274 --> 01:13:30.756 will notify you on launch. 01:13:31.176 --> 01:13:32.296 That way you can be one of the 01:13:32.337 --> 01:13:35.238 first ones to get in on the plague. 01:13:35.498 --> 01:13:37.720 I know I got my notify me button 01:13:37.981 --> 01:13:39.462 pushed. 01:13:39.483 --> 01:13:40.203 Continue on. 01:13:40.243 --> 01:13:40.684 I'm sorry. 01:13:41.618 --> 01:13:43.279 Yeah, please check out the Kickstarter. 01:13:43.298 --> 01:13:44.640 We've got a lot of cool stuff on 01:13:44.659 --> 01:13:44.899 there. 01:13:45.300 --> 01:13:46.520 We've got some stretch goals. 01:13:46.541 --> 01:13:47.841 So excited for this. 01:13:47.862 --> 01:13:50.743 We've got various covers lot of cool stuff 01:13:50.764 --> 01:13:51.444 going on over there. 01:13:52.164 --> 01:13:54.006 And you can find us on our social 01:13:54.025 --> 01:13:54.405 media. 01:13:54.426 --> 01:13:55.546 I don't know if you can see that. 01:13:55.907 --> 01:13:56.787 Oh no, they can see that. 01:13:56.806 --> 01:14:01.510 Okay. 01:14:04.909 --> 01:14:06.430 oh and they're on tick tock which is 01:14:06.449 --> 01:14:08.091 something i'm not i can't do tick tock 01:14:08.131 --> 01:14:11.011 i tried i tried i'm not super active 01:14:11.171 --> 01:14:14.171 on anything other than instagram but yeah 01:14:14.192 --> 01:14:15.792 that's just because i just have no time 01:14:16.393 --> 01:14:18.292 but i would like to start you know 01:14:18.353 --> 01:14:19.974 phasing out of the trucking industry and 01:14:20.194 --> 01:14:22.613 hopefully into comics full time because i 01:14:22.634 --> 01:14:24.515 got a lot of goals i want to 01:14:24.534 --> 01:14:25.895 accomplish a lot of stories i want to 01:14:25.935 --> 01:14:28.935 tell i like to hear it man i 01:14:28.996 --> 01:14:32.117 like to hear it so as they said 01:14:32.256 --> 01:14:33.296 go to the kickstarter 01:14:34.599 --> 01:14:36.220 Click notify me on the plague. 01:14:36.239 --> 01:14:37.280 That way you can be one of the 01:14:37.320 --> 01:14:38.862 first people notified when the plague 01:14:38.902 --> 01:14:40.243 drops October twenty first. 01:14:40.283 --> 01:14:41.543 I'm guessing around lunchtime. 01:14:43.166 --> 01:14:45.226 It'll probably be earlier in the morning. 01:14:45.247 --> 01:14:47.048 I'm thinking maybe ten AM. 01:14:47.088 --> 01:14:47.429 There we go. 01:14:47.469 --> 01:14:48.210 Just before lunch. 01:14:49.010 --> 01:14:49.951 And then when you go to lunch, 01:14:50.570 --> 01:14:53.314 you can simply pop on Kickstarter and go 01:14:53.394 --> 01:14:55.395 out and support Lucky Devil comments and 01:14:55.414 --> 01:14:55.916 the plague. 01:14:56.735 --> 01:14:57.957 Go over to Instagram. 01:14:57.997 --> 01:14:59.377 Just type in Lucky Devil comments. 01:14:59.438 --> 01:15:00.418 I swear to God they're going to be 01:15:00.458 --> 01:15:02.581 the first ones to pop up and same 01:15:02.621 --> 01:15:03.462 over on Facebook. 01:15:04.403 --> 01:15:05.606 Trust me, they're easy to find. 01:15:06.028 --> 01:15:08.435 I even found them. 01:15:08.496 --> 01:15:11.505 Now, with that, I will be back here 01:15:12.742 --> 01:15:14.743 Tomorrow night with Apogee Comets. 01:15:14.842 --> 01:15:17.703 And I'm sitting down with the whole team 01:15:18.524 --> 01:15:20.644 from Apogee Comets tomorrow night. 01:15:21.144 --> 01:15:22.604 It's going to be a blast. 01:15:22.625 --> 01:15:23.284 Which, I mean, 01:15:23.305 --> 01:15:25.185 tonight we got the surprise of Nicole 01:15:25.225 --> 01:15:25.824 joining us. 01:15:27.105 --> 01:15:28.445 She tried to get out of it. 01:15:28.466 --> 01:15:29.466 I'm not going to lie to y'all. 01:15:29.485 --> 01:15:30.606 She tried to get out of it. 01:15:30.787 --> 01:15:31.846 And I was like, no, no, no, no. 01:15:31.886 --> 01:15:32.466 Come on back. 01:15:32.506 --> 01:15:32.947 Come on back. 01:15:32.966 --> 01:15:33.887 You're part of the team. 01:15:34.627 --> 01:15:36.167 Let's make it happen with both of them. 01:15:36.287 --> 01:15:38.649 And both of y'all were a delight. 01:15:39.641 --> 01:15:40.162 Albon, 01:15:40.601 --> 01:15:43.722 I am wishing you all the best of 01:15:43.802 --> 01:15:45.503 luck on this Kickstarter. 01:15:46.024 --> 01:15:46.823 Remember, guys, 01:15:46.863 --> 01:15:50.585 this is a make or break Kickstarter for 01:15:50.625 --> 01:15:50.985 them. 01:15:51.386 --> 01:15:52.985 So you need to show up. 01:15:53.345 --> 01:15:54.606 You need to support. 01:15:55.027 --> 01:15:57.528 That way the plague can get made because 01:15:57.568 --> 01:15:58.847 without your support, 01:15:59.368 --> 01:16:02.009 this comic book will not get made. 01:16:02.029 --> 01:16:04.329 So please understand that as you're going 01:16:04.350 --> 01:16:05.569 to the voting booths tomorrow. 01:16:05.689 --> 01:16:06.229 No, I'm just playing. 01:16:06.250 --> 01:16:07.430 You're not going to the voting booths. 01:16:08.511 --> 01:16:10.152 You're going to Kickstarter in two days. 01:16:11.653 --> 01:16:17.194 Bro, without a doubt, Lucky Devil Comets, 01:16:17.855 --> 01:16:21.396 The Plague, Styles P, and Nicole, 01:16:21.817 --> 01:16:23.278 and Jiminy fucking Cricket, 01:16:23.297 --> 01:16:29.100 for God's sakes, are all USDN approved. 01:16:29.541 --> 01:16:31.002 And with that, ladies and gentlemen, 01:16:31.101 --> 01:16:33.122 I want to wish you all a good 01:16:33.203 --> 01:16:33.502 night. 01:16:33.903 --> 01:16:37.145 And don't forget, Kickstarter in two days. 01:16:38.565 --> 01:16:42.755 or Batman will come and find you. 01:16:42.815 --> 01:16:44.219 We are out, y'all. 01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:45.601 Enjoy your nights. 01:16:47.064 --> 01:16:48.127 Safe travels tomorrow night.