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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible, guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We are here, and we are very excited. We are

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<v Speaker 1>here and not somewhere else. That's completely true. If you

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<v Speaker 1>remember the DJ rick Ds.

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<v Speaker 3>You listen to the radio as a kid, apparently not Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Rick D's he had he had a saying he said,

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you go, there you are. Okay, That's that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you just sort of said.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I just said that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, something something like that, something like we're here, right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Contemplating industries of the universe right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you had no TV growing up and.

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to Christian music though, oh you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to just an average radio or whatever, you're just

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<v Speaker 1>all at all at all. So so if we were

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<v Speaker 1>to like like turn on a station like I love

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties, you'd be like, not really.

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<v Speaker 4>What they would be familiar because of like being in

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<v Speaker 4>the mall or something, or at work.

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<v Speaker 2>People would be listening to music.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it wasn't forbidden, it was just a choice. Or

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<v Speaker 1>was it forbidden?

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<v Speaker 2>Both.

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<v Speaker 1>It was both okay, wow, okay. I never listened to

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Christian music until I obviously became a Christian.

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<v Speaker 4>Your wife started listening to it in the car when

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<v Speaker 4>you get in and before you can scramble as fasty

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<v Speaker 4>can and change.

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<v Speaker 1>The chal she introduced me to it. She did.

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<v Speaker 2>She was she loved Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>She was my Christian friend who liked Christian music. But

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<v Speaker 1>I became a Christian my sophomore year of high school,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I was exposed to Amy Grant, Michael W. Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>Sandy Patty, all those guys. Anyway, here we go. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to dive into a segment called one Must Go,

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<v Speaker 1>One must go this Thanksgiving coming up in a few days,

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<v Speaker 1>which one stays and which one goes away forever? So

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<v Speaker 1>you and I just have to choose. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>we decided this is for the.

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<v Speaker 2>World, okay, and that's this or that essentially.

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<v Speaker 4>Escally yeah yeah, yeah, this one or that, but but

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<v Speaker 4>it goes away for the world, for the world forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So we're choosing this on behalf of humanity, not

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<v Speaker 1>for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, So here we go. Which goes away

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<v Speaker 1>forever Jeff Turkey or Ham.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a tough one. I love both. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>hardest one on this list.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, all the Jews would say yeah Ham.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I love him. I think I'm gonna say ham.

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<v Speaker 4>Ham will go away?

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<v Speaker 2>What? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Why because it doesn't say all the rest of the

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<v Speaker 4>pork products, So you'd still get the benefit of turkey.

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<v Speaker 1>What.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't say all the other pork products. It just

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<v Speaker 4>says ham itself.

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<v Speaker 1>It just says bacon.

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<v Speaker 4>No, bacon doesn't come from the ham. Ham is a

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<v Speaker 4>cut of meat.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, you would know this.

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<v Speaker 4>You're a week guy, that's right, right, You're you're You're

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<v Speaker 4>still be able to you still be able to have

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<v Speaker 4>you're GRIBs protein. You'd be able to have ribs and

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<v Speaker 4>bacon and pulled pork sandwiches, all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You just couldn't have the ham.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fine, you've convinced me. I was one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, but I think I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you get both, Okay, all right?

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<v Speaker 4>Good hang out with wise friends and you become wise.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. And yes, speaking of it, Yeah, yesterday, that

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<v Speaker 1>was yesterday. Ye it could have been yesterday, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two cornbread or stuffing. Which one goes?

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<v Speaker 2>Corn bread?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, corn bread yeah, corn bread.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuffing is too good.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, too good.

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<v Speaker 1>But also way more popular than corn bread.

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<v Speaker 4>I found a recipe last night at eleven something at night,

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<v Speaker 4>I was looking at recipes and I found a recipe

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<v Speaker 4>for a new kind of stuffing I want to make.

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<v Speaker 4>That looks incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, wow, yeah, I just I just wait watching

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<v Speaker 1>the lions, and then she says it's time to eat,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm like, oh, this is really good stuffing, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, right, sweet potato mash or mashed potatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, there's no competition here. I really like sweet potato mash.

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<v Speaker 1>But come on, you can't get.

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<v Speaker 4>Rid of mashed potatoes exactly, exactly, yes, So out with

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<v Speaker 4>the sweet potato mash.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we three for three?

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<v Speaker 2>Three for three? Three for three?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow? Yeah, that usually doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we're using mostly in agreement, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Green bean casserole or cranberry sauce. Now, is this green

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<v Speaker 4>bean castrole like the green beans that are in the

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<v Speaker 4>in the cream and mushroom soup with the fried onions

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<v Speaker 4>on top.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I would assume so, because that's the typical Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>green bean.

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<v Speaker 4>Castral yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so green bean casserole or

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<v Speaker 4>cranberry sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so green bean castro doesn't mean that you'll do

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<v Speaker 1>with green beans on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Side, No, just as that casserole that.

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<v Speaker 1>Castrole right, all right, So it has to be the

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<v Speaker 1>green bean casserole. Well, I mean, think about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>love cranberry sauce, down cranberry sauce. Well, I love jellied

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<v Speaker 1>cranberry sauce, which is unpopular, right, like they can the

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<v Speaker 1>one in the jelly, Like, I don't think you understand

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<v Speaker 1>how much I love.

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<v Speaker 4>To shake it out and it just stands at like

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<v Speaker 4>a can on top of the late.

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<v Speaker 1>So my wife, who's listening right now, she would chime

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<v Speaker 1>in right now and say, Jeff, you have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>how much my husband I think if if the cranberry

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<v Speaker 1>sauce is forgotten, the entire Thanksgiving meals from a ten to.

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<v Speaker 2>A two, well, it's not a Thanksgiving, right, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how much I love.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you eat it the rest of the year?

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<v Speaker 4>No, just with just with that meal with turkey, green

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<v Speaker 4>bean casserole, mashed potatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and by the way, I've gone to I've gone

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<v Speaker 1>to Cracker Barrel and I've ordered their Thanksgiving feast or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've also gone to bob Evans because they have

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<v Speaker 1>a really good Thanksgiving to fine establishment to fine establishments.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I ordered cranberry sauce, it's always the obviously

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<v Speaker 1>not the jellied because because who would ever serve that, right, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't like the other I don't like this

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, pumpkin pie or wait wait wait you never answered, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I would do away with the cranberry sauce, so we

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<v Speaker 4>disagree with Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I like cranberry sauce. I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I made a burger Thanksgiving feast burgerry with turkey, so

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<v Speaker 4>it was ground turkey with all the the flavors that

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<v Speaker 4>you put on a turkey, you know, rosemary, time sage,

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<v Speaker 4>it's really really good, and then melted a provolone on

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<v Speaker 4>that and had a little bit of stuffing and uh,

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<v Speaker 4>cranberry sauce on it. Believe or not, it sounds odd.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really on a breoshe bun. It was so good,

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<v Speaker 4>wo so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Anyways, so I like cranberry sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're making me hungry.

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<v Speaker 4>But I like green bean castrole better. Okay, So now

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<v Speaker 4>now the big one, pumpkin pie or apple pie?

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<v Speaker 2>Which one has to go forever?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you I already have an answer. Apple

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<v Speaker 1>pie is America itself. Yeah, mom, right, it's mom, it's

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<v Speaker 1>everything that, it's Baseball's right, it's everything.

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<v Speaker 4>So the patriotic answer is, yes, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to get a pumpkin pie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So although I love pumpkin pie, but do I order

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<v Speaker 1>it as much as apple pie? Not even close?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So on this one, yep, I don't care because I

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<v Speaker 4>don't like pie.

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<v Speaker 1>What I know, I know? What do you mean you don't

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<v Speaker 1>like pie?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So, of the two, I would prefer a good apple

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<v Speaker 4>pie over pumpkin pie.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not normally a pie person.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never chosen a piece of pie. I'm almost offended,

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<v Speaker 4>except I love pecan pie. Well that's pie. But I know,

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<v Speaker 4>but of of those two and name all the other pies,

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<v Speaker 4>I also like, like a French silk right, but I

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<v Speaker 4>don't like I for the most part, I don't ever

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<v Speaker 4>order a pie. I've never went you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>I want I want to pie There's there's a famous

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<v Speaker 4>pie company here in an area called Akets, right, and

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<v Speaker 4>my wife is always like, let's pulenty get a pie.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, okay, wow. I love cake. I love brownies.

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<v Speaker 1>So when it comes to this, you and I are

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<v Speaker 1>radically opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't love for pie.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like cake, I know, but I love pie.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. So I were friends.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>More for me?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, if I have pie, somebody brought me pie with

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<v Speaker 4>the little scoop ice cream or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I eat it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I'm not against it. Look at me. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't say. Note a lot of things right, but yeah, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, all right, we're time to move on. I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, okay, wow, super exciting this man speaking of being

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<v Speaker 5>uh oh jeezh you have.

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<v Speaker 2>An hour one on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't look ahead. Well.

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<v Speaker 4>One of my favorite things about the great, big giant

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<v Speaker 4>Thanksgiving dinners. When you're done, you just go out and

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<v Speaker 4>pass out in front of the TV, right right.

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<v Speaker 2>Being lazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the one of the verses here is talks

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<v Speaker 4>about being a lazy bones.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a terrible transition. But I didn't have which

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<v Speaker 1>is the goal.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything work on that. Listen, we apologize to our viewers,

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<v Speaker 1>and tomorrow we will be prepared for the better transition.

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<v Speaker 4>Will we will we though, Okay, we'll see, We'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we are in Proverbs chapter six.

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<v Speaker 4>All we're doing is we're trying to trying to inform

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<v Speaker 4>ourselves of the practical wisdom of King Solomon. And a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of times, for me as a kid, I felt

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<v Speaker 4>like reading Solomon was very similar to reading like the

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<v Speaker 4>clever thoughts of Mark Twain or the clever thoughts of

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<v Speaker 4>You know, a penny saved is a penny earned kind

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<v Speaker 4>ben Franklin seemed to be just clever, and there's a

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<v Speaker 4>Proverbs chapter six, verse one says, my child, if you

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<v Speaker 4>of their hands to rest. Then poverty will pounce on

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<v Speaker 4>you like a bandit. Scarcity will attack you like an

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<v Speaker 4>armed robber. What are worthless and wicked people like? They're

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<v Speaker 4>beyond all hope of healing. There are six things the

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<v Speaker 4>Lord hates no. Seven things he detests haughty eyes, a

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<v Speaker 4>a family. My son, obey your father's commands, and don't

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<v Speaker 4>Tie them around your neck when you walk. Their counsel

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<v Speaker 4>When you wake up, they will advise you. For their

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<v Speaker 4>correct discipline is the way to life. It will keep

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<v Speaker 4>a promiscuous woman. Don't lust for her beauty, don't let

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<v Speaker 4>you to poverty, But sleeping with another man's wife will

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<v Speaker 4>cost you your life. Can a man scoop a flame

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<v Speaker 4>So it is with the man who sleeps with another

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<v Speaker 4>man's wife, he who embraces her will not go unpunished.

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<v Speaker 4>Excuses might be found for a thief who steals because

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<v Speaker 4>he's starving, but if he's caught, he must pay back

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<v Speaker 4>seven times what he stole, even if he has to

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<v Speaker 4>sell everything in his house. But the man who commits

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<v Speaker 4>adultery is an utter fool. For he destroys himself, he

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<v Speaker 4>will be wounded and disgraced. His shame will never be erased.

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<v Speaker 4>For the woman's jealous husband will be furious, and he

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<v Speaker 1>Woo. So being in ministry for so long and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>will always make fun and say we're old, right, even

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<v Speaker 1>though we're not old right, you're old, Yeah, you're old. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm only six weeks older.

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<v Speaker 2>Than you, way older, but the uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, having been a ministry so long, you

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<v Speaker 1>can see this play out in so many lives. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even tell you the number of people who

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<v Speaker 1>I've had conversations with in fact, I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>even know of a story where adult tree is involved

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<v Speaker 1>where it doesn't end badly, right, it just ends, it ends.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always so drama filled and and yes, in some

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<v Speaker 1>cases could be absolutely dangerous. But you know, I love

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<v Speaker 1>how Solomon says, can a man scoop a flame into

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<v Speaker 1>Can you walk on hot coals and not blitcher his feet?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, so it is, and of course the

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<v Speaker 1>answer is no.

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<v Speaker 2>And what he's playing with fire?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he's he's saying, he's saying, do you not understand

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<v Speaker 1>that it's going to end badly? And he's and then

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<v Speaker 1>he's making the visual aid comparison of saying, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>as if you can't do this, yuess, well, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>commit adultery with an other man's wife. And guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna forgive and it's gonna you're gonna you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna die, basically, and and and and even even compares

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<v Speaker 1>to this stealing. He's like, hey, he's like even a thief,

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<v Speaker 1>even a thief can get away with it if he's starving,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he's gonna have You know, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>huge consequence. He's gonna pay back seven times if he

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<v Speaker 1>gets caught. But guess what's gonna happen if you get caught, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's gonna end badly. So I mean, it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like there's like ten verses here that uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really uh warn us against that, you know, just the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of what God hates. And here's the here's my

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<v Speaker 1>second thought. My second thought is I always found it

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<v Speaker 1>super weird that every time I come across this verse

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<v Speaker 1>where he says there are six things the Lord hates, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>just kidding, seven seven things he detests, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>lists seven things obviously that are bad. But then I think, oh, really,

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<v Speaker 1>God doesn't hate eight things. God doesn't hate nine. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, what's so special about these seven things? You know?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, all of these things are called an abomination in

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<v Speaker 4>the Bible, So an abomination means they make God want

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<v Speaker 4>to vomit. So there aren't very many. There's a couple

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<v Speaker 4>more that I mentioned in the Bible. So that's a

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<v Speaker 4>poetic mechanism in Hebrew where he starts off saying they're sixteen,

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<v Speaker 4>no seven, right, So it's a poetic like get your

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<v Speaker 2>You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>That runs me of mel Brooks in the Meeting of Life.

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<v Speaker 1>dressed up. Mel Brooks course is just hilarious. He's starting

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<v Speaker 1>three stone tablets and he goes, God brings you these

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and then one falls and drops and he goes, ooh,

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So that's it's a poetic mechanism that he's using

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<v Speaker 4>there for that. So, but the things he talks about,

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<v Speaker 4>the God hates hot haughty eyes, that's just pride, right,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what he's talking about there. A prideful look is

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<v Speaker 4>usually what it's translated. A lying tongue, hands that kill

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<v Speaker 4>the innocent, which in our society that's a pretty significant thing.

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<v Speaker 4>A heart that plots, evil feet that race to do wrong,

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<v Speaker 4>a false witness who pours out lies, and a person

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<v Speaker 4>who sows discord in a family. All of those things

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<v Speaker 4>tear apart society, right, all of those, each of those things,

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<v Speaker 4>and so that's what he's going after there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I find it interesting that he says a

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<v Speaker 1>Those things are connected to you know, the character intention, right,

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<v Speaker 1>They're connected to the inside of a person. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a false witness that pours out lies. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Well, we can have these things, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>each of these this idea, there's a lying tongue in

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<v Speaker 4>who pours out lies. And on the surface, you think, well,

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<v Speaker 4>those are the same, he's just repeating the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But a lying tongue is somebody who's a liar, Right,

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<v Speaker 4>You just lie, You make up stories that aren't true,

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<v Speaker 4>you give answers that aren't legit. Whereas a false witness

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<v Speaker 4>who pours out lies is that's more of an affirmation

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<v Speaker 4>of God's view of the value of the rule of law. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>So in court, somebody who comes in and tells a

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<v Speaker 4>lie under oath undermines the whole process of justice in

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<v Speaker 4>a society. Right, So the second. That second one is different.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not just being a liar. It's upending the process

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<v Speaker 4>of justice, the rule of law in society. And the

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<v Speaker 4>only way that the rule of law works is the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that we choose to believe it does and we

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't behoove us and it actually might work against us,

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<v Speaker 4>we still have to if we're going to be civilized people,

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<v Speaker 4>we still have to choose to under oath give the truth, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and if not, all of the rest of society breaks

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<v Speaker 4>a move in court, if you're willing to take advantage

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<v Speaker 4>of your ability to hide the truth in a public

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<v Speaker 4>setting like that, that that tears down the fabricous society

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<v Speaker 4>differently than just being a liar, right, And so that's

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<v Speaker 4>why those two they seem the same, but they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>People who what was it heart that plots evil versus

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<v Speaker 4>the feet that race to do evil?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Right, there's some who just love it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was always really tempted by friends who go, jeff,

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<v Speaker 4>I dare you especially they double dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Dare me sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't usually think of dumb things to do, right,

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<v Speaker 4>But if my friends dare me to do dumb things,

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<v Speaker 4>I did them right. So I was the second one,

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you I was. I was both. Would

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Right, And you have sort of a group

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<v Speaker 1>of friends like that. It's a it's a really bad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course you know if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it, there's you know, you can't fall out

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<v Speaker 4>Have you seen where there's some you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>mess Yeah, master mind that is so good at figuring

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<v Speaker 4>out how to break into the bank, or how to

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<v Speaker 4>steal a bunch of bitcoin, or how to take advantage whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>And you look at that character going, if they just

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<v Speaker 4>solving the problem of cancer, they would change the world.

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<v Speaker 4>But instead they use all of their intelligence to try

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<v Speaker 4>to find a way to shoot a move, take advantage,

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<v Speaker 1>You just described the plot of ant Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, exactly. I'm sure ant Man was what Solomon

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<v Speaker 4>But let me jump to this one because each of

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<v Speaker 4>He's writing, like five verse segments, the very first one,

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<v Speaker 4>my child, If you put up security for a friend's debt,

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<v Speaker 4>or agreed to guarantee the debt of a stranger, if

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<v Speaker 4>you trapped yourself by your agreement or caught by your words,

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<v Speaker 4>do whatever it takes, follow my advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Get out of that.

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<v Speaker 4>What he's saying is don't co sign. That's what he's saying, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And he's not saying don't help a friend out, don't

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<v Speaker 4>help a family member out. He's saying, don't go on

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<v Speaker 4>the hook for somebody else's debt because it'll ruin their life,

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<v Speaker 4>their life, and your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>And so he's warning here, and there's multiple times in

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<v Speaker 4>the Book of Proverbs where he warns his children don't

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<v Speaker 4>be a co signer for any reason. And so that's

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<v Speaker 4>what he's talking about there, And he said, don't put

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<v Speaker 4>it off, do it now. Don't rest until you get

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<v Speaker 4>out from underneath that, right, because the potential is if

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<v Speaker 4>you're a co signer, the other person doesn't pay and

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<v Speaker 4>it's on your credit, you've got to pay, and if

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't get paid, it's not their credit, it's your

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<v Speaker 4>credit that's going to get ruined.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to hear a story that is not

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<v Speaker 1>relevant but very interesting. It's twenty seconds. Yeah, my grandfather,

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<v Speaker 1>he's since passed away, But my grandfather was talked into

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<v Speaker 1>co signing. A good buddy of his camee to him

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<v Speaker 1>in desperation, said he wanted him to co sign for

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<v Speaker 1>a new car, convinced him. My grandfather signed it, and

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<v Speaker 1>the next week this guy ended up taking his own life,

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<v Speaker 1>and he left behind a wife and children. And so

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<v Speaker 1>my mother talks about that story and says, my grandfather

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<v Speaker 1>made that payment every month and never spoke a word

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<v Speaker 1>about it and paid the whole thing off.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, you know, if you have the margin to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to do it. But what he's saying here

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<v Speaker 4>is you're putting yourself at risk yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that crazy though? It's a crazy story.

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<v Speaker 4>And then my dad used to call me lazy bones.

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<v Speaker 4>Did he a little bit as a kid, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>so that that phrase, yeah, so that that well, we

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<v Speaker 4>read this all the time. Oh I see, So you

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<v Speaker 4>know it says go to the end, thou slugger is

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<v Speaker 4>what it says to King James.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever read that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah so sure.

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<v Speaker 4>But verse ten, A little sleep, a little slumber, a

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<v Speaker 4>little folding the hands, the rest. On a regular basis,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll roll over, turn off my alarm and go I

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<v Speaker 4>just can't get up. A little rest, Yeah, a little sleep,

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<v Speaker 4>a little folding the hands, the slumber.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's so fun.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's talking here that procrastinating, not doing the work

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<v Speaker 4>you need to do today is going to lead you

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<v Speaker 4>to poverty tomorrow. So there's so many smart things he

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<v Speaker 4>warns you about, the slick people that wink and nudge

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<v Speaker 4>you at their foot and always trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if there's winking and nudging and signals at the table,

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<v Speaker 4>probably somebody's shooting a move and you don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>be a part of that either, right. So it's just

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<v Speaker 4>so smart the stuff he talks about here where he's

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<v Speaker 4>just trying to set his children up to understand how

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<v Speaker 4>the world works and the best way to live.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's great. Well, hey, that looks like our time.

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<v Speaker 1>So what a great chapter. And we'll see you hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>next time on the bibble Gush