MIchael Andre Ford: I was at a Starbucks in
Northwest Austin meeting a book editor and a woman is
staring at me from the front section of the Starbucks.
And in my mind's eye, it's like 200 feet away,
but no building is that big for a Starbucks.
She's also dressed completely opposite of Austin in Santa
Fe, New Mexico, garb, white outfit, turquoise jewelry.
Never seen anybody dressed like that.
She's just sipping her coffee and staring
at me the whole time.
And that was, an angel who's one of my business
managers, Charlotte
Rod Bland: With me today is Michael Andre Ford.
Michael, welcome.
And thanks for coming on the show.
MIchael Andre Ford: Rod, thanks for having me on,
love your show, and, um, it's a real treat to meet you.
Rod Bland: Yeah, likewise, uh, you describe yourself
as an angel intuitive, so you help people connect
with angels, guides and passed over loved ones.
So can you start off by just sharing a bit about
your background and how you first discovered this
ability to facilitate those kinds of connections?
MIchael Andre Ford: Sure, and, uh, it's just
basic listening, feeling, seeing, so anybody who can
just slow down a little.
Gets to do this and it's direct.
So I really try not to tell anybody anything,
but it's a video show.
Uh, it's a show.
I got to tell you something here.
So I have had a little bit of ability throughout
childhood and stuff like that.
Um, but it really kicked into gear after a
layoff in New York city.
I got an hour's notice with 72 other people right
after the Lehman crisis.
And, uh, that was it.
The job was gone.
I was working at a billion dollar law firm.
I was a public relations guy.
I'm really, hopefully pretty good at public relations.
I'd done 1, 100 plus media interviews that I personally
set up for people, you know, an expert on one
side, journalist on the other, the year prior.
Was making kind of CEO pay.
Uh, but I was excited because the news meant
I could move to Austin where I'd bought a home.
And I didn't know that I'd be using my public
relations skills later on with angels, guides, figure
from figures from India, you know, your grandmother
on one side and you on the other, doing the same sort
of matchmaking much later.
Uh, but it was when I moved to Austin to the
home that I started to have, uh, some experiences.
Kind of popped out of thinking with the layoff
and some other experiences, kind of a perfect storm
and realized that thinking was thinking and there was
something beyond thinking.
Um, and in seeing everything, uh, hearing, I grabbed a sure
shot camera and took photos of angels, fairies, Plato,
the philosopher, I used to hand the camera to folks.
And nowadays people can just see directly, like maybe
out their window in their yards, they don't freak out.
Uh, but you can see full on these figures and
just have a direct chat.
I basically step out of the way.
Rod Bland: So you've got some, um, some interesting photos.
I don't know how well they'll come out on the
screen, but I was quite fascinated to see those.
What made you actually think, Oh, I'm going
to take a picture now.
And because I can see this, or was it that you took the
picture and then it later on, it showed up and you
think, wow, what's that?
MIchael Andre Ford: Uh, sheer panic.
Uh, you're seeing balls of light.
What do you do with it?
And you have to talk to other people who are psychic mediums
or have been in the business and asked what's happening.
Uh, I didn't grow up with any knowledge of any of this.
I mean, Oprah was my local Baltimore news broadcaster
back in the seventies.
When I lived in Annapolis, Maryland, but I got lucky.
There's a, a fairy, uh, and four archangels, even
though they're triangle shapes, you just kind
of kind of roll with it.
This means something it's in light energy form.
And the bottom line is, so I had really no background.
I skipped half my Plato reading, uh, during my
political science classes back at Middlebury
college in Vermont.
Uh, so as sort of a leg down, so to speak.
And, uh, what's kind of cool is if you're
just open to this, the universe is really big.
The universe kind of already has a plan for
you to just acclimate.
And I would call this just settling into
who you really are.
You kind of had it as a kid, whenever in your
memory of your prior part of your life was smooth
going, you had a lot of fun.
It could have been when you were five.
When you were in high school or uni, um, that's
what I'm talking about.
When sort of you, the world was your oyster.
Uh, that's what I'm talking about now is you can kind
of just do a little less thinking and judging and
drop into your heart.
And then you kind of see a broader relationship with
the world and how flows work.
Whether you want to call it a flow state.
Allowing, manifesting is a really popular thing, but
there happen to be loving guides, your relatives,
all these figures out there that if you do want to pay
attention, you can meet them, see them, get direct advice.
I think people are kind of already getting influenced
though right now indirectly.
Uh, if you're in the middle of a golf swing, you're in the
middle of a tournament, you're most of the, you're, you know.
You're in the lead of your local tournament.
You're on the 17th hole and you decide
to get pretty cocky.
You're about to hit it really hard.
Your brain, your, your intuitive voice says,
let's smack this and go for a hole in one.
Let's just crush it.
It's your day.
Um, may not be your voice.
It may be either your higher self, your grandmother, who's
your biggest golf fan, and maybe your guardian angel.
It may be Plato, who knows?
But if you actually heard your grandmother's voice, Play
Doh, your guardian angel's voice instead of your own,
you might drop that club, flee the country club, and
never finish, never play another hole of golf again.
It would freak you out.
So, there's something to this that, um, defies our
reality up here, but makes sense when you're here.
Rod Bland: So when your job finished, uh, in the
Lehman crisis and this big change, what was the general
response from your family and friends about that one?
MIchael Andre Ford: Well, I mean, I had an empty house
in Austin, and so I had to learn to, uh, kind of pick up
cooking, decorating the walls.
I used to think I killed plants.
I got a green thumb.
I've started doing a lot more color around the place.
I mean, I had to learn how to live.
When you live in a big, big city, it's easy to just do
the rinse, repeat, you know, work, rinse, repeat, and kind
of go very one dimensional.
I mean, I was having fun at the job.
I talked to everybody, cab drivers, security.
Uh, doorman, you name it.
Uh, but there was still more growth and
expansion to be had.
Uh, I had two parents pass, uh, when I was two
and when I was turning 23.
So my family circle and my friend circles, you
know, a little smaller, maybe the normal.
Um, but that was a part of my path as well.
And now hundreds of people have met and seen
my parents, even though they're passed over, they
show up in their twenties.
And, uh, it kind of takes again, the pressure off of
me for, you know, If you walk around saying you've got two
deceased, you know, relatives, that's pretty heavy.
Uh, I look at it differently now that they're with
me and they're always available, but there's
my mom and dad, you know,
when I was,
Rod Bland: so young.
MIchael Andre Ford: Yeah.
And he passed when he was just turning 26.
I think he was a few days into being 26, US
Navy off of Naples and an F4 Phantom crash.
It was his time to go.
Uh, and she passed when she was just about
44, 45 brain aneurysm.
I was just turning 23.
It was her time to go.
I mean, you kind of have to trust in this.
If angels tell you something or they tell you
something, maybe it is so.
Rod Bland: I guess what I'm, I'm digging at is there,
there seems to be, there's, there's like a shift in
perspective for you that made you open to these experiences
that wasn't there before.
Was it when your parents passed or was
there something else?
I mean, obviously there was a sort of a catalyst
with the job change, but I feel like there's
something more than that.
MIchael Andre Ford: Well, I mean, I can give a random
example would be, I think it was my sophomore year or
freshman year in college in Vermont, I had an internship
at this one company.
Uh, smack middle of Middlebury downtown.
I must be like 50 buildings.
It would be tiny on any city scale.
Uh, but I'm, I'm in this advertising agency.
A guy from the West Coast has started it up.
It's a C shaped office.
I'm there for 10 minutes, my first 10 minutes.
The last thing you would ever say to an employer is,
Hey, do you guys ever have any ghosts here?
I did that.
The whole place stopped.
The owner pulls me aside out of earshot and he's
like, did you see something?
And I'm like, well, no, but it just feels like.
You could have ghosts here.
And he's like, we just had an exorcism a week ago.
I need to know if, uh, you see anything.
And later I saw a cat that literally ran into the largest
bathroom I've ever known.
It must've been something else, but they put
a bathroom in there.
And so it's like, you know, the size of an office and
there's no place to hide.
I followed that cat in and there's no cat.
And I was like, okay, but.
At that stage of my life, I just dismissed it as
fast as I could, never thought about it again.
It would be like playing backgammon and you call
doubles before you throw doubles three times in a row.
I used to do that a lot in high school.
And, um, all I can say is there's something about when
you're in a flow state, when you shoot pool and run the
table, when you read six books in a row, you're in the
books, whatever the letting go is, and you're here.
Artists know it.
Musicians know it.
We all know it.
But we give ourselves no credit for it
when we're up here.
We do too much thinking, worrying, reacting,
stress, you know, fear.
Um, so whatever that is versus this is kind of
what we're talking about.
Awareness, limitless, no time.
Like on the pitch, playing football, soccer.
Uh, you just feel everything speed up or slow down.
You know you're going to get the goal.
You're Pele in the moment.
Uh, so whatever that is, is kind of what
I'm talking about.
Everyone knows.
How to do basic listening, feeling, and seeing.
But because we're talking angels, the universe, cosmic
beings, your grandmother, uh, you might get a
little jittery about it.
Rod Bland: So tell us a story about the most interesting
phenomena that you've observed that's made you think, wow,
there's, that's amazing.
MIchael Andre Ford: Uh, sure.
I mean, I was at a Starbucks in Northwest Austin
meeting a book editor for my glow sticks end book.
No one should ever read it.
Tremendously long, uh, uh, But beautiful book,
um, and a woman is staring at me from the front
section of the Starbucks.
And in my mind's eye, it's like 200 feet away,
but no building is that big for a Starbucks.
And you're supposed to be looking out.
That's the people watching section, usually a
raised piece of wood.
You sit, you look out.
She's doing the opposite.
She's also dressed completely opposite of Austin and
Austin has a lot of different kinds of communities.
She's not dressed as a cowboy.
She's dressed in Santa Fe, New Mexico, garb, white
outfit, turquoise jewelry.
Never seen anybody dressed like that.
She's just sipping her coffee and staring
at me the whole time.
And that was, uh, an angel who's one of my business
managers, Charlotte.
If you can allow for angels to show up in human form.
And just to give it a little flavor so people
don't think it's orbs or circles, there's a silhouette
of my guardian angel.
And again, the photos just run the gamut.
But I guess my point on this is, I ask the important
questions of angels over time, not who killed Kennedy, but
when they're here, do they really drink the coffee?
The answer was yes.
And I'm going to just mention, you can actually see
angels out and about town.
If someone's gung ho in the audience watching, listening
right now, they're gung ho.
And you're like, Hey, why not?
I could use a little pick me up, put it to the
universe, ask somebody from your crew to show up.
It'll be a sparkly eyed fellow or woman holding the
door open for you saying just what you said at the dinner
table the night before, or from the movie that you were
watching the night before.
And, uh, you'll probably feel something.
In that intuitive guidance system, whatever people call
it, that's you, that figures out do you like it, do you
not like it, um, angels are a little more available these
days than people realize.
So it's nice that I've got photos, it's nice that you
can see directly, it's nice you could hire somebody to
help you, but I'd make the argument that you're already
perfectly, uh, well endowed.
To get this done on your own.
Rod Bland: So why is it that angels are a little
more available these days?
Cause you know, in my line of, line of work, I, I talked
to a lot of people about angels, but it does seem
there's more of those people are talking about angels.
Uh, what's, what's happening there?
MIchael Andre Ford: Uh, I think just mankind's ready
for a little teeny, I know the word shift is a little cliche
now, but a little bump up in awareness, consciousness,
like actual awareness down here is on the horizon for
man just means a little less thinking, uh, a little more
love, gentleness, kindness.
Um, think of it this way.
If people listened more all across the planet, there would
definitely be less conflict.
Whether we're talking to workplace relationships or at
the country level and so on.
Uh, we've got it pretty good.
If we would just.
Pump the brakes a little.
Uh, I think a lot of things would sort themselves out.
Rod Bland: So you, you took me through a practical exercise
before we, Press record.
But I think it might be interesting for people to
see, um, and to try the exercise out for themselves.
And I think it translates okay for video.
So how about we do that?
MIchael Andre Ford: Sure.
Uh, how about I light sage first as sort of a baby step.
And if, if you don't mind sort of an allegory metaphor here,
picture 70 baby steps to get from the brain to the heart.
Now, for some of us, it's a decade or two.
We get shut tight like an oyster, you know, trauma,
car wreck, six divorces in a row in a six month period.
We're just really unlucky picking.
You know, the wife, uh, or the ex wife.
Uh, the bottom line is we get locked up tight up here.
We think we know something, but it actually
precludes possibility.
There's a broader knowing or just allowing that happens
when you're in your heart.
And that's why I love athletes.
I love business people who are open, uh, musicians
and artists, cause they just kind of get it.
Um, but I'll blow some sage and it'll go
through two screens.
And I've done this for other Australian show hosts.
I've done this around the globe.
You could be watching, you know, your channel in
2028 and still smell it.
So it's.
A lot less time and space than we think.
Um, I've only got one bit of like structure
or rule if you want that set your intent at home.
And, uh, if people don't mind me telling you what it is,
it would be, Hey, angels, universe, um, get me out of
my head, into my heart, help me smell some sage smoke
that I'm lighting right now and leave your eyes on this.
If you're already kind of hyper intuitive or whatever
the word is you like to say for kind of connecting, um,
you may taste this on your mouth, there's no one way.
And if you're also pretty open, as you
see the smoke, you can ask for flowers on top.
Why settle for just ho hum?
Yeah, get sage, but you can get flowers.
You could even get an ocean smell if you're
in Australia right now.
You know, catch noose of beach on the air if
you're nowhere near it.
If you're over in Perth.
Okay, so catch some sage.
Give yourself permission.
I'm going to tell one dad joke to tie up your thinking.
Thinking something.
is the only block to smelling sage, to kicking
that ball into the goal, to uh, finishing the last
chapter of your book you've stalled on for two months.
Um, thinking something is really not giving
a hug to the dog.
Uh, giving a hug to the dog is actual love.
So just catch a little sage, catch a little bit of flowers.
Here's the dad joke.
Um, Santa's Reindeer, Blitzen and Dancer, just those two.
Nobody needs to know who they are.
But why do Blitzen and Dancer drink so much coffee?
Answer, because they're Santa's Starbucks.
And as Mother Teresa said, laughter's love.
When you're laughing, you're letting go.
When you're breathing, you're letting go.
When you're smiling, you're letting go.
There's about a million ways to get to here.
But last time I checked, there's about 14 million
ways to be stuck up here and to avoid the one
place we don't want to go.
So catch some sage, catch some flowers.
Rod, are you already catching a little in the studio there?
Rod Bland: Sure.
MIchael Andre Ford: And, uh, hey,
Rod Bland: it's something else.
Like I get a different, it's weird.
I get a different smell, but I can't put
MIchael Andre Ford: campfire or campfire or
Rod Bland: Hmm.
MIchael Andre Ford: sandalwood?
Rod Bland: Yeah, maybe that's what it is.
Oh,
MIchael Andre Ford: People have been getting
sandalwood lately.
I can't explain it.
Hey, so just blame the universe and angels.
Don't, don't look at me.
And, uh, I'll mention it this way.
I mean, everything is light.
I hate to sound really like kind of.
Cheesy or too cliche, but everything's consciousness.
How about that?
Your table, your rock, the trees, it's a little easier
to believe even your house, obviously your dog, your pets.
Uh, I mean, everything has been.
Life force to it, if it's easier to say it
that way, but you can see that light everywhere
and it gets really wild.
Like, I could give a good metaphor.
If you just have a best friend, a bloke that
you're comfortable with, um, put your two hands
together at a supermarket.
So this is obvious.
You can feel each other's heat.
You're touching each other's skin.
You're like, duh, I know, I know it's real.
I'm feeling something.
And if you go like this, uh, go like this, you still feel
the heat because it's pretty close, a couple centimeters.
At some point, we hit the thinking wall.
When you're like this, uh, this far apart, you're like,
well, I don't know if I'm really feeling it or not.
Your brain's getting involved in starting to judge.
Your heart's like, no, I actually feel the energy.
You can go all the way to one end of a supermarket
and the other and feel that vibe, but you got to
be kind of cocky about it.
And let's throw in the wrench for the whole psyche, the
judging, evidence based science, and everything else.
You can see the light flow the whole time.
And when you see the light flow and you go that far
apart, or you're on the, on the pitch, the soccer field,
you're at one end of the goal, uh, one end of the field
and the other, and you're seeing the light, and then
ask the universe to make a butterfly of light come out
of it or hearts or something.
There's people who have done that.
Not a big deal.
It sounds like a big deal, but what I'm trying to
say is what does no limits look like to anybody
who's listening right now?
I mean.
Maybe if there are no limits in life, there
are really no limits.
Good luck with that.
We all have thinking we're doing adulting.
I, you know, I know what I know.
I'm stuck.
My situation is, my problem is, Rod, you don't understand.
I'm on my 19th divorce and I got 12 dogs.
Um, so there's a lot of reasons we can't for anything,
but, uh, if you'll kind of remember back or hearken
back to the, you're being a kid when you were going to
climb the tree, become a NASA astronaut, you know, prime
minister, um, you know, You had no limits at one point.
You never lost that sort of zest for life, that
quoi, the joie de vivre.
And so, uh, the other way to say it is maybe
like, love is a constant.
Love is everywhere.
Open your eyes to see love.
But if people like the word enthusiasm, creativity,
you know, there's a million of those high vibe things.
It's gotta be your language.
And guess what?
You're the only person who's watching out there that
can figure any of this out.
Uh, and so good luck, like, how are you, how's any of
us doing in our daily lives?
lightening up a little more.
Put the news on, get stuck in traffic, bad
news at work, you get into this with your neighbor.
Um, there's a lot of ways to get caught up in the little
eddies, kind of mean nothing.
Uh, and it keeps us from just showing a
little, being a little more love, showing love,
being a little more kind.
So I would just argue the rat race is really up here.
Uh, and the big picture is awareness is kind of
on the horizon for man.
There's certain people who are really groovy.
Relaxed, you know, the great musician Tame Impala.
Uh, I have a feeling he's pretty plugged in.
I have a feeling Einstein was pretty plugged
in and guess what?
You can talk to Einstein, meet Einstein, see
him, ask him directly.
Don't listen to me.
Rod Bland: So tell us a bit more about angels for, you
know, I kind of think of angels as Ethereal beings
with wings and what's, what's your perspective on what they
are and what their purpose of, and as far as they're
interacting with us as humans.
MIchael Andre Ford: Yes.
No, I'm kidding.
Um, so yes, uh, but you can see them without
wings, with wings.
They come in all shapes, sizes, and
colors, all different sorts of backgrounds.
Now I've done this like 12 or 13 years for a
few thousand folks.
And by the way, if you do this stuff separately, like your
own listening, feeling, and seeing, you can do it jointly.
So joint seeing, joint hearing.
So, I mean, I feel like I'm off the hook, truly.
Photos, a few videos of angels, but so here's
the, here's the catcher or the catch, uh, or the
wrench in the whole thing.
You know, after 12 or 13 years, you think
you know something.
Good luck with that.
Um, one angel about a month or two ago, maybe three
months ago, just said, Hey, I've got an Andromedan
background, you know, with all the UFO, UAP disclosure
talk, uh, and you know, the cosmos, the universe,
whatever you call it is really big, I kind of suspected.
They've always said some of them, they're from really
far away, but they're just on conditional love.
And from their perspective, they don't want to interfere.
You have to ask for the help.
Um, so he's from Andromeda, another
angel's from Andromeda.
Uh, my guardian angel's from Sirius.
Uh, you know, I'm not trying to be serious, but the
Sirius that's out there.
Uh, and then another one is from Orion.
So that has just, uh, thank God I've got 12
years under my belt on this to allow for all that.
Had it been 10 years ago, I probably would
have run for the hills.
Um, It's just, look, all of this is a lot for people,
but let's take angels and spirituality and woo woo
woo and the fact that you might be able to see light
or just experience a more, a little, like, smoother
path, see consciousness.
How are people rolling daily?
What are we really allowing for daily?
Forget, you know, again, spirituality and all
this extra stuff, extra help you could get.
Um, I would argue a lot of us are kind of up here
and feeling pretty stuck.
Or frustrated, or this or that, lower vibration stuff.
And, um, we're probably not, like, a U.
S.
Army slogan being all we could be as it is.
So, uh, we're still spending our energy.
And we don't know whether we're doing it
out of here or here.
And if you could just see that energy, which you
can, uh, it's kind of a waste, like ego is fear, a
waste of energy and time.
And I'm not knocking it.
I'm going to do it like later tonight.
I'm going to do it tomorrow.
Thinking unfortunately is not going away for man,
for me, for you, we're all going to do some.
So what this is really about to try to make it sound
like the easiest New Year's Eve resolution ever, New
Year's resolution ever is 7 percent less thinking daily.
I'm quoting an angel on this.
Um, and that would just be 7 percent more love
or peace or kindness or gentleness or reading a
book or swimming in a pool.
Uh, daily.
I don't know what 7 percent is of 24 hours,
but I think it's between an hour and a half, two
hours and 15 minutes a day.
And that's according to an angel, the Olympic gold
medal standard for equals smoother path in life,
more wisdom coming in.
You sort of just.
Grow into that really relaxed person that
everybody just congregates towards at the pool party.
Rod Bland: So how do you incorporate that 7
percent less thinking idea into your life, Michael?
MIchael Andre Ford: Um, yeah, it's not, well, it's not
do as I say, not as I do.
I do running.
I've been, uh, if I'm 56, I've been running since I was 14.
That seems to be my big thing.
Uh, long runs, getting as in, getting in as many miles.
And I never would have thought of this, but an
angel said, uh, exercise is also a form of compassion.
You don't have to just do the mindfulness practice,
the meditation, go read a poetry book or go to an
institute or an ashram, um, you know, finger painting,
hugging your kids, just walking hand in hand, uh,
with your kids or taking your dog for a walk, uh, barefoot
in the grass, anything to break the structure of
the routine, you know, the rinse, repeat, rat race
thing, uh, I think counts.
Rod Bland: My wife recently just bought a couple
of dogs, their little miniature dash hounds, and
I haven't had a dog or a pet for a very long time.
And, uh, I just got reminded, you know,
just holding on to them.
It just, just, it does.
It takes you right out of your, out of your
head with, with pets.
Um, people often ask, you know, do pets have souls?
Are we able to commune with them after they're gone?
What's your perspective there?
MIchael Andre Ford: The Buddha and nature question,
if we're talking Buddhism, but, um, dogs have, and
cats have guardian angels.
Uh, you can meet them on the other side.
So you don't have to die to meet, to
reunite with your pet.
You can, um, I always do a few angels first, if
that's okay for folks.
If someone's from India, they might be really
insistent and they want an Indian figure first.
Like Sri Shirdi Sai Baba, the one from a hundred years ago.
Do a few angels.
I make sure the person chats with angels to get permission
to see the relative.
Or, uh, the loved one or the pet, uh, just cause
I don't feel like it's my place to just assume
that's, that's cool.
And it can't be your uncle, who is a really bad guy
who died in an FBI or national police shootout
yesterday, robbing a bank.
You gotta, you gotta have some space for them to adjust.
Um, but again, it's direct.
You do the full on seeing, uh, for an angel, Einstein,
Jesus, Mary, Muhammad, Buddha, and then you'll see your
cousin come in, your mom.
Uh, and, you know, it can be a tearjerker, but
usually it's those 75 steps to get from here to here.
And it sounds complex, but just blowing sage,
smelling sage, you probably took five of those steps.
And one act of letting go could get you from here to
here, and it's all 75 steps.
The reason why I say that is letting go is letting go.
Details are Details Thinking is thinking.
Um, how do I say it?
This is thinking, this is being open down here.
And, uh, it's the degree of difficulty of flipping a
light switch, brushing your teeth, falling asleep at
night, turning on that shower and enjoying the shower.
Um, Eckhart Tolle said it pretty well.
I think Wayne Dyer had his own version of a can't be upset,
taking a nice hot shower.
But the quote is, uh, ego implies unawareness.
And awareness and ego cannot coexist.
So you're either here or you're here.
You can't be half pregnant.
And guess what?
Most of us are up here most of the time.
And it's the Casablanca movie, um, when the chief
of police walks into the casino and says, I'm
shocked to see there's gambling going on here.
I mean, there's gambling going on across the whole globe.
There's a lot of us doing a lot of thinking.
Meanwhile, you know, the waiter slipping him his
gambling winnings and he says, thank you very much.
So, uh, you can't be shocked.
There's some thinking going on that just means
judging, but I'll talk about knowing real quick.
Most of our currency.
among man right now is, uh, knowing that
precludes possibility.
We see it in science.
You and I discover something, a new type
of resin or plastic.
It lasts for two weeks.
And then Joe and Bob and Susie invented a better resin.
We're out of business.
Um, stuff is only for so long.
And then, uh, there's a greater form of, uh,
awareness or a greater form of expansion.
Uh, the growth and expansion doesn't stop.
We do kind of Polaroid snapshots with the mind.
And we think that's, uh, very fixed in reality.
It's why if you and I were living next to each other and
Bob or Susie 10 houses down was a complete jerk, and you
and I agree, we took a survey in the neighborhood, almost
everyone agrees they're a jerk, um, calling them a jerk.
If you could just see the energy you generated,
it's negativity.
Uh, you would recoil if you saw that light
or the negative light.
Um, and so all I'm trying to say is it's not actually,
if you did love instead, you're giving that person
a little bit more support.
To get out of their situation.
I don't like to make it sound too direct because they're
making their own choices.
They're spending their energy, how they're spending it.
That's, that's for all of us, where you put your focus.
If I learned like two things in 10 or 12 years now,
it's where you put your focus is where you put it.
Um, how you spend your energy is how you spend it.
And love is truly the fabric of the universe.
You just have to trust this much more.
And you can call it faith, religious, not religious.
It's, um, I just call it letting go to get to here.
And again, athletes know it, artists, musicians, and a
lot of people, uh, out there, but they only know it in a
compartmentalized way, if they would just trust that
the way they handle their artwork is the way they could
handle their relationships, it's all the same.
One moment can be like the next.
Uh, that's kind of the key.
So I think we're into a philosophical zone now.
Rod Bland: Yeah, that's where I like to be.
You mentioned exercise as a way to sort of get
from here into here.
And I completely agree with you.
So it's like a daily thing.
Um, Is there any other practical advice you can have
for people to sort of get more out of their head, into
their heart, so to speak?
MIchael Andre Ford: Yeah.
Um, I mean, literally the, there's so many experts
on now giving advice, um, but a meditation,
mindfulness practice, just walking nature, uh, you'll
find yourself though, meeting your ego a lot.
Your ego will tell you, yeah, it's a great idea.
Let's go for a walk.
Two hours later, you haven't gotten out the door.
One thing after another.
So it's really identifying.
Tik not Han, pieces every step.
That little teeny book is so chock full of how to
generate a reminder practice, a reminder to be mindful,
appreciative, allowing.
Um, attention, you know, all that other stuff.
So, uh, it's really just being in the moment and
realizing that when you're changing the kitty litter,
it's not the end of the world.
When you're doing dishes, it's not the end of the world.
You put the headphones in for the flowers and you're
mowing, uh, and instead of hitting the flowers, you
find that if you enjoyed it, mowing the lawn, it goes
in half the time and you didn't hit the flower garden.
Um, there's something about being here versus here.
Once you figure that out, you're off to the
races for the rest.
You've got a unique life path.
The universe will bring it to you indirectly.
You can ask for it.
Dream time.
Uh, you can have lucid dreams, uh, with angels.
I should just mention before I maybe show people
the light on my hands, the aura chakra thing.
Um, you can, you can have like a lucid, uh, connection,
but I don't really like the description lucid, maybe
more interdimensional, India can come to you.
Tibet, you just sit like this.
And if you've at least met a few angels or a few
figures from India or Native American chiefs or whoever,
again, they make it nice, and five minutes of our time
is ten minutes over there.
So it's Nepal, Tibet, India, the Middle East.
I love Hawaii because You can go surfing like
a professional, but you don't know how to swim.
You've never surfed before.
Somehow angels make it just really nice.
You can also walk the Akashic records, get a tour, but
I'll give you an example.
I had two show hosts in America, one on the West
coast, one in Florida.
So they know each other well, and it's
a three way zoom call.
And they've met angels, you know, in a frontal
assault fashion.
They've gotten some answers, felt some hugs, um, caught
some sense, maybe whatever you do to meet angels.
Uh, and then.
They shut their eyes.
They kind of listened to my voice for just a little bit.
They go to Hawaii and meet a few more angels
who are their tour guides, their surf guides.
When they went surfing in their own realities,
they got to see each other on, you know, the wave
over and wave high, wild.
And at Omega Institute during my three day event, there
were two women who came into the, uh, what do you call
it, a workshop, a program.
They already knew each other.
There was a third.
It was kind of their vibe, like late twenties, high vibe.
All three, when they're sitting there doing this,
they got to see each other.
So not really lucid dream, more interdimensional.
Again, five minutes of our times, 10 minutes over there.
And what's wild is people just get what they need.
I just make sure you come back.
I don't think there's anything dangerous about it.
It's just love.
Um, but that's what people talk about sometimes with
the OBE thing, the out of body experience, the
near death experience for near death experience.
I don't want to make this sound anything, but what
I'm trying to say is there's sometimes a very high point
of the near death experience, a beautiful experience where
you're seeing some of your cheerleaders, uh, or you're
on a beautiful mountaintop.
You can have that experience again, just the high end.
You don't have to go through the death part, the surgery
part, that this part, that part, uh, you can just
ask for that and have it sort of recreated for you.
Um, a lot of times we get very sensitive about that though.
So it's just much easier going to Tibet.
Or going to, uh, yeah, Tibet and meeting up with
Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche.
A few of his students from the seventies got
to reunite with him.
A few people have met Mother Teresa have gotten
to reunite with her.
I've got a Swede who gave a beautiful testimonial,
who adopted two infants or babies from her.
She went to India in 1997, met Mother Teresa, got to do this.
I think it was around 2020.
It's up on my website or on my YouTube channel.
Um, so when she got to meet again, Mother Teresa, she,
you know, burst into tears.
Um, but it was deep.
It was moving.
It was loving.
And there are a lot of people on the planet, not a lot, but
there's a little portion of people today that like doubt
Mother Teresa's authenticity.
I would argue, you know, if you're meeting
anybody on the other side, they're reconciled.
They're unconditional love.
You don't have to fear, doubt, or worry.
Uh, it's just, um, uh, they can handle their
own and they can handle their own reputation.
Rod Bland: Awesome.
You've got, uh, something more practical for us to play with.
MIchael Andre Ford: Yes.
Uh, I'll show my light on my hands for folks at home.
Just again.
Take it easy, take a deep breath, shake your hands
like you're finger painting, but you're not actually
spraying paint everywhere.
Um, do the only setting the intent thing again, just,
hey, angels, get me out of my head and into my heart.
Help me see with my heart a little bit of light
on Michael's fingers.
It's out of the movie Celestine Prophecy that
they do it this way with the fingers straight,
although some people have said, uh, in the 70s they
also did it that way.
In India they do it this way.
I'm standing up, so it's kind of a pain to do it this way.
Give yourself a break, breathe through your mouth, open
your mouth a few moments.
And again, one more dad joke.
Where in a hospital is the worst place to play
hide and seek in the ICU?
And just see a little filament of light between my fingers.
Is it white, gold, green, yellow, five colors at once?
What do you see, Rod?
Rod Bland: It's the same, the same white one for me.
MIchael Andre Ford: Cool.
I'm not crazy, you're not crazy.
Be sure to play this back and be sure to watch this show
two or three times in a row
to boost his analytics.
But also, uh, it's the vibe,
not what I'm saying.
I'm gonna mention it's the Hindu chakras.
So, I mean, I can never get it exactly right.
I think it's like red, Yellow, orange, green for the heart.
I got that.
Uh,
blue, purple.
Yeah.
And then the white
is all the colors combined.
So it's actually a big deal, but the rainbow light, if
you've got rainbow light and you've only been running
five kilometers a day on your run, you've been
thinking about doing 10.
It's time to do the 10.
Um, imagine what angels are like as coaches.
They just know when you're going to get injured and
you shouldn't push it.
They also know when you're sandbagging, maybe it's
lifting at the gym, you're sandbagging, you're only
doing half the weight that day and you could handle more.
They make the best athletic coaches.
Imagine what they can do for your relationships,
for your business.
Um, are you willing to listen?
Most of us.
You know, we're off to the la la land of daily
routine, so we're not really paying attention.
It's why we have all the health crises, trauma, you
know, this has to happen to us to get us to pay
attention more in life.
Um, and I'm shocked.
Rod Bland: Now, because you mentioned your age,
Michael, and I have a very high interest in health,
it's clearly you are doing something right because a lot
of people would like to look the same as you at your age.
So, you know, give, give us a little rundown on, on
some daily practices that you have that is part of
your vibrant health there.
Mm
MIchael Andre Ford: looked young.
So like, Hey, when I was getting out of college,
trying to get a first job, it was tough.
I worked on wall street for a couple of years and I
must've been about 23, 24, just after my mom passed.
But I looked like I was 14.
I had a great phone voice.
But every client I met in the conference room, they'd never
do business with me again.
I was selling stock ideas, uh, to portfolio managers and
they just, um, they couldn't take advice from someone
that looked that young.
So I got out of that, did public relations the rest of
my day where the horsepower up here was all that mattered.
I was super creative.
I used to put people on the front page of the wall
street journal, uh, on CNN back when the media was
sort of normal financial times, New York times.
And just absolutely love the creativity
of matchmaking there.
But somehow this came along, it's the exact
skill of matchmaking.
But remember, we all have, we're all reticent somehow.
It's like a New Year's resolution, you know, whether
it's exercise, or I'm going to go finally take a vacation
I've held off for five years.
It's just called living more, allowing more, loving more.
It's the scariest thing in the world because you
all found a way to retreat from the one place, the
only place you can go.
And I think it's, um, Seth, that new age, uh, you can
meet Seth, a light being, but the Jane Roberts, Seth books.
In the 1970s, but also Peaceful Warrior, the
movie with Nick Nolte, Amy Smart, or the book, Way
of the Peaceful Warrior.
And even, um, The Alchemist or it's Esser Hicks and
Abraham Hicks talks about the only place that any of
this can be found is here.
And that's why artists have discovered it.
Athletes are trusting their heart to just do performance
on the field or wherever, on the balance beam.
Um, so it's the only place you can go.
It's not going to be found externally.
I mean, I, I still say go to Machu Picchu.
Machu Picchu.
Do the ashram if you have to in India, although you
could close your eyes and have the India come to you.
Um, but at the end of the day, it's kind of like,
and I'm going to quote out a little book called
Listening to Angels.
Uh, I didn't write it if anybody thinks that I did.
I mean, I typed, but I saw balls of light
as I was writing it.
Um, it's kind of like the classic treasure hunt
with X marks the spot.
But instead of like an external treasure, it's here.
You get to find yourself.
So you just get to pay attention more and rediscover
the you that never went away.
So that's what this is about.
Uh, and as for good health and all the rest, I mean, yeah,
it's probably the running.
Rod Bland: All right.
So tell us, tell us everything you've got going on.
Programs, books, anything, just so that people know
the ways that they can get in touch with you if
they want to and learn more about what you do.
Yeah,
MIchael Andre Ford: It's just youtube.
com forward slash, you know, Michael Andre Ford or C
slash Michael Andre Ford.
But I've got a show that's not so new now.
It's just over a year old, uh, 50 episodes last year called
Angels, Positivity and Love.
And I'd love to have you as a guest this December in 2024.
Um, but I've jumped it to three shows a week
airing, uh, June 1st.
And I'm already booked into December.
Uh, and most of those shows will be complete by July 1st.
Uh, so that's pretty exciting and some really
big names for a small show.
Uh, we've got Rod Bland maybe coming in
December, if you know him.
Uh, and then I'd just like to mention, uh,
Listening to Angels.
It was a number two.
Amazon bestseller.
I don't think anyone's ever gotten to claim twice.
It's been a number two bestseller endorsed by
Anita Morjani that, you know, three times New
York times bestseller and near death experiencer.
Um, but it's a beautiful little book, 15 minute read.
It's got photos of angels.
It's your best bet.
If you wanted to skip me, uh, and just check things
out, it's a probably 7.
99 these days.
And my Amazon author profile is easy.
It's just amazon.
com forward slash author forward slash angels.
And an angel named Charlotte told me to pick that moniker.
And I was like, no way the word angels is
going to be available.
It was, I grabbed it.
So,
Rod Bland: you got lucky.
Well done.
All right.
We'll put all that in a, in the show notes for you
anyway, so that people know how to get in touch with you.
Uh, anything final that you'd like to leave people with
who are watching this video?
I might've actually just, you know, skipped to the end.
MIchael Andre Ford: yeah, no, uh, this is so simple.
It's ridiculous.
Like I'm literally, people think it's a big deal and is
a big deal when you go through it and you have your first few
experiences, you freak out and you get over it at some point,
it's like driving a car.
There was a point when you're 13, 14, 15, whenever
it is, whatever, wherever you live, it depends, uh,
you're so excited about driving a car, but maybe
you had trepidation too.
Now, flash forward to when you're 25, 30,
35, do you even care?
You touch the keys, you're stuck in traffic, you're
complaining about this, complaining about that.
A few people are enjoying the eagle flying by or
the caracara, uh, and appreciating life regardless
of how bad the traffic is.
That's a great metaphor for.
Um, but I would also just say you don't
have to know anything.
You don't have to have some sort of philosophical,
religious or other type of thinking.
It's just not about more thinking.
It's about a little less thinking.
So just trust that angels exist.
Um, your answers and more will come.
And if you are kind of shy about this, ask
for like nighttime.
Dream time.
Uh, I don't mean like visitation, so you freak out,
but just like a pleasant dream where you're like, huh, there
might be something to this and then ask for some signs.
I mean, that's probably the easiest way to go
if you're really shy.
Uh, but you can go full on direct, uh, get
answers for anything.
Uh, and it's not just all languages and, uh, dialects.
It's also just the way you need to hear
it, your personality.
And imagine that there's 8 billion of us on the planet.
That's a lot of navigating, a lot of personalities
and thought forms to deliver a message.
Rod Bland: Michael, it's been my pleasure
to talk to you today.
Thanks for being a guest on my show.
MIchael Andre Ford: Thank you very much, Rod.