1 00:00:03,822 --> 00:00:10,520 Good evening, this is AF3Z, Alpha, Fox-Chart 3Z. 2 00:00:15,948 --> 00:00:25,272 Anyway, AF3 is dead here and you have tuned in to the 985 workbench. And we meet here 3 00:00:25,272 --> 00:00:29,038 every Monday evening. I've got to hold on a second here. 4 00:00:34,466 --> 00:00:42,859 Got my computer on Echo Link and it seems to be talking back to me and the delay is crazy. 5 00:00:42,859 --> 00:00:52,893 So anyway, set up audio. Oh, that's crazy. I had said. 6 00:00:56,142 --> 00:01:01,933 Okay, all right, now I don't hear myself. That's wonderful. Sorry about this. This is a workbench, 7 00:01:05,422 --> 00:01:14,102 We meet here every Monday evening at 8 p.m. and it's a time for talking about asking questions 8 00:01:14,102 --> 00:01:24,946 about radio operations, setting up the station, technical questions, antennas. I am located 9 00:01:24,946 --> 00:01:33,566 out near Mount Joy, Pennsylvania, a few miles away. And of course we meet here on the 146.985 10 00:01:33,566 --> 00:01:43,466 MHz repeater, W3GMS Parkburg repeater. The PL tone, if you want to get into it, is 100 Hz. 11 00:01:45,326 --> 00:01:51,755 And if you use tone squelch on receive, the repeater puts out a transmit. Our transmitter 12 00:01:51,755 --> 00:01:58,809 is a squelched stone of 94.8 hertz. you haven't checked in before, encourage you to try it 13 00:01:58,809 --> 00:02:05,022 tonight. Newcomers are very welcome. Also, take a look at the website for the repeater, 14 00:02:05,022 --> 00:02:19,188 www.w3gmsrepeater.com. Lots of information there, articles, pictures, repeater history, 15 00:02:19,188 --> 00:02:26,033 etiquette for operating on the repeater, all that kind of good stuff. Please be aware that 16 00:02:26,033 --> 00:02:33,004 at times we have intermod interference here on this repeater at this point. So if that 17 00:02:33,004 --> 00:02:38,656 comes up in somebody, we will mention that if it comes on tonight. And it might wipe me out, 18 00:02:38,656 --> 00:02:44,638 we'll see. But it can cause some real significant interference, especially for those of us farther 19 00:02:44,638 --> 00:02:50,079 away or on lower power. So if the intermountain interference comes in, it's good to go to 20 00:02:50,079 --> 00:02:55,811 high power if you haven't already. Or you can also check in digitally through EchoLink or 21 00:02:55,811 --> 00:03:00,839 All-Star, because that is not bothered by the interference. In any case, we do want to hear 22 00:03:00,839 --> 00:03:08,774 you so we hope you can work around that. One thing on EchoLink and All-Star... check the 23 00:03:08,774 --> 00:03:15,398 website. You have to get registered, so to speak, or on the list to use EchoLink and All-Store 24 00:03:15,398 --> 00:03:22,782 and Repeater. The information is on the website. You can check that to get that taken care 25 00:03:22,782 --> 00:03:22,902 of. 26 00:03:26,730 --> 00:03:31,354 Also, when the intermod is present, before you begin a transmission, it's good to do what 27 00:03:31,354 --> 00:03:37,759 I'm going to do now. Make sure you're getting in okay. I'm kind of thinking I am, but let 28 00:03:37,759 --> 00:03:46,965 me see. Ron, are you here? Am I making it in okay at the moment? Present WA3VE like you're 29 00:03:46,965 --> 00:03:55,151 here in the room, Jim. Perfect copy. Thank you, Ron. And that's a good thing to do. Like 30 00:03:55,151 --> 00:03:59,545 I say, when the intermod is present, sometimes it wipes some of us out, sometimes others. 31 00:03:59,545 --> 00:04:06,751 But it's good to just check like that. And I will be glad to tell you if you're getting 32 00:04:06,751 --> 00:04:12,136 in OK. The neck control station will always be glad to do that. And so you just check 33 00:04:12,136 --> 00:04:17,410 in quickly with that question, am I getting in OK? And once that's confirmed, then you 34 00:04:17,410 --> 00:04:23,317 can go ahead and start making your longer comments. Here on the workbench, as I said, we focus 35 00:04:23,317 --> 00:04:30,304 on kind of general questions of amateur radio theory operation. And also, though, we start 36 00:04:30,304 --> 00:04:36,669 off the workbench going around the circle, so to speak, around the table, just to give 37 00:04:36,669 --> 00:04:44,206 a brief summary of what's been up to in amateur radio this past week. And the question session 38 00:04:44,206 --> 00:04:48,499 that comes after that is really our main focus. But we'd like to hear a little bit briefly 39 00:04:48,499 --> 00:04:49,330 about what you've been up 40 00:04:53,038 --> 00:04:57,518 When you are checking in, which will start in just a couple minutes here, please indicate 41 00:04:57,518 --> 00:05:00,402 if you do have a question you would like to put to the work. 42 00:05:03,626 --> 00:05:07,359 And you don't have to go into the question at this point, but just simply say, yes, you have 43 00:05:07,359 --> 00:05:12,772 a question, or no, you don't. If you don't have a question, still check in. You don't 44 00:05:12,772 --> 00:05:18,706 have to have a question to check in. And the success of this is that there's a lot of us 45 00:05:18,706 --> 00:05:23,700 in here, and we can all come in on our experiences. You don't have to feel like you've got to 46 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:30,965 be a wise old ham radio operator. Don't think that what you have to say isn't important. 47 00:05:30,965 --> 00:05:38,288 All of us have access If and if you have something you want share, please jump in and do so. 48 00:05:38,288 --> 00:05:40,264 We can all contribute to the conversation. 49 00:05:43,694 --> 00:05:49,074 We are going through the check-ins. Please write down the call sign of the station that checks 50 00:05:49,074 --> 00:05:55,394 in right after you. You can keep a list of everybody if you want. Especially that station after 51 00:05:55,394 --> 00:06:01,234 you because when you have finished your comments, then you will turn the mic over to that station. 52 00:06:01,934 --> 00:06:06,814 And once we've all made our comments and comes back to me, then we'll start the question and 53 00:06:06,814 --> 00:06:12,454 answer portion of the workbench. And during that time, we operate as a directed net. So 54 00:06:12,454 --> 00:06:16,678 I will call on the... station who said they have a question, they'll share what their question 55 00:06:16,678 --> 00:06:23,903 is and then I'll open up to the group for responses to that question. And when you're 56 00:06:23,903 --> 00:06:30,338 done, any comments during that session, you please turn it back to me as the NIC control 57 00:06:30,338 --> 00:06:35,221 helps us to keep things running smoothly here. Sometimes it's good if you have just sort 58 00:06:35,221 --> 00:06:39,344 of a clarification question or you wouldn't need to go back and forth with somebody quickly. 59 00:06:39,344 --> 00:06:46,337 Please feel free to do that without turning it back to me. So once that interchange is 60 00:06:46,337 --> 00:06:50,404 finished up, then please turn it back to me and I will pass it along to whoever will be 61 00:06:50,404 --> 00:06:51,186 next. 62 00:06:54,958 --> 00:07:00,650 So a couple quick things here, don't be too quick to talk. Pause a couple seconds before 63 00:07:00,650 --> 00:07:05,246 you hit the press to talk switch. It's good repeater etiquette because it allows people 64 00:07:05,246 --> 00:07:13,331 a chance to get in and can especially be helpful to those on all-star and echo link here during 65 00:07:13,331 --> 00:07:19,466 a net like tonight. They need a little extra time, there are delays, they don't hear things 66 00:07:19,466 --> 00:07:22,258 as quickly as people on RF do and all that. 67 00:07:25,326 --> 00:07:30,789 When it's your turn, don't just jump right in, let a second or two or whatever before you 68 00:07:30,789 --> 00:07:37,713 press the talk switch. And once you do, wait another minute, or wait a minute, Wait a 69 00:07:37,713 --> 00:07:42,776 second before you start to talk so the repeater has time to process your PL tone if you're 70 00:07:42,776 --> 00:07:50,878 on RF. And we don't miss the beginning of what you have to say. And also there's a three minute 71 00:07:50,878 --> 00:07:57,218 timer on the repeater as required by the FCC. If you talk for more than three minutes, the 72 00:07:57,218 --> 00:08:02,778 repeater, without letting up on your press to talk switch, the repeater shuts down completely. 73 00:08:02,978 --> 00:08:08,038 Nobody can get in. It blocks everybody out. And also you're not getting in anymore. We 74 00:08:08,038 --> 00:08:12,978 all just sit here listening to silence until you let up on your press to talk switch. So 75 00:08:12,978 --> 00:08:16,358 every two to three minutes, like to do this, like I've done a number of times, just let 76 00:08:16,358 --> 00:08:21,240 up on the button. and then click again and keep going. You don't have to actually let 77 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,310 the repeater drop before you key again. 78 00:08:27,310 --> 00:08:33,450 want to say thank you to everybody who operates as a host here on the workbench. And if any 79 00:08:33,450 --> 00:08:37,850 of you who haven't done it would like to give it a try, please feel free to contact myself 80 00:08:37,850 --> 00:08:43,369 or one of the other hosts here on the workbench and we will get the information, help you make 81 00:08:43,369 --> 00:08:51,824 that decision if you're not sure and then get you started. And finally, just a reminder, 82 00:08:51,824 --> 00:08:58,139 we have another net that we call the roundtable. It's not quite a formal net as much as this 83 00:08:58,139 --> 00:09:04,433 one is. But on Thursday nights also at 8 p.m. and that's the 985 roundtable. So encourage 84 00:09:04,433 --> 00:09:08,406 you to come back on Thursday night and join that. That's more of a general reg two kind 85 00:09:08,406 --> 00:09:16,674 of roundtable session. We'll start to take check-ins now. Remember, if you have a question, 86 00:09:16,814 --> 00:09:21,214 or even if you don't, let me know by saying you have a question or you don't have any questions. 87 00:09:21,714 --> 00:09:27,934 And we'll start with the digital stations, giving them enough time in the middle so they can 88 00:09:27,934 --> 00:09:34,974 get checked in. So, any digital stations on EchoLink or All-Star wishing to check into 89 00:09:34,974 --> 00:09:41,594 the 985 workbench tonight, please call now. My call is Alpha Fox Chot 3.0. The name here 90 00:09:41,594 --> 00:09:43,209 is Jim. Please call now. 91 00:09:57,198 --> 00:10:01,601 Whiskey 8, Charlie Romeo Whiskey, CR. No question. 92 00:10:22,284 --> 00:10:27,634 Okay, very good. Thank you, CR, for checking in. There was somebody before CR that said 93 00:10:27,634 --> 00:10:33,044 you're a short timer tonight. Never heard any of your call. All I heard was, uh, that's short. 94 00:10:36,110 --> 00:10:40,750 Again, I don't know if you talked too soon or what, but give it another try and leave a pause 95 00:10:40,750 --> 00:10:44,178 before you start to talk. That other station, please call again. 96 00:10:49,036 --> 00:10:51,754 This is W1RC, good evening all. 97 00:10:59,342 --> 00:11:04,026 All right, very good. Mr. Mike, good to hear you. W1RC. You fool me these days because you 98 00:11:04,026 --> 00:11:09,952 sound so much more local. I didn't recognize who it was there. Thanks for checking in 99 00:11:09,952 --> 00:11:17,189 there. So I have W1RC and then W8CRW. Anybody else on EchoLink or All-Star who would like 100 00:11:17,189 --> 00:11:20,372 to check in to the workbench tonight, please call now. 101 00:11:38,292 --> 00:11:43,380 Alright, not hearing anybody. So we will move on anybody else other than Hickalink All-Star 102 00:11:43,380 --> 00:11:49,599 stations and now also any RF stations. Anybody wishing to check into the workbench, please 103 00:11:49,599 --> 00:11:59,890 call now. This is Jim AF. Alpha 3 Victor Echo Echo WA3 VEE. No question. 104 00:12:03,502 --> 00:12:03,858 you 105 00:12:13,664 --> 00:12:15,346 Let me jump in here and if I get it. 106 00:12:19,438 --> 00:12:25,286 was either a perfect double or something. I was really trying to a tone of voice or something 107 00:12:25,286 --> 00:12:30,474 in there, but it was very noisy and sort of garbled. So hopefully that was a double or 108 00:12:30,474 --> 00:12:36,242 something. But whoever was just trying to call in, please give it another try. 109 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:45,536 PC3RFG, Jim in Malvern, no questions. 110 00:12:48,782 --> 00:12:52,524 3MFB. Mike with the question. 111 00:13:03,534 --> 00:13:06,226 K3FHA John Nope 112 00:13:26,190 --> 00:13:37,567 C3TYX, Kilo Charlie 3, Tango Yankee X-ray. Kilo Charlie 3, Oscar Oscar Kilo. Charlie 113 00:13:37,567 --> 00:13:37,746 8. 114 00:14:02,382 --> 00:14:13,805 Here's who I have. Let me just go through the whole list here. W1RC, W8CRW, WA3VE, KC3RFG, 115 00:14:13,805 --> 00:14:23,828 W3MFB with a question, K3FHA. And this was the station that was in and out. I think you 116 00:14:23,828 --> 00:14:29,620 said you were parked on the air. November 3, Quebec, November Bravo or something like that. 117 00:14:29,620 --> 00:14:36,430 It was pretty noisy. and think you said you're in and out, if you want to come back, I don't 118 00:14:36,430 --> 00:14:40,470 if we'll be able to hear you little better, but I'd like to be sure I know who you are. 119 00:14:41,090 --> 00:14:46,870 So let me just pause a second. Both the men's, yeah, the station that mentioned being Parks 120 00:14:46,870 --> 00:14:49,570 on the Air, would you come back again, please? This is AF3. 121 00:15:04,246 --> 00:15:07,776 Okay, I'm sorry, my ears aren't pulling you out of the noise there. Let me just check, 122 00:15:07,776 --> 00:15:10,002 was anyone else able to copy that station? 123 00:15:14,158 --> 00:15:20,920 Quebec, November Charlie as the suffix but I still can't get the prefix. It's down in 124 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:25,118 the mud and I cannot hear him on the input. Go ahead. November 3. 125 00:15:28,270 --> 00:15:34,950 Thank you both there. Bill and Ron, November 3, Quebec November Charlie. I only missed one 126 00:15:34,950 --> 00:15:40,090 letter there. Thanks for checking in. Yeah, you are quite noisy. I'm glad you made it and 127 00:15:40,090 --> 00:15:47,177 I did hear the first time you said you were in and out. So thanks for that. tell you what, 128 00:15:47,177 --> 00:15:51,535 just give us one quick try here, see if you can tell us where you're located, where you're 129 00:15:51,535 --> 00:15:53,138 located. This is AF3Z. 130 00:16:12,270 --> 00:16:16,589 Thanks for trying, my ears didn't get it, but I'll pause for a second. Anybody else copy 131 00:16:16,589 --> 00:16:16,789 there? 132 00:16:23,662 --> 00:16:29,962 Thank you, maybe if conditions get better here. One point it started to sort of clear up but 133 00:16:29,962 --> 00:16:35,582 didn't hear anything even in that spot. So yeah, very, very noisy. But thanks for checking in 134 00:16:35,582 --> 00:16:41,082 and hope you have a good time there wherever you are. if you want to try again later, maybe 135 00:16:41,082 --> 00:16:49,202 we'll hear you better. So after John, K3FAJ was that N3QNC who was in and out. Then we 136 00:16:49,202 --> 00:17:01,300 have Vic, KC3TYX. Bill KC3 OK and Luke KC3 SCY. And Luke, are you alright to stay in 137 00:17:01,300 --> 00:17:06,915 that position as far as giving your comments today? So you'd be, maybe not last, but after 138 00:17:06,915 --> 00:17:17,149 Bill. I'm good till about 945 so TC3SC1 back to AO3Z. 139 00:17:21,165 --> 00:17:26,685 Very good, Luke, it must be getting to be summer. That's great. All right, thank you very much. 140 00:17:26,985 --> 00:17:33,885 So after all of that, any of other stations wishing to check into the 985 workbench, please 141 00:17:33,885 --> 00:17:38,165 call now. This is AF3Z. WA3KT. 142 00:17:49,166 --> 00:17:55,934 Charlie checked in, Jim. C-R-E. He was right in around Luke. 143 00:18:00,662 --> 00:18:06,511 Alright, thank you, Joe. Charlie, go ahead and say something again. Make sure I'm hearing 144 00:18:06,511 --> 00:18:12,232 you this. And three, CRE, Charlie here. 145 00:18:15,694 --> 00:18:22,148 Yeah, didn't hear you in there at all, so sorry about that. Welcome aboard. Anyone else wishing 146 00:18:22,148 --> 00:18:23,050 to check into the work? 147 00:18:27,032 --> 00:18:30,514 WA3KFKT 148 00:18:35,468 --> 00:18:39,692 did not acknowledge you, dealing with Joe's thing there, so very good. Yeah, we have Luke 149 00:18:39,692 --> 00:18:48,099 KC3SCY and John KFT and then Charlie N3CRE. One last call, AAF3Z here, any other check-ins 150 00:18:48,099 --> 00:18:48,840 for the workbench? 151 00:18:56,206 --> 00:18:58,128 23SQI 152 00:19:10,456 --> 00:19:12,754 AC3WWC. 153 00:19:26,968 --> 00:19:34,258 Very good. We got Wayne in there, KC3SQI and John KC3WWC. 154 00:19:37,678 --> 00:19:45,798 Joe checked in again by CW that time. Just the ID, sorry about that. All right. Quickly 155 00:19:45,918 --> 00:19:56,045 W1RC, W8CRW, WA3VEE, KC3RFG, W3NFB, you had a question, I think so far that's our only 156 00:19:56,045 --> 00:20:17,036 question, K3FHA, then next is KC3TYX, KC3OOK, KC3SKY, WA3KFT, N3CRE, KC3SQI. and KC3WWC. 157 00:20:17,036 --> 00:20:24,563 So, again, go around and brief comments on what you've been up to in amateur radio 158 00:20:24,563 --> 00:20:28,556 this week. Go ahead there, Mr. Mike, W1RC, it's up to you. 159 00:20:37,277 --> 00:20:47,518 Good evening to everybody on the workbench tonight from Marblehead, Massachusetts through All-Star. 160 00:20:47,598 --> 00:20:55,758 And that's actually what I did this week is I got my All-Star node operational. First level 161 00:20:55,758 --> 00:21:02,438 only and there's a lot more to go and a lot more to learn. I wanted to thank some of the 162 00:21:02,438 --> 00:21:12,057 folks here for offering to help me. do it and CR and Daniel, who's up here, offered to 163 00:21:12,057 --> 00:21:19,420 do it for me and I'm very grateful. I'm the kind of guy who to try to do it myself first 164 00:21:19,420 --> 00:21:26,996 and that way you learn and I was able to get it to work. only the very first level and 165 00:21:26,996 --> 00:21:32,722 there's still a bunch more questions that I need to figure out or get some help with but 166 00:21:32,722 --> 00:21:39,158 we'll get it working the full capacity. Also I figured out how to program this bell thing 167 00:21:39,158 --> 00:21:44,383 that I've had for a couple years that I bought at the MIT flea market. I'm going to reset 168 00:21:44,383 --> 00:21:44,914 this for a 169 00:21:51,304 --> 00:21:58,066 And that's about it. From here, I got to bail out. I got some work to do here tonight. I 170 00:21:58,066 --> 00:22:04,328 can't stick in as much as I'd like to. I'll listen, but I don't have any questions, but 171 00:22:04,328 --> 00:22:09,899 I might have some answers. So if I do and if I hear them, if I can, I will. Otherwise, 172 00:22:09,899 --> 00:22:16,221 we'll see you guys on Thursday. It's good to be part of this group. It's a very, very fine 173 00:22:16,701 --> 00:22:23,739 amateur radio community that... you all have created here on 985. It's very impressive, 174 00:22:23,739 --> 00:22:35,522 trust me. So back to, well over to CR. W8, CRW and the workbench. This is W1RC himself. 175 00:22:41,294 --> 00:22:49,059 Very good, Mr. Mike. Good hearing you, and you're doing good. good evening all and jim thank 176 00:22:49,059 --> 00:22:56,076 you for taking the chair tonight this cr and uh... this week in ham radio i've been uh... 177 00:22:56,076 --> 00:23:03,305 playing with my note i'm having trouble with it with uh... dtmf functionality and i've 178 00:23:03,305 --> 00:23:04,346 been working with rich 179 00:23:08,302 --> 00:23:20,868 The other thing that I've been working on is using my cell phone in an additional feature. 180 00:23:20,868 --> 00:23:28,221 Instead of Wi-Fi, I've figured out how to use it using Ethernet. And that has some advantages 181 00:23:28,221 --> 00:23:34,294 to some people. With that, let's go to Ron. W-A-3-V-E-E-W-H-C-R-W. 182 00:23:37,390 --> 00:23:45,023 WACRW and the group WA3VE over here in Westchester. All very, very good. Well, of course, we've 183 00:23:45,023 --> 00:23:51,126 been doing the field day prep and our theme this year for the press release is going to 184 00:23:51,126 --> 00:23:57,478 be A-RRLs as radio connects. Well, I kind of skied off of that a little bit and it's more 185 00:23:57,478 --> 00:24:05,392 like radio, amateur radio works when nothing else does. So that's kind of what, and basically 186 00:24:05,392 --> 00:24:12,956 it's going to be. The public is welcome to see how that occurs. Basically, I have better 187 00:24:12,956 --> 00:24:20,958 wording for that. it's been a long day, so I'm tired. basically, I'll be releasing that 188 00:24:20,958 --> 00:24:25,879 as well. Also, you'll be seeing an invitation for all those who are not part of the Corps 189 00:24:25,879 --> 00:24:36,050 field day group. So you're still all obviously welcome to come up. and you'll be seeing an 190 00:24:36,050 --> 00:24:41,574 invitation. I still need to get that over to Joe. And besides doing the field day stuff, 191 00:24:41,574 --> 00:24:48,909 not much else going on over here in terms of ham radio. Things have been very busy in other 192 00:24:48,909 --> 00:24:54,923 areas. So with that, let me turn it over to Jim over there in Malvern and see what he 193 00:24:54,923 --> 00:24:59,346 has to say. KC3RFG to take at WA3VEE. 194 00:25:03,082 --> 00:25:09,547 W-A-3-V-E-E. This is KC-3-R-F-G, Jim here in Malvern. Thanks a lot, Ron, for passing to 195 00:25:09,547 --> 00:25:16,954 me. Thank you, the other Jim, AF-3Z, for hosting this evening as well. Not too much to report 196 00:25:16,954 --> 00:25:24,640 on the radio front, Haven't been super active at all on the shack. However, recently I did 197 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:30,135 shift the position of all the radios in the shack, and after doing so, I picked up an 198 00:25:30,135 --> 00:25:37,316 RF noise problem. coming in on the boom mic cable and I did I've been looking at that 199 00:25:37,316 --> 00:25:42,197 for a couple of days and I came to figure out finally this afternoon that I originally had 200 00:25:42,197 --> 00:25:47,259 an extension cable on the boom mic because it didn't reach in the old configuration there 201 00:25:47,259 --> 00:25:53,077 was a lot of coiled up microphone cord and that was picking up interference only on 40 202 00:25:53,077 --> 00:25:58,398 meters. Anyhow when I got rid of the extra extension I found out I no longer needed and 203 00:25:58,398 --> 00:26:05,013 then double check the grounding on the boom mic actual metal stand, it went away. So yay, 204 00:26:05,013 --> 00:26:11,468 I got it all back in service on all the bands now. I really do like the boom mic on HF 205 00:26:11,468 --> 00:26:16,041 and the foot switch, it's so handy. So that's about it from here. With that, I'm gonna pass 206 00:26:16,041 --> 00:26:21,035 it over to W3MFB Mike. And sorry Mike, I think I doubled with you perfectly when we went to 207 00:26:21,035 --> 00:26:30,814 check in, I apologize for that. From KC3RFG, take it Mike. We're up with all KCE3, RFG, 208 00:26:30,814 --> 00:26:38,834 W3, MFP. Howdy, howdy all. Good to hear everybody. Haven't really played too much AM radio a little 209 00:26:38,834 --> 00:26:44,514 bit here and there. CR, thank you, thank you playing with that radio in the car. That's 210 00:26:44,514 --> 00:26:51,434 about it. Making some 10 meter contacts and things like that. Band hasn't really been spectacular, 211 00:26:51,434 --> 00:26:57,458 not today anyway. Was open over the weekend, thankfully, but... I really didn't have time 212 00:26:57,458 --> 00:27:07,822 to get on to too much. Do have a question tonight and I am going to be interested on hearing 213 00:27:07,822 --> 00:27:21,337 what everybody has to say. So with that, I will pass it to women K3 FHA W3MFD. K3MFP, 214 00:27:21,337 --> 00:27:29,143 K3FHA, thanks Mike and thanks to Jim for hosting tonight. Haven't done a whole lot on the 215 00:27:29,143 --> 00:27:37,860 radio, a few nets and so forth. I did do some work in the shack. I have two HF rigs now 216 00:27:37,860 --> 00:27:44,045 and so I had a bunch of antenna switches lying on the desk and I made a little stand so I 217 00:27:44,045 --> 00:27:48,759 could make them vertical and take up a lot less space and have them not slide around. 218 00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:59,579 now I have my... antenna switching between the two HF rigs, nicely set up and that's a 219 00:27:59,579 --> 00:28:05,274 big improvement. Don't have a whole lot of time unfortunately with everything else that's 220 00:28:05,274 --> 00:28:11,459 going on. But that's about it, I checking out some test equipment that I got also. But 221 00:28:11,459 --> 00:28:21,202 that's only peripherally AMRADIO related. So anyway, on to VIC, KC3TYX, K3FHA. 222 00:28:26,190 --> 00:28:36,810 Thank you, John. K3SHA, KC3TYX. A little radio activity this week. Some of you may remember, 223 00:28:36,810 --> 00:28:44,710 it's been quite a long time ago, but my first power supply, a Samlux, always had a fan in 224 00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:51,110 it. Basically, the fan would run all the time, even when you didn't have a load on it. And 225 00:28:51,110 --> 00:29:00,072 after much back and forth with the manufacturer, months of back and forth. They agreed, I sent 226 00:29:00,072 --> 00:29:04,484 them a video, they agreed it was the fan and I was worried I was going to have to send it 227 00:29:04,484 --> 00:29:10,426 to them but they were nice enough to send me new fan which sat on my workbench for about 228 00:29:10,426 --> 00:29:16,267 six months. So I finally got around, I replaced the fan, no fan noise when I turned on the 229 00:29:16,267 --> 00:29:21,555 power supply. I haven't really tested it under load, I just left it on for several hours and 230 00:29:21,555 --> 00:29:26,130 it never kicked in so hopefully it got rid of that and now I have a spare power supply. 231 00:29:26,254 --> 00:29:36,560 What else? Talking to a guy, KC3, RKW, he's on his net sometimes, the Duke of Earl, and 232 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:45,285 he had told me he hit a patch of good six meter. I had recently put a new six meter double 233 00:29:45,285 --> 00:29:50,288 bazooka, think Ron had suggested that up in my attic, and I tried it a little bit and 234 00:29:50,288 --> 00:29:57,407 made a couple local contacts on FTA, but didn't really hear too But a couple days ago there 235 00:29:57,407 --> 00:30:03,933 was a pretty good patch going on and I was able to have digital contacts with Connecticut, 236 00:30:03,933 --> 00:30:12,880 Nebraska, several, Minnesota, Florida, Iowa. And then about 20 minutes later I got Delaware, 237 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,846 Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania and that was it. So that opening must have closed up. 238 00:30:18,846 --> 00:30:23,299 And just a regular net. So it's been a pretty good week. So on that I'm going to pass it 239 00:30:23,299 --> 00:30:27,794 over to Bill. KC3OOK from KC3TYX. 240 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:41,864 KC3TYX, KC3OOK, thanks Vic and Jim. Thanks for taking the chair tonight. is tied up this 241 00:30:41,864 --> 00:30:51,477 week. Yeah, and Vic, I was looking at the DX tracker, or DX view in the morning, and 242 00:30:51,477 --> 00:30:56,758 I did notice one morning, and I think we had a temperature inversion, that yeah, the bands 243 00:30:56,758 --> 00:31:01,920 were lit up all the way up and down the East Coast. So it's great when you're able to 244 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:10,230 be home and hit it. For me this week, well, let's see. Chuck's not here to get... tower 245 00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:16,910 report so we actually worked three work sections three and a half days up at Joe's this past 246 00:31:16,910 --> 00:31:23,670 week and got a lot accomplished we just really just one it's not a major task but just one 247 00:31:23,670 --> 00:31:31,030 task left and that's to get the rotator and the thrust bearing and the mast mounted and 248 00:31:31,030 --> 00:31:36,890 ready to go and other than that it's just a few odds and ends just hold on some appurtenances 249 00:31:36,890 --> 00:31:46,020 and a little loctitey's and nuts and I really think it's done. Which is great, looking forward 250 00:31:46,020 --> 00:31:53,518 to seeing that in the air. me, I've been working. The ham shack is pretty much done, ready to 251 00:31:53,518 --> 00:32:01,278 start the operating station and the lab bench. Today I spent 14 hours staring at a sketch 252 00:32:01,278 --> 00:32:06,058 pad and a pen and I know where they're going to go now and I know how it's going to be laid 253 00:32:06,058 --> 00:32:11,858 out. Now I have to sit down and put it on paper and work out all the details. So that's about 254 00:32:11,858 --> 00:32:20,814 it for me and let's see, who do I turn it over to here? who's in my place. I turn it over 255 00:32:20,814 --> 00:32:30,895 to Luke, and it was good to talk to you today, Luke. KC3, SCY, KC3, okay. And thanks for 256 00:32:30,895 --> 00:32:38,258 turning it over to me. And Jim, like always, thanks for hosting. This week in Ham radio, 257 00:32:38,394 --> 00:32:47,422 I haven't been super busy. On Thursday, I'm going down to North Carolina with my aunt for 258 00:32:47,422 --> 00:32:58,788 a week, so that'll be good. And radio-wise, my uncle's brother got me um, or he gave 259 00:32:58,788 --> 00:33:11,586 me an AM radio, um, seven transistor, dual audios, super head radio kit. right now and 260 00:33:11,586 --> 00:33:20,291 that's coming along pretty good. So that's an AM radio so hopefully that works out good. 261 00:33:20,291 --> 00:33:34,980 on the PMAMnet there was no Joe net control he was on and me, I was the first pre-net check-in 262 00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:49,058 and then one other station checked in and... weeks ago we had like dead so anyway my last 263 00:33:49,058 --> 00:33:56,974 day of school was Friday so that was good so now I yeah I listening to some CW. They're 264 00:33:56,974 --> 00:34:02,074 not a ton of stations, but there's more than there is on the sideband in AM. I'll keep it 265 00:34:02,074 --> 00:34:09,594 moving here and turn it over to, I think, tail gunner, 383KFT. This is KC3SCY. 266 00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:21,750 W-A-3 K-C-Y W-A-3 Kentucky Fried Turkey. Okay Luke, very good. I'm juggling two things at 267 00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:32,873 once here, microphone and telephone. Anyway, we managed to get up a Comet G9 multi-band 268 00:34:32,873 --> 00:34:43,878 antenna this past week and I am using it right now. So I get good performance. We'll keep 269 00:34:43,878 --> 00:34:51,505 it up in the air. go from there. And garden is growing well. And anybody that needs rhubarb, 270 00:34:51,505 --> 00:34:59,794 let me know. I have lots of it to cut. Over to you, Charlie. November 3, Charlie Romeo 271 00:34:59,895 --> 00:35:03,298 Echo from WA-3 King Fox Tango. 272 00:35:06,830 --> 00:35:14,730 Thank you. Charlie here. Haven't done much this week. Started looking at the All-Star Echo 273 00:35:14,730 --> 00:35:21,630 Link and don't really need it right now since I don't have any rig in the car. But other 274 00:35:21,630 --> 00:35:30,010 than that, I don't have much else to say. I'll turn it over to KC3FQI and 3CRE. 275 00:35:34,334 --> 00:35:37,906 This is KC3SQI, am I making it in? 276 00:35:41,006 --> 00:35:42,731 And now you're making it an end. Go ahead. 277 00:35:47,310 --> 00:35:54,770 It's a lot better to check in when you're talking on the repeater frequency instead of on the 278 00:35:54,770 --> 00:36:05,790 input frequency to the repeater. tried to get in for a bunch of times, couldn't do it. So, 279 00:36:05,830 --> 00:36:10,510 then I looked over at the radio and thought that I was trying to talk on the input, so, 280 00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:24,746 oh well. taking the bus driving near Jim. As for him radio, not much with the radios. 281 00:36:24,746 --> 00:36:39,493 I did finish up submitting in the base for my new tower, my new tilt-over tower. So 282 00:36:39,493 --> 00:36:50,549 by the end of this week, I should be... ready to start transferring antennas over to the 283 00:36:50,549 --> 00:37:01,710 new tower. And that'll be a little bit better to use inch and a half rigid conduit for the 284 00:37:01,710 --> 00:37:11,564 mast rather than... for Chainlakes fans, I think it might stand up a little better 285 00:37:11,564 --> 00:37:12,076 to the win. 286 00:37:15,522 --> 00:37:24,050 Not much happening, so I will turn it over to John, KC3WWC, this is KC3SQI. 287 00:37:32,046 --> 00:37:35,872 This is KC3WWC. Am I getting in? 288 00:37:39,224 --> 00:37:42,110 John, maybe speak up a little bit, but you're in there solid. 289 00:37:45,608 --> 00:37:51,863 I am on RF this time, so that's new. I've been having some trouble. Doesn't seem like dinner 290 00:37:51,863 --> 00:38:01,699 mode to me. So my past week in radio I got the Bluetooth TNC on my Btech UV Pro working 291 00:38:01,699 --> 00:38:07,497 a little bit better, cleared the channel, the Bluetooth channel, and now it automatically 292 00:38:07,497 --> 00:38:15,244 reconnects like it's supposed to. I'm also testing a new to me small magnetic loop antenna 293 00:38:15,244 --> 00:38:21,079 from Alpha Antenna. It's really quite small and quick to deploy, kind of takes the fun 294 00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:28,254 out of it. used it for a park activation right before this met. So that's fun to play with. 295 00:38:28,874 --> 00:38:35,294 I repaired and retuned the Yagi that I'm using right now. I added a hairpin match, which I 296 00:38:35,294 --> 00:38:40,514 got to see what it does. It lowered the SWR. It didn't change the tuning though, but there 297 00:38:40,514 --> 00:38:49,934 are the resonance. that was a good learning experience. But when I'm listening to 985, 298 00:38:50,034 --> 00:38:51,986 I get like a full extra S unit out of 299 00:39:00,814 --> 00:39:09,120 So I had my All-Star node on a phone network behind my phone tethered and it would not connect. 300 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:16,755 kept failing. But the parrot test on another node would work. And I had some strange interference 301 00:39:16,755 --> 00:39:21,658 in the car, which was really kind of interesting because it only happened when the car was turned 302 00:39:21,658 --> 00:39:29,194 off. With that, oh I do have a question or two. With that I will hand back to Jim AF3's 303 00:39:29,194 --> 00:39:29,714 Edge. 304 00:39:37,038 --> 00:39:41,073 All right, very good, John. And yeah, there's a little hiss kind of noise on your signal, 305 00:39:41,073 --> 00:39:48,561 but able to copy everything there, so very good. And let me pause quickly. Is there 306 00:39:48,561 --> 00:39:54,388 anyone else out there who would like to check into the workbench tonight? This is AF3Z. Please. 307 00:40:00,088 --> 00:40:05,458 Jim, I remembered I do have a question if there's time at the end. KC-3, okay. 308 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:16,497 Okay Bill, and that was my next question. Is there anybody else who has a question that 309 00:40:16,497 --> 00:40:23,966 didn't say so before? I've got Mike MFB, Bill OOK, and then John WWC with questions. Anyone 310 00:40:23,966 --> 00:40:24,126 else? 311 00:40:34,188 --> 00:40:46,758 Very good. Just a reminder then, as we turn to the question... everybody to make any comments, 312 00:40:46,758 --> 00:40:53,407 observations, experiences you've had. Don't assume that your level of experience and knowledge 313 00:40:53,407 --> 00:41:00,069 isn't... and all learns from each other and contribute to the discussion. So please feel 314 00:41:00,069 --> 00:41:00,480 free to... 315 00:41:04,430 --> 00:41:11,136 So, first one we'll go to then is Mike W3MFB. What is your question tonight, Mike? 316 00:41:15,310 --> 00:41:20,293 Hey Jim, thank you, thank you. W3MFD, you know, it's funny right before I'm about to talk I 317 00:41:20,293 --> 00:41:25,913 start thinking of something else and I'm like, huh, I'm have to ask that another time. But 318 00:41:25,913 --> 00:41:34,964 this is more of a general question and a buddy of mine, JB, he texted me last night, I didn't 319 00:41:34,964 --> 00:41:42,879 see it until this morning, reminding me of the 146-580 simplex net you guys have. Bill, you're 320 00:41:42,879 --> 00:41:51,010 a host for the... area I imagine and to remind me that it was Saturday. 321 00:41:54,550 --> 00:42:01,270 My question is kind of general. Bill, I've heard you. CR, I've heard you. Jeff, I don't know 322 00:42:01,270 --> 00:42:06,970 if he's out there listening, but I've heard Jeff. I'm assuming if I, I know I can hear 323 00:42:06,970 --> 00:42:13,658 Ron, but I've never heard Ron. I don't think on that simplex net. I don't really, besides 324 00:42:13,658 --> 00:42:21,998 you guys, and I don't really hear anybody else. So it's always hard, it's always hard to pick 325 00:42:21,998 --> 00:42:30,818 or even know when to jump in. I guess the disadvantage of being down here in the valley, and I guess 326 00:42:30,818 --> 00:42:39,038 my question is, I guess for anybody that wishes to answer, do you guys hear a bunch of people 327 00:42:39,038 --> 00:42:48,326 as well or not hear a bunch of people? I know everybody's pretty much spread out. So pretty 328 00:42:48,326 --> 00:42:54,506 spread out all over this county. And then, you know, they're doing Lancaster County too. And 329 00:42:54,506 --> 00:43:00,586 then Bill, if you could tell me what zone I am, that would be awesome. Cause I'm not even 330 00:43:00,586 --> 00:43:10,086 sure. So that's the question there about the 146 580 simplex Saturday night net. Who you 331 00:43:10,086 --> 00:43:15,186 hear? Do you hear a bunch of people? Do you not? and Bill if you could tell me what zone 332 00:43:15,186 --> 00:43:20,658 I'm in. Thank you, AF3Z, WF3MFP. 333 00:43:24,462 --> 00:43:32,162 All right, Mike, I can tell you, you're in the twilight zone. All right, good question. And 334 00:43:32,162 --> 00:43:38,642 I forget who I was listening to somebody. But when you're first getting on the air, sometimes 335 00:43:38,642 --> 00:43:44,682 you turn on the rig and you're not hearing anybody. You don't know whether it's your radio, it's 336 00:43:44,682 --> 00:43:49,722 the antenna. We all run into that at times. Does my antenna get disconnected or fall down 337 00:43:49,722 --> 00:43:55,783 or what? So it is helpful to hear other people's experience to get a... of what we're hearing 338 00:43:55,783 --> 00:44:01,118 and is it normal or is it different or what. So anybody want to speak to that? I don't 339 00:44:01,118 --> 00:44:07,675 think I've ever checked into the Simplex Net. If I did, I'd forgotten. So anybody like 340 00:44:07,675 --> 00:44:13,340 to speak to your experience, how much you hear when you are listening to the Simplex Net on 341 00:44:13,340 --> 00:44:19,186 Saturday nights? This is the F3Z. 342 00:44:23,406 --> 00:44:32,263 All right, go for it, Ron. AF3 is it. and the workbench, we're always going to do that, 343 00:44:32,263 --> 00:44:42,326 round table workbench, whatever, workbench, WA3VE here in Westchester. I have tried to 344 00:44:42,326 --> 00:44:47,798 hear, I'm on the eastern front over here, I think the only couple people who are east of 345 00:44:47,798 --> 00:44:58,694 me who are regular users of the repeater are Harvey, Phil, and Tim AIS. So, and also 346 00:44:58,694 --> 00:45:09,314 south and east of me is Tom, KC-3 TMT. So I'm not even sure if those guys would hear. I have 347 00:45:09,314 --> 00:45:16,334 tried to hear stations, very rarely do I hear anyone. Now I do not have a beam yet aimed 348 00:45:16,334 --> 00:45:22,334 towards the west. When that happens, and that will be up in the attic, only because that's 349 00:45:22,334 --> 00:45:27,965 the highest point on the property. I don't have to worry about a tower or any of kind of stuff 350 00:45:27,965 --> 00:45:35,677 in the backyard. But I very rarely ever hear anybody. But I do hear Bill and I do hear CR 351 00:45:35,677 --> 00:45:44,870 pretty clearly when they check into that net. So not unusual not to hear stations if you're 352 00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:52,722 pretty far out of Manchester County, at least in my regard. AF3Z, W-A-3-Z-E-E. 353 00:45:56,789 --> 00:45:57,810 KC3TY 354 00:46:07,170 --> 00:46:08,754 Vic was in there. 355 00:46:13,582 --> 00:46:17,382 And somebody else, that, I'm Dick, I'll get to you in a second, was that somebody else 356 00:46:17,382 --> 00:46:18,802 right after Ron let go? 357 00:46:31,384 --> 00:46:35,745 John, you're a little noisy anywhere last time, but we'll take Vic and then I'll get back to 358 00:46:35,745 --> 00:46:39,154 you. KC3TYX, AF3Z. 359 00:46:42,670 --> 00:46:48,650 Yeah, KC3TYX. Yeah, same thing when I first started doing it, which hasn't been that long. 360 00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:56,110 I turned in there at 8.30 and I would hear nothing for quite a while and I would just kind of 361 00:46:56,110 --> 00:47:03,370 give up. But one night I just left the radio on and then all of a sudden I heard Bill OK 362 00:47:03,370 --> 00:47:16,148 as a net control south and I found out I could hear Bill and CR. Evan S.E.N. and Mike Zedovie. 363 00:47:16,148 --> 00:47:23,082 And I know all those guys live, I don't know, three to five miles away from me. But other 364 00:47:23,082 --> 00:47:28,446 than those guys, I rarely hear anybody. But once in a while, you know, someone will, all 365 00:47:28,446 --> 00:47:33,539 of a sudden, they'll come in from one of the other areas, which is really surprising. So 366 00:47:33,539 --> 00:47:38,462 that's what I enjoy about it, is the kind of the propagation's different every week. And 367 00:47:38,462 --> 00:47:42,558 so... Yeah, you'll hear the regulars, but then all of a sudden you'll hear somebody new that 368 00:47:42,558 --> 00:47:46,610 you weren't expecting. KC3TYX, back to NIST. 369 00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:56,762 Yeah, thank you Vic. yeah, propagation is very interesting. attention to. Alright John, give 370 00:47:56,762 --> 00:48:00,370 it a shot there. KC3WWCAF3Z. 371 00:48:04,536 --> 00:48:06,226 you 372 00:48:14,830 --> 00:48:20,214 John, if that was you, this time you had all kinds of noise and stuff and didn't hear much 373 00:48:20,214 --> 00:48:25,207 of anything. Very different than what you were before. Power supply or some kind of noise 374 00:48:25,207 --> 00:48:31,602 or somebody was doubling with you, I'm not sure. John, give it another try, KC3WWC, AF3Z. 375 00:48:35,368 --> 00:48:41,781 now at KC3WWP. much better. ahead. 376 00:48:46,154 --> 00:48:51,982 Check in this past week, and I only kind of barely heard like two or three people and 377 00:48:51,982 --> 00:48:52,584 they weren't always 378 00:48:58,188 --> 00:49:05,466 and see who you hear because then you do know who you can preach if you had to. But yeah, 379 00:49:05,466 --> 00:49:09,470 I really tried to go for the nearest. Maybe you can move around. There was a west. 380 00:49:35,118 --> 00:49:40,235 Thank you John, you've heard all of that. Yeah, it's very interesting stuff. Anyone else with 381 00:49:40,235 --> 00:49:48,155 comments on what you can hear, especially with the Simplex Net on Saturday evenings, but 382 00:49:48,155 --> 00:49:58,492 maybe there's some other Simplex experience you want to share? AF3Z. Whiskey 8, Charlie 383 00:49:58,492 --> 00:49:59,156 Romeo whiskey. 384 00:50:03,278 --> 00:50:10,162 Okay, we'll take the Romeo Whiskey after Bill. Bill was in there first. KC-300K, AF-3Z. 385 00:50:12,846 --> 00:50:20,754 Thanks Jim, AS3Z, KC30K, sorry about the double CR. Well, Mike, as you know, subject... 386 00:50:25,176 --> 00:50:26,431 keep it brief because I actually... 387 00:50:31,534 --> 00:50:36,818 in, really doesn't matter. You check in with any zone you hear. When it started out, was 388 00:50:36,818 --> 00:50:37,460 originally just 389 00:50:42,498 --> 00:50:53,404 The zones only refer to how they had divided up. south of Route 30 was... north of Route 390 00:50:53,404 --> 00:50:53,792 30. 391 00:51:01,422 --> 00:51:04,914 from, geez, Dalton. 392 00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:12,053 York down into. 393 00:51:16,398 --> 00:51:21,170 is now, we actually changed the name to the Langstrom Simplex Net to the... 394 00:51:27,374 --> 00:51:34,687 here. It really varies per night for me and I do find propagation and terrain interesting 395 00:51:34,687 --> 00:51:44,080 because Vic and I are only a few miles apart and Mike, Casey Five, ZOB is also close to 396 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:53,870 Vic and we hear very different stations during the To your question, Mike, if we have 397 00:51:53,870 --> 00:52:02,210 35 to 40, I probably hear all but about five or six. Sometimes some in the West, and some 398 00:52:02,210 --> 00:52:07,250 people are only working HDs and working low power, so don't always get them all. But when 399 00:52:07,250 --> 00:52:15,830 I started my first couple weeks, I got one check-in. So I was running a J-Pole with the Kenwood 400 00:52:15,830 --> 00:52:24,766 mobile radio and the antenna at about 23 feet. really lets you find out what your rig's doing. 401 00:52:25,486 --> 00:52:31,946 And I saw market improvements each time. When I went to the Diamond X50, huge jump. When 402 00:52:31,946 --> 00:52:38,786 I went to this 300, huge jump. And when I got up to 50 feet on the 510, another huge jump. 403 00:52:39,806 --> 00:52:47,206 So, sorry talking along here about that. that's the deal. And the other thing about listening, 404 00:52:47,666 --> 00:52:54,414 mentioned... We do try in the first round to just take only five check-ins because we recognize 405 00:52:54,414 --> 00:52:58,834 that some people are only going to hear a few. So we want to get through all three neck controls 406 00:52:58,834 --> 00:53:04,774 to make sure everybody that's out there listening hears someone within about the first 10 minutes. 407 00:53:05,294 --> 00:53:12,294 So I think that answers everything. So back to you, Jim. AS3Z, KC3O, OK. 408 00:53:15,618 --> 00:53:21,130 Thank you Bill, that's interesting, that's a good way to do it. CR, over to you, W8CRWAF3Z. 409 00:53:27,214 --> 00:53:33,897 Very good, Jim. My comment is propagation makes all the difference. know, some weeks I can 410 00:53:33,897 --> 00:53:39,919 hear central and east and I never hear west. But central and east, some weeks I can check 411 00:53:39,919 --> 00:53:46,262 in with either one of those. Then other weeks, like last week, I couldn't hear Kevin. And 412 00:53:46,262 --> 00:53:53,035 Kevin is just skipping a jump away. And I know he was there, but he was very noisy. 413 00:53:53,035 --> 00:53:58,482 So that's how it works. Good nights and bad nights. back to net, W8CRW. 414 00:54:06,932 --> 00:54:12,907 I heard another repeater coming in there. All right, very good. Thank you, CR. One last 415 00:54:12,907 --> 00:54:19,192 try here. Anybody else with experience you had trying to listen to the Simplex Net on Saturday 416 00:54:19,192 --> 00:54:22,194 nights? How much you hear or don't hear? This is AF3Z. 417 00:54:25,390 --> 00:54:27,890 KC30K, one last comment. 418 00:54:30,912 --> 00:54:36,274 I should have the Swellton receive set. 419 00:54:39,806 --> 00:54:50,724 Mike, you asked about when do you call out? If you hear anyone else calling, if you hear 420 00:54:50,724 --> 00:54:56,686 someone else calling into NET Control after they call, throw out your call sign because 421 00:54:56,686 --> 00:55:01,654 relays are important part of it as well. And you don't have to worry about doubling with 422 00:55:01,654 --> 00:55:08,682 anyone because with simplex... you can wait and listen and never hear the other stations. 423 00:55:08,682 --> 00:55:14,476 So we get doubles that the other two stations would never know they're doubling. So just 424 00:55:14,476 --> 00:55:19,099 put your call out there and see if somebody hears it and relays it in. So that's the other 425 00:55:19,099 --> 00:55:22,802 point. Back to net control, KC-3, okay. 426 00:55:27,086 --> 00:55:33,395 Alright thank you, Bill, let me get over to you Mike. Any follow up or whatever? W3MSB 427 00:55:33,395 --> 00:55:35,378 AF3Z. 428 00:56:14,414 --> 00:56:19,250 AA308 is checking and it woke up from under the bus AA308. 429 00:56:57,102 --> 00:57:03,355 Okay, Mike, I don't know what was going on there. Leon, heard you. I didn't hear anything and 430 00:57:03,355 --> 00:57:09,629 I couldn't bring up the repeater. Then Leon called in on the digital side. So I fired 431 00:57:09,629 --> 00:57:15,412 up EchoLink here and went into transmit and then I could hear you down there weak when 432 00:57:15,412 --> 00:57:23,456 I was supposedly transmitting. I was hearing you through the radio. So let me check with 433 00:57:23,456 --> 00:57:31,869 somebody else. Maybe I was... I don't know what's going on. want to speak to what just 434 00:57:31,869 --> 00:57:40,815 happened there? I'm confused. Jim, this is WA3VE. Very, very, very low audio, Mike, and 435 00:57:40,815 --> 00:57:46,440 you know I can copy on the input on RF. you're using RF, I can certainly check on your next 436 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:52,306 transmission. But very low audio. Back to you, Jim, AF3Z, WA3VE. 437 00:57:56,174 --> 00:58:05,754 Yeah, I was mystified. Mike, do you want to try it again there? Because, I didn't hear 438 00:58:05,754 --> 00:58:09,330 anything until the very end of AF-3Z. 439 00:58:20,854 --> 00:58:25,236 He doesn't have his PL on. I hear him beautifully on the input. 440 00:58:33,070 --> 00:58:42,924 explains it, W3MFB, this is AF3Z. See if you've got propagation now. Talk about amateur hour 441 00:58:42,924 --> 00:58:49,157 over in the MFB shack. Sorry, keep, my, all right, so I have the 991 alpha and I got the 442 00:58:49,157 --> 00:58:56,020 soft menu button open. And Ron, you'll know, you have the radio. The reverse button is right 443 00:58:56,020 --> 00:59:06,001 over the tone and the CS button. So, fat finger must have hit that while I hitting the reverse, 444 00:59:06,001 --> 00:59:12,194 trying to listen to people like I like to do on the net or any of these nets. And that's 445 00:59:12,194 --> 00:59:17,556 probably what happened. So what I was trying to say was thank you, thank you all. And Bill, 446 00:59:17,556 --> 00:59:23,829 thanks for making that second point about if I hear somebody call and wait until they're 447 00:59:23,829 --> 00:59:30,691 done and then call right after. So that's good point. And I'm glad you guys have the relay 448 00:59:30,691 --> 00:59:37,136 system going on there as well. So, brilliant, brilliant. So thank you all for all your information 449 00:59:37,136 --> 00:59:43,328 and your tidbits and knowledge and all that. I'm going to stay away from that button for 450 00:59:43,328 --> 00:59:46,674 a little while. AF3ZW3MFB. 451 00:59:50,062 --> 00:59:56,229 I got a good laugh out of this anyway. Thank you. Interesting conversation. Good question. 452 00:59:56,229 --> 01:00:02,436 Alright John, KC3WWC, say something not too long and we'll make sure we're hearing you 453 01:00:02,436 --> 01:00:04,178 okay. This is AF3Z. 454 01:00:18,252 --> 01:00:26,062 I don't know if you can change anything, but you're quite noisy. I'm sort of hearing everything, 455 01:00:26,062 --> 01:00:27,466 but it's not comfortable to... 456 01:00:43,714 --> 01:00:50,557 That was you, John. That was worse. Let me go to Bill here, he had a question and then we'll 457 01:00:50,557 --> 01:00:56,632 come back to you John and if we can work that out. KC300K, what's your question tonight? 458 01:00:56,693 --> 01:01:03,794 AF3Z? It's a simple one and a brief one, hopefully. I have two questions. 459 01:01:07,246 --> 01:01:07,728 for this. 460 01:01:10,922 --> 01:01:14,610 is I know that standard rack cabinets are 19 inch. 461 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,146 would be a standard depth design. 462 01:01:31,470 --> 01:01:35,146 What are their recommendations for a good? 463 01:01:41,518 --> 01:01:48,578 18 and 20 inches. So I'm just curious what other people have. And that's it Jim, back to you, 464 01:01:48,658 --> 01:01:50,918 AS3Z, KC3, oh okay. 465 01:01:54,190 --> 01:02:02,819 Alright Bill, so you want the Boadanker answer, not the ICOM 7300 answer, right? is correct. 466 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:08,688 guess the boat anchor answer drives it. Although I have to say, just looking at the one scope 467 01:02:08,688 --> 01:02:14,856 I got from Ron, that looks like about 18 inches it needs by the time you get the plug in the 468 01:02:14,856 --> 01:02:25,394 back. Back to you Jim, AM3Z, KC30, okay. I couldn't resist. Anybody with experience 469 01:02:25,394 --> 01:02:39,570 on rack and shelves, what kind of depth is good. variety of 470 01:02:44,942 --> 01:02:52,179 John, you should have some experience here. Go ahead, this is AF-36. two of my racks. 471 01:02:56,298 --> 01:03:06,996 One rack is one foot five inches. One foot five inches and the other one is one foot six. 472 01:03:09,358 --> 01:03:13,417 You're looking at 17, 18 inches. 473 01:03:16,926 --> 01:03:27,955 as a depth. I'm sure there are... And that's what mine are. Call it a foot and a half. 474 01:03:27,955 --> 01:03:39,015 And you try not to have too many things protruding out the back of a chassis when you mount 475 01:03:39,015 --> 01:03:50,170 things on a panel. So if you use 12-inch chassis or 14-inch chassis, you're okay. But as you're 476 01:03:50,170 --> 01:03:57,254 approaching 16 or 17 inches, if it's an open rack, no back in it, then it doesn't matter. 477 01:03:57,254 --> 01:04:02,217 And one of my racks is like that. There's no door on the back. But I have another one that 478 01:04:02,217 --> 01:04:11,282 does have a door, so you're limited there. This is WA-3KFT. 479 01:04:14,936 --> 01:04:22,359 Thank you John and welcome back Joe. Good to hear you. Go ahead Joe. This is AF3Z. Yeah, 480 01:04:22,359 --> 01:04:27,954 I'm getting ready for Luke. We have mentoring tomorrow and Wednesday. 481 01:04:30,958 --> 01:04:37,218 There's no standard depth to a rack. I have racks up at the repeater site that are 30 inches. 482 01:04:37,258 --> 01:04:43,478 I have some in the basement that are 26. I have some that are 14. The only thing standard about 483 01:04:43,478 --> 01:04:50,678 the rack is the rack panel width, which is 19 inches. Now the rack will be wider than 19 484 01:04:50,678 --> 01:04:59,178 inches because things like 21 and a half or something. I forget. the screw that you screw 485 01:04:59,178 --> 01:05:05,373 into... in a bit from the edge of the rack. But racks can vary all over the place for 486 01:05:05,373 --> 01:05:09,746 depth. Back to you, Jim. 487 01:05:13,870 --> 01:05:27,386 Okay, thank you Joe. Anybody else have any comments on this? V3 VEE. Good run. Very 488 01:05:27,386 --> 01:05:33,926 good. Have a sleep over here, but I think Bill you also asked about shelving. And of course 489 01:05:33,926 --> 01:05:40,886 the ideal is to be able to get to the back of your equipment. However, here things slide 490 01:05:40,886 --> 01:05:48,506 out pretty readily. And I have no way to not use shelving. The radio is in front of me here 491 01:05:48,506 --> 01:05:57,335 and the shelving that holds all the monitors. That is a full 24 inch depth. And that is quite 492 01:05:57,335 --> 01:06:08,139 adequate. Let's put it this way. Everything fits. So the radios on the left, those are 493 01:06:08,139 --> 01:06:17,083 on 16-inch shelves. And the system I have over here that I highly recommend, it's pricey, 494 01:06:17,083 --> 01:06:23,305 but it works. And you never have to worry about things caving in. And that's the dual channel. 495 01:06:23,305 --> 01:06:31,851 I think their one name brand is Closetmade, but these things are dual channel standards 496 01:06:31,851 --> 01:06:39,408 and the brackets are very, very robust. So 16 inch and 24 inch if that's what you were 497 01:06:39,408 --> 01:06:48,135 asking about shelving at least. And yes, on a rack, I would recommend using a rack that 498 01:06:48,135 --> 01:06:57,751 has as much depth as you have reasonable room for. here that houses all my amplifiers is 499 01:06:57,751 --> 01:07:05,170 a full 24 inch depth. Back to you Jim, AF3ZWA3VEA. 500 01:07:09,486 --> 01:07:14,626 Okay, very good. We're having a real in-depth conversation here tonight. Bill, how are we 501 01:07:14,626 --> 01:07:18,626 doing? I think you probably have a good bit of information, though it didn't answer the 502 01:07:18,626 --> 01:07:28,079 question completely. I mean, you have to make up your mind. KC-3-0-K-A-F-3-Z. KC3Z? KC3, 503 01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:33,724 oh okay. Yes, it did answer the question completely. And it just put me comfortable with the kind 504 01:07:33,724 --> 01:07:41,760 of numbers I was seeing. appreciate that the information on the racks and I am going to 505 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:46,770 try and build one myself, kind of make it look like an old rack. 506 01:07:50,114 --> 01:07:55,728 do know that sometimes the plugs and cords be nice if all the power clubs come with a 507 01:07:55,728 --> 01:07:56,370 90 degree connector. 508 01:08:00,462 --> 01:08:07,122 at I guess between 18 and 20 inches for the shelves and then the actual size of the risers 509 01:08:07,122 --> 01:08:15,789 are going to be 24 inches wide. radios will sit on them, but there'll be a space between 510 01:08:15,789 --> 01:08:20,834 them and the back of the riser and there'll be panels that come off. So I'll have a wiring 511 01:08:20,834 --> 01:08:29,094 rack behind that. So I'll have a total of 24. So I appreciate it. That is... KC-3, okay, 512 01:08:29,094 --> 01:08:30,069 back to neck control. 513 01:08:34,029 --> 01:08:39,901 Thank you Bill and congratulations on all the progress you're making down there. Still looking 514 01:08:39,901 --> 01:08:45,243 forward to seeing it someday. And I've got this mental picture but who knows what it looks 515 01:08:45,243 --> 01:08:52,536 like for real. Alright John, hopefully we can get through to you this time and hear you well. 516 01:08:52,536 --> 01:09:07,426 KC3WWCAF3Z. Trying our best. How's this? Don't whisper but speak up at hearing everything. 517 01:09:09,997 --> 01:09:15,893 So last week All Star was giving me trouble. I had it on my phone hotspot for the first 518 01:09:18,296 --> 01:09:24,120 to a parent node, so it wasn't working, but I could not get into 985. It just kept saying 519 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:30,523 connection failed. Does anybody else have this experience? Is it something with 985? Is it 520 01:09:30,523 --> 01:09:36,321 something that I should do differently? Thank you. Back to you, KC3WW. 521 01:09:40,046 --> 01:09:49,073 John, first of all, did you send a message to N3QBE to Martha to get on the 985 list AF3Z? 522 01:09:52,238 --> 01:09:53,911 All star node works fine. 523 01:10:01,646 --> 01:10:10,846 So you are on the list, so that's good. Anybody have some response for John there on the, I 524 01:10:10,846 --> 01:10:17,190 missed a little bit at the beginning, Al, if you're talking All-Star or what? Anybody else 525 01:10:17,190 --> 01:10:19,058 have a comment? AF3 is it? 526 01:10:23,522 --> 01:10:31,607 W3GMS. Joe. There's a report in the end, I'll tell you. 527 01:10:35,278 --> 01:10:42,220 Hey John, I haven't gotten any complaints from anybody else. We have probably 15 different 528 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:50,122 All-Star check-ins over a given 24 hour period signing on and off and things like that. 529 01:10:50,122 --> 01:10:55,904 And I haven't received any issue. You're still on the permission list. The permission list 530 01:10:55,904 --> 01:11:02,245 goes by node number. So if you have a dash one or a dash two or something, I think Martha 531 01:11:02,245 --> 01:11:10,388 has to put that, that's a new... on the permission list. But if the node is the same inside and 532 01:11:10,388 --> 01:11:18,570 it works and it doesn't work outside, that's can't think of a thing that would call for 533 01:11:18,570 --> 01:11:22,510 that on 985. And as I mentioned, there's no other reports of an issue. Go ahead. 534 01:11:28,206 --> 01:11:33,819 Okay, that's good to know. I didn't know if there was a network, if there had to be a 535 01:11:33,819 --> 01:11:38,277 certain network or something, and I could get other nodes to work and other stuff. So it's 536 01:11:38,277 --> 01:11:45,914 something I'll continue to debug, but on my side. Thank you. wish I could help you more, 537 01:11:45,996 --> 01:11:51,313 we just haven't had that issue. So turn the crank, watch the checklist drop, and I'm sure 538 01:11:51,313 --> 01:11:56,490 you'll figure it out. 73GMS. 73GMS. How many checked in tonight? 539 01:12:00,238 --> 01:12:06,669 I can't talk while I'm thinking here. I'll count you as a chicken. A chicken. Chicken. 540 01:12:06,669 --> 01:12:16,982 Oh, I'm in bad shape tonight. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, I think 16. 541 01:12:16,982 --> 01:12:27,099 And thanks for jumping in, Joe. and it's always good to hear you. So let me just drop it here. 542 01:12:27,099 --> 01:12:32,690 I think we're done with that. Any other questions or comments? Call now. is AFL. 543 01:12:48,866 --> 01:12:54,788 Hopefully nobody's falling asleep during that nice long pause. All right, very good. Let's 544 01:12:54,788 --> 01:13:01,681 see if one more call here. Anybody, any questions that popped up since the last call or anybody 545 01:13:01,681 --> 01:13:05,833 else out there who's been listening, we'd like to let us know you're listening. We'd like 546 01:13:05,833 --> 01:13:12,116 to hear that you're there. so if anybody wants to check in here as we're wrapping it up, 547 01:13:12,116 --> 01:13:17,037 again, we'd like to hear from you if you've been listening. So any other check-ins here? 548 01:13:17,037 --> 01:13:18,258 This is AF3. 549 01:13:24,598 --> 01:13:26,930 Echo Mike Sierra. 550 01:13:35,886 --> 01:13:44,382 Jerry, Echo Mike Sierra, electric motive, no that's an F on the end, electromotive force. 551 01:13:46,414 --> 01:13:51,114 Mike Sierra, but I know your call. Good evening, Jerry. Any comments you'd like to make to the 552 01:13:51,114 --> 01:13:59,394 group? This is AF3Z. Nope, this is Chris. KD3 echo Mike Sierra, Emergency Medical Services. 553 01:14:00,314 --> 01:14:05,034 So, new user, I talked to Joe a couple times, but this is my first time listening to the 554 01:14:05,034 --> 01:14:05,298 Money Night. 555 01:14:09,592 --> 01:14:13,455 Good Chris, sorry about that. Your voice even sounded kind of like Jerry and the beginning 556 01:14:13,455 --> 01:14:20,931 of your call got cut off. So I only heard the EMS and I thought it EMS. So welcome aboard. 557 01:14:20,931 --> 01:14:25,034 For my own curiosity, where are you located Chris? 558 01:14:28,398 --> 01:14:34,778 Right now I'm in my house on the MHT in Whitehorse, right on 340 if you know where the Whitehorse 559 01:14:34,778 --> 01:14:41,658 Fire Company is or the Whitehorse Luncheonette, the little diner there. We're right there. 560 01:14:42,198 --> 01:14:45,318 I'm usually on mobile. I do a lot of work in the area, so I'm usually on mobile throughout 561 01:14:45,318 --> 01:14:48,678 the day. But as of right now, we're just here in the town of Whitehorse. 562 01:14:53,902 --> 01:14:58,202 And you are doing very well with an HT. There's a little bit of hiss in the background. Your 563 01:14:58,202 --> 01:15:03,802 audio's good and coming in very nicely there with the HT. Well, thanks for calling in here. 564 01:15:03,822 --> 01:15:10,422 And I'm glad I got your call and everything right. Welcome aboard. Anybody else who would 565 01:15:10,422 --> 01:15:16,422 like to call in, check in with us here before we close the door on the round, or the workbench 566 01:15:16,422 --> 01:15:17,810 tonight, AF3Z? 567 01:15:22,700 --> 01:15:23,282 you 568 01:15:28,750 --> 01:15:33,010 Just trying to check in earlier during my parks on the air. I have a quick question with anyone 569 01:15:33,010 --> 01:15:38,950 who has any experience on six meters. The only portable rig that I have that borderlines on 570 01:15:38,950 --> 01:15:45,110 HF and I've had some varied luck with that. Just out of curiosity, what wattage is everyone 571 01:15:45,110 --> 01:15:48,690 transmitting for those of you who have experience on six meters? Most of my experience has been 572 01:15:48,690 --> 01:15:53,270 on two meters so far, a little bit on 10. And I'm just trying to get an idea of what people 573 01:15:53,270 --> 01:15:53,590 are using. 574 01:15:57,388 --> 01:16:01,247 3QNC. Yeah, that's right. 575 01:16:04,428 --> 01:16:11,179 back, you're a little stronger now. Good to hear ya. Anybody have a response there on 576 01:16:11,179 --> 01:16:19,136 six meters and what kind of power you're running? This is AF3Z. Mango. 577 01:16:23,086 --> 01:16:35,495 You can turn it right over to John W.E.3.K.A.F.T. This is A.F.3.Z. I usually just do sideband 578 01:16:35,796 --> 01:16:44,378 and then occasionally that FM repeater in Honeybrook. for sideband I'm usually running anywhere between, 579 01:16:44,378 --> 01:16:53,772 I mean the rig will do 100, but I usually run about 70 watts depending, I mean it depends 580 01:16:53,772 --> 01:17:03,298 if there's an opening. or as I like to say, when people, when there's a contest, you know, 581 01:17:03,378 --> 01:17:11,098 like the January and summer, I forget what it is, UHF, VHF contest, everybody out of the 582 01:17:11,098 --> 01:17:15,118 woodwork and it seems like you end up working the same people over and over again during 583 01:17:15,118 --> 01:17:22,770 those contests. But yeah, around 70 watts or so, only because like I only have a hundred. 584 01:17:23,182 --> 01:17:27,263 And if somebody asked me to turn it up and I'm always running 100 watts, it's just kind 585 01:17:27,263 --> 01:17:33,540 of silly. I can't turn it up any higher. So not that that much 30 watts or so is not 586 01:17:33,540 --> 01:17:38,884 going to really do anything, but you never know. So yeah, that's right in the middle of the 587 01:17:38,884 --> 01:17:46,840 road there, sort of, is how much I run. Sometimes less. Honestly, I like running less for some 588 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:53,309 reason. I always get yelled at by Barry, KD3X about that. Uh, you know, whatever you need 589 01:17:53,309 --> 01:17:59,702 to do to make the contact, I guess. Uh, I always feel like it's like, uh, manhunt or hide and 590 01:17:59,702 --> 01:18:05,784 seek. Uh, you can hear them pretty well. You have a pretty darn chance of them hearing you. 591 01:18:06,204 --> 01:18:12,287 So, uh, you know, I just kind of take it easy on the, on the power. Uh, put over to John, 592 01:18:12,287 --> 01:18:22,898 uh, Oh God, just lack KFT. Sorry. Just, uh, I just lost. KFTW3MFB, sorry. 593 01:18:26,386 --> 01:18:37,334 W-A-3-K-F-T. The best I can do is a radio that has, that claims to have 100 watts, let's 594 01:18:37,334 --> 01:18:46,380 put it that way. Typically I'm running 80 to 90 watts. And I do have a six element beam. 595 01:18:46,380 --> 01:18:57,006 that, and most of my activity on six meters is single sideband. But... A few decades 596 01:18:57,006 --> 01:19:08,866 ago, my go-to six-meter rig was a little 5-watt AM rig. And a lot of it depends on the antenna. 597 01:19:09,806 --> 01:19:19,546 And in my case, having the antenna at 50 feet in the air, 45, 50 feet in the air, certainly 598 01:19:19,546 --> 01:19:27,095 helped when I was running low power. The beam isn't that high off the ground anymore. I 599 01:19:27,095 --> 01:19:36,832 had a squalo up at 52 feet, but it's a great antenna, omnidirectional and you hear everything 600 01:19:36,832 --> 01:19:45,629 in any direction. But my beams have never been that high. I want to say 35 feet is where 601 01:19:45,629 --> 01:19:51,954 my 6-meter beam is. So we go from there. This is WA-3KFT. 602 01:19:55,864 --> 01:20:03,822 Thank you, John. Also thank you, Mike. Joe, think it is entry Q &C. Over to you. Any follow-up 603 01:20:03,822 --> 01:20:04,051 there? 604 01:20:08,748 --> 01:20:14,444 I the feedback. I've been doing six meters on parks on the air, so looking for portable 605 01:20:14,444 --> 01:20:19,664 rigs to take out. I do have a six meter rig. It's pretty old. I think it's older than 606 01:20:19,664 --> 01:20:24,165 me, actually. And weighs a ton, so trekking that through the woods is always fun, along 607 01:20:24,165 --> 01:20:26,728 with a big battery. So I do have a couple smaller units. 608 01:20:31,246 --> 01:20:35,366 I'm if everyone's running 100, I'm guessing that's probably my issue. I'm probably just 609 01:20:35,366 --> 01:20:39,946 not pushing out enough power, which is good to know. And I appreciate everyone's feedback. 610 01:20:40,126 --> 01:20:45,306 Longtime listener to the club here, so I appreciate everyone's feedback this evening. 73 and 3 611 01:20:45,306 --> 01:20:45,726 QSC. 612 01:20:50,850 --> 01:20:56,565 Thanks for joining in here. looked you up on QRZ and it says GAP. So yeah, you're into 613 01:20:56,565 --> 01:21:02,501 the repeater very, very well. I didn't put out another call, but any other feedback there 614 01:21:02,501 --> 01:21:08,126 on six meters, I didn't check around again. So any other comments there? AF3Z. WA3VE. 615 01:21:15,886 --> 01:21:24,230 energetic elf. Go ahead, Ron. Very good. Yeah, I'm kind of bouncing between the shop and the 616 01:21:24,230 --> 01:21:31,610 shack, so I'm on All-Star right now. But anyway, also there are a number of on 6 meters. I know 617 01:21:31,610 --> 01:21:38,970 John is familiar with those, KFT. But the guys up in Pottstown have nets on Wednesday night. 618 01:21:39,310 --> 01:21:46,650 And I think if you just go on the A-R-R-L site, or in Google in general, and you just put it 619 01:21:46,650 --> 01:21:52,666 in the search engine, amateur radio 6 meter nets. southeastern pennsylvania you should 620 01:21:52,666 --> 01:21:59,437 be able to uh... find something there's also one of our uh... repeater group uh... users 621 01:21:59,437 --> 01:22:04,856 uh... stephanie coals i don't remember her call right off but she's uh... going to be joining 622 01:22:04,856 --> 01:22:14,114 us for that on sunday night on six meters and she is located up in wind gap pennsylvania 623 01:22:14,415 --> 01:22:21,303 and that's the actual gap that uh... you go through uh... on route thirty three north from 624 01:22:21,384 --> 01:22:26,364 allentown that after you get through that gap you're officially in the polka dot mountains 625 01:22:26,364 --> 01:22:31,129 that gives you some geographic stuff that's an input on six meters from this end they have 626 01:22:31,129 --> 01:22:33,330 three set w a three v e 627 01:22:36,910 --> 01:22:44,250 Thank you, Ron. All right. Anybody else who wanted to add a comment on anything at this 628 01:22:44,250 --> 01:22:46,870 point? And then we will wrap it up. AF3Z. 629 01:22:53,998 --> 01:23:02,458 The caulk, the woodwork, they keep coming out. W3MFB and then KFT again, AF3Z here. I'm going 630 01:23:02,458 --> 01:23:06,718 to let John go, WA3KFT, go ahead. And then I'll go. 631 01:23:10,126 --> 01:23:19,030 Some frequencies on six meters that are busy. I run a net nine o'clock Sunday night, 50 632 01:23:19,030 --> 01:23:34,018 decimal 550, single side. Monday night, 730, 50 decimal 150. That's 50 decimal 150. That's 633 01:23:34,018 --> 01:23:34,938 a pack rat net. 634 01:23:38,444 --> 01:23:51,057 Wednesday night, 50 decimal 130, 50 decimal 130 is the Pottstown sideband net, and 50 635 01:23:51,057 --> 01:24:02,881 decimal 400, 50 decimal 400 at 9 p.m. is the Pottstown AM amplitude modulation net. And 636 01:24:02,881 --> 01:24:13,514 nine at, no, eight o'clock Friday night, fifth. 50 decimal 160, 50 decimal 160 is Delaware 637 01:24:13,514 --> 01:24:19,474 Valley Friends. So if you need a repeat, ask me, WA3KF. 638 01:24:25,651 --> 01:24:29,822 And yeah, Joe, do you need a repeat on any of that? 639 01:24:33,454 --> 01:24:37,214 I appreciate all that feedback. I mean I was driving so I had to whip out my phone real 640 01:24:37,214 --> 01:24:41,454 quick and start writing that down. But yeah, that's perfect. I appreciate that so much. 641 01:24:42,274 --> 01:24:45,714 You'll definitely start hearing me on the six meters then once I get everything up and running. 642 01:24:46,034 --> 01:24:48,534 And I appreciate it. N3, QNC. 643 01:24:52,270 --> 01:24:55,103 Very good Joe. Mike, you have a comment still. 644 01:24:58,348 --> 01:25:08,025 He nailed them. John got them all. Yeah, I only knew of the Wednesday ones, but yeah, 645 01:25:08,025 --> 01:25:13,509 he got the rest of them, so that's brilliant. Yeah, I had a different question, but it's 646 01:25:13,509 --> 01:25:14,560 off topic, I guess. 647 01:25:18,894 --> 01:25:27,894 Okay, and it's 2124 according to my little clock here. Any other final comments or anything 648 01:25:27,894 --> 01:25:30,674 for the workbench this evening? This is AF3Z. 649 01:25:43,950 --> 01:25:48,049 sounding quiet and of course everybody can go to bed if they want but Mike if you want to 650 01:25:48,049 --> 01:25:56,381 air your question those of us who are still here can listen AF3Z. appreciate it. I'm 651 01:25:56,381 --> 01:26:04,887 just having fun and had a question. For days back, back in the day, like when the space 652 01:26:04,887 --> 01:26:11,241 shuttle was going up and down and all that, were you guys listening to any of that traffic 653 01:26:11,241 --> 01:26:17,896 from, I guess, Florida and Houston and to the shuttle and whatnot? And where the radio is 654 01:26:17,896 --> 01:26:23,129 able to, did you have radios that were able to listen to, I guess? I guess you had the 655 01:26:23,129 --> 01:26:30,238 Mars Modem at that point. be able to hear some of that traffic, because I know they used like 656 01:26:30,238 --> 01:26:36,378 around 120 megahertz, and they used a lot of frequencies, but I was just curious if anybody 657 01:26:36,378 --> 01:26:44,034 back in the day of your, or your, or whatever. able to listen to any of that traffic with 658 01:26:44,034 --> 01:26:50,834 the space shuttle and NASA and all that or even before that AF3Z W3MFP. 659 01:26:53,932 --> 01:27:00,543 Mike, and you're obviously not talking amateur radio traffic, NASA space shuttle traffic 660 01:27:00,543 --> 01:27:03,698 or whatever. Anybody able to listen to that AF3Z? 661 01:27:11,199 --> 01:27:12,718 W W 662 01:27:16,522 --> 01:27:25,200 Good, go ahead, John. As a kid back in the early 90s, I remember playing with the scanner and 663 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:33,057 listening to these things that I understood to be like space station or shuttle or whatever. 664 01:27:33,057 --> 01:27:39,962 They were discussing the experiments that they were conducting and that sort of thing. I 665 01:27:39,962 --> 01:27:45,957 thought it was amateur radio, but I didn't know back then. What confused me is that it would 666 01:27:45,957 --> 01:27:53,213 hang on for a little while. It's not like eight minutes as it's... the ISS does now. So maybe 667 01:27:53,213 --> 01:27:57,984 it was, yeah, maybe they were kind of holding their position or maybe I was listening to 668 01:27:57,984 --> 01:28:05,258 something else, but I think I did. That's you. Three GMS, back in again. 669 01:28:08,344 --> 01:28:15,519 Joe, I just started to click on top of you. Go ahead, Joe. Yeah, answer Mike's question, 670 01:28:15,519 --> 01:28:25,143 years ago Fort Meade in Maryland used to take all the space station traffic and put it 671 01:28:25,143 --> 01:28:31,966 out on HF on amateur radio. And I forget the exact frequencies. I remember 75 meters they 672 01:28:31,966 --> 01:28:32,296 would put 673 01:28:36,782 --> 01:28:42,902 just listen to myself here. It's a little bit delayed on the couch here relaxing for a few 674 01:28:42,902 --> 01:28:47,982 minutes. So Fort Meade, Maryland would get it off of whatever frequency the original transmissions 675 01:28:47,982 --> 01:28:55,042 were on and replay it. We can't call it broadcast, but essentially it was rebroadcasting it on 676 01:28:55,042 --> 01:29:07,374 the 75 meter amateur radio band and was all, the rebroadcast was in single sideband. W3GMS 677 01:29:07,374 --> 01:29:08,938 or Mike, whoever wants to get it. 678 01:29:12,543 --> 01:29:21,673 if I got it. Okay, and going back to John. Very good, Joe. I sort of remember hearing 679 01:29:21,673 --> 01:29:28,454 that, I don't think I ever listened. Back to you, John. don't know if any, all right. First 680 01:29:28,454 --> 01:29:33,234 of all, anybody else have information for John's AF3Z here? 681 01:29:42,562 --> 01:29:52,055 Maybe it was Mike. Now I'm really confused. It was Mike. W3MFBAF3Z. Thank you, W3MFP. 682 01:29:52,055 --> 01:29:58,481 Yeah, I was just curious. I was curious and thank you, Joe, and thank you, John, for your 683 01:29:58,481 --> 01:30:07,330 information there. Yeah, I just, you know, I wasn't into radio back in the day and I didn't 684 01:30:07,330 --> 01:30:15,438 know if some of you folks may have heard some of that stuff. Everything's digital now and 685 01:30:15,438 --> 01:30:22,718 the space bands that they use are up into the high end that some of us play with, I guess. 686 01:30:22,738 --> 01:30:29,658 Not me, but I was just curious if anybody was listening to that traffic. So now I know we 687 01:30:29,658 --> 01:30:34,558 have the ISS repeater and sometimes if we're fortunate we can talk to the astronauts on 688 01:30:34,558 --> 01:30:42,831 two meter and whatnot. But we do have our amateur satellites. thought it would be interesting 689 01:30:42,831 --> 01:30:49,255 to be able to catch some of that in the flesh on the analog, you know, if somebody had. So 690 01:30:49,255 --> 01:30:56,730 I appreciate it. Thanks for indulging me at the late hour of the workbench. AF3Z, W3MFB. 691 01:31:02,434 --> 01:31:09,107 That you again, Jim. All I heard was something, Jim. do is I start transmitting. on All-Star 692 01:31:09,688 --> 01:31:15,381 and I start transmitting right before Mike is done and that kicks care of the delay and 693 01:31:15,381 --> 01:31:20,183 Alicia can hear me. If I would transmit right when he was done you'd never hear me because 694 01:31:20,183 --> 01:31:28,127 of the latency. An interesting thing, my good friend Doug Wilkins who passed away maybe 695 01:31:28,127 --> 01:31:38,410 three years ago now, he was a partner in a company that got a contract from NASA to build a audio 696 01:31:38,410 --> 01:31:46,070 processing unit that was used on all the communication back and forth. And I have a brand new one 697 01:31:46,070 --> 01:31:57,290 of those in the box that will be displayed in the museum. I, Doug had pancreatic cancer and 698 01:31:57,290 --> 01:32:03,590 he would come over and kind of give me a few things as his runway was getting shorter. I 699 01:32:03,670 --> 01:32:08,927 remember this box? He says, open this. He says, I wager to say you're probably the only person 700 01:32:08,927 --> 01:32:13,249 that has one of those. I've never put audio throughout to see what it sounds. I may do 701 01:32:13,249 --> 01:32:19,832 that at some point in time, but I have the actual audio processing that they used on those 702 01:32:19,852 --> 01:32:24,434 early flights. AF3ZW3GMS. 703 01:32:28,504 --> 01:32:36,175 Cool, Joe. Very interesting. So this was processing the audio before it went into the transmitter, 704 01:32:36,175 --> 01:32:42,262 I assume. That's correct, it was used at headquarters. 705 01:32:45,838 --> 01:32:49,812 were talking and that was used there. I don't know whether it was used... 706 01:32:52,942 --> 01:32:59,142 in the spacecraft or not, but I know it was used at mission control. That's what I was 707 01:32:59,142 --> 01:33:04,062 trying to think of because it's a 19-inch rack mount unit. Although, you know, maybe they 708 01:33:04,062 --> 01:33:12,402 had 19-inch rack mount gear on some of the spaceships. But yeah, that's what it was used. So the audio 709 01:33:12,402 --> 01:33:17,342 went through that before it went to the transmitter to give it enhanced intelligibility, and it 710 01:33:17,342 --> 01:33:18,354 was all analog. Go ahead. 711 01:33:22,604 --> 01:33:27,651 Very interesting. Who knows what's tucked away in your basement there on the way to the 712 01:33:27,651 --> 01:33:32,968 museum. All right, thank you, Joe. We have pulled you in a lot tonight. We might get an 713 01:33:32,968 --> 01:33:39,657 award for that. All right. One more time. Any other comments out there? This is AF3Z. 714 01:33:54,222 --> 01:34:01,422 Well, before we close down here, just appreciate everybody checking in. And a big thank you 715 01:34:01,422 --> 01:34:07,162 to Joe for making the repeater here available for us for the workbench. And you're very welcome 716 01:34:07,162 --> 01:34:12,462 to stay on, keep on, get on here often. It's great way to show that we really do appreciate 717 01:34:12,462 --> 01:34:14,962 the gift of this repeater to the amateur community. 718 01:34:18,712 --> 01:34:24,029 We hope to hear you again on Thursday evening at 8 for the 985 round table. So this is it 719 01:34:24,029 --> 01:34:32,461 for the workbench tonight. Have a good night. Great week ahead. 73 and keep pounding that 720 01:34:32,461 --> 01:34:36,246 brass. This is AF3Z. Good night. 721 01:34:45,966 --> 01:34:52,388 Stellar job Jim, you really rounded them out and got them out of the woodwork tonight. W3GMS, 722 01:34:52,388 --> 01:34:52,810 portable. 723 01:34:56,078 --> 01:35:02,902 Thank you Joe, you gotta watch that woodwork. I was out spraying for bugs here today. A 724 01:35:02,902 --> 01:35:09,177 number of years ago, we got an invasion of earwigs. And I mean, I was using a vacuum cleaner to 725 01:35:09,177 --> 01:35:15,182 try to get them as they were coming in the house. It was crazy. Since then, I spray a little 726 01:35:15,182 --> 01:35:22,554 around some key spots and they only come in in ones and twos. 233, Joe, AF36. 727 01:35:25,976 --> 01:35:33,256 Well, I can tell you Martha does not like earwigs. We've had years, especially when we had the 728 01:35:33,256 --> 01:35:37,660 swimming pool, in-ground pool, I think it was because all the water out there and the moisture. 729 01:35:37,660 --> 01:35:44,225 Man, we would have airwakes. They would get into the acrylic towel bars and they'd run 730 01:35:44,225 --> 01:35:50,811 back and forth. you know, me being an old country bumpkin never really bothered me that much. 731 01:35:50,811 --> 01:35:56,856 They were just having fun, but it's not like airwakes. I think we've maybe seen five or 732 01:35:56,856 --> 01:36:05,633 six this year so far. Is that accurate? But more than that, you wager a guess? She says 733 01:36:05,633 --> 01:36:18,415 she's seen 25 this year. Were they all in sight? She says yes. So anyway, we have more than 734 01:36:18,415 --> 01:36:21,900 we had last year, that's for sure. W3GMS. 735 01:36:25,998 --> 01:36:31,418 Hello Martha, good to hear you there. I'm not crazy about them either. They're sort of strange 736 01:36:31,418 --> 01:36:37,858 little bugs, that one year it was crazy and I don't know what happened or why. We had lived 737 01:36:37,858 --> 01:36:45,738 here a number of years before that. yeah, they are interesting critters. I see them most often 738 01:36:45,738 --> 01:36:51,078 like in the kitchen around the sink and in the bathroom, like around the tub. I'm not sure 739 01:36:51,078 --> 01:36:55,538 what the plumbing or whatever has to do with it, if anything. I see them a few other places. 740 01:36:56,532 --> 01:37:02,067 Usually maybe one or two or three a day. But it was at night and if had the lights on, 741 01:37:02,067 --> 01:37:07,211 they seemed to come rushing in to get into the light. Oh yeah, that was a mess that year. 742 01:37:07,211 --> 01:37:16,929 So I have faithfully sprayed some kind of fairly harmless spray, but it seems to keep 743 01:37:16,929 --> 01:37:23,405 them down to a minimum. All right, good night to both of you. Good to talk to you. I've 744 01:37:23,405 --> 01:37:28,422 got my early morning. dishwashing to do and a couple things to get done before I hit the 745 01:37:28,422 --> 01:37:39,262 sack. So good to hear you. Thanks very much 73 and AF3Z over and out. That way I'm in. 746 01:37:41,582 --> 01:37:44,274 Yeah, we both have to get up at 6 a.m. 747 01:37:51,672 --> 01:37:52,146 get a down. 748 01:37:55,960 --> 01:38:02,806 get by with seven. A lot of nights I have six, sometimes five hours and five hours is really 749 01:38:02,806 --> 01:38:17,118 not enough. So there you go. Maybe we need to start an ear wake net on 9-8-5. And we can 750 01:38:17,118 --> 01:38:23,794 have Martha's the net control station of the ear wake net. 7-3-8-W-3-G-M-S clear. 751 01:38:27,054 --> 01:38:31,967 That's a good suggestion. And the funny thing that ran through my mind when you said that 752 01:38:31,967 --> 01:38:39,000 is you hear schools, football teams and stuff named after all kinds of stuff. Imagine your 753 01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:49,946 school. I can't even say it. The Arcelton E-Wigs are taking the field. Good night, AFCZ. 754 01:38:54,286 --> 01:38:59,592 Yeah, probably a good time to sign. But you're right, they have all kinds of crazy names. 755 01:39:00,153 --> 01:39:04,178 But I am tardy on handing them a time. 756 01:39:13,330 --> 01:39:21,090 I've just been incredibly, incredibly busy, but it'll happen. So all the YLs out there, 757 01:39:21,410 --> 01:39:27,450 be patient. It's in the works. 73, sleep well. W3GMS, now clear.