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Steve: Derek Johnson is one of
those craftsmen in our industry

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who is always there to help others.

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He helped us put together our training
program for Costco university.

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He's always professional.

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And he always has something to teach  us.

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Today, Dirk and I are talking
about cleaning products.

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Now that might sound boring,

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but trust me, you'll wish for boring.

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When you have to explain to a homeowner
why their surfaces are damaged

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because he used the wrong product.

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Steve: I'm Steve Schwab.

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And this is Casa caste.

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It's the KasaCast, created by KasaGo.

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It's time for the show, let's go!

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Steve: Hey, Dirk.

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Hey, Steve.

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Great to

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see you.

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You too.

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Thanks for jumping on tonight.

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Yeah, you're welcome.

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It's great to be here.

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I'm excited to converse with you
and all the Costco brain trust.

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We had such a great orange call last
week talking about the Petri dishes  and

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the grossness that grew out of them.

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You said  that microfiber
scratches plasma screens.

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And I had no idea.

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Which leads to this conversation
about what cleaning products go

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where so that one, we're doing
a good job of cleaning  in two.

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So we're not damaging  the services

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? 
Yeah, that,  a, that's a great question
because there are some products

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that will damage some surfaces.

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You have to be real careful in
some cases , with the granite

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countertops, if they're not sealed,
because some products will hurt them.

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You have to be careful with, in some
cases, the stone that's being cleaned.

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Because that'll hurt it.

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I remember when I was, when the Bellagio
opened, there was a cleaning article

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about the tile in the Bellagio and they
had two different tiles next to it.

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And each tile had to be cleaned by
hand because how you cleaned one tile,

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if you clean the tile next to it with
the product you used on the tile, just

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adjacent to it, it would scratch it.

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And I'm like, who designed that?

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Because that's just going to be a mess.

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For our list today, we have 10 products,
six of which are general products, and

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then the rest are specialty products.

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So, for number one, you listed
the all purpose cleaner.

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Yeah, so the all purpose cleaner
is a general cleaner, so you

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can use that, uh, on your dining
room tables, on your chairs.

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Uh, your nightstands, your headboards,
uh, assuming there are hard surfaces.

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When I think of a microfiber rag
and spraying a product on that, I'm

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thinking of a hard, solid surface.

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So, wood, metal, from my
granite, laminates, hardwood

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floors, things of that nature.

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When I start to think of soft goods,
so pillows, couches, drapery, some

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headboards, those have to be cleaned
in a slightly different way where

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you can certainly spray the rag, but
then work the fabric, but I'm more

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interested in in the hard surfaces.

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I can spray the rag or I can spray
the surface and then move along

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as I go through and clean that.

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I do think that.

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We need to make sure that we
understand that there is a dwell time.

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All the products have a
cleaning time to kill microbes.

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The microbes we talked
about in the Petri dishes.

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And so that dwell time is real
important because sometimes the dwell

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time for some products could be 30
seconds, depending on the virus or

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the microbe that it's killing, or
it could be upwards of 30 minutes.

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And so this is why it's real important
that you work with, you work with

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Costco, you work with your local
janitorial supply company to make

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sure that, you know, what products.

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That you're using because if it
takes 30 minutes to kill an E.

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coli or a Salmonella, I don't have
30 minutes to let that product

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sit there and dwell to kill it.

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So, I want to make sure that I'm
somewhere in the 30 to 90 seconds range.

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I've got my handy dandy spray bottle.

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I spray as much surface as I
can as I'm following the wall.

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And then once I've got my time there,
then I can come back with my rag and then

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I can wipe it up and, and keep going.

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So again, the all purpose cleaner, you're
thinking of your, your hard surfaces.

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It could be used on some fabric
surfaces, but again, you want

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to test it in a smaller area.

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And and some all purpose cleaners
can be used on the floor.

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Uh, if you do, you want to make sure
the pH has a neutral pH of 7 because

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if I put too much product on the floor,
and when I come by, and I don't get all

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of the cleaning agent off the floor,
there will still be soap residue.

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And so the soap residue is going
to grab and hold on to the dirt.

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And as it's holding onto the dirt is still
sitting on the floor saying, pick me up.

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I've done my job.

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I grabbed the dirt.

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So somebody walks by with white socks.

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Or a baby crawls on the floor
and they get black knees or

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their white socks turn black.

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Well, that's because they're
picking up all that soap residue.

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And so I affectionately call
that the black foot syndrome.

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There's too much cleaning agent on
the floor and it's the wrong pH.

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And so that's why it's real important
in the deep clean that we come through.

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And we, I use the word strip, but
we're really not stripping the floor.

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You know, we get all of that
built up cleaning products.

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Or the dish soap that's been used to
clean up the jelly that dripped on the

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floor that the guests needed to clean
up, you know, that way each season we

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come into our high season with a clean,
fresh floor, so it'll allow that product

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to build up over time and then we just
come through and we take it off again.

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So where do you not use
the all purpose cleaners?

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So I would not use the
all purpose cleaner.

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I wouldn't use it anywhere where
I have grease because I need

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a degreaser to take it off.

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So that could be in the kitchen.

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For That the grill potentially, I
wouldn't use it on the windows because

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I have a window product for that.

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I would not use it in the bathroom
because I have a specific bathroom

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cleaner for that because I have to break
down specific soap and I would not use

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it inside the oven or I could use it
on stainless steel, but I have to be

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careful because it could leave a streak.

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It's not going to break
down hot water deposits.

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You have something else for that.

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So is there any services that would damage
is right where in our home we're looking

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at going if I put an all purpose cleaner
on this hard surface, I could damage

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this either stone or wood or finish.

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Is there somewhere we need to be careful?

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Yeah, there is a possibility of that.

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And that's why it's real important
to connect with the people

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you're buying the product from.

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To get a list of, of what they
recommend the surfaces, and then

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you always test a new product in an
inconspicuous spot to make sure that

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it doesn't damage it or hurt it.

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Most products nowadays in the
general cleaning line are really

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good about not damaging a product.

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However, there's always that 1
case that everybody talks about.

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That's 20 years old.

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And so we make sure that we always
test it and make sure that, that

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it's, it's accurate where it needs
to be as we go through and clean.

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Are there a few examples of the
general purpose cleaners that you like?

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Yeah, there's two that
I'll mention again, right?

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Your local janitorial supply
company is going to be your

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best opportunity for that.

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I know Costco has a central purchasing
point that has some great discounts.

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Sean Kemper's Drop and Go
certainly falls in that category.

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I also like the Procter Gamble Spick
and Span as an all purpose cleaner.

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Now that can be used, that one
also can be used on the windows.

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So it's really a dual purpose cleaner.

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You do have to be careful because you
want to make sure that you purchase the

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commercial Procter Gamble Spick and Span.

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And you want to make sure that the
windows and the glasses you're working

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with, that the formula is correct
based on your hard water that you have.

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Otherwise, it will cause streaks
and it will create far more work

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than it is to, to remove that.

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So there's really a science to the
chemical side of this, particularly

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because we're advocating that
you use a, uh, a commercial, a, a

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concentrate, so you have to dilute it.

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So that means if your water has a
lot of iron or a lot of minerals,

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that's going to mess up the chemistry.

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And so you have to make sure that your
dilution ratio matches and can overcome

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whatever minerals are in the water.

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If you go to your local commercial
janitorial cleaners, will they know what

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the harshness of your water is so they
can sell you the proper chemicals or do

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you have to go out and test that yourself?

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Yeah, you'll have to test that yourself.

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So, I mean, there's lots of home
test kits that you can send it in.

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I think most counties do a hard
water test or something of that

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nature and knowing what your test is.

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And again, it may change in the season.

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When I was in Park City, Utah, in the
spring when all the runoff would happen.

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And the runoff would run through all
the mines down into the, the water

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system of the city, the, the water,
the hardness of the water would change.

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And so I would have to
adjust my laundry chemicals.

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I'd have to adjust the orifices
from my cleaning concentrates.

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And then once the runoff was done, I could
go back to what my programming was before,

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because now the water chemist, the actual,
the chemistry in the water had changed.

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So now it didn't mess up my chemistry
that I was trying to use to clean with.

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So, again, you just have to pay attention.

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It's, and, and this is why
it's so important to have.

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Your local, uh, janitorial supply company
is really your best friend in this.

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You, you certainly can purchase
things from mail order.

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And again, I know there's an
agreement between Costco and

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Sean, and he does excellent work.

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At the same time, there has to
be this arm and arm relationship.

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For learning purposes, let's check,
test your water hardness once a quarter,

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just so we know what's going on.

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If you really live in a, in an area
where There's lots of snow and then

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high runoff or, or you live in an area
where it's a desert for six months and

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then you get monsoon for six months.

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That may or may not affect your water.

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I don't know.

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However, it's really good just to
have that nugget of information

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to, to make sure that the hardest
of the water does not affect.

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Versely a fact to the cleaning product
that you're putting in the water.

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I never knew that.

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So totally learned something
brand new talking to you on this.

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I had no idea.

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Number two, the greaser.

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You think of, you think of all the
kitchen splatter that happens from

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bacon grease and sausage grease and
the steaks and the splatter of the

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butter, your all purpose cleaner isn't
going to break that down because that's

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not designed to be a, now it could.

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But most may not be and so you want
a good degreaser that could break

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that down and so it doesn't smudge
and smear and a good dish soap

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certainly breaks down that grease.

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The challenge with dish soap is
that you then have to wipe it off.

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Which isn't all bad, depending
on what the grease is.

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So, yeah, you need that to break down
that grease and to tease it, and that's

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mostly used in the kitchen or around the
grill area, things of areas such as that.

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What is it about a degreaser that
allows it to break down grease,

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as opposed to other chemicals?

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Is there something specific
in the makeup of it, or is it?

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Yeah, yeah, there's something, and
I, and that's a chemistry question,

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and I don't have that strict answer.

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I will have to find out there.

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There is the way it's formulated is
that it can attack the fat that's in

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the grease and be able to break it down.

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So then you can just wipe it up and
and move on, which is really why the

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dwell time is so important because
you've got to spray the product on

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there so that the agents in that, that
cleaning agent can break down the fat.

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It can also now kill kill the microbes
that are there as well because you think

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about if you're cooking hamburgers.

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Well, that's where E.

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coli is going to come from, from
the, from the uncooked beef juice

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sitting there on the counter.

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And so we need to make sure that the E.

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coli is killed.

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And then you think of the egg that was
cracked and the spilled on the countertop.

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Well, that's where salmonella
is going to come from.

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So we got to make sure that the,
the proteins and that can be broken

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down in such a way as well as.

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Being able to being able
to kill the salmonella that

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could be present in the egg.

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Yeah.

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Have you seen any common
mistakes with decreasers?

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Maybe you put it on a certain surface
and it damages it or anything we should

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be wary of when it comes to decreaser.

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So you have super caustic degreasers and
they could certainly take some paint off.

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However, if, if we're in that category of
degreaser, we're probably wearing chemical

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resistant impervious gloves, we're
wearing a face shield for what section

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eight of the safety data sheet says.

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So, again, as you start to look at the
products you're using, you want to make

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sure that you can use regular gloves.

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and regular glasses as opposed
to having the real thick safety

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goggles, face shields, and chemical
resistant to perfeus gloves.

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Is that like, I've been cleaners like
easy off where you have to spray it?

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That is correct.

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Easy off is my favorite one to
pick on because It is caustic,

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and it's an aerosol, so it's
got two strikes against it.

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If you look at the safety data sheet
for the heavy duty easy off, oven

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easy off, it says chemical resistant
impervious gloves, and then it says

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splash goggles and or face shield.

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And so it's the and that really gets
me, that I have to wear splash goggles

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and a face shield over the top of that.

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while I'm doing that work.

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And so it really is super
dangerous from my perspective.

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I think that you and I should
do a video where we get into

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the Breaking Bad outfits.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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I love it.

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Let's do it.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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The only question, who's
going to be Walter White?

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Who's going to be Jesse?

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That's the question.

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Well, we'll have to play rock,
paper, scissors on that one.

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I said, okay.

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So for number three, you
put bathroom cleaner.

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Yes.

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So the bathroom cleaner is designed
in such a way that it can break

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down the body oils and soap scums.

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And so your all purpose
cleaner won't do that.

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So again, you think of your, the, the
shower ledges, which Where you put your

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soap, you think of the child comes in
from playing in the sand or playing in

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the mud or whatever the case may be,
because that's what children need to do.

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They need to be out getting dirty is
an opinion statement, I know, but then

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they come back in and there's a ring.

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And having that specific bathroom
disinfectant, that bathroom cleaner,

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will allow not only to kill the germs
that are there, but it breaks down all

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those oils, all those soap scum, so
all you have to do is spray it, let

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it dwell, and then wipe, and move on.

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Is there anywhere that you've
seen damaged surfaces, or where

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you should not be putting it?

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No, I haven't, because again,
obviously I'm speaking in generalities.

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Something to consider, you know,
the janitorial supply company,

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they may come back and say, I've
got this really super cool stuff.

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And then you look at the pictograms and
they've got skull and crossbones and, you

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know, that it's dead when you breathe it,
you're like, no, I don't need to do that.

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I'm not working with that.

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Not in that type of environment.

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So, so, yeah, you want to, and the
other thing we want to consider is I

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kind of hop around here a little bit
is you want to make sure that all the

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products you use are inert to each other.

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You think of.

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Ammonia and bleach, because some window
cleaners, again, carefully naming

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names here, you have a window cleaner
that has ammonia in it because that

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evaporates and doesn't create streaks.

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And then you have some people
who really believe that I need

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to use bleach in the bathroom.

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Well, once bleach and ammonia come
together, they create this gas, this green

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gas called chlorine gas or mustard gas.

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It will kill you.

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And, and so we want to make sure
that the products that we use do

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not create a chemical reaction
that will cause harm or damage.

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I mean, cause our, most of our
bathrooms are in very enclosed spaces.

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And so we want to make sure that
we take care of them in such a way

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and that we use those products in
such a way that the professional

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cleaners are protected and safe.

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So for number four, you
had polishing cleaner.

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So tell me about polishing
cleaner, where do you use it?

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It allows me to not have to
use the aerosol oven cleaner.

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It allows me to work on on
the on the glass top stove.

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Sometimes you'll have when
pasta boils over, you'll have

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that ring around the outside.

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It'll work on that.

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It'll work on stainless steel.

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It'll work on glass shower doors to get
rid of soap scum and hard water buildup.

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You can use it on kitchen
faucets, sink faucets.

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You can use it on most solid surfaces.

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I would not include wood in that.

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Or painted material, because it would
take the paint off, but, but any of

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those other, we'll call metal, or super
durable surfaces, for lack of a better

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way to try and describe it, is what I
would say it could be used with and for.

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Is it safe for stainless steel?

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Now the thing with this is you want
to use a white scrubby as opposed to a

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green or blue because the colors mean
something in the janitorial world.

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If this were a video, I would, I
could pull out my long chain of

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different colors of scrubbies.

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And white is the least abrasive and
then it goes all the way down the

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colors to black where the black is the
most, most aggressive and abrasive.

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And so again, you want for, for
cleaners, for guests, you want

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to use white because that's the
signal that's the least abrasive.

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And then I can use that
with my polishing cleanser.

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I can use that on all my services and
not have to worry about scratching

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the pots and pans I'm using it
on or scratching the, the faucet

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fixtures or anything of that nature.

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I have no idea.

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That the scrubby color actually
had a significance to it.

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I thought it was just randomly like, Oh,
I'll take the green one or the white one.

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I don't really care, but it matters.

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It matters.

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You know, we have these tools and a
cleaning product is a tool of that.

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And so, you know, you have your cleaning
agents and then you have your hand tools

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and they all have to work together.

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Uh, in conjunction with the training
that is received to the mind and the

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hands of the cleaning professional.

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And so you have this triangle of how
I do my work and the cleaning agents

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break down the body oils and soap
scums, and they clean the different

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microbes that are sitting in the
surface that need to be addressed.

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I think we'll do another podcast
on the cleaning triangle.

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Dirk, can you give me a couple of examples
of what the polishing cleansers would be?

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Is there brand names or examples?

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It's really, uh, a jeweler's
polishing cleanser, really?

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And so, so, yeah.

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So if you're able to, to get that
now, that now it's almost like a soft

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scrub, if you will, but it's different.

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I've never used soft scrub in the oven.

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I guess I could try it and see, but again,
it's a polishing cleanser to a degree.

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Oh, Kemp's a chemist.

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Yeah, he's a, yeah.

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He takes raw materials that comes
together and creates the formulas

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and the products that, that he sells.

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Sean Kemper does that.

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Himself for industries.

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I had no idea.

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I thought he was just reselling
somebody else's stuff.

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No, he's a blender.

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He blends it.

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And that, and to me, that's why some
of his products are so good is because

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he's looked at our specific needs of
the vacation run industry and said, I

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can create something to address that.

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Did not know that.

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I had no idea.

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That's very interesting.

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So number six, the last product
that we're going to talk

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about in the general category.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, so the other item is depending
on what all purpose cleaner you

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use, You may need a floor product.

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And so if we look at our list of products,
we have one is an all purpose cleaner

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and I'm doing these in a slightly
different order of what you've listed.

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We have a small purpose cleaner.

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We have a window cleaner.

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We have a degreaser.

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We have a bathroom cleaner.

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And then we have a polishing cleanser.

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Which is good for all the hard water
and the inside the ovens and so forth.

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And then you may need a floor cleaner,
which has a neutral pH, and that

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you're able to get off the floor so it
doesn't create the Blackfoot syndrome.

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Those are the standard products that
every cleaning professional should have in

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their cleaning kit as they go out to work.

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There's several specialty Products
that we're going to talk about now.

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And why are these specialty products?

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Like, yeah, so I, I call them specialty
products because they're not products

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that the everyday housekeeper could use.

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Now, could you absolutely, could
you give them to them with training?

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Absolutely.

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You could.

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However, I look at them and say, you know,
what the cleaning professional has their,

00:21:10.356 --> 00:21:12.096
their list of products that they use.

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And if they have to go beyond that, then
either a supervisor should do it or.

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Somebody needs to know that they're
using these products because it

00:21:21.626 --> 00:21:25.546
means that there is something else
that need may need to be addressed.

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And so the first one of that
would be an enzyme product.

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Now this is probably the first one
that I would give to my cleaners if I

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need it to, because the enzyme product
is great for all sorts of things.

00:21:39.106 --> 00:21:42.806
It's great for fish smell and
the fish juice in the fridge that

00:21:42.806 --> 00:21:44.476
has ran down inside the cracks.

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It is great for finding where pets,
dogs have peed on the corner or in

00:21:50.226 --> 00:21:54.006
the corner of the room with your black
light, which would be another tool

00:21:54.256 --> 00:21:58.006
to spray the enzyme product on there
to eat that or if someone, little

00:21:58.016 --> 00:22:01.836
Johnny has an accident in the middle
of the night and we need to address

00:22:01.836 --> 00:22:05.466
the mattress, we can certainly pour
the Kenzyme on that, flip the mattress

00:22:05.466 --> 00:22:07.746
over, make the bed and keep going.

00:22:07.746 --> 00:22:10.096
We don't have to do anything
different with that.

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The enzyme product is also
good for garbage disposals.

00:22:13.766 --> 00:22:20.056
And it is also really good for the
stinky stenchy outside garbage cans

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to get rid of the, the stench and the
weakness that is coming out of that

00:22:23.926 --> 00:22:30.156
because of all of the, um, bio stuff
that is fermenting inside the garbage

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can you just spray it and leave it.

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Yeah, don't just spray it and leave it.

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My understanding of enzymes are they
actually go dormant when they're dry

00:22:38.471 --> 00:22:43.001
and any time there's moisture or they
get wet is when they wake up and then

00:22:43.191 --> 00:22:48.681
they eat the biochemicals around them
and what we smell is actually they're

00:22:48.751 --> 00:22:51.021
what they're releasing from that.

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Spartan, another chemical manufacturer,
uh, they make a product and

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this is a name that I just love.

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And it's called consume, and they've
actually made this product so that

00:23:05.336 --> 00:23:08.646
you could, that you can pour it
down grease strains, grease traps,

00:23:08.676 --> 00:23:12.186
and they've even made it so that if
you pour it down the drain that the

00:23:12.226 --> 00:23:15.956
enzyme will sense that, hey, there's
something that's going to kill me and

00:23:15.956 --> 00:23:17.426
it will morph into something else.

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And after that's gone, it morphs back
into the enzyme so it can continue to eat.

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It's amazing stuff that they've done.

00:23:23.696 --> 00:23:25.006
Truly amazing stuff.

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So from a pet friendly property
standpoint, having an enzyme in

00:23:29.476 --> 00:23:31.456
a cleaner's arsenal is great.

00:23:31.806 --> 00:23:34.686
The other thing that you can do
with an enzyme product, assuming it

00:23:34.696 --> 00:23:39.246
has a pH of seven, you can use that
on the floors as a floor cleaner.

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Because then it breaks down all that
biohazard stuff and you can use enzyme.

00:23:43.896 --> 00:23:47.366
You can use an enzyme cleaner on your
carpet because it will continue to eat

00:23:47.366 --> 00:23:49.416
the organics in that and get rid of those.

00:23:49.726 --> 00:23:52.216
I mean, there's all sorts
of uses for this product.

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I had no idea.

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So number eight, you had
mold and mildew cleaner.

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Yeah.

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So mold and mildew cleaner.

00:24:01.706 --> 00:24:04.646
So mold and mildew are spores.

00:24:05.251 --> 00:24:10.791
And there are lots of people who think
that bleach will kill mold and mildew

00:24:11.201 --> 00:24:15.931
while I agree that mold and mildew
that bleach will take away the color.

00:24:16.346 --> 00:24:20.636
Of mold and mildew, and I agree that
if a guest called and said, there's

00:24:20.636 --> 00:24:24.286
mold and mildew in my shower, I
want you to come and address it.

00:24:24.316 --> 00:24:27.836
I would show up with a spray
bottle of bleach because this

00:24:27.836 --> 00:24:29.176
is a showmanship piece, right?

00:24:29.176 --> 00:24:32.436
I want to show that I've immediately
taken care of it and that the guest

00:24:32.436 --> 00:24:34.246
can be satisfied and I can move on.

00:24:35.371 --> 00:24:39.541
At the same time, as soon as I leave
that property, I'm going to make a work

00:24:39.541 --> 00:24:42.801
order to come back in after they're
done to come back in with a molded

00:24:42.801 --> 00:24:48.721
mildew cleaner so that I can actually
kill the spores and kill the roots.

00:24:49.396 --> 00:24:53.066
of the mold and mildew so I can
address it and take care of it.

00:24:54.146 --> 00:24:57.786
What is the mold and mildew cleaner
doing that the bleach is not doing?

00:24:57.856 --> 00:25:00.276
Because I always thought that
bleach kills pretty much anything.

00:25:00.636 --> 00:25:02.206
Well it does if it's a bacteria.

00:25:02.256 --> 00:25:03.406
99.

00:25:03.406 --> 00:25:05.736
999 percent of viruses and bacteria.

00:25:06.336 --> 00:25:13.291
Mold and mildew are spores so they're two
very different Two very different things.

00:25:13.651 --> 00:25:17.051
So the mold and mildew cleaner
in my mind does two things.

00:25:17.061 --> 00:25:22.261
One, it kills the spores so it
can't continue to grow, but then

00:25:22.261 --> 00:25:27.191
it also pulls the roots out of the
caulking, out of the grout, out of

00:25:27.191 --> 00:25:29.181
the tile, out of all of those things.

00:25:29.541 --> 00:25:32.041
So that it can continue to not grow.

00:25:33.981 --> 00:25:34.651
That's fascinating.

00:25:34.681 --> 00:25:39.501
So just like when dad sent me
out to pull the weeds out of the

00:25:39.501 --> 00:25:44.241
lawn, if I was bleached, I just
pulled the tops off and left.

00:25:44.431 --> 00:25:47.711
But if I was the mold and mildew,
I'd have pulled it out by the roots.

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You are brilliant.

00:25:51.051 --> 00:25:53.671
I'm not really going to go to
the little candy bars for Mr.

00:25:53.671 --> 00:25:54.371
Schwab today.

00:25:54.831 --> 00:25:55.341
I love it.

00:25:55.341 --> 00:25:58.661
I expect to see those at
the Northwest vacation.

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Yes.

00:26:00.518 --> 00:26:02.376
Yes.

00:26:04.356 --> 00:26:04.646
That's it.

00:26:04.646 --> 00:26:06.066
An idea of what the difference is?

00:26:06.376 --> 00:26:06.846
That's it.

00:26:07.316 --> 00:26:07.976
Absolutely.

00:26:08.796 --> 00:26:09.146
Yeah.

00:26:09.236 --> 00:26:10.376
I love nerding out about this stuff.

00:26:11.336 --> 00:26:14.516
Um, so for number nine,
you had carpet cleaner.

00:26:15.256 --> 00:26:16.396
So you need a carpet cleaner.

00:26:16.821 --> 00:26:18.591
This is only for spot treating.

00:26:18.591 --> 00:26:21.031
I'm not talking about
cleaning the entire floor.

00:26:21.401 --> 00:26:24.461
I'm talking about someone
spilled a little bit of mustard.

00:26:24.461 --> 00:26:27.201
Someone spilled a little bit of jelly.

00:26:27.411 --> 00:26:29.451
Someone spilled something on the carpet.

00:26:29.631 --> 00:26:34.261
And so I'm going to use and
work with the, the product.

00:26:34.401 --> 00:26:35.761
I'm going to pour it on the carpet.

00:26:35.811 --> 00:26:36.781
I'm going to use my brush.

00:26:36.781 --> 00:26:37.681
I'm going to work.

00:26:37.711 --> 00:26:41.681
I'm going to go in, in circular motions,
working the stain back onto itself.

00:26:41.681 --> 00:26:42.981
So it gets smaller and smaller.

00:26:43.451 --> 00:26:45.421
Um, and so.

00:26:45.726 --> 00:26:49.076
Uh, again, I'm going to use
that carpet product to address

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those specific, uh, things.

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And Sean has a great product
to work with that as does a

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company called bridge point.

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They are a carpet cleaning entity.

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And so again, there's
lots of places to do that.

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Janitorial supply
companies would have that.

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So again, you have lots of
options there for you to do that.

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Now, again, just like
anything else, it's a tool.

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So you have to experiment with it.

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You have to tinker with it.

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You have to work with it.

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It's not just, Oh, I read the instructions
and I go to work while that will work

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for the enzyme and that will work for
the mold and mildew that may or may

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not work for the carpet because you
could be working with wool carpet.

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In some of your home.

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So that means you need to test
it in a very inconspicuous

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spot because wool will shrink.

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You may have some people have
some very expensive rugs that

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they've chosen to put on the floor.

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And so the dye might.

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So again, you've got to make
sure you're working with some.

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So you just got to know your product.

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And it's limitations and it's successes
and you have to know the carpet that

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you're working with or the textile
you're working with to make sure that

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you can address that so you don't
find yourself with a huge bill that

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then you have to work with because
you've damaged the carpet in that

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or the rug in that particular area.

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You pour a little bit, you work with
the brush, you pour a little bit more,

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you work with the brush, and if it
doesn't, and if it's not budging after

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the third time, you stop, and then
you've got to come back in with some

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stronger carpet cleaning agents to
be able to get that, that stain out.

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I would not use.

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Residential home carpet cleaning products.

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I, if again, we are professionals,
we want to use professional products.

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So, I would not go to Walmart.

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I would not go to, to, to
Home Depot and buy something.

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That's that is the, a
residential type product.

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I want a commercial product
that is used in a professional

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manner and by professionals.

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Good advice.

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Dirk, I had the experience once where
I spilled something on my mom's carpet.

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Uh oh.

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And I cleaned it.

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Yes.

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And when I cleaned it, it turned
the carpet a different color

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than the rest of the carpet and
I had to clean the whole carpet.

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Oh no!

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It was in the walkway.

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Oh.

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Is there any advice to making sure
that you don't overclean one spot?

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That that's truly a grand predicament,
because if I spill it in the middle of the

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hallway, that's a high traffic hallway and
I clean my spot, it's going to stand out.

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So, at that juncture in time, rather
than clean the spot, but you might

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as well just clean the whole hallway
and move on because it's and you do,

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you need to be attentive to that.

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I mean, you don't want
to leave the stain there.

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Because it will continue to get down
into the backing and down into the

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padding and then down into the subfloor,
which only exasperates the cleaning

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process when you use a steam cleaner.

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And I'm an advocate for a dry
carpet cleaning method as opposed

00:29:50.711 --> 00:29:54.081
to a steam cleaning method so I
can avoid the stain coming back up.

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And so I would be
attentive to where I'm at.

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How do I address the stain so it doesn't
damage the carpet and become permanent?

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At the same time, how do I avoid
the Steve Schwab scenario of?

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Now I've cleaned it.

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It all looks, doesn't look good now,
so I got to clean the whole thing.

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So sometimes it's better off just
to say, you know what, I'm going

00:30:15.431 --> 00:30:17.961
to clean the whole area, just do
it one and done and not have to

00:30:17.961 --> 00:30:19.151
worry about the spot treatment.

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Yeah, it was too right at the front
door where you turned down the hallway.

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So high traffic.

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Yeah.

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What a mess.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So number 10.

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Did your mom know you cleaned
the carpet afterwards?

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Yes, and I got in trouble.

00:30:36.576 --> 00:30:39.846
Yeah, my parents actually let me get
away with quite a lot as long as I was

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honest about the stupid things I did.

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Number 10.

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I'm surprised by this.

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Yes.

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And I've got lots of questions.

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Okay.

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Bed bug product.

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If I can shift our mind for a second.

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So most everything we do from a
bed bug standpoint, Is reactive.

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Oh, I've got bed bugs.

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I got to come in and take care of it.

00:31:02.401 --> 00:31:06.621
So the bed bug product is
all about being proactive.

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How do I address the issue
before I have the issue?

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How do I, if a guest is to bring them
into my property, how do I ensure that

00:31:15.741 --> 00:31:17.911
the bugs are not going to survive?

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To continue to be transported
and hitchhike on the next guest.

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So that's really what this is.

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Now, if you come across a
property that has them, could

00:31:26.696 --> 00:31:28.476
you certainly use the product?

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Absolutely, you could.

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At the same time, the specific product
I'm thinking of lasts for 30 days.

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So once a month, you're going to
go in and you're going to spray

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around the perimeter of the room.

00:31:40.906 --> 00:31:44.126
You're going to spray around,
around the nightstands.

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If you've got a wicker headboard and
a wicker footboard, Which is just the

00:31:48.246 --> 00:31:51.016
great greatest hiding space for bed bugs.

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I'm going to spray into that the product.

00:31:53.826 --> 00:31:54.696
I'm the specific product.

00:31:54.796 --> 00:31:56.376
I'm thinking of does have a sense.

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So you'll need to do it on a non turn day.

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So that the smell can or the fragrance
can dissipate and you want it to be dry.

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The product in this is
all natural product.

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At the same time, I would like to make
sure that it's dry before the guests

00:32:11.951 --> 00:32:13.381
arrive or the homeowners arrive.

00:32:13.951 --> 00:32:18.981
And so again, this is meant to be
a proactive piece as we do that.

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And that's why it's on my list.

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I didn't even know there was a Proactive
bed, but probably doubt on the market.

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I know you can go to Home Depot and
you can buy products that are there

00:32:28.991 --> 00:32:33.091
at the same time, you know, you
have to be aware that those products

00:32:33.121 --> 00:32:36.771
are diluted on purpose because they
don't want to have special licenses.

00:32:37.061 --> 00:32:38.571
They don't want to have
to do certain things.

00:32:38.801 --> 00:32:41.051
Rightly so, because you don't want.

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Some of those commercial products
really should not be in the hands of

00:32:44.871 --> 00:32:46.321
people who do not know how to use them.

00:32:47.551 --> 00:32:51.361
You think of muriatic acid that is
used to clean pools and hot tubs.

00:32:51.971 --> 00:32:54.971
Again, if it's done
incorrectly, you're dead.

00:32:55.081 --> 00:32:55.951
It's that simple.

00:32:56.391 --> 00:32:59.541
And so making sure you're trained
on how to do that is imperative.

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And that's the same thing
with some of these products.

00:33:02.361 --> 00:33:06.346
We just want to make sure that our
cleaners come home, And they're safe and

00:33:06.346 --> 00:33:07.676
they can spend time with their family.

00:33:07.926 --> 00:33:10.486
And we want to make sure that our guests
can enjoy the time that are there.

00:33:10.486 --> 00:33:12.686
And that's the purpose of
the cleaning products to be

00:33:12.686 --> 00:33:14.446
proactive on the bed bug side.

00:33:15.026 --> 00:33:18.936
That way you can then come along and
address it in a way that, that makes,

00:33:18.996 --> 00:33:22.996
makes the home safe from bed bugs.

00:33:22.996 --> 00:33:28.066
Now there will, you're never going to
stop them a hundred percent because of

00:33:28.066 --> 00:33:32.666
how they hitchhike and what they do, which
you can do though, is you can make it.

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So it's a very.

00:33:33.936 --> 00:33:37.626
You can tip the scales in our favor to
make it so that the environment that

00:33:37.626 --> 00:33:39.906
they live in is very dangerous for them.

00:33:40.306 --> 00:33:43.406
I was thinking, and I know we're running
long, but I'll, I'll finish with this,

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that we've had a bed bug situation in
one of our condo complexes in Princesa.

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And as I now understand this, with this
bed bug product, if I'd have known about

00:33:56.626 --> 00:33:59.871
this product at the time, I'd have gone
and sprayed all of our other products.

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Yes.

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Properties that are adjacent and
all the way around that building.

00:34:03.311 --> 00:34:03.801
All around it.

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Yep.

00:34:04.041 --> 00:34:05.651
As quickly as I could.

00:34:07.411 --> 00:34:07.921
Cause they run.

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Yeah.

00:34:08.781 --> 00:34:09.251
They run.

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They know what's happening and they move.

00:34:13.321 --> 00:34:13.701
Dirk.

00:34:13.701 --> 00:34:14.941
I appreciate your time so much.

00:34:14.941 --> 00:34:19.701
Thank you for coming on and teaching
all of our partners about this stuff.

00:34:20.281 --> 00:34:24.161
I learned a lot today and I really
appreciate you and all the things you do.

00:34:24.711 --> 00:34:25.221
You're welcome.

00:34:25.221 --> 00:34:25.611
Thank you.

00:34:25.621 --> 00:34:28.021
Thanks for having me on and
all the best to your partners.

00:34:28.031 --> 00:34:30.871
All the best as they do this
and anxious and happy to help

00:34:30.891 --> 00:34:31.871
whatever needs to be done.

00:34:33.061 --> 00:34:35.851
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00:34:36.156 --> 00:34:38.976
The Casa cast, they want to be us.

00:34:39.116 --> 00:34:45.816
The Casa cast, just don't call
it in their being BW Casa cast.

00:34:46.361 --> 00:34:52.901
We got Orange Credo, the Casa cast, our
company's nato, the Casa cast created by.