Tesla to Mars - The Podcast

Kees is back from the U.S. and has just completed a full-blown FSD marathon. In this episode, he breaks down his 7-week road trip across America using Tesla’s Full Self-Driving software — from Cybertruck to Model Y, from Michigan to San Francisco. How good is FSD *really* in the wild? And why is V13 such a leap over V12?

We also dive into Tesla’s Master Plan Part 4, the future of robotrucking as a billion-dollar industry, and the AI talent war — where Elon recruits top engineers without even offering bonuses. The big question: is 2025 already shaping up to be as epic as predicted?

In episode 48 we cover:

🧠 Real-world FSD
Kees drives 30,000 km hands-off
FSD V12 vs V13 — what’s changed?
Why FSD sometimes drives better than you

🚛 Robotrucking & Hyperscaling
The business case for autonomous trucking
Why Tesla Semis could cut costs by 10x
Giga Texas, convoys & infrastructure megaplans

⚡ Master Plan Part 4
The roadmap to sustainable abundance
AI hardware, energy, and factory evolution
Why Tesla isn’t a car company anymore

👨‍💼 Elon as Recruiter-in-Chief
How he attracts elite AI engineers — without bonuses
What is MacroHard, and how will it replace Microsoft?

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Chapters

00:00 – Kees is back from 7 weeks in the U.S.
01:00 – Why Kenny left the podcast
02:20 – Cybertruck meetups & FSD events
05:45 – First hands-on with FSD V13 in Cybertruck
09:00 – Driving FSD feels like piloting a video game
12:00 – FSD V12 vs V13: What’s the real difference?
16:30 – Ryzen vs Intel hardware performance in Teslas
19:00 – FSD is now better than human drivers (sometimes)
21:45 – Map bugs, speed limit weirdness & unsafe edge cases
25:30 – Tesla’s robotrucking vision & convoys
28:50 – Slipstreaming, energy savings & pricing potential
33:00 – Why Tesla only builds if it’s 10x better
36:00 – Master Plan Part 4: Full breakdown
40:00 – AI, energy, batteries & production at scale
44:00 – CyberCab design sneak peeks & Easter eggs
47:30 – Is 2025 already living up to the hype?
52:00 – Elon’s unique approach to recruiting
55:30 – The AI war: $150M offers vs mission-driven hires
58:00 – MacroHard vs Microsoft
1:01:00 – Tesla’s rise as a utilitarian mega-company
1:05:00 – Media narratives & FSD perception battle
1:09:00 – Demographics, robotics & birth rate collapse
1:14:00 – Elon = Arne Slot? The football analogy
1:18:00 – Musk, momentum & the power of agency

Creators and Guests

DB
Host
Demian Beenakker
Co-Host Tesla to Mars
FM
Host
Florian Minderop
Co-Host Tesla to Mars
KR
Host
Kees Roelandschap
Co-Host Tesla to Mars

What is Tesla to Mars - The Podcast?

Welcome to Tesla to Mars – The Ultimate Podcast on everything Tesla & Musk! 🚀

We offer you a unique European perspective on all things Musk – from Tesla, SpaceX, xAI, The Boring Company, and beyond.

🔹 Florian – Founder & CEO of MisterGreen, a pioneer in sustainable mobility, managing a fleet of 5,000 Teslas.
🔹 Kees – Chief Content Officer & Business Development at MisterGreen, expert in Full Self-Driving & European regulations.
🔹 Kenny – Founder & Managing Director of MAKE & Partners. Finance, M&A, and investment specialist. Tesla investor since 2019.
🔹 Demian – Founder of Next Level Human. Entrepreneur with a passion for Elon’s vision and future tech.

From Robotaxis and Optimus to Tesla Energy and stock insights – we break it all down.