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<v Speaker 1>Well, Jeff, you know what's amazing today is how in

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<v Speaker 1>the first century, how they knew there was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a band called Jars of Clay.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and boy, that's a shout out from when the nineties. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was the last time you were cool. So

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<v Speaker 3>he's Chris and I'm Jeff. I was never cool, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're the Bible guys. Okay, fu man, I took a

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<v Speaker 3>shot at you. I don't know why that was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of me.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I've heard you say before though.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a funny joke that just sort of comes out

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<v Speaker 1>whenever the opportunity presents itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's we're both getting old, is what's happening right right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So it doesn't seem like it was that long ago

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<v Speaker 3>that Jars of Clay was cool.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a TikTok that said, when somebody says thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, he goes, I think of the nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 4>But the reality is he goes, it was just before

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<v Speaker 4>the turn of this.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes in the nineties, and.

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<v Speaker 4>He goes, I need to stop and take a nap.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're just getting old, man.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, those of you that have been faithful listeners,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that Chris and I really play close attention

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<v Speaker 3>to the headlines, especially from trustworthy news sources like the

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<v Speaker 3>Babylon be right, and if you don't know, the Babylon

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<v Speaker 3>b is a satire site and very funny. People seem

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<v Speaker 3>to get confused by that. It's my favorite mainstream media.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of my favorite segments because it's such sophisticated humor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So this one today, this article is all about the Book.

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<v Speaker 2>Of First Corinthians.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the premise is the headline is early church

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<v Speaker 3>leaders excited for letter from Paul that probably says how

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<v Speaker 3>good they're doing? Right, So they have not yet read

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<v Speaker 3>the letter, right, and they're excited because they just got it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the picture of some guy like they're all smiles

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<v Speaker 1>and they're opening up a scroll.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So here it is corinth elders at the church in

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<v Speaker 3>Corinth assembled their flock ahead of the Lord's Day excite

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<v Speaker 3>did the read a letter that had been delivered on

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<v Speaker 3>behalf of the apostle Paul. Church leadership was reportedly eager

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<v Speaker 3>to have the contents of the letter read since it

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<v Speaker 3>would probably say what a good job they were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Paul totally loves us.

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas, a church member told the unidentified courier who carried

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<v Speaker 3>the letter all the way from Ephesus, I just knew

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<v Speaker 3>he'd write us. I'm pretty sure we're best friends. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he baptized me himself. I'm not like one of those

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<v Speaker 3>dweebs who got baptized by Apollos. It's funny because Paul

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<v Speaker 3>didn't baptize hardly anybody in Corinth. By the way, this

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<v Speaker 3>is THEO who's part of Team Cephis admits he's especially

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<v Speaker 3>excited to hear what Paul thinks of their various clubs

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<v Speaker 3>and cliques that divide.

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<v Speaker 2>The church up in fun ways.

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<v Speaker 4>That's really good.

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<v Speaker 3>We've gone to great lengths to encourage divisions so that

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<v Speaker 3>each of us can worship God in our own way

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<v Speaker 3>based on which teacher we follow, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet Paul is super impressed.

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<v Speaker 4>So good.

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<v Speaker 3>The free spirited congregation is also expecting high marks for

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<v Speaker 3>how they aren't super judgy and didn't yell at Steve

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<v Speaker 3>when he started sleeping with his father's wife because that

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<v Speaker 3>would have.

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<v Speaker 2>Been mean that.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you could say we've got this, said gayis

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<v Speaker 3>a church member who was also baptized by Paul. I

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<v Speaker 3>think this letter is going to be a real morale booster.

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<v Speaker 3>At publishing times, some members of the Corinthian Church were

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<v Speaker 3>arguing that the letter must be a forgery because it

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<v Speaker 3>was so rude.

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<v Speaker 4>That's so good, that's so good.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything that they were proud of. Remember, because he all

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<v Speaker 3>through the Book of first and you're even proud of this,

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<v Speaker 3>right right, And then he'd have to smack him down

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<v Speaker 3>and then so that's what this.

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<v Speaker 2>Whole lot article is about. So very funny.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Well, we're jumping into chapter four today, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and talking about this idea of jars of clay, which

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<v Speaker 5>is just a fantastic description quite honestly, of how Christians

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<v Speaker 5>function and serve and how God intends to do his

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<v Speaker 5>work even with imperfect vessels.

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<v Speaker 2>So here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just going to read Second Corinthians chapter four. He says, Therefore,

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<v Speaker 3>since God in his mercy has given us this new way,

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<v Speaker 3>we never give up. We reject to all shameful deeds

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<v Speaker 3>and underhanded methods. We don't try to trick anyone or

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<v Speaker 3>destroy their word of God. We tell the truth before God,

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<v Speaker 3>and all who are honest know this. If the good

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<v Speaker 3>news we preach is hidden behind a veil, it's hidden

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<v Speaker 3>only from people who are perishing. Satan, who is the

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<v Speaker 3>who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious

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<v Speaker 3>light of the good news. They don't understand this message

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<v Speaker 3>about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness

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<v Speaker 3>of God. You see, we don't go around preaching about ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>We preach that Jesus Christ is the Lord, and we

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<v Speaker 3>ourselves are your servants for jesus sake. For God, who

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<v Speaker 3>said let there be light in the darkness, has made

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<v Speaker 3>this light shine in our hearts so we could know

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<v Speaker 3>the glory of God that is seen in the face

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<v Speaker 3>of Jesus Christ. We know we have this. We now

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<v Speaker 3>have this light shining in our hearts. But we ourselves

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<v Speaker 3>are like fragile clay jars containing this great treasure. This

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<v Speaker 3>makes it clear that our great power is from God,

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<v Speaker 3>not from ourselves. We are pressed on every side by troubles,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're not crushed, replexed, but not driven to despair.

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<v Speaker 3>We are hunted down, but never abandoned by God. We're

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<v Speaker 3>knocked down, but we're not destroyed through suffering. Our bodies

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<v Speaker 3>continue to share in the death of Jesus so that

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<v Speaker 3>the life of Jesus may also be seen in our bodies. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we live under constant danger of death because we serve Jesus,

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<v Speaker 3>so that the life of Jesus will be evident in

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<v Speaker 3>our dying bodies. So we live in the face of death.

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<v Speaker 3>But this has resulted in eternal life for you. But

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<v Speaker 3>we continue to preach because we have the same kind

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<v Speaker 3>of faith as Psalma said when he said, I believe

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<v Speaker 3>in God, so I spoke. We know that God, who

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<v Speaker 3>raised the Lord Jesus, will also raise us with Jesus

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<v Speaker 3>and present us to himself together with you. All of

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<v Speaker 3>this is for your benefit. And as God's grace reaches

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<v Speaker 3>more and more people, there will be great thanksgiving and

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<v Speaker 3>God will receive more and more glory. That is why

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<v Speaker 3>we never give up. Though our bodies are dying, our

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<v Speaker 3>spirits are being renewed every day. For our present troubles

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<v Speaker 3>are small and won't last very long. Yet they produce

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<v Speaker 3>for us a glory that vastly outweigh them and will

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<v Speaker 3>last forever. So we don't look at the troubles we

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<v Speaker 3>can see now, rather we fix our gaze on things

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<v Speaker 3>that cannot be seen. For the things we see now

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<v Speaker 3>will soon be gone, but the things we cannot see

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is pretty wonderful that Paul is able to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, use visual aids because I'm a visual aid guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I love visuals and I love the comparisons. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday we talked about the veil. Paul used that as

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<v Speaker 1>an illustration, and he refers back to it as well.

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<v Speaker 4>But then he.

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<v Speaker 1>Also sort of, you know, launches right into this idea

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<v Speaker 1>of like it's we're jars of clay, and it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>not us that are important or valuable. In fact, we

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<v Speaker 1>are nothing more than just you know, everybody knew jars.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we know what jars of clay are. You

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<v Speaker 1>Clay's made from the ground, and you know, they're a

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<v Speaker 1>dime a dozen, and they break easily, and they're worth

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<v Speaker 1>really hardly anything, and they're really common.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's what you.

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<v Speaker 1>Put in the jars of clay that has the potential

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<v Speaker 1>to be very precious.

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<v Speaker 2>The value is what's inside.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, what's inside, And that's that's what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jesus is in us, the light of God is

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<v Speaker 1>in us, the Gospel is in us, the power.

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<v Speaker 4>Of God is in us.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Paul also makes reference again about not having

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<v Speaker 1>to boast about himself that it sort of connects to

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<v Speaker 1>that further.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, like, we're not we don't need.

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<v Speaker 1>Letters of recommendation, right, We're not talking about the power

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<v Speaker 1>in ourselves. We do not have to boast about ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>because Jesus Christ is the one who's the power in us.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And the jars of clay concept, what he's trying

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<v Speaker 3>to explain is he's trying to be humble. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think that this is important recognizing that apart from the message,

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<v Speaker 3>this valuable message that he's carrying, he's nothing, Right, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just a jar of clay, as are all of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Our importance doesn't come from ourselves. It comes from the

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<v Speaker 3>importance of the fact that God has chosen to give

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<v Speaker 3>value to us, right, And so the value is in

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<v Speaker 3>God and in his message, in the good News, in

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<v Speaker 3>the Gospel, in this mission that he's on. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's kind of a sweet way to say it

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<v Speaker 3>that Hey, I'm not perfect. That's what he's saying I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not perfect, and neither are any of the rest of us.

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<v Speaker 3>So these imperfect people are carrying this perfect message of God.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, oftentimes we'll see Christian people that we

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<v Speaker 3>look up to or that you know, should be people

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<v Speaker 3>of integrity, who have they trip up, or they fail

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<v Speaker 3>or they fall. And sometimes people are tempted to reject

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<v Speaker 3>the treasure of God's good news because this jar of

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<v Speaker 3>Clay broke right. And I just try to keep that

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<v Speaker 3>in perspective that, hey, you know, people around me will

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<v Speaker 3>send even people that I look up to, are imperfect,

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<v Speaker 3>but that doesn't minimize the value of the great message

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<v Speaker 3>of the truth of Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It also reminds me of how I remember when I

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<v Speaker 1>was learning how to preach, and I do mean learning right.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to get a bunch of reps right when

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<v Speaker 1>you speak, And there's that This isn't a quantity versus,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like like more versus and a message aren't better.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not more spiritual.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as as long as everything you say points

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<v Speaker 1>toward whatever scripture you do use, right, Like in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>you can you can do one verse and then spend

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes applying that verse.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the idea is to expose the meaning of the Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>But as long as the I guess what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 3>is as long as the focus is God's word, not

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So it's not about the quantity of verses that

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<v Speaker 1>you use. However, I remember when I was actually starting

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<v Speaker 1>myself and and uh, you know, because I'm a good

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<v Speaker 1>storyteller and I know that, and so I tell stories

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<v Speaker 3>Which is the temptation for most speakers.

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<v Speaker 4>And I remember thinking, oh, man, that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>So there is this need for, you know, people to

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the paid preachers. He's talking about people who

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<v Speaker 3>are willing to declare God's words, right, Right. So that's anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>declaring God's words. But he says faith comes by hearing,

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<v Speaker 3>hearing by the word of God. They need to hear

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<v Speaker 3>from a preacher. So one of the things I try

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<v Speaker 3>to keep in mind is there's my words, There's God's words.

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<v Speaker 3>To to make sure that we're you know what, in

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<v Speaker 3>Hebrews it says that the word of God is quick

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead and stick God's words in more than my words, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and let them do the cutting. I don't want my

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<v Speaker 3>do the cutting on people's hearts and lives. And there's

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<v Speaker 3>that that really find balance. So that's the concept. Is

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<v Speaker 3>or the gold treasure of the words of God?

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<v Speaker 2>Right now?

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<v Speaker 3>We carry them. We carry the one in the other right,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the amazing thing that God has decided for

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<v Speaker 3>He's entrusting the treasure of his words in clay pots

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<v Speaker 3>like all of us. And that's what an incredible privilege.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the fact that you talked about how we're

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<v Speaker 4>We are all pastors.

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<v Speaker 1>We are you know, the Bible talks about in the

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<v Speaker 1>Old in the New Testament, the priesthood of all believers,

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<v Speaker 1>how we are gifted. And so you know, we're we're gifted.

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<v Speaker 1>And the word pastor is not just a title. It

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<v Speaker 1>is actually referred to as a spiritual gift, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the one who cares. And and so there's teachers, pastors,

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<v Speaker 1>there's all sorts of gifts, and yeah, sometimes they can

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<v Speaker 1>be titles, but more importantly, they're given to the believers

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<v Speaker 1>as spiritual gifts. And there are just some people who

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<v Speaker 1>have the gifts of teaching. They just do and and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and and they're found all over the place. In fact, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just recently one of our one of our

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<v Speaker 1>I found out later.

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<v Speaker 4>But uh, but I actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Looked at one of our guys and I said, I

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<v Speaker 4>The gift of teaching. Like she's unbelievable. I'm like, how

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<v Speaker 4>often does she teach? She's like, well, she doesn't teach

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<v Speaker 4>on stage, but she sure does teach a lot, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and that's sort of the picture, isn't it. The

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<v Speaker 4>That's really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to be on stage to worship. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to be on stage to serve.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes we kind of in the format of how we

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<v Speaker 3>do Western church services, it kind of elevates the people

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<v Speaker 3>that are standing on stage. But when we read the

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<v Speaker 3>words that Paul's writing here, he's either talking about himself

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<v Speaker 3>or he's talking about the entire church, right, He's not

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<v Speaker 3>talking about just those preachers. And so then I love

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<v Speaker 3>it as you as you move in then of course,

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<v Speaker 3>a cost to it, and so he says, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're pressed on every side by troubles, but we're not crushed.

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<v Speaker 3>And you read that those whole next couple of verses.

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<v Speaker 3>He's talking about the struggles, but we're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>the world is changing very quickly, and where Christianity used

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<v Speaker 3>to be kind of very much mainstream and totally accepted,

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<v Speaker 3>now you know, there's this warfare, quite honest, spiritual warfare

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<v Speaker 3>that's going on between light and darkness in our nation,

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<v Speaker 3>Paul can say who eventually winds up losing his head

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<v Speaker 3>for the gospel literally gets a head cut off. If

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<v Speaker 3>Paul can say we're pressed on every side by troubles,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're not crushed. We're perplexed, but not driven to despair,

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<v Speaker 3>then you should be encouraged and say you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to either. Maybe there's something bigger and maybe God has

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<v Speaker 3>right and all those kinds of things. But the hope

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<v Speaker 3>And so Paul wasn't getting sucked into those things, saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Because he said, you know, these.

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<v Speaker 3>People are captivated by the God of this world, right,

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen says this is why we never give up. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I love those sentiments, but it says, though our bodies

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<v Speaker 1>our present troubles are small, won't last very long. And

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually just went to a home. Somebody had

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<v Speaker 1>you want to come or you know, actually we want

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<v Speaker 1>And so I walked in and I just said, so,

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<v Speaker 1>And then they just talked to me. And sometimes they'll

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen that so many times where it's like part

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<v Speaker 3>Most of us go yeah. And it's the uncertainty of it, right, No, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>But there's this grace that God gives to those who

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<v Speaker 3>have been growing up in faith in Christ. There's this

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<v Speaker 3>live above the pain that we face in this life, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and so he says, so we then, so we don't

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<v Speaker 3>look at the troubles we can see now, rather we

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<v Speaker 3>fix our gaze on things that cannot be seen. That's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the ways we know he's a Southerner because

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<v Speaker 3>he's fixing his eyes on something right, but both Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's fixing to do something.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another word of your standing jokes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, say it all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well he says it two or three different times right

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<v Speaker 3>right where he's fixing to do this or fixing that,

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<v Speaker 3>fixes gaze on christ and so he says, for the

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<v Speaker 3>things we see now will soon be gone, but the

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<v Speaker 3>things we cannot see will last forever. You know, we

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<v Speaker 3>just came through the Christmas season and piles of presents

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<v Speaker 3>and all those exciting things, and eventually everything that got

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<v Speaker 3>passed out and unwrapped will be in the dump right right,

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<v Speaker 3>And but we lived for those things.

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<v Speaker 2>Matter of fact.

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<v Speaker 3>Now everybody's trying to figure how to pay for those

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<v Speaker 3>things right right, right, And you might feel like you're

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<v Speaker 3>paying for these things for eternity. But what he's trying

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<v Speaker 3>to do is he's trying to differentiate. You have so

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<v Speaker 3>much more peace when you put your eyes on what

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<v Speaker 3>is eternal and the fact that you're going to live

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<v Speaker 3>far longer on the other side of this life than

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<v Speaker 3>you will hear on this planet. And so instead of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, getting caught up and all the stresses and

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<v Speaker 3>difficulties of this life, instead investing those things are going

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<v Speaker 3>to last forever, and when you do, you have a

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<v Speaker 3>totally different perspective, and it eliminates or alleviates a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of those fears and stresses. Yeah, so living with an

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<v Speaker 3>eternal perspective is what he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, by the way, this is totally off topic. Just

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seconds. Is you know, maxing out credit cards and

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out how to pay for things?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it interesting how it's so much easier just to swipe?

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<v Speaker 1>Remember before it was like we used to say to ourselves, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so easy to put something on credit card and

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<v Speaker 1>not pay for it now, but you still had to

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<v Speaker 1>get up and go to the store and pick it

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<v Speaker 1>out and go through the trouble. So the reality sort

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<v Speaker 1>of set in, like I'm doing this right. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you're sitting on the couch and you just go, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>look at that, and with one swipe, you're just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just spent a thousand dollars, right, And it's like

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<v Speaker 1>and if it's and hopefully it's just tied to your

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<v Speaker 1>bank account, right, it's not tied to your credit card,

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<v Speaker 1>But if it's side of your credit card, you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I could just stack anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to remind you, Chris, the things we

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<v Speaker 3>see now will soon be gone. Yes, yes, but the

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<v Speaker 3>things we cannot see will last forever.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah that's right. I got a new Apple TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah. So it's the new four K one and

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<v Speaker 4>I just it was.

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<v Speaker 1>All like one hundred and like sixty bucks whatever, but

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<v Speaker 1>but I just remember swiping it.

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<v Speaker 4>I just swiped it and I was like, it'll be

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<v Speaker 4>here on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>What.

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<v Speaker 4>It's amazing, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So so yeah, so tomorrow we're picking up and and

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<v Speaker 1>Paul is going to be talking about having brand new

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<v Speaker 1>bodies and he goes back to this idea of of

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<v Speaker 1>the tent, uh you know, earthly tents versus tabernacles, which

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<v Speaker 1>again again it's just Paul is a master at visual aids.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's what we're talking about tomorrow on the Bible guys,