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<v Speaker 1>Well, today we're going to be looking at Paul's resume

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<v Speaker 1>as he lists all of his credentials.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this is kind of the basis behind his

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<v Speaker 2>authority and his right to encourage and challenge the Corinthians.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what we're talking about today. He's Chris and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Jeff, and we're the Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So every day we start out with a segment and

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that was handed to us today was something

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<v Speaker 1>that we do from time to time called stump the Pastor.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, these questions come from people who

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be able to have a list of things that

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<v Speaker 1>we can go through. So this comes from Angela V.

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<v Speaker 1>And Angela V writes this question, why do we have

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<v Speaker 1>to bear the burdens of Adam and Eve's sin when

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<v Speaker 1>he God could have arranged things so that each one

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<v Speaker 1>of us had the chance to be born with a

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<v Speaker 1>clean slate and make our own mistakes free of a

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<v Speaker 1>tainted universe.

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<v Speaker 2>But first of all, wow, what a question. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a thinker's question, right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah for sure, you know. I mean because by the

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<v Speaker 1>way that question is seems to be born out of

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<v Speaker 1>that's not fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, It's like I inherited a sin nature from Adam

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<v Speaker 1>and Eve. How is that fair?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I wish I could have taken my own shot

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<v Speaker 2>at this sinlessness thing. Yeah yeah, yeah. Well, one, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we all would have failed, you know, yeah on

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<v Speaker 2>this because we have a free will, and free wills

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<v Speaker 2>tend to choose self. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, true love cannot exist without free will. So

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<v Speaker 1>God could have made us like robots, right, He could

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<v Speaker 1>have created us to make us love him and respond,

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<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't. He decides to give us free will

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<v Speaker 1>to choose good and evil, choose love or not love.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's because that is truly love, and we were

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<v Speaker 1>made and created to love and be a relationship with God, so.

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<v Speaker 2>That this whole human story is a love story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, yeah, So anyway, go ahead and continue.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, so I get to answer this one?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, we could both answer it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so one, I think, on the surface, the

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<v Speaker 2>best answer is the Bible doesn't specifically say why.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, well, most of these questions are I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are a lot of biblical principles that we

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<v Speaker 2>can kind of extract from sure, and I think a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of scientific things. First off, Romans and Corinthians both

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<v Speaker 2>talked about how like in Romans it says, wherefore is

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<v Speaker 2>by one man sinning into the world and death by sin?

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<v Speaker 2>So death passed upon all men for all of sin.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the premise behind this question. Okay, so Adam sinned

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<v Speaker 2>and so then ah, now we are We're all sinners.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all born with the sin nature. So then it

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<v Speaker 2>goes on in Romans and says, so then because one

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<v Speaker 2>person was willing to die, he could die for all

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<v Speaker 2>sin too. The second atom or second a Jesus, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, so God. So we tend to think of

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves only from the perspective of being autonomous individuals, and

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<v Speaker 2>yes we are, we have a free will, but we

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<v Speaker 2>are also part of humanity, and so we all emanate

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<v Speaker 2>from Adam and Eve. We all come from them. So

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<v Speaker 2>things that are broken. So this this really gets into

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<v Speaker 2>biology a little bit. The whole concept of progeny, the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of the sharing of DNA in order in order

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, make the next life all of these things.

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<v Speaker 2>And so these two broken dying creatures, they were living creatures,

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<v Speaker 2>then they were broken dying creatures. They were made to

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<v Speaker 2>live forever the original Yes, yes, they were made to

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<v Speaker 2>live forever. Then they sinned, and the Bible says immediately

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<v Speaker 2>they began to die. That was the idea that you

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<v Speaker 2>will die in his physical spiritual death. So then at

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<v Speaker 2>this point then they had this broken genetics. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>of the brokenness of the universe. Everything broke, Nature broke,

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<v Speaker 2>everything broke at that point. And then you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>man and woman comes together and they blend DNA, and

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<v Speaker 2>then that gets passed on, that gets passed on. So

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<v Speaker 2>in the process of progeny, the process of new life,

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<v Speaker 2>we're also being it's being handed off from already sinful creatures,

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<v Speaker 2>broken creatures. And it's in that context then that we

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<v Speaker 2>are all related back to Adam with the we were formed.

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<v Speaker 2>We were created in in in with with sin, right,

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<v Speaker 2>not in sin, but with sin. But that's the bad news.

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<v Speaker 2>The good news is then that also makes it possible

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<v Speaker 2>with Jesus being the second atom, jesus one sacrifice pays

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<v Speaker 2>the price for all of humanity as well, right, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a beautiful picture.

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<v Speaker 1>And and it's it's really something that I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>people think about, but it's a great truth to understand that,

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<v Speaker 1>uh that uh, you know, generations pass on the physical

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<v Speaker 1>and so and then only that, but even our personalities

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<v Speaker 1>are very much like our traits, our traits everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's also a spiritual part of every human being.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a soul and there's a spirit and so it's

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<v Speaker 1>important to recognize that it wasn't just a physical death

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<v Speaker 1>that was you know, that came from the curse of sin.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a spiritual death right and that and that

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<v Speaker 1>that that they became sin full, and that portion also

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<v Speaker 1>gets passed down to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I don't understand it all. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible's not a science book. I believe it's accurate

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<v Speaker 2>with what it says about scientific things.

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<v Speaker 1>Belise there's a lot of science in there, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a.

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<v Speaker 2>Science book, so it doesn't really get into all these things.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do know this that you know, it talks

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<v Speaker 2>about how sin is passed down from generations generation, that

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<v Speaker 2>the father sins will be visited on the third and

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<v Speaker 2>fourth generation. We do know now here in the last

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five years or so, as we've really begun to

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<v Speaker 2>dig into DNA, we do know that there are genetic

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<v Speaker 2>predispositions for alcoholism within certain families. Sure that some families,

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<v Speaker 2>some people they can touch alcoholics not a problem. Other

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<v Speaker 2>people they drink alcohol one time and they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be alcoholics or whatever. That We do know that there

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<v Speaker 2>are genetic predispositions for anger. We know that there are

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<v Speaker 2>genetic predispositions for aggression. We know that there's genetic predispositions

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<v Speaker 2>for intelligence and lack thereof. We know that there's a

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<v Speaker 2>genetic predisposition for so many things that wind up being

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<v Speaker 2>negatives in our life. And that comes because now God

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<v Speaker 2>did not create us that way. Sin broke us, and

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<v Speaker 2>those broken pieces then get passed on through Adam's children.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just what happens. So God didn't create you sinful.

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<v Speaker 2>God created your parents perfect, you know, in Adam and Eve,

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<v Speaker 2>and then with Adam and Eve being broken, all of

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<v Speaker 2>their progeny is broken and only Jesus can fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that movie came to mind. Do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>The Emperor's New Groove? Yes, you called Adam and Eve

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<v Speaker 1>our parents. Remember that scene where she goes great great

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<v Speaker 1>great great great great great aunt. Remember that no twice removed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, I'm about myself. It's pretty it's pretty sophisticated.

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<v Speaker 2>Though it sounds like, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well groove is great, so so so yeah they

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<v Speaker 1>are parents a long time ago. And so the question

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<v Speaker 1>then is not just practical, but also there's a second

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<v Speaker 1>side of that question, which is couldn't God have done that? Right? So,

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<v Speaker 1>if God decided to make every individual born with a

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<v Speaker 1>clean slate according to this question, right, and maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>things aren't passed down and we all start brand new.

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<v Speaker 2>If life began with storks dropping babies off at houses, yes, right,

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<v Speaker 2>where we weren't physically connected or genetically connected to other humans,

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<v Speaker 2>and every every parent relationship was just an adoptive relationship

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<v Speaker 2>where each each person is spontaneously created in some way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not what he did. That's not what he did.

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<v Speaker 1>And if he did do that, my feeling is all

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<v Speaker 1>of us would fail anyway, absolutely, because the Bible tells

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<v Speaker 1>us that no person can keep all of the law.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, because God is sinless and he is he

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<v Speaker 1>is perfect, and our nature is not that that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. So the official answer would be, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure that the Bible actually says specifically why. He

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't always say why. He just says what most of

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<v Speaker 2>the time. Right, that's right, that's what it does. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think that this is a really great thinking question.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that, Angela, it really shows kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>depth of thought in asking it. And I'll be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, Angela, I've asked those same kind of questions

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<v Speaker 2>before too. That's great. Yeah, I think it's a really good,

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<v Speaker 2>really good way of looking at it. The issue would

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<v Speaker 2>be this, it's okay that God didn't do it that way,

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<v Speaker 2>love story, then I mean, this is that typical epic

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<v Speaker 2>story that we tell over and over and over again

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<v Speaker 2>in our movies. You're a movie buff in our movies

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<v Speaker 2>over and over and over again. Some of the greatest movies,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the greatest dramas, the best stories throughout human

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<v Speaker 2>history are always you know, there's the beloved, and the

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<v Speaker 2>And then the hero comes and a great peril to himself,

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<v Speaker 2>willing to sacrifice everything, comes and rescues his beloved and

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<v Speaker 2>free and defeat the evil one. We tell that story

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<v Speaker 2>over and over and over again, just with different different

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<v Speaker 2>you know, characters or whatever. But we've been telling that

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<v Speaker 2>think deep down in saide, we know that is the

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<v Speaker 2>story humanity right, that really is right. And so there's

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<v Speaker 2>some value I think in saying, Okay, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>way God chose, and I'm in that system. God's not unfair.

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<v Speaker 2>God only always does good, and he delights in the

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<v Speaker 2>love story he's telling. And the good news is you

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<v Speaker 2>have the ability and the autonomy to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>choose love or choose yourself. That's it, right, And by

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<v Speaker 2>turning to the move of the Holy Spirit, he draws

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<v Speaker 2>you to the Father. Right. The work of Jesus on

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<v Speaker 2>the cross pays the price. But there is a moment

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<v Speaker 2>when you are confronted with your sin, and either you

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<v Speaker 2>repent and turn to Christ and experience the love of

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<v Speaker 2>Christ through forgiveness of sins, or you don't. And that

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<v Speaker 2>is the that's the story of humanity, and that's the

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful story that he's telling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wey, we spend more time on that than any

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<v Speaker 1>other segment. But it's probably okay because Paul here gives

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<v Speaker 1>his credentials and really there's not much more to this

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<v Speaker 1>other than Paul defending his authority. Wouldn't you say, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a couple of good leadership things in here, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, this is mostly a conversation between

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<v Speaker 2>him and the Corinthians. Yeah, for chapter ten, but let's

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<v Speaker 2>read it because I think there's always value. God included

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<v Speaker 2>it for a reason, he says. Now, I, Paul, appeal

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<v Speaker 2>you now so that when I come, I won't have

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<v Speaker 2>teach them to obey Christ. And after you have become

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<v Speaker 2>fully obedient, we will punish everyone who remains disobedient. Look

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<v Speaker 2>at the obvious facts. Those who say they belong to

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<v Speaker 2>as they do. I may seem to be boasting too

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<v Speaker 2>much about the authority given to us by the Lord,

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<v Speaker 2>but our authority builds you up, it doesn't tear you down.

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<v Speaker 2>So I will not be ashamed of using my authority.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to frighten you by my letters. For

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<v Speaker 2>around and find out that's what you're saying. We don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>These being a little sarcastic. Yeah, but they are only

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<v Speaker 2>about things done outside our area of authority. We will

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<v Speaker 2>boast only about what has happened within the boundaries of

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<v Speaker 2>with you. We're not reaching beyond these boundaries when we

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<v Speaker 2>claim authority over you, as if we have never visited you,

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<v Speaker 2>for we were the first to travel all the way

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<v Speaker 2>to Corinth with the good news of Christ. Nor do

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<v Speaker 2>we boast and claim credit for the work someone else

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<v Speaker 2>has done. Instead, we hope that your faith will grow

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<v Speaker 2>so that the boundaries of our work among you will

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<v Speaker 2>be extended. Then we will be able to go and

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<v Speaker 2>preach the good news in other places, far beyond you,

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<v Speaker 2>where no one else is working. Then there will be

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<v Speaker 2>else's territory. As the scriptures say, if you want to boast,

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<v Speaker 2>boast only about the Lord when people commend themselves, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't count for much. The important thing is for the

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<v Speaker 2>Lord to come in them. So apparently somebody's saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul's a tough guy in his letters and he's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>super weak when he's in person. And Paul's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll prove it to you. But there's so many other

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<v Speaker 2>good statements in here besides him just saying, listen, the

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm the one who came and started the church. There.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to claim authority where I haven't done work.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm only claiming authority where I did start the work.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>actually not going to read, but I want to reference

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<v Speaker 1>just how great it is. And the Life Application and

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<v Speaker 1>Study Bible. There's an entire chart, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love charts. And what they do is they do all

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<v Speaker 1>the homework for you, is what they do, and they

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<v Speaker 1>sort of list all of Paul's credentials. What's so amazing

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<v Speaker 1>chapter thirteen, they list these are Paul's credentials. I'm only

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<v Speaker 1>chapter one, verse one, Paul says he was commissioned by

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<v Speaker 1>God himself chapter one, verse number twelve. He acted in holiness, sincerity,

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<v Speaker 1>world in general, especially with Corinthians. So he goes down

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<v Speaker 1>the line and he actually lists all the credentials. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, because you know, it is important, I

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<v Speaker 1>think to sometimes zoom out and have a thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>in here, right, and that's true. But when you zoom

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<v Speaker 1>out and you look at the entire letter of Second Corinthians,

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<v Speaker 1>we know how important it is for Paul to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>defend his authority, you know, to convince the Corinthians that

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<v Speaker 1>his words matter, and then also to model for them

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<v Speaker 1>what a good leader should do, not all these false

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<v Speaker 1>leaders who boast about themselves how ignorant, Paul says.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Paul is literally.

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<v Speaker 1>If you got on this list. Verse by verse, it

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<v Speaker 1>talks about how he has the Holy Spirit, how he

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<v Speaker 1>spoke truthfully, how he was straightforward and sincere in his letters,

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<v Speaker 1>how he actually spoke with authority, he did not give up,

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<v Speaker 1>He taught the Bible with integrity, and it just goes

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<v Speaker 1>on and on and on, and it's so important, I

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<v Speaker 1>think to get a thirty thousand foot view of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, I think we need to do

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<v Speaker 1>that with our lives. Yes, we need to actually you know,

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<v Speaker 1>view individual conversations, personal moments, you know, segments of moments

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<v Speaker 1>for what they are, but also to step back every

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<v Speaker 2>While and say, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, that's what New Year's resolutions do,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, you know they step back and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>my life?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, it's really cool. So you know, this was necessary. This,

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of idea was necessary because you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't just pick up the phone. There wasn't any you know,

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<v Speaker 2>zoom meetings that he could do. He couldn't hop on

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<v Speaker 2>a plane and shoot over there real quick, or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get in the car and be there in a few hours,

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<v Speaker 2>and so what would happen is he comes in, he

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<v Speaker 2>when he leaves them, they're just kind of on their own,

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever other teachers come in can skew what had

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<v Speaker 2>happened before. And it would be so long a period

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<v Speaker 2>of time between communications because of the nature of having

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<v Speaker 2>to write these letters and the fact there were no

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<v Speaker 2>planes or cars or you know that kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>internet or communication devices, and so he would have to

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<v Speaker 2>remind his other leaders listen, you can trust me, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because there'd be other people that would come in and

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<v Speaker 2>try to take advantage. And this happens throughout. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Greeks and the Romans were fairly sophisticated. They were

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly sophisticated for their day. Hey, we still don't build

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<v Speaker 2>buildings that last as long as their buildings do, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. They're roads. I've been on roads

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<v Speaker 2>that were built two thousand years ago, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>drive down Michigan roads and think, hey, we should put

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<v Speaker 2>Romans in charge of building our roads. Right. So many

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<v Speaker 2>things that they did were very sophisticated. They were highly educated,

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<v Speaker 2>They had great economic and political systems, very interesting sophisticated,

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<v Speaker 2>but village to village to village. Because there was such

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<v Speaker 2>many of them were simplistic in their thinking. And so

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<v Speaker 2>then somebody comes in and uses religious words that sound

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like the words Paul was using, but they

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<v Speaker 2>back in and say, listen, when I'm providing correction. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>You can trust me. I'm the one who suffers for

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<v Speaker 2>the gospel. I'm not prospering from you. Remember when he

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<v Speaker 2>came in, he said, I didn't even charge you any money. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>He's trying to say, listen, you can trust me because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to take advantage. And he has to

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<v Speaker 2>keep reminding me of that. And I think it's because

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<v Speaker 2>of the fact that they had limited information and fairly

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<v Speaker 1>I love how Paul from time to time in these

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<v Speaker 1>last three podcasts that we've done, every time Paul has

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<v Speaker 1>quoted the Old Testament. Yeah, you know, Paul grew up

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<v Speaker 1>as a scholar. You know, he was born a Jew,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he was a Roman citizen. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>member of He was a Pharisee for sure, claimed to

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<v Speaker 1>be a Pharisee. And then also people believe that he

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<v Speaker 1>might have even been a member of the Samehedron. He

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<v Speaker 1>certainly was an intern, you know, working up to be

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<v Speaker 2>So Sanhedron being kind of the religious supreme court of

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and you know Acts chapter number nine tells us this,

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<v Speaker 1>it says that Paul was standing by holding the people's

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<v Speaker 1>coats who were stoning and consenting to his death. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we knew he was around those things. He was

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<v Speaker 1>working towards those things. Anyway, all that to say, Paul's

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<v Speaker 1>credentials of knowing the Old Testament were you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>about as high as anyone. And so I love how

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<v Speaker 1>he weaves in scriptures. And I keep in mind he's

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, for Jews, they would say, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>look how you wove the scriptures that we all know

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<v Speaker 1>into the truths of today. But for the Greeks, he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing the same thing, and he's taking you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>highlights in a lot of times Jeremiah nine twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>he talks about He says, as the scriptures say, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to boast, boast only in the Lord. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's really taking a modern day thing here about people

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<v Speaker 1>boasting about themselves, and he says, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, you know, if you take.

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<v Speaker 1>The selves out of the equation, and we'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to preach the good news and nobody will question our

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<v Speaker 1>boasting because will be about ourselves as a scripture says,

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<v Speaker 1>boast about God.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then lastly, as we wrap up, the one

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<v Speaker 2>war as humans do, right. We use God's mighty weapons,

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<v Speaker 2>people from knowing God. Right, our pride are reasoning all

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<v Speaker 2>these things and he said, Listen, we don't wage war

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<v Speaker 2>like the world wages war. People aren't our enemy, he

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<v Speaker 2>tells us in Book of Romans. Right, we're not fighting

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<v Speaker 2>careful when it comes to debate about getting sucked into

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<v Speaker 2>all these things. Instead, he says, we don't fight the

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<v Speaker 2>back and use God's weapons, which is his word, his words,

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<v Speaker 2>And if we can avoid getting caught up in the

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<v Speaker 2>surperfluous fighting and argument in the world, I think you'd

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot more peace in our lives. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we'd have a lot more joy in our lives because

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<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't be getting caught up in the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else is fighting about all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a great place to end, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>see you next time. All the Bible guys