1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,120 Welcome to NoOffice, a podcast about work, technology and life from a remote company perspective. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:15,120 In Nozbe, we believe that work is not a place to go, it is a thing that you do. That is why, 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:23,840 since 2007, we run our company 100% remotely. In Nozbe, there is NoOffice. 4 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:31,680 The NoOffice podcast is sponsored by Nozbe teams, a to-do app that helps modern teams do great things. 5 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,680 Go to Nozbe.com to learn more. 6 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,920 Don't cram a bunch of people on Zoom. 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:41,200 We're a simulated office all day long. You know, you probably are going to work from home. 8 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:48,560 Hello and welcome to NoOffice, a podcast about work technology and life from a remote company 9 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:54,980 perspective and this remote company is Nozbe and CEO of Nozbe is Michael 10 00:00:54,980 --> 00:00:59,820 Sliwinski who is also my good friend and I'm joined by him as always. 11 00:00:59,820 --> 00:01:03,740 Hello Michael, how are you? Hey, hey and the host of the podcast is our VP of 12 00:01:03,740 --> 00:01:09,560 product Rafal Sobolewski. Hey Rafal. Hey, hey, happy new year Michael. So that's 13 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,700 the first episode of 2022. How was your Christmas break? Yeah, it was different 14 00:01:14,700 --> 00:01:19,260 because we just because of the you know so every like I would like to wish all 15 00:01:19,260 --> 00:01:23,500 the health you can have for the next for this next year because I think health 16 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:29,540 should be the most important like should be the the priority for all of us for 17 00:01:29,540 --> 00:01:35,140 2022 and because of that we decided not to visit our parents not to like visit 18 00:01:35,140 --> 00:01:41,180 our family in our hometown and stay where we live with my family because of 19 00:01:41,180 --> 00:01:46,940 of the COVID cases, because of the whole situation, and because we were about to be vaccinated, 20 00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:52,300 and about to vaccinate our kids. And because of all that, we decided to stay. So it was 21 00:01:52,300 --> 00:01:58,460 a staycation. But we did take time off for three weeks, which was glorious. And I must 22 00:01:58,460 --> 00:02:05,860 say it was a very nice staycation. So we played with the girls, we went biking, or cycling, 23 00:02:05,860 --> 00:02:15,860 however you want to call it, or we went walking, just enjoying our family, playing board games. 24 00:02:15,860 --> 00:02:20,980 And I think, you know, I always have this pressure to travel somewhere, and now because 25 00:02:20,980 --> 00:02:29,300 of the situation, traveling is not that much recommended. I believe I kind of realized 26 00:02:29,300 --> 00:02:35,020 how cool it is also to chill and just have a staycation and just, you know, spend a few 27 00:02:35,020 --> 00:02:38,620 hours of the day just completely chilling. Everybody's just doing their thing and just 28 00:02:38,620 --> 00:02:45,580 chilling. But then do something together and mix both. So I liked it. It was fun. 29 00:02:45,580 --> 00:02:52,780 That's very important to have this kind of let ourselves to really chill out, do nothing, 30 00:02:52,780 --> 00:03:02,060 not to focus on what do I have to do now or any homework or etc. Not only work-related stuff, 31 00:03:02,060 --> 00:03:08,780 But just to chill, let your brain rest for thinking, analyzing stuff. 32 00:03:08,780 --> 00:03:12,940 And yeah, I also did that and it was very, very cool. 33 00:03:12,940 --> 00:03:16,620 And I have many thoughts to this. 34 00:03:16,620 --> 00:03:24,460 Chilling mode let my brain to have many thoughts about how my previous year was 35 00:03:24,460 --> 00:03:27,180 and what I want to do in the next year. 36 00:03:27,740 --> 00:03:32,620 So this Saturday and probably the next Saturday also, 37 00:03:32,620 --> 00:03:37,620 I will focus on writing it down to do a proper yearly review. 38 00:03:37,620 --> 00:03:41,700 What do you plan to do about your yearly review? 39 00:03:41,700 --> 00:03:45,940 Because I remember you're always going with your wife 40 00:03:45,940 --> 00:03:48,500 somewhere into Undine's hotel, et cetera. 41 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:51,420 - Yes, so we are doing that definitely. 42 00:03:51,420 --> 00:03:54,340 So one of the things that, Christmas. 43 00:03:54,340 --> 00:03:55,880 Christmas also means presents, right? 44 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,260 Gifts and stuff. 45 00:03:57,260 --> 00:04:01,620 And we also managed to dial down on the gifts. 46 00:04:01,620 --> 00:04:04,460 So we didn't give lots of gifts to many people. 47 00:04:04,460 --> 00:04:07,700 I mean, also didn't give too many gifts to the children. 48 00:04:07,700 --> 00:04:09,760 So they're not overwhelmed with the gifts. 49 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,540 Also, we agreed in our family, this is the first, 50 00:04:13,540 --> 00:04:15,180 no more gifts for adults. 51 00:04:15,180 --> 00:04:17,360 So adults don't give gifts to other adults. 52 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:18,200 That's it. 53 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,500 Like that's the policy right now. 54 00:04:19,500 --> 00:04:22,940 It means like the whole stress of buying gifts for my mom, 55 00:04:22,940 --> 00:04:25,740 for my mother-in-law, like for everyone, 56 00:04:25,740 --> 00:04:30,140 or just getting another sports t-shirt from my mother-in-law again. 57 00:04:30,140 --> 00:04:33,460 None of that. So this is very good. 58 00:04:33,460 --> 00:04:39,040 But one of the things that our nanny gave us and gives us every year, 59 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,320 and we love this gift every year and we like to repeat this gift, 60 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:43,880 is that she says 61 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,320 "I will not buy you anything. 62 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,620 Just plan your weekend with your wife, I'm staying with your kids 63 00:04:49,620 --> 00:04:50,580 for free." 64 00:04:50,580 --> 00:04:53,360 So, I mean, this is the best gift ever. 65 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,400 Because having a nanny for a weekend costs lots of money. 66 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:01,440 And if our nanny says she's going to do it for free for us as a gift, it's fantastic. 67 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,000 So she already said that and we are already planning. 68 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,200 We usually plan, we're going to do it very similarly this year, 69 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:13,800 in the beginning of February or sometime in February to have a longer weekend. 70 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,560 And this time she even upgraded the gift. 71 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,680 She said, "You can leave on Thursday to have a longer weekend." 72 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,000 So, man, this is gonna be glorious, 73 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,880 like to have a longer weekend with my wife 74 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,160 without the three kids. 75 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:31,320 And by the way, today, my eldest turns 13. 76 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:36,320 So I have a 13-year-old, I have a teenager in my house. 77 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,400 (sighs) 78 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,240 Crazy stuff. 79 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,440 And I recommend this to people, like gift experiences. 80 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,520 And for us, the Nellie's gift is one of the best gifts ever 81 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:46,360 that we can have. 82 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,860 And that's why, yes, we are planning this. 83 00:05:48,860 --> 00:05:51,820 But before this weekend with my wife, 84 00:05:51,820 --> 00:05:54,100 I always do my personal planning, 85 00:05:54,100 --> 00:05:56,820 so just as a preparation for the weekend 86 00:05:56,820 --> 00:05:59,900 that I wanna just discuss with my wife. 87 00:05:59,900 --> 00:06:04,900 So I managed to almost entirely plan my year, 88 00:06:04,900 --> 00:06:07,520 so do my annual planning. 89 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,020 Like in the meantime, again, in the meantime, 90 00:06:09,020 --> 00:06:11,420 I was just one hour here, one hour there. 91 00:06:11,420 --> 00:06:15,740 Like again, it wasn't a goal for this vacation. 92 00:06:15,740 --> 00:06:19,860 It was just, you know, I wanted to take time to do it. 93 00:06:19,860 --> 00:06:22,180 So we'll discuss it maybe if we have the time to 94 00:06:22,180 --> 00:06:24,380 at the end of the show about my plans for next year, 95 00:06:24,380 --> 00:06:26,460 but yes, I managed to do it. 96 00:06:26,460 --> 00:06:30,020 And I also managed to almost finish importing 97 00:06:30,020 --> 00:06:32,380 my old blog, stiwinski.com to Michael.team. 98 00:06:32,380 --> 00:06:36,740 So to my new blog, updating the posts, 99 00:06:36,740 --> 00:06:40,900 reviewing the posts and being surprised at myself 100 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:44,500 from 2011, 2012 was pretty smart. 101 00:06:44,500 --> 00:06:49,020 I was writing pretty smart things back then, back in the day. 102 00:06:49,020 --> 00:06:54,540 And also, I posted on my blog the best posts of 2012. 103 00:06:54,540 --> 00:06:57,900 So best posts from a decade ago. 104 00:06:57,900 --> 00:07:00,860 And it's surprising how many of these posts 105 00:07:00,860 --> 00:07:05,500 still hold true or have impacted me 10 years ago. 106 00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:08,900 Like for example, in 2012, I started working standing, 107 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:10,460 just like I am now. 108 00:07:10,460 --> 00:07:13,780 In 2012, I started going iPad only, which I'm doing now. 109 00:07:13,780 --> 00:07:20,100 So many things started 10 years ago and are still going strong, which is surprising and cool. 110 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:26,100 Oh yeah, 2012 was an awesome year for me as well. 111 00:07:26,100 --> 00:07:31,780 We have Euro 2012 in Poland. It was a huge deal. 112 00:07:31,780 --> 00:07:37,380 Yeah, wow. It's been 10 years. I don't know when it's passed. 113 00:07:37,380 --> 00:07:42,740 It feels like it was four or five years ago. 114 00:07:42,740 --> 00:07:45,300 And the following year you started working with me. 115 00:07:45,300 --> 00:07:47,260 - Yes, yes, that is true. 116 00:07:47,260 --> 00:07:50,020 Yeah, I was using KnowsBean 10 years ago. 117 00:07:50,020 --> 00:07:50,860 (laughing) 118 00:07:50,860 --> 00:07:51,700 - There you go. 119 00:07:51,700 --> 00:07:54,140 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. 120 00:07:54,140 --> 00:07:55,540 Okay, speaking of using KnowsBean, 121 00:07:55,540 --> 00:07:59,460 I think, yeah, you mentioned this to us on Monday, 122 00:07:59,460 --> 00:08:02,740 but coming back from vacation to work 123 00:08:02,740 --> 00:08:07,740 can be really tricky because like on the first day 124 00:08:07,740 --> 00:08:10,940 after your vacation, you will have many things to catch up. 125 00:08:10,940 --> 00:08:15,340 Yeah, and the way we do it now in Nozbe teams is glorious. 126 00:08:15,340 --> 00:08:20,860 These are the small features that normally people don't care about that much, but 127 00:08:20,860 --> 00:08:28,140 after like three weeks of completely not looking at Nozbe tasks, going back to Nozbe teams was 128 00:08:28,140 --> 00:08:38,060 fantastic because I had, for example, 100 or 200 items in activity, right? And like 15 or 20 129 00:08:38,060 --> 00:08:44,300 incoming tasks. So you think overwhelming, lots of stuff to catch up. But actually no, because all 130 00:08:44,300 --> 00:08:49,180 I had to do was review the incoming first. So the tasks that really concerned me, where 131 00:08:49,180 --> 00:08:54,700 people mentioned me or delegate stuff to me, like this kind of stuff. And it was like 15, 20 tasks. 132 00:08:54,700 --> 00:09:00,940 Okay. But then when I go to activity, we have this first part is like tasks you're responsible for. 133 00:09:01,580 --> 00:09:05,580 and then second section "tasks you have participated in" 134 00:09:05,580 --> 00:09:09,580 and it was perfect because I just cleared these tasks first 135 00:09:09,580 --> 00:09:14,580 so I went through tasks I was responsible for, like there were additional comments or something 136 00:09:14,580 --> 00:09:20,580 and then tasks where I participated in to see what's up, what's going on in the tasks that I cared about before going for holidays 137 00:09:20,580 --> 00:09:26,580 and I did that and I haven't cleared everything but I was kind of caught up already 138 00:09:26,580 --> 00:09:28,780 I knew what's going on. 139 00:09:28,780 --> 00:09:31,500 So it was surprising that it didn't take me 140 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:32,820 like the whole day to catch up, 141 00:09:32,820 --> 00:09:34,340 to know what's going on in the company. 142 00:09:34,340 --> 00:09:35,820 It took me an hour. 143 00:09:35,820 --> 00:09:38,620 - Yeah, this is really nice when Nozbe tells you 144 00:09:38,620 --> 00:09:43,620 actually puts in incoming and on top of activity 145 00:09:43,620 --> 00:09:48,100 so exactly into your face, the most important stuff, 146 00:09:48,100 --> 00:09:50,940 the stuff you are waiting for your feedback 147 00:09:50,940 --> 00:09:55,940 and the stuff you probably, the most probably interested in 148 00:09:56,140 --> 00:09:57,820 to read what happened. 149 00:09:57,820 --> 00:10:00,860 So that's really nice. 150 00:10:00,860 --> 00:10:03,380 These two things like incoming and the sections 151 00:10:03,380 --> 00:10:06,100 in the activity are my favorite features 152 00:10:06,100 --> 00:10:07,020 of Nozbe actually. 153 00:10:07,020 --> 00:10:09,980 - Yeah, I mean, so just today, I mean, sorry, 154 00:10:09,980 --> 00:10:11,740 yesterday and the day before yesterday, 155 00:10:11,740 --> 00:10:15,300 I already had lots of customer interviews scheduled, 156 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:17,140 of course, because like I was away for three weeks. 157 00:10:17,140 --> 00:10:19,820 So everybody, everything piled up that people wanted 158 00:10:19,820 --> 00:10:23,620 to meet with me on Tuesday and on Wednesday. 159 00:10:23,620 --> 00:10:30,180 And some of the customers are business customers who have bigger teams, and they are still 160 00:10:30,180 --> 00:10:34,980 using Nozbe Personal, but are right now contemplating migrating to Nozbe Teams because Nozbe Teams 161 00:10:34,980 --> 00:10:37,900 is already very feature powerful. 162 00:10:37,900 --> 00:10:43,240 And they asked me, and it was a very nice meeting with customer. 163 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:50,780 So meetings with customer, I explain them in my book, I schedule them every week. 164 00:10:50,780 --> 00:10:52,180 And usually there is... 165 00:10:52,180 --> 00:10:55,060 - Yeah, we also have a dedicated episode 166 00:10:55,060 --> 00:10:56,420 how to talk to customers. - Exactly. 167 00:10:56,420 --> 00:10:58,820 - I think I will link it in the show notes. 168 00:10:58,820 --> 00:11:01,420 - Yes, so sometimes just one customer shows up, 169 00:11:01,420 --> 00:11:03,060 but sometimes, for example, 170 00:11:03,060 --> 00:11:06,260 the whole management board shows up. 171 00:11:06,260 --> 00:11:08,140 Like, you know, two, three people 172 00:11:08,140 --> 00:11:09,740 from the management of the company, 173 00:11:09,740 --> 00:11:10,560 they wanna talk to me. 174 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:12,420 They wanna just meet me and talk to me. 175 00:11:12,420 --> 00:11:13,260 And this was the case. 176 00:11:13,260 --> 00:11:14,940 There was like three people from the management 177 00:11:14,940 --> 00:11:16,940 of the company showed up for this meeting. 178 00:11:16,940 --> 00:11:19,540 And they said that they were exploring Nozbe teams, 179 00:11:19,540 --> 00:11:22,360 and then they were asking about future features. 180 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,460 And of course I was promising them everything, 181 00:11:24,460 --> 00:11:25,780 so you're going to kill me. 182 00:11:25,780 --> 00:11:27,120 (laughing) 183 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,420 - You muggle. 184 00:11:28,420 --> 00:11:30,340 - No, but I was just talking about what we're doing 185 00:11:30,340 --> 00:11:32,780 and then I wanted to know exactly our thought process, 186 00:11:32,780 --> 00:11:35,060 why we built Nozbe teams, what's different 187 00:11:35,060 --> 00:11:36,740 between Nozbe teams and Nozbe personal. 188 00:11:36,740 --> 00:11:40,460 And one of them asked me, so Michael, so one feature, 189 00:11:40,460 --> 00:11:42,560 what's your favorite one feature 190 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:45,060 that's differentiating Nozbe personal from Nozbe teams? 191 00:11:45,060 --> 00:11:46,660 What's your one favorite one? 192 00:11:46,660 --> 00:11:50,040 And before I answered the other management, 193 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,500 you know, manager answered, 194 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:54,620 "I can tell you it's incoming." 195 00:11:54,620 --> 00:11:57,380 And I was like, "Damn straight, you're right." 196 00:11:57,380 --> 00:12:00,580 And he explained to the other guy, 197 00:12:00,580 --> 00:12:02,420 like why incoming is so great. 198 00:12:02,420 --> 00:12:05,940 And then I told, I just basically reiterated this. 199 00:12:05,940 --> 00:12:08,900 I just basically confirmed that he's right. 200 00:12:08,900 --> 00:12:11,820 Like incoming is the best feature. 201 00:12:11,820 --> 00:12:14,480 It's like single best feature of Nozbe teams 202 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,260 if we have to just put one. 203 00:12:16,260 --> 00:12:21,260 If a user customer can explain why our thought process actually, 204 00:12:21,260 --> 00:12:24,260 that means that we did something great. 205 00:12:24,260 --> 00:12:29,260 Yes. So it was a very surprising and very nice moment for me. 206 00:12:29,260 --> 00:12:34,260 I really enjoyed it. And so, yeah, Rafal, they agree with you. Customers agree with you. 207 00:12:34,260 --> 00:12:39,260 After testing Nozbe teams and seeing the difference, they see the light at the end of the tunnel. 208 00:12:39,260 --> 00:12:44,260 But again, this is something that we will be doubling down maybe more 209 00:12:44,260 --> 00:12:50,900 in the future, this fact that Nozbe can somehow, thanks to how you work in Nozbe, 210 00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:54,900 filter out what's really important for you right now. Because this is the key. 211 00:12:54,900 --> 00:13:01,300 And this is why also one of the things I did start during this staycation is the fact that I 212 00:13:01,300 --> 00:13:08,100 always read again "Essentialism" by Greg McKeown, my favorite book. And I read it every year. This is 213 00:13:08,100 --> 00:13:13,660 my New Year's tradition. Every year before the New Year, when I start my annual planning, 214 00:13:13,660 --> 00:13:19,540 I put in our autobill again Greg McKeown, and I'm listening to him explaining to me 215 00:13:19,540 --> 00:13:25,100 that I should focus on the essentials because I just need this. I'm a yes man, so I need 216 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:31,820 this information again, how to focus on what's essential, how to say no to great opportunities, 217 00:13:31,820 --> 00:13:34,220 to focus on the best opportunities, all that stuff. 218 00:13:34,220 --> 00:13:42,940 Alright, so let's jump into geeky stuff. You talked about Christmas gifts. I got one really great... 219 00:13:42,940 --> 00:13:44,440 From Apple. 220 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:58,860 No, because it wasn't a gift, it was just what I ordered. It happened to come just after the Christmas, Monday of 27th of December. 221 00:13:58,860 --> 00:14:03,140 So yeah, it's the new 14-inch MacBook Pro. 222 00:14:03,140 --> 00:14:04,380 Man, I love this computer. 223 00:14:04,380 --> 00:14:08,940 I don't know how to describe it, but I'm 224 00:14:08,940 --> 00:14:12,180 so happy about having this computer. 225 00:14:12,180 --> 00:14:17,020 And when I opened it for the first time, I thought, whoa, 226 00:14:17,020 --> 00:14:17,940 this screen is huge. 227 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:20,460 Is it really 14-inch or 16-inch? 228 00:14:20,460 --> 00:14:23,260 Because for the past three years, 229 00:14:23,260 --> 00:14:26,380 I was accustomed to this laptop form factor 230 00:14:26,380 --> 00:14:28,340 to use 11-inch iPad Pro. 231 00:14:28,340 --> 00:14:34,340 So comparing to this, the difference is really huge. 232 00:14:34,340 --> 00:14:42,340 And I noted out some neat picks, my observations about using it for two weeks now. 233 00:14:42,340 --> 00:14:54,340 So first of all, I forgot how good Trackpad is on MacBook, because I had Trackpad in Magic Keyboard for iPad. 234 00:14:54,340 --> 00:14:59,340 but it's not the same. 235 00:14:59,340 --> 00:15:05,340 Trackpad on Magic Keyboard for iPad is very loud, comparing to this one on MacBook. 236 00:15:05,340 --> 00:15:10,340 So it was that loud that when I was working on iPad early morning, 237 00:15:10,340 --> 00:15:15,340 when my fiancé was sleeping, I didn't use the Trackpad. 238 00:15:15,340 --> 00:15:20,340 I was just touching the screen. 239 00:15:20,340 --> 00:15:22,340 Yeah, but you can change that. You can change that in settings on iOS. 240 00:15:19,340 --> 00:15:23,940 on iOS and I did it that you can tap now you don't have to click yeah but I don't 241 00:15:23,940 --> 00:15:31,100 like tapping okay so but I I'm not like it's because when I said it to tapping 242 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:37,100 like there was like some accidental taps but I didn't want it so and on MacBook I 243 00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:42,260 can I can I can press the trackpad and it's really really quiet so it's it's 244 00:15:42,260 --> 00:15:47,560 not a problem so that's one that that was just one of the first thing I 245 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:54,080 noticed. Yeah and still opening screen feels amazing like the whole 246 00:15:54,080 --> 00:16:01,240 construction, the whole mechanism of the clamp it just opens and when I stop 247 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:06,120 opening it, stop putting the pressure it just stays exactly in that place. It 248 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:12,720 doesn't wobble. I know like Macbooks was like this for 249 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,720 for many years now, but that's something I rediscovered. 250 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:25,280 Display is awesome, animations are so smooth. 251 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:30,280 I noticed that it's, in some places, that it's 120 hertz. 252 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:35,920 The black is really black and it's just joy to look on. 253 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,200 And I actually, I put it in the center of my desk 254 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,760 to use it as a main screen, but we will get to it later. 255 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,200 Yeah, and speaking more about the design, 256 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,960 like the whole design, the form factor, 257 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,160 I think I have, I used to have MacBook Air, 258 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,720 a MacBook 12-inch and MacBook Pro 15-inch. 259 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,860 So this one is actually one I have never had before. 260 00:17:00,860 --> 00:17:05,360 And yeah, I think this is the perfect, 261 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:07,520 like the perfect size. 262 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,780 It's not too heavy to use it on my laps, 263 00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:15,960 to just take it and use it on kitchen table and so on. 264 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,000 And design, it's so beautiful. 265 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,880 It's both smooth, thin enough, 266 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:27,880 but not that thin as Macbook L with this... 267 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:28,920 - Yeah, with this wedge. 268 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,840 - With this shape. 269 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,880 With the shape, but somehow it tells you 270 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:40,680 it has a power, it has a horsepower to do some serious stuff. The design itself. 271 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:46,240 And yeah, I really like it. I love the notch and I will not talk about notch 272 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:52,040 anymore because all the notch discussions are pointless. Battery is 273 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:59,400 amazing. It's just something I haven't been able to test it very 274 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:08,920 hard because I don't travel much right now because of COVID, but still, battery is something 275 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,520 I don't look at. 276 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:16,800 I just don't care about battery because when I'm at desk, I connect it to external display 277 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,720 with USB-C and it's charging. 278 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,640 When I take it to kitchen table, it's always far. 279 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:29,640 I think I never had the battery below 50% for now. 280 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,760 Camera, finally, the webcam is, as you can see, 281 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,820 because I'm recording it, 282 00:18:35,820 --> 00:18:40,600 I deliberately choose to record this episode of podcast 283 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,480 with this built-in MacBook's camera 284 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,960 to show you the difference. 285 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,280 So if you are a listener and want to see how it looks like, 286 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:54,280 you can go to our YouTube channel to see the recording. 287 00:18:54,280 --> 00:19:00,280 And as you can see, I applied on the macOS level portrait mode effect. 288 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:06,280 It's quite nice, but if you're wearing headphones like us right now, 289 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:14,280 it just doesn't blur the space between my head and headphones, which looks kind of creepy. 290 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:19,280 But still, my face is pretty well light. 291 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:29,280 and background is not overexposed. That's the magic of image signal processing on this computer. 292 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:36,280 The quality of this picture is good enough for recording the podcast while traveling. 293 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,280 I don't have to think about carrying another camera. 294 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:45,280 Yeah, I mean the quality of the video that I see right now is very similar to my Logitech Brio camera. 295 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,740 camera and 296 00:19:46,740 --> 00:19:51,240 Logic Brio is 4k and all that stuff, but the quality is very similar. So it's 297 00:19:51,240 --> 00:20:00,160 Yeah, like the resolution is not the most important part. Like if it's 1080p that's good enough and others like the light 298 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,760 Light is the most important 299 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:10,680 NoOffice.fm/live and you will see this episode, you will see the 300 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:16,480 video feed and you will see Rafal in his glory with the new webcam. 301 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:21,040 And I already, when we met after I came back from holidays, I 302 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,680 have wanted that you, I like your new setup in the sense that I 303 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,840 like the light that you have in the office. 304 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,560 That you're right now really finally taking advantage of the 305 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:34,200 light that you have. 306 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,080 Yeah, yeah. 307 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:40,120 And actually I have another piece of light in my office. 308 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:44,200 That was another Christmas gift, but we will get to it. 309 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:52,700 And going back to the MacBook, again, it's something that shouldn't give me so much joy, 310 00:20:52,700 --> 00:20:55,680 but the ports, ports are amazing. 311 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:03,960 I've already used the HDMI port and SD card reader, and comparing to couple of years experience 312 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:11,760 of using dongles, it just feels great to just connect directly the cable to the machine 313 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,600 without any dongle. 314 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:21,680 For example, importing photos from my camera has lower barrier of entry because I just 315 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:26,280 take off an SD card and put it into MacBook and that's it. 316 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,640 It felt great. 317 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,220 And actually during Christmas break, 318 00:21:31,220 --> 00:21:36,220 we watched some TV shows and we connected via HDMI 319 00:21:36,220 --> 00:21:42,980 to 4K Samsung TV to watch TV shows, this MacBook. 320 00:21:42,980 --> 00:21:46,040 Yeah, and now it was, 321 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,800 previously we always used iPad. 322 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:48,640 - Yeah. 323 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,920 - But now it was like no-brainer 324 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,300 because MacBook has HDMI port, 325 00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:55,100 so we don't have to use any dongle. 326 00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:58,240 Yeah, and what's interesting, 327 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,500 We connected it to this huge 4K Samsung TV, 328 00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:03,800 okay, which is not the newest. 329 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,320 It's the TV from like 2017, I think. 330 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:14,000 But still, the sound of the speakers of MacBook 331 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,520 was nicer for us than the sound of speakers of the huge TV. 332 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,160 (laughing) 333 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,960 So yeah, that's how we watch the shows, 334 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,500 Like video on the TV, huge TV, 335 00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:30,040 but the speakers from MacBook. 336 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,000 (both laughing) 337 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,280 - Yes. 338 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,480 So you've been basically exiled from the dongle town. 339 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,640 - Yes, yes. 340 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,440 Like finally, like I have this one dongle 341 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,840 that I used always for first for my MacBook Adora board 342 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,560 and for MacBook 16 inch and after that for iPad, 343 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,480 maybe I will use it some day. 344 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,240 So I have it just in case 345 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,240 because there was still some USB stuff to be connected. 346 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:04,360 But man, it's very nice to not to have thing about battery, 347 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:09,520 about dongles, about RAM or CPU usage. 348 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,280 Right now we are streaming it live 349 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,480 and I don't care if I have many apps opened, 350 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,520 if I have many browsers open, et cetera. 351 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,880 But previously on iMac, before streaming, 352 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,880 I had to close everything that wasn't necessary 353 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:33,080 for the recording to make sure that CPU will be fine. 354 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:39,080 Actually, let me check activity monitor. 355 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,940 We will see how it's used right now. 356 00:23:41,940 --> 00:23:46,940 So CPU load right now is about 10, 15%. 357 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,760 memory use it's 22 gigabytes out of 32. 358 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,360 Yeah, so it's all green actually. 359 00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:58,400 - Yeah, it's all nice. 360 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,940 - Yeah, yeah. 361 00:23:59,940 --> 00:24:04,440 And one bad thing I noticed because I was wondering 362 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:10,440 if I can use this MacBook Pro as kind of charging hub 363 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,240 for my devices when traveling. 364 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,920 And I test this and when I, for example, during the night 365 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:22,200 connected the MacBook to the charger, this MagSafe charger and used the 366 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:27,960 Thunderbolt ports on the MacBook to connect my Apple Watch, iPad and iPhone. 367 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:34,120 Yeah. Yeah and Apple Watch and iPhone were charged but iPad no. 368 00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:39,680 Huh. iPad cannot be charged from MacBook when MacBook is sleeping. Huh. 369 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:45,360 Apparently there's not enough power so yeah it's a pity. 370 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:51,360 Okay, so I'm very happy that your MacBook Pro arrived safely and you love it. That's great. 371 00:24:51,360 --> 00:25:00,360 This is so funny that because I'm using my iPad 13", I'm not craving for the new MacBook Pro. 372 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:08,360 So I did test the MacBook Pro in Apple Store, but I don't need it, so I didn't buy it. 373 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:23,360 So great, so let's maybe take a break and introduce our sponsor and then after the sponsor break we could show the room where it happens, the pictures of your room and we could discuss your home setup. 374 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:29,360 Yeah, the impact that MacBook Pro had on my desk setup. 375 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:32,720 my desk set up. I mean this is the best thing ever you get a new device and as a 376 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,600 geek you have this problem that you love this problem you do to 377 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,880 rearrange your whole home office this is such a big problem it's so 378 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,600 such a good problem to have and this is such a problem a good problem to enjoy 379 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:53,320 just yeah like I was okay I will go to my office for one hour to run stuff and 380 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,680 then I spent the whole day then took a picture took a quick picture post it on 381 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:03,320 Twitter and it was my best tweet ever because there was so much discussion. 382 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,080 Okay, okay, let's talk about it on the podcast. So let's take a break now and we 383 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:15,120 will get back to it right away. So No Office Podcast is sponsored by Nozbe 384 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:21,740 Teams, a to-do app that helps small teams do great things. Let's hear what Nozbe 385 00:26:21,740 --> 00:26:24,320 customers say about the product. 386 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:30,100 When we've been around for about 10 years, our business has, and we've been using 387 00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:33,620 Nozbe for about eight of those years. And as we grew, we kind of got to the point 388 00:26:33,620 --> 00:26:37,940 where I just couldn't remember everything anymore. I'm pretty organized. 389 00:26:37,940 --> 00:26:40,780 I would just kind of keep everything in my head and with post-it notes and things 390 00:26:40,780 --> 00:26:44,820 like that. And it just got to be too much. And so I started looking around for some 391 00:26:44,820 --> 00:26:48,660 sort of project management software that could help me have a set up really trusted 392 00:26:48,660 --> 00:26:53,140 system. But really I just wanted a system where I could know that I had everything in there. 393 00:26:53,140 --> 00:26:57,140 I wasn't going to forget anything. I wasn't going to drop any balls for clients or miss deadlines. 394 00:26:57,140 --> 00:27:03,860 All right. And we are back. Okay. 395 00:27:03,860 --> 00:27:06,660 Yeah. Let's talk about my desk setup. Wow. 396 00:27:06,660 --> 00:27:10,340 Yeah. This is updated photo. It's not that I posted on Twitter last week. 397 00:27:10,340 --> 00:27:18,100 And for those of you who are listening audio version, there's the podcast chapter artwork 398 00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:21,460 with this and all the photos will be also in the show notes. 399 00:27:21,460 --> 00:27:31,380 So yes, as I said, 14-inch display is so awesome that I made a decision to make it my main display, 400 00:27:31,380 --> 00:27:38,740 at least for now, because my external monitor is only full HD. So it's not good for my eyes to 401 00:27:39,860 --> 00:27:44,200 to read and write texts using it. 402 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,600 It's fine as a second additional monitor 403 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,760 to just display some reference material, 404 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,080 but to work, to create right stuff, 405 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,100 you always want to have the best screen possible. 406 00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:59,300 When you are focusing on something, 407 00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:02,000 it really needs to be a good quality tool 408 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,000 just for your health. 409 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,320 We are not getting younger. 410 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,880 - No. (laughs) 411 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,080 - This is how it looks like. 412 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:13,080 It's the MacBook Pro on a tray on this Viozon arm, 413 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,620 but I already talked about it in previous episodes. 414 00:28:17,620 --> 00:28:19,760 And on the right side, 415 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,760 there is this full HD 24 inch monitor. 416 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,600 And I have iPad on the left side of the MacBook 417 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,780 as like additional space if I need it. 418 00:28:31,780 --> 00:28:35,260 Currently, when we are recording this episode, 419 00:28:35,260 --> 00:28:38,100 I don't have iPad attached there 420 00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:42,880 because I'm fine with the windows I need. 421 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,020 I can have it only on those two monitors. 422 00:28:47,020 --> 00:28:49,780 So it's fine. 423 00:28:49,780 --> 00:28:53,540 But for example, we will be doing Nozbe product work. 424 00:28:53,540 --> 00:28:54,380 - Yes. 425 00:28:54,380 --> 00:28:56,460 - That would be helpful to have, for example, 426 00:28:56,460 --> 00:28:58,700 Slack opened on the iPad, 427 00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:02,180 connected via Sidecar to see 428 00:29:02,180 --> 00:29:04,800 if there are some messages from the team 429 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,920 but maybe I said something bad or et cetera. 430 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,200 Yeah, and MacBook is elevated to the high level 431 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,640 and that's really good for ergonomics. 432 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,640 Still, my goal is to buy a 27-inch display 433 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:27,240 because yeah, like I miss this display from my iMac 434 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,720 which I put it on salt. 435 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,720 It's not salt yet, but hopefully will be salt. 436 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:41,720 Actually, I visited during Christmas break, I visited Leon, our Android developer. 437 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,720 Yeah, and he has the setup with a 15-inch MacBook Pro. 438 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,720 And next to it, he has 4K 27-inch display. 439 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:57,720 And next to it, he has an ultra-wide 1440 display. 440 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,720 Ah, yeah, the gaming display. 441 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,720 - Yes, like, yeah, he has like a huge base. 442 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,580 I tested my MacBook Pro with his 4K, 27 inch display 443 00:30:09,580 --> 00:30:11,400 and it was good enough. 444 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,240 Like, of course it's not that great as 5K iMac, 445 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,840 but I tested it, tried to read some text, 446 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,680 tried to write something and it's like, it's good enough. 447 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,200 So I think I will be buying some 27 inch 4K display 448 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,200 and not to wait for Apple's fancy monitors 449 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,960 because I will probably save some money 450 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,520 and it will be good enough. 451 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,960 There is that, but for now it is what it is. 452 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,960 And it looks awesome because apparently people on Twitter 453 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,900 love the setup, how it looks. 454 00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:50,280 And yeah, so this is display situations. 455 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,800 Yeah, I still using magic keyboard 456 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,560 that was from my iMac. 457 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,360 So I will have to switch it when I sell it. 458 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,080 Like one year ago, I have this Keychron Key1 459 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,320 mechanical keyboard. 460 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,240 - Yeah, that's right. 461 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,440 - Yeah, and I find out that I type faster 462 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,840 on the Magic Keyboard. 463 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,220 - Oh yeah, really? 464 00:31:13,220 --> 00:31:16,400 - I don't know why, but this is what it is. 465 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,360 And yeah, so I will be probably buying 466 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,360 the new Magic Keyboard or maybe some Logitech Keyboard 467 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,380 like this, I don't know yet. 468 00:31:24,380 --> 00:31:27,660 but for now I'm using this as long as I have it. 469 00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:29,980 Of course, MX Master 3, 470 00:31:29,980 --> 00:31:32,680 we already talked about this mouse. 471 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,940 I think the most interesting part of my setup is that 472 00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:40,940 how I attached this iPad next to the MacBook. 473 00:31:40,940 --> 00:31:45,700 Because it is attached on the actually monitor 474 00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:47,720 microphone arm. 475 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,220 - Oh really? 476 00:31:49,220 --> 00:31:51,020 - Yeah, it can moves. 477 00:31:51,020 --> 00:31:56,780 So I can just put it in the position I need it. 478 00:31:56,780 --> 00:32:03,440 For example, when I have my personal training via FaceTime with my trainer, I use actually 479 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:15,500 iPad on this arm and I put it closer to me on this arm and yeah, use it as a FaceTime 480 00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:20,500 to do some training and it's really nice with this... 481 00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:25,300 How is this feature called when the camera follows you? 482 00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:27,200 - Yeah, and the... 483 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,040 - Center stage. 484 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,240 - Yeah, center stage, exactly. 485 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,840 - Yeah, so center stage for this kind of use is quite cool 486 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,320 because like it just, the camera is very wide 487 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,760 and it follows me, so it's nice for exercising 488 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,760 and my trainer can see me for the whole time. 489 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,920 But sometimes it's tricky because it optimize 490 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,320 for tracking your face, not the whole body. 491 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,880 And sometimes my trainer needs to see my legs 492 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,320 and not the face. 493 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,600 So I have to be clever about it and be far away 494 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,240 from the iPad, from the camera, 495 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,920 but the maximal zoom is the way 496 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,740 that my whole body is still in the frame. 497 00:33:12,740 --> 00:33:13,580 - Yeah. 498 00:33:13,580 --> 00:33:14,540 - How it's connected? 499 00:33:14,540 --> 00:33:19,540 Because I've also received after new year, 500 00:33:19,540 --> 00:33:23,940 finally my Peak Design mobile pack of accessories. 501 00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:27,380 So the iPhone case and all the magnetic accessories. 502 00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:32,020 And one of these accessories is magnetic mount 503 00:33:32,020 --> 00:33:34,460 from Peak Design, but it's like wall mount. 504 00:33:34,460 --> 00:33:36,980 You just put it on the wall or something 505 00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:38,940 and you can snap your iPhone there. 506 00:33:38,940 --> 00:33:53,940 So I had this microphone arm, so I attached to it some smartphone holder, like generic smartphone holder from Joby, and put it there, the old smartphone Nexus 5. 507 00:33:53,940 --> 00:34:02,940 With the back front to me that shows the photo, it will be of course as a chapter as well for audio version. 508 00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:07,940 So here it is. And the wall mount is glued to the back of the Nexus 5. 509 00:34:07,940 --> 00:34:22,940 Yeah. And that way I can connect my iPhone. And also iPad because I bought this morphed invisible tablet stand that has magnets inside. 510 00:34:22,940 --> 00:34:29,940 So I can just snap it, snap the iPad in the portrait or landscape orientation there and it just stays there. 511 00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:36,740 there. And it's super cool. I was planning to do it for months right now, but still waiting for this 512 00:34:36,740 --> 00:34:45,220 peak design Kickstarter campaign to finally ship. And it was like, I think the original date was May 513 00:34:45,220 --> 00:34:53,140 2021. And I got it on January 2022. Yeah, this is what happens with Kickstarters now. 514 00:34:53,140 --> 00:34:58,660 Yeah, but it was worth waiting because the gadgets are awesome. 515 00:34:58,660 --> 00:35:02,820 Okay, so just as a break, I would like to share my, 516 00:35:02,820 --> 00:35:04,380 because in the last episode, 517 00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:08,140 you asked me about my monitor, Thunderbolt display. 518 00:35:08,140 --> 00:35:11,540 So speaking of displays, I wrote a blog post, 519 00:35:11,540 --> 00:35:13,380 if you go to michael.team/display, 520 00:35:13,380 --> 00:35:15,340 and we'll add it in the show notes, 521 00:35:15,340 --> 00:35:19,340 then where I explain the many lives of this display 522 00:35:19,340 --> 00:35:20,900 and this display, and you asked me, 523 00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:22,940 what is it doing on my wall? 524 00:35:22,940 --> 00:35:24,820 And I said, I had no clue. 525 00:35:24,820 --> 00:35:27,420 And I just put it there because it's nice. 526 00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:31,580 and I think I'm gonna find a use. So I did find a use. I just had to buy... I'm 527 00:35:31,580 --> 00:35:36,540 explaining the 10 lives of this display. I mean 7 lives of this display. And what I 528 00:35:36,540 --> 00:35:43,060 did was I connected it via Thunderbolt 2 to Thunderbolt 3 dongle, 529 00:35:43,060 --> 00:35:47,860 speaking of dongles. And this way I can connect it to my iPad 13 inch. So as you 530 00:35:47,860 --> 00:35:51,900 can see it's connected to my iPad 13 inch and it can serve as an 531 00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:56,660 external display for my iPad 13 inch but also as a very big display and nice 532 00:35:56,660 --> 00:36:00,700 display for YouTube or Netflix or anything I want to watch. 533 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:05,240 And very often I do need to watch some YouTube videos for my work. 534 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:07,960 And this makes it really, really nice. 535 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,380 So this way I'm really… 536 00:36:10,380 --> 00:36:12,540 Yeah, yeah, this is like… 537 00:36:12,540 --> 00:36:16,380 Are you watching YouTube again? 538 00:36:16,380 --> 00:36:17,380 I'm working, honey. 539 00:36:17,380 --> 00:36:18,380 Exactly, I'm working. 540 00:36:18,380 --> 00:36:20,820 This is very important work, especially here. 541 00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:22,560 I'm watching Trevor Noah's news. 542 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,660 So it's very important for work. 543 00:36:24,660 --> 00:36:25,660 Yeah. 544 00:36:25,660 --> 00:36:30,660 So this is a really cool thing that I can still use this 10 year old display 545 00:36:30,660 --> 00:36:38,660 and use it here with my new iPad Pro using this dongle and then a thunderbolt dongle 546 00:36:38,660 --> 00:36:45,660 and it works beautifully and this display is not retina but from that far away I don't really care 547 00:36:45,660 --> 00:36:49,660 it's good enough and especially for videos it's really very well done 548 00:36:49,660 --> 00:36:53,660 so I was afraid that I would have to throw this away but I didn't have to 549 00:36:53,660 --> 00:36:57,180 have to. So that was good. So there's my update from my home office. 550 00:36:57,180 --> 00:37:06,500 Actually, I took an inspo from you. And you liked it. My Nexus 5 to be a holder for 551 00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:08,620 the whole month. 552 00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:13,340 Yeah. And speaking of MOFT, the company as you mentioned, I am right now using this 553 00:37:13,340 --> 00:37:20,980 MOFT wallet for the iPhone, right? So it works just like the Apple wallet snaps using 554 00:37:20,980 --> 00:37:25,620 the, you know, to the max safe rings. And the cool thing about this wallet is that 555 00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:32,500 it's not thicker than the Apple wallet. But what it does have, it has a stand, 556 00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:39,700 just like the stand that you mentioned on your MacBook and iPad. So this way, 557 00:37:39,700 --> 00:37:46,420 I can put the iPhone like this, so support it like this, or even, 558 00:37:46,420 --> 00:37:52,420 again watching YouTube for work I can put it like this and watch something 559 00:37:52,420 --> 00:37:56,820 yeah so both it works both on portrait and landscape because the MagSafe 560 00:37:56,820 --> 00:38:02,920 magnets are strong enough and so very cool very cool what from MOFT something 561 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,300 that I'm using right now all right actually MOFT and Peak Design are my two 562 00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:13,180 best companies for accessories right now but yeah that's the that's the 563 00:38:13,180 --> 00:38:15,660 - Or another story because I have plenty of them 564 00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:17,700 and haven't tested everything yet. 565 00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:18,540 - Yes, of course. 566 00:38:18,540 --> 00:38:19,900 - Because of the weather, 567 00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:22,500 because some of them is for the bike and so on. 568 00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:26,140 So, but don't worry, we will talk about it in the future. 569 00:38:26,140 --> 00:38:28,080 Okay, let's go back to the desk 570 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,940 because many people asked about other stuff 571 00:38:30,940 --> 00:38:31,780 on the desk as well. 572 00:38:31,780 --> 00:38:35,500 So, yeah, there is Olympus OM-D camera, 573 00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:38,580 but that's already something we talked about. 574 00:38:38,580 --> 00:38:39,860 There's this link light, 575 00:38:40,740 --> 00:38:45,740 There is a Shure M4 7 microphone on the Rode PSA1 arm. 576 00:38:45,740 --> 00:38:50,340 It's awesome. 577 00:38:50,340 --> 00:38:54,680 And what else is interesting. 578 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,280 I have this MacBook Pro connected to this display 579 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,480 with the USB-C and the display itself has two USB-A ports. 580 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,140 So I have there connected my microphone 581 00:39:06,140 --> 00:39:09,500 and my camera via coming. 582 00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:13,500 Of course. And I don't have more USB ports. 583 00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:18,500 Okay, so it works reliably using this screen as a hub. 584 00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:26,500 Yeah, however, today morning I had, because I just installed this Shure+ Motive app to... 585 00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:28,500 To manage the microphone? 586 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:33,500 Yeah, to manage settings of the microphone before the recording. 587 00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:38,500 Yeah, and I didn't see it. I had to reconnect the monitor. 588 00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:46,500 And then it worked. But apparently we will see with the recording if it works. 589 00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:55,500 But you can still hear me so it means it works. I don't have an Ethernet connection so I'm on the Wi-Fi right now. 590 00:39:55,500 --> 00:40:00,500 So you will need to get a download for Thunderbolts to... 591 00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:06,500 Yeah, like it depends which monitor, 27-inch monitor I will choose. 592 00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:09,500 Yeah, so I don't want to buy a donger right now. 593 00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:14,500 Because on V3 it's not perfect, but it's good enough for now. 594 00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:19,500 Yeah, like I measured that the ping is 7 milliseconds, so it's not that bad. 595 00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:24,500 And I think the monitor that Leon has, the 27-inch 4K, has Ethernet port. 596 00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:27,500 I don't think so. 597 00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:28,500 Or maybe not. 598 00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:31,140 I think, yeah, no, I asked Leon. 599 00:40:31,140 --> 00:40:34,860 Leon uses Ethernet via USB 3.0. 600 00:40:34,860 --> 00:40:35,780 - Okay. 601 00:40:35,780 --> 00:40:37,580 - Connected to the monitor, yeah. 602 00:40:37,580 --> 00:40:42,020 So on my desk, there is airport time capsule 603 00:40:42,020 --> 00:40:46,420 that I use for backups and to have Ethernet connection. 604 00:40:46,420 --> 00:40:49,820 I used to use it for Ethernet connection to my iMac 605 00:40:49,820 --> 00:40:53,740 and to my Sony PlayStation 5, which is also on the, 606 00:40:53,740 --> 00:40:54,980 now it's on the desk. 607 00:40:54,980 --> 00:40:56,380 - Yes, it's there. - And it looks gorgeous. 608 00:40:56,380 --> 00:40:58,020 - Yeah, it's very nice. 609 00:40:58,020 --> 00:41:08,500 Yeah, and between them are some IKEA gateway for smart lighting and my new lamp that I 610 00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:12,260 recite from Christmas from my fiancé. 611 00:41:12,260 --> 00:41:14,780 And it is a salt lamp. 612 00:41:14,780 --> 00:41:18,560 It is a salt lamp made from high malayan salt. 613 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,480 It's just a big piece of salt. 614 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,100 So you're basically licking it every day. 615 00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:23,100 And I checked it. 616 00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:24,100 I licked it. 617 00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:25,100 Yes, I licked it. 618 00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:26,100 It's true. 619 00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:27,100 It's salt. 620 00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:31,900 Yeah, it looks awesome. It gives really nice warm light. 621 00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:40,500 Apparently, I haven't verified it, so it may be some BS, but it seems logical, 622 00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:47,500 because the bulb, when it's on, it produces heat. 623 00:41:47,500 --> 00:41:48,900 Ah, of course. 624 00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:55,100 Yeah, so the salt is warm and it results with air being ionized. 625 00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:55,940 - Ah, that's true. 626 00:41:55,940 --> 00:41:57,340 Ah, that's tricky. 627 00:41:57,340 --> 00:42:00,780 - And that helps for, that's the more healthy air, 628 00:42:00,780 --> 00:42:03,860 plus apparently it keeps the dust 629 00:42:03,860 --> 00:42:05,900 out of your electronic devices. 630 00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:06,740 - Okay. 631 00:42:06,740 --> 00:42:10,700 - So again, it may be some BS, marketing BS, 632 00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:14,700 but if it doesn't, it still looks pretty cool. 633 00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:16,420 And I really love that gift. 634 00:42:16,420 --> 00:42:19,300 It was very hard to open because it is very heavy. 635 00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:20,140 - Yeah. 636 00:42:20,140 --> 00:42:22,020 - Yeah, like I found it under the Christmas tree 637 00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:23,540 and whoa, that's heavy. 638 00:42:23,540 --> 00:42:24,900 (both laughing) 639 00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:27,460 What the hell is that? 640 00:42:27,460 --> 00:42:32,780 So you can use it also as a weight for your training. 641 00:42:32,780 --> 00:42:36,540 Oh yeah, actually I didn't think about it. 642 00:42:36,540 --> 00:42:41,100 Here is how it looks like with the IKEA gateway and time capsule. 643 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:45,300 Yeah, and I have also built some LEGO. 644 00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:46,420 OK, yes. 645 00:42:46,420 --> 00:42:51,220 Another inspiration for me, because you did it first. 646 00:42:51,220 --> 00:43:00,220 On the last Nozbe reunion, we received from them this small Q&key keyboard, mechanical keyboard that is programmable. 647 00:43:00,220 --> 00:43:08,220 Yeah, and you build from the Lego set a case for it. 648 00:43:08,220 --> 00:43:15,220 So yeah, and I did the same. I used the Lego you can buy in IKEA. 649 00:43:15,220 --> 00:43:19,660 like it cost like 15 bucks or something like this. 650 00:43:19,660 --> 00:43:24,260 So from the set, I can, I was able to put it pretty nice, 651 00:43:24,260 --> 00:43:27,740 nice colorful case for this. 652 00:43:27,740 --> 00:43:31,140 Yeah, you have this similar case. 653 00:43:31,140 --> 00:43:32,540 - That's my case of Legos. 654 00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:34,360 Very nicely done. 655 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,160 And the keys are in place and there is the connector. 656 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,540 So yeah. 657 00:43:39,540 --> 00:43:44,540 - Yeah, but I don't have a spare USB port on this monitor. 658 00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:46,260 so I haven't connected it yet. 659 00:43:46,260 --> 00:43:47,820 - Oh, okay. 660 00:43:47,820 --> 00:43:52,820 - Yeah, but I'm planning to use it 661 00:43:52,820 --> 00:43:55,100 and it could be very useful during recording 662 00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:57,980 to have the dedicated key, for example, 663 00:43:57,980 --> 00:44:01,500 to run some shortcut that will save me a timestamp 664 00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:04,580 of recording and for example, some note 665 00:44:04,580 --> 00:44:08,660 that this is the new chapter or here the mic is sneezed 666 00:44:08,660 --> 00:44:12,980 or here I need to put something, et cetera, I am. 667 00:44:12,980 --> 00:44:15,560 So that's the idea, how to use it. 668 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,540 And other keys I can use too, 669 00:44:17,540 --> 00:44:20,220 because StreamYard has now some keyboard shortcuts, 670 00:44:20,220 --> 00:44:23,900 so I will be able to switch camera with one key. 671 00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:27,300 One more thing I want to share, but it's really crucial. 672 00:44:27,300 --> 00:44:29,620 I've already shared it like a year ago, 673 00:44:29,620 --> 00:44:32,660 but this is a shelf I have under my desk 674 00:44:32,660 --> 00:44:34,780 and I put iPhone there. 675 00:44:34,780 --> 00:44:38,300 This is custom made by Radek and I put iPhone there 676 00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:40,660 and that way I don't see an iPhone. 677 00:44:40,660 --> 00:44:42,220 And as a result, for example, 678 00:44:42,220 --> 00:44:47,180 when I'm taking a short break from working at a desk 679 00:44:47,180 --> 00:44:49,320 and I go down to the bathroom or to the kitchen 680 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,260 to prepare coffee or something, 681 00:44:52,260 --> 00:44:54,860 I don't see an iPhone, so I don't take it with me. 682 00:44:54,860 --> 00:44:56,540 - Yeah. 683 00:44:56,540 --> 00:44:58,740 - So that way, when I have a short break, 684 00:44:58,740 --> 00:45:02,180 I don't look at iPhone or any other display. 685 00:45:02,180 --> 00:45:05,020 Because, and I found that that's very good 686 00:45:05,020 --> 00:45:10,020 for keeping me in focus and do some chill for my brain. 687 00:45:10,020 --> 00:45:12,140 - Yeah. 688 00:45:12,140 --> 00:45:19,500 to rest from all the internet and displays. So that's the pro tip. Create a shelf like this or 689 00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:29,340 buy one and put iPhone there when you are working. That's really great. So yeah, and I think that's 690 00:45:29,340 --> 00:45:35,580 all from my setup. Of course, all the things I will be listed in the show notes, I will prepare 691 00:45:35,580 --> 00:45:39,660 Nozbehow template with all of this. Yeah, let's do that. Nozbehow template for that would be 692 00:45:39,660 --> 00:45:45,820 awesome. And more cool photos will be there also. Yeah, cool. I'm really happy for you. I'm 693 00:45:45,820 --> 00:45:53,980 really happy that you got the new MacBook Pro that you finally deserved. It was a long wait 694 00:45:53,980 --> 00:46:00,700 because we ordered it mid-November, so it was like one and a half months or something. So it's good 695 00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:02,980 It's good that it arrived and it's there. 696 00:46:02,980 --> 00:46:05,540 And actually Leon, who we mentioned 697 00:46:05,540 --> 00:46:06,980 on this episode several times, 698 00:46:06,980 --> 00:46:09,360 he also ordered a new MacBook Pro. 699 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,180 So he's gonna be also upgrading his home office, I'm sure. 700 00:46:14,180 --> 00:46:15,340 - Yeah, he's gonna be so happy. 701 00:46:15,340 --> 00:46:16,180 - Yeah, yes. 702 00:46:16,180 --> 00:46:19,220 And also one of the things you mentioned, 703 00:46:19,220 --> 00:46:23,040 the big screen, the big ultra-wide screen that Leon has, 704 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,620 my brother has a screen like this 705 00:46:24,620 --> 00:46:27,740 and my brother has a MacBook Air, the M1 MacBook Air. 706 00:46:27,740 --> 00:46:29,820 And he's very happy with this setup, 707 00:46:29,820 --> 00:46:33,340 to have the M1 MacBook Air below the screen 708 00:46:33,340 --> 00:46:35,420 and just use the big screen, 709 00:46:35,420 --> 00:46:37,540 this big ultra-wide screen as his main screen 710 00:46:37,540 --> 00:46:39,140 to manipulate windows, 711 00:46:39,140 --> 00:46:41,540 and then having the MacBook Air below it 712 00:46:41,540 --> 00:46:45,340 with Mail or Nozbe or something opened. 713 00:46:45,340 --> 00:46:50,180 So he is using his MacBook Air like this at his desk, 714 00:46:50,180 --> 00:46:51,540 and he's really happy with this. 715 00:46:51,540 --> 00:46:55,360 - Yeah, actually that's something I have never tried, 716 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,740 but now when I think about it, 717 00:46:58,740 --> 00:47:03,500 it might be even, you can call it ergonomic setup 718 00:47:03,500 --> 00:47:08,280 because the problem with the ergonomics 719 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:13,280 is that you put your body into one fixed position 720 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,780 for the long time. 721 00:47:14,780 --> 00:47:15,620 - Yeah. 722 00:47:15,620 --> 00:47:16,580 - That's the problem always. 723 00:47:16,580 --> 00:47:18,380 Even if you were standing, 724 00:47:18,380 --> 00:47:22,020 even if the monitor is on the height of your eyes. 725 00:47:22,020 --> 00:47:23,260 - Yeah. 726 00:47:23,260 --> 00:47:26,820 - And that way, if you have one monitor on the high level 727 00:47:26,820 --> 00:47:34,740 one lower, you're constantly moving. Not constantly, but once a couple of minutes you're moving. 728 00:47:34,740 --> 00:47:44,580 And that's better than looking straight for the longer period of time or looking only down. 729 00:47:44,580 --> 00:47:52,340 Yes. So that's his setup. It's very simple, but I think also very cool pro tip for everyone who's 730 00:47:52,340 --> 00:47:55,540 who's listening and who wants to improve their setup. 731 00:47:55,540 --> 00:48:00,180 - Yeah, but when I was in Leon's place, 732 00:48:00,180 --> 00:48:02,260 Leon's home office, I compared it. 733 00:48:02,260 --> 00:48:08,020 I displayed some website or some text editor 734 00:48:08,020 --> 00:48:12,940 on this 4K 27 inch display, and it was all sharp, et cetera, 735 00:48:12,940 --> 00:48:16,020 and not hurting my eyes, but on this ultra wide, 736 00:48:16,020 --> 00:48:21,020 it's 1440p height, so it's better than 1080p. 737 00:48:21,020 --> 00:48:29,020 1080p but it's not 4k. 4k level pixels per inch. The font wasn't sharp. 738 00:48:29,020 --> 00:48:38,020 I mean for a long time after you have used iMac 5k you shouldn't downgrade to a non-retina display. 739 00:48:38,020 --> 00:48:48,020 This is a non-starter. I mean that's why you should get the the the 2070 4k or the display that hopefully at some point Apple will be shipping. 740 00:48:48,020 --> 00:48:51,860 which will not be because everybody's complaining that Apple has in their 741 00:48:51,860 --> 00:48:58,620 offering has no 5k display no alternative to the other either offer 742 00:48:58,620 --> 00:49:02,700 you I mean they offer you this glorious MacBook Pros but then they ask you to 743 00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:09,420 pay 6k for a 6k display which is just you know ridiculous it's bananas yes so 744 00:49:09,420 --> 00:49:14,140 so we are hoping I mean the whole community of Apple enthusiasts are 745 00:49:14,140 --> 00:49:21,660 hoping for an Apple branded, you know, 2K as in price of $2,000 display that, you 746 00:49:21,660 --> 00:49:26,720 know, or $1,500 or $2,000 display which would be 747 00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:35,180 glorious, beautiful, but not super HDR like the 6K display. So we'll see 748 00:49:35,180 --> 00:49:40,220 we'll see if Apple gives us this, but if not then the 27 4K display is a good 749 00:49:40,220 --> 00:49:45,260 option. Yeah, I will probably go with it and we will see later what happens but 750 00:49:45,260 --> 00:49:52,660 good 4k 27 inches max 1k 1000 bucks. So anyway we are running long so I think we 751 00:49:52,660 --> 00:49:59,820 should cut this one short. Yeah. We never have time for your iPad mini review. Yeah, 752 00:49:59,820 --> 00:50:08,620 like I have two topics still pending for like for two months now. Yes, but we'll get there. 753 00:50:08,620 --> 00:50:15,420 I think it's a good conclusion and it's a good inspiration that you gave us today that 754 00:50:15,420 --> 00:50:20,460 one of the things you should do when planning your year and setting up for a year is to 755 00:50:20,460 --> 00:50:25,380 shake things up, change your home office, and get inspired from my blog posts, from 756 00:50:25,380 --> 00:50:29,940 my review of my home office, from your review from your home office, from your photos, and 757 00:50:29,940 --> 00:50:31,220 optimize your home office. 758 00:50:31,220 --> 00:50:32,700 Change it a little bit. 759 00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:33,700 You don't have to buy new gadgets. 760 00:50:33,700 --> 00:50:36,300 You don't have to buy new MacBook Pros to do that. 761 00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:41,460 But just the fact that, you know, rethink how it's set up, see what you can change, 762 00:50:41,460 --> 00:50:43,920 or like in my case, see what you can reuse. 763 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,260 Like I can reuse my 10-year-old's display and it's useful now. 764 00:50:48,260 --> 00:50:49,580 All that stuff. 765 00:50:49,580 --> 00:50:55,520 It's a good idea for the new year to make the home office a little bit different because 766 00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:00,880 this will also like shake things up in your head and maybe inspire you for new ideas, 767 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,200 new thoughts, and better solutions for whatever you're working on. 768 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,000 Let's wrap up this episode. 769 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,800 Michael, what day is tomorrow? 770 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,880 - It's Friday and make it a mighty Friday, please. 771 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,200 - Yes, do your weekly review, 772 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,800 plan priorities for next week, 773 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,640 maybe rerun some stuff on your desk to refresh it, 774 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,440 to be more ergonomic, more productive, 775 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,440 and learn something new to have a great weekend. 776 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,160 And if you enjoyed this episode, 777 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,280 please feel free to help support this show 778 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,320 either by sharing it with a friend 779 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:37,080 leaving us a nice review in Apple Podcast. Or the best thing you can do is to check out 780 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:43,280 our great app Nozbe Teams. So thanks for listening. And that's it for today. Say goodbye, Michael. 781 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:48,060 Okay. Goodbye. Have a great mighty Friday and maybe use this Friday for the home office 782 00:51:48,060 --> 00:51:53,360 renovation that you've been thinking about. And have a great year and stay healthy. Stay 783 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:53,860 fresh. 784 00:51:53,860 --> 00:52:06,740 [Music] 785 00:52:06,740 --> 00:52:09,940 This episode has not been created in the office. 786 00:52:09,940 --> 00:52:12,500 Because in Nozbe, there is no office. 787 00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:16,260 Your hosts were Michael Sliwinski and Rafał Sobolewski. 788 00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:21,460 all the links and show notes you can find on nooffice.fm/33. 789 00:52:22,180 --> 00:52:27,940 The whole production process has been coordinated in a project in a Nozbe Teams app. 790 00:52:27,940 --> 00:52:33,060 Work is not a place to go, it is a thing that you do. 791 00:52:33,060 --> 00:52:38,980 Thank you and see you in two weeks. Remember to have a mighty Friday! 792 00:52:38,980 --> 00:52:41,560 (upbeat music) 793 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,140 (upbeat music) 794 00:52:44,140 --> 00:52:46,720 (upbeat music) 795 00:52:46,720 --> 00:53:03,720 [Music]