{ "version": "1.0.0", "segments": [ { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1.4399999", "endTime": "7.2799997", "body": "Hello. Welcome back to the Woo Woo Channeling Crew. I'm Missy." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "7.2799997", "endTime": "8.559999", "body": "And I'm Denise." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "8.96", "endTime": "11.759999", "body": "And we are really glad that you're with us today." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "12.595", "endTime": "19.875", "body": "We really wanted to start off by thanking you guys for all the amazing feedback we've been receiving about the podcast." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "20.035", "endTime": "20.755001", "body": "Yes." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "20.755001", "endTime": "31.48", "body": "And the follows, the shares, everything, because it's letting us know what you like, what you don't like. We're learning as we go. We're growing as we go." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "31.64", "endTime": "32.28", "body": "That's right." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "32.28", "endTime": "51.365", "body": "So we really appreciate the feedback. Please keep it coming whether you contact one of us personally or you make the comment on the actual podcast page, whether you're listening through Spotify, Apple, Amazon, or any of the other platforms, we just want to let you know that we hear you and we value what you say." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "52.1", "endTime": "52.42", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "52.42", "endTime": "59.14", "body": "And we're taking that into consideration. And today, we don't really have a topic." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "59.539997", "endTime": "73.635", "body": "We decided not to have a topic today. Last week, I said, look out. We've got a a a special guest coming on. Well, psych, not this week. She's gonna come on on March 18, and we'll talk a little bit about that." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "73.635", "endTime": "96.409996", "body": "But, we wanna we wanna change it up a little bit. And the one feedback that we've gotten is that you guys really like our personal stories. You like listening to our journey, what it's like to be a medium and a psychic and be a normal person. So we were really excited about that because we thought what we might be doing too much with that. The crystals was very technical." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "96.409996", "endTime": "112.965", "body": "Missy brought up a really good point. She said, you know, we were talking a lot about things that people could easily Google, right? But we got to also incorporate our own unique experiences. And so, and we hope that that's what you took away from it." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "113.92", "endTime": "137.23502", "body": "And I think it's important for you guys to continue to get to know us because as much as we carry the title of a psychic, a medium, we're also just two normal women. We joke that we to each other, we call each other big booty psychics." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "137.955", "endTime": "138.275", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "138.275", "endTime": "166.335", "body": "But we actually love this platform that we have to share who we are and what we do. There's a lot of things personally that we do that normalizes us. We don't always wear the psychic hat 24 hours a day, even though the gifts are always available to us. Right. And I don't know if many of you know this, but Denise is exceptionally talented." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "166.655", "endTime": "167.13501", "body": "Oh boy." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "167.13501", "endTime": "185.485", "body": "She has this amazing voice. She's been a performer, on some pretty big stages. And we joked not too long ago that it would be really cool if Denise sang a reading." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "185.56499", "endTime": "194.44499", "body": "Yeah. So Missy's crazy. Right? So let's talk about how crazy Missy is. So I just got back from a funeral, and so my daughter and I, we sang." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "194.44499", "endTime": "225.395", "body": "We didn't sing together two separate songs. I sent Missy a clip of, you know, my daughter singing and me singing. But yes, it does humanize us that people can see that we do other things besides, you know, be psychic intuitive. And so when I sent her the song that I sang, Missy replied, girl, if I had this voice, I would be singing my reading. I laughed so hard, so I sent her this little snippet, like, I don't I don't even remember what I sang." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "225.395", "endTime": "229.89", "body": "I said something like, your mother is coming through." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "231.56999", "endTime": "235.17", "body": "Oh. We were just like mean," }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "235.17", "endTime": "239.41", "body": "That gives me chills. Do you people do you hear that? I mean, bad." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "239.885", "endTime": "255.48499", "body": "But I'm joking. But what I think is hilarious, I'm just like, if a client heard that, like, what in the charlatan is going on here? Like like, talk about trying to do something different. It's just little things like that. Like, Missy and I, we crack up talking to each other." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "256.26", "endTime": "263.22", "body": "And I feel so blessed that she and I have this really down to earth bond. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "263.38", "endTime": "263.78", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "263.78", "endTime": "279.665", "body": "And so, yeah, we don't wanna look like we're crazy, but we have a lot of talents outside of what we do. And, I think you guys, as you listen more and as we create more episodes, you'll start to hear that and see that." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "279.665", "endTime": "308.845", "body": "Missy shared a story with me today that blew me away just about her life. And it's nothing she really wants to share because family listens to the podcast. But it's like every day, not every day, I'm being dramatic, but every once in a while, I will learn something so new about her and that's how we want the audience to see us. Like, I want you guys to learn something new every week about us. Big, small, psychic, normal, whatever." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "309.32498", "endTime": "309.885", "body": "Right?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "310.125", "endTime": "331.385", "body": "No. And I think that sometimes, you know, I'm not always a psychic 24/7 , even though, yes, that is what I do. And Denise is not a psychic 24/7 even though that is what she does. When we get some downtime, we have other interests." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "331.785", "endTime": "338.58502", "body": "I love to read. I think in 2025, I read over 60 books." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "338.665", "endTime": "339.465", "body": "Wow." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "339.785", "endTime": "363.035", "body": "Or listened and or read 60 books, and they are an escape from what I do every day. So I read mystery, murder. I don't read romance books. I don't know why it's not anything I've ever been interested in, but I like the murder mystery, drama, thrillers, suspense, that kind of that kind of thing." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "363.195", "endTime": "372.395", "body": "I couldn't take the romance seriously when Fabio came out. You remember when Fabio was, like, on every cover of Every cover. I'm aging myself." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "372.69", "endTime": "380.05", "body": "And wasn't he doing the I can't believe it's not butter commercials? I mean, seriously, that's that's low." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "380.45", "endTime": "380.85", "body": "I'm right." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "380.85", "endTime": "386.45", "body": "That's really that must have been the beginning of his career when he was taking what he could get." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "386.85498", "endTime": "390.375", "body": "Yeah. I felt like that was the beginning of the end for him. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "391.01498", "endTime": "393.73502", "body": "Where is he now? Is he still around?" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "394.055", "endTime": "400.375", "body": "I know. Good question. Might have to Google him later and see if he still has that beautiful head of hair still." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "400.61", "endTime": "422.045", "body": "Oh yeah. He did have some nice hair. I can't say that it persuaded me to try butter or I can't believe it's not butter or buy a romance novel. I've just never been interested in that. I very rarely spend my time reading spiritual stuff." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "422.045", "endTime": "450.025", "body": "That doesn't mean I haven't, but I feel like that's the break I need from always doing the spiritual to just the escape. Read every single night before bed. That's something that I really enjoy. I'm reading a great book right now. It's the fourth in a series by CJ Box, and it's called Trophy Hunt, and it's about a game warden by the name of Joe Pickett." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "450.025", "endTime": "453.41", "body": "Anybody who's interested, those are some really good books." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "453.41", "endTime": "470.065", "body": "I'm glad that you brought up the type of books that you read. I've been addicted to YouTube lately, and I will watch a lot of real ghost interactions. And I've had people say, oh, doesn't that lower your energy? I'm like, no. If anything, it makes me very curious." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "470.465", "endTime": "471.02502", "body": "Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "471.185", "endTime": "484.62", "body": "And I've been watching a lot of that. Paranormal caught on camera, I think, travel channel. Although I am so over these subscriptions. Like I have travel Discovery Plus and it gives me travel channel." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "484.78", "endTime": "506.015", "body": "And then I realized HBO Max, they have travel channel. So I'm doubling, like I'm so unbelievably confused and frustrated and I'm spending way too much money duplicating channels. But yeah, that's been my thing. And when I went to Jamaica the other day, it was so nice. I did have WiFi, but I was so distracted by so many healthy things." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "506.015", "endTime": "515.27", "body": "It just felt good. Like I found myself outside a lot. It felt nice not to do readings for a while. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "515.27", "endTime": "515.83", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "515.99", "endTime": "539.445", "body": "We've been, especially you, Missy, you have really been nonstop and we don't realize the burnout until we can't remember what we did two hours ago. It was a nice breath of fresh air. I think I only worked one day. I was there for seven days and I worked one day, I dedicated one day." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "539.76", "endTime": "540.24", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "540.24", "endTime": "547.28", "body": "And that was a great balance for me. It was a really great balance and it felt good and I needed the break." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "548.16003", "endTime": "569.43005", "body": "And you have been really good about always reminding me you need to refresh. You need to hit kind of the reset button. Are you giving yourself a break? You'll sometimes say that to me because I can go, go, go, go, go. I think in a five day period, I probably did, I don't know, 35, 40 readings." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "570.07", "endTime": "614.565", "body": "And if you do the math, okay, that's seven a day, eight a day, but it is a lot. I think that's something that maybe the general audience doesn't understand is the energy output as well as the energy input that we go through. And we talked about this earlier. Maybe this is a good segue into kind of energy input about energy vampires and how they can create like, they they pull instead of reciprocate. And so it's super important to understand why protection for us going into a reading, why we have to have that." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "614.805", "endTime": "615.445", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "616.085", "endTime": "629.02997", "body": "Yeah. And, and they're everywhere. Right? They don't sleep in coffins. Could be your boss, your coworker, a family member, your spouse." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "629.26996", "endTime": "653.4", "body": "Right? I remember having a reading with a client and she said to me, I don't think this is gonna work out with my boyfriend. And I said, okay, well tell me why. And she paused, had to think about it, and she said, well, whenever he comes over, my energy's drained. And I was like, woah, that's a huge sign, right?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "653.4", "endTime": "653.8", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "653.8", "endTime": "670.095", "body": "I mean, literally defined exactly why she's gotta get out of this. Like no one that you love and care for and are talking about marriage with should ever drain you. They walk into your house and the life is sucked out of you." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "670.975", "endTime": "695.55", "body": "Yeah. And I think too, the difficulty that we sometimes run into, especially when we're doing readings, is that there can be a feeling of obligating, or you feel obligated to soothe them or fix it or carry their emotional load. That can be difficult in a reading. How do you just get up in the middle of a reading and say, Look, I can't take this anymore. You're on your own." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "695.55", "endTime": "698.40497", "body": "I'm out of here. You know? That's hard." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "698.725", "endTime": "703.765", "body": "A client who I think you mentioned earlier, the one that just wants to hear themself speak." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "704.485", "endTime": "730.835", "body": "All the time. I had one the other day, and she came in and she says, Well, let me tell you what's going on. And so, let her talk and kind of tell her story. Then the moment I began the reading portion and allowing the information and the messages to flow from spirit, she would talk right over me. And so I just, for the most part, she talked at me for forty five minutes." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "730.995", "endTime": "746.14", "body": "And it's very hard to get a word in edgewise. Now that's not to say that I'm not listening because I realized in that moment that perhaps what Spirit needed me to do was to just hold a safe container for her." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "746.54004", "endTime": "746.62006", "body": "Right?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "746.62006", "endTime": "760.505", "body": "And that's okay. I can be there for that, but I also want to be able to honor spirit in providing the guidance, but that was very draining for me." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "760.745", "endTime": "761.465", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "761.865", "endTime": "776.33", "body": "It's very much like stepping on the gas pedal, stepping on the brakes, stepping on the gas pedal, stepping on the brake. It's like I couldn't feel into the momentum or the flow of the reading because it was very stop, start, stop, start, stop, start, and anytime I started, I had to stop." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "776.935", "endTime": "794.38", "body": "Yeah. And it it's hard too because sometimes it can feel like a therapeutic session for them. And this is for those of you who have read with me, you know that I never want the client to speak first. I always say, I want Spirit to tell you what you need to hear versus what you want to hear. This is why I love to pull the cards." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "794.38", "endTime": "837.995", "body": "Like it kind of tells me a story. And I've literally had clients dispute what I'm saying. I'll give you an example. They'll show me a marriage. And I'll say, there's some deception here with your husband. I think it's very important that you guys have a talk. And she spent ten minutes convincing me that her marriage was amazing and that she had nothing to worry about. It was a back and forth and a back and forth. And you want it we want to be gentle, right? I don't wanna say, listen, lady, your husband's got like three mistresses. You're delusional. You've gotta figure this out. What do we do with someone who really doesn't wanna hear? After a while, I just gave up. Like I gave up and I just let her talk." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "838.075", "endTime": "860.44", "body": "That's yeah. And that's the other part of an energy vampire is that they resist taking responsibility. Right? So I don't want people to think that an energy vampire is just somebody that comes and steals your energy, but there are different ways. They can rely on others to regulate their emotions, but what I started to say is they resist taking responsibility." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "860.44", "endTime": "884.5", "body": "Everything is everyone else's fault, and they want support, not solutions. So there isn't this willingness to really be open and to receive. So that's the control sometimes that people often exert when they come into a reading. I want people to feel heard. I want people to feel understood." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "884.5", "endTime": "914.07", "body": "Again, I want to hold that safe space for them to be who they are. But at the same point, I think it's important if you've ever wanted to do a reading or have had a reading, it's so important that there's a reciprocation that I give, you receive, you're giving back, I'm receiving. And there's a nice energetic flow. There's an ebb and a flow, you know, to a reading in, you know, that that's where it feels comfortable for me." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "914.79", "endTime": "917.58997", "body": "Yeah. You need to listen. I want people to listen." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "917.58997", "endTime": "917.83", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "918.315", "endTime": "931.675", "body": "Right. A lot of times when you say, well, the giving and the receiving doesn't feel equal. So I'm going to step away from this. Yeah. We can't really step away from it. And so we become a pacifier, a nurturer and a truth teller." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "932.47003", "endTime": "965.22", "body": "So if they wanna go on a rant that they believe that all is well, I'm I'm touching on relationships because it just just happens to be most recent. But Spirit started off the entire session focusing on the marriage, and then they said, well, the marriage fine. And I finally had to stop her and say, no, it's not. I did my best to be gentle in saying but I said, nope, we can't move on because your guide says this is top priority. If we can't fix this, all the other things that you wanna talk about today can't be fixed." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "965.86", "endTime": "966.25995", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "966.25995", "endTime": "968.18", "body": "That was very specific." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "968.5", "endTime": "983.435", "body": "And that's difficult sometimes. I had a reading recently. She she came there with her boyfriend, and, I read for her first, and she said, oh, my boyfriend's gonna be coming in with you next." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "983.91504", "endTime": "1003.635", "body": "And I said, okay. So as I was talking to her, I man, I I was I felt like I was pulled, like in two different directions. Like I didn't know what kind of decision to make. And I asked her, I understand that, you know, you're here with your boyfriend. I said, but I am feeling pulled, like in two different two different directions." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1003.635", "endTime": "1020.89", "body": "So my energy feels very spread out. And I said, It feels a little uncomfortable to me. Like you've put yourself in a very precarious situation. Can you tell me a little bit more about why I would be feeling that way? She says, Yeah, I've been seeing another guy on the side for two years." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1020.89", "endTime": "1042.1049", "body": "And I was like, Oh, this explains it. And I thought, Oh man, I've got to read for the boyfriend next? Oh my God, what am I going to do now that I've been armed with the information that she's been cheating on him for two years? And I remember saying to Spirit, Does he know? And Spirit said, Yes." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1042.6649", "endTime": "1055.59", "body": "And so I said to her, I said, Does he know? And she goes, No, he has no idea. And I go, Yes, he does. Yes, he does. And I said, You're holding two hearts in your hand." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1055.59", "endTime": "1071.8049", "body": "You've got his heart and somebody else's. I said, I think I get it. You'd like to take the best of one and put it with the best of other to create the ultimate man. And I said, But it may not be about them. It may be about what's missing in you." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1072.0449", "endTime": "1102.6349", "body": "So let's talk about why you have this need to kind of spread yourself thin. You know? So that's those are so difficult to do. Those readings are so difficult for me because I want to be honest. I don't filter. I don't candy coat. Don't change what spirit says. I'm coming forward to give you what, again, what you need to hear, not what you want to hear. But then you've put me in a position where now I gotta read for the boyfriend and I'm carrying this knowledge." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1102.635", "endTime": "1104.7949", "body": "And so the boyfriend comes in and then what happens?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1105.2101", "endTime": "1123.5349", "body": "Well, thankfully, thankfully I walked outside. He was sitting outside and I said, Are you ready? And he goes, I don't think I'm ready for this. He goes, I've never had a reading done before and I'm really quite nervous. Would you mind if I didn't have a reading done today?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1123.5349", "endTime": "1135.615", "body": "And I said, No, not at all. I don't want you to feel that you're forced to do anything. Thank you for your honesty and basically have a nice day. I got up to my room at the Center for the New Age and I said, Thank you, Spirit." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1136.1799", "endTime": "1136.74", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1136.74", "endTime": "1148.4199", "body": "Because I feel like there was a reason why I probably was not meant to read for him. And I just maybe there was also something he knew that he didn't wanna reveal to me." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1148.66", "endTime": "1149.78", "body": "He didn't want the truth." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1150.215", "endTime": "1151.575", "body": "I think so." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1151.575", "endTime": "1164.0549", "body": "Yeah. Yeah. He didn't. Have you ever had a situation I mean, I know you've had the kind of the marriage and the mistress, but where you're reading for a husband and a wife or a boyfriend and a girlfriend. Oh, Have you have you been caught in that?" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1164.4", "endTime": "1191.415", "body": "I've actually lost a client because of that. Okay. When our husband came on board and we started to do group sessions, because I'm also a spiritual coach, didn't like when I offended defended him. And it created a rift. And I mentioned this to you earlier today that we need to do an episode on a client who need a therapist instead of a psychic." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1191.9199", "endTime": "1220.5651", "body": "Think that's gonna be a great episode. But something about the catching off guard, I remember doing a reading for a client at, a center in, Jupiter and the woman came in and she was so upset and she said, my husband's having an affair with this woman and I wanna fight for my marriage. And I said to her, and I always say this in my readings, give me the first name, first name only. I don't need the middle name and Esquire and all that other. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1221.0499", "endTime": "1231.61", "body": "And she said the full name. Yeah. And I realized that I knew the person that was sleeping with her husband." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1231.85", "endTime": "1232.49", "body": "Oh, wow." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1233.465", "endTime": "1252.9501", "body": "And it was my daughter's friend's mother. And I remember putting my head down and saying, Spirit, please, because I'm pretty transparent on my face. I don't kind of sugarcoat when it comes to facial. And so I put my head down and I remember saying, Jesus, take the wheel. Keep my face straight." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1252.9501", "endTime": "1264.405", "body": "Let me be a like, remember specifically saying, let me be as professional as I can as I do this reading. And it was hard." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1264.9651", "endTime": "1269.525", "body": "It was hard. and the good news, she wanted to fight for her husband and she got her husband back. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1269.525", "endTime": "1270.405", "body": "Oh, good. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1270.405", "endTime": "1294.505", "body": "Then what happens after that? Now my daughter's going to play dates with the mom and the mom's coming to me and telling me stuff about her husband and her marriage and how and I've got all this information behind me. So now I've gotta be the professional outside of my work because And of this was just a perfect example of why I just just give me the first name. Jim, Bob, Margaret, Missy, Denise." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1294.505", "endTime": "1295.225", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1295.385", "endTime": "1307.7999", "body": "Don't give me middle names and and last names. But, yeah, it's one of those moments where I thought, my god, what do I do here? And spirit says, Denise, they're not paying you for your opinion. They're paying for ours." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1307.96", "endTime": "1308.6799", "body": "Right." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1309.16", "endTime": "1329.855", "body": "Right? I can't tell you how many times I've been in a reading with a client and of course not a new client, but if I've been with a client for years, I'll say to them, if we were having drinks right now or we're having dinner at a bar, this would be my opinion. But you're not calling me for my opinion. Because sometimes they'll say, well, what do you think? And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1329.855", "endTime": "1339.0399", "body": "Can't worry about what I think. You gotta listen to what Spirit is saying. Cause there are times Missy, and I'm sure you felt this too, where Spirit will give advice and in my head I'm like, really?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1339.36", "endTime": "1340.08", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1340.08", "endTime": "1361.9598", "body": "A client whose boyfriend is such a POS and spirit will say, Nope, hang in there. And in my head, I'm like, What? You really want her to hold onto this? And then sure enough, they'll show me that they fix it, they heal, And figure it that's a struggle for us also. Right? Would you agree?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1362.0399", "endTime": "1385.5249", "body": "Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And I think we talked about this in a previous episode where I said that you have to hold neutrality. Right? You can't try to force a certain outcome because they're telling you, This is my experience, or This is my relationship, and this is what's happening, and you're like, Oh, if it walks like a duck, then it's probably a duck, so here's what I would do." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1385.6599", "endTime": "1411.585", "body": "You can't be that way. You have to hold that neutrality, and this is again where the ego has to step aside, where I would be like, Girl, walk away. Your life is in a revolving door. They don't get to come and go as they please. Nope. Nope. Block them, delete them, do this, or block her, delete her. I can't say that. Missy cannot get involved in the reading. As you said, they're not coming to Missy." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1411.585", "endTime": "1438.385", "body": "They're coming to the psychic or they're coming to the medium that's asking for the guidance from something that's higher outside of me. So I'm the deliverer. Would say to people, sometimes I don't even know what I'm even saying. I'll say something like, Oh, hey, I just want you to understand that the guidance is really coming from spirit. And even though I'm the deliverer, I'm the conduit, or I'm the vessel, just please understand where it's coming from." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1438.385", "endTime": "1457.955", "body": "It's so hard sometimes to keep, Here's how I would have handled it, or, let me take off my psychic hat for a moment. Let me put the Missy hat on. This is what I would do. We don't have that choice, to do that. And that's where it's very, very hard to remain neutral at all times during a reading." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1458.035", "endTime": "1484.105", "body": "And even if a client says to me, Denise, I just can't believe spirit has taught me to sit in this. And I will, you know, say things like, I don't know what this person, your sister, your brother could do or say to make this right, but spirit is saying you've got to trust. Like that's kind of the comfort I can give them because we've had plenty of readings where people are like, I'm done. I'm done with this person. I'm sick of this." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1484.105", "endTime": "1503.8301", "body": "Or, you know, my boss can kick rocks and Spirit's like, you can't quit. Yeah. I know it doesn't make sense. I know it looks like the writing is on the wall, but Spirit says, you've gotta trust us right now. And then we've gotta be that comforter, that provider, and give them the confidence that yeah, you really have to trust right now." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1503.8301", "endTime": "1524.045", "body": "I remember before I started this work, I used to say once a cheater, always a cheater. I no longer believe that, right? I've seen cheaters transform into wonderful people and great, you know, husbands and great wives. They had a hiccup, but they are never gonna have a hiccup again. And so I think that we are tested in many ways." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1524.38", "endTime": "1543.955", "body": "And I think this is why it's so hard when people who wanna do this work, they get a little hesitant. I've had people say in my classes, but I sometimes feel like this is my opinion. Okay, well now we have to figure out how do you decipher between that. What's my opinion and what's not? That's the work and that's with practice and that takes time." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1543.955", "endTime": "1548.275", "body": "I'm sure that my readings fourteen years ago are nowhere near my readings today." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1549.89", "endTime": "1587.35", "body": "Yeah, exactly And I feel the same way. When I look back at the first couple of readings I ever did to where I am now, the growth that I've experienced, you probably can hear that as well in terms of just in confidence alone, right? Trusting what you hear, trusting what you see or the inner knowing or the feelings, you know, that you get about things and not second guessing that. I think that for me was a big lesson of trust what you hear, trust what you feel. There's a lot of trust that goes into working with the different gifts that you use when you're in a reading." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1587.35", "endTime": "1611.4099", "body": "As I've talked about in other episodes, I'm very heavy with mediumship. That's kind of my bread and butter. And sometimes I don't even know what I'm saying. Use an example the other day. I was talking to a young woman and I said, so, you know, I just want you to understand that if it is aligned, I will make the connection for you for any family members, pets, or friends that step forward." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1611.73", "endTime": "1623.695", "body": "If it's aligned, I'll make that connection for you. I go, Like, If your grandmother who passed away in October steps forward for you, I'll make the connection. She goes, Okay. You're freaking me out right now because my grandmother passed away in October. And I was like, Oh, okay." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1624.015", "endTime": "1639.7799", "body": "You know? And I think I'm just throwing it out there to use it as an example, but it's like in my mind, heard, you know, I heard October. I heard grandmother. I guess that's why I chose to say it. I feel like sometimes I have so little control." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1640.82", "endTime": "1661.4551", "body": "And that can be scary for me sometimes it it can. I got to admit that maybe not having control over what I'm seeing, what I'm hearing. Sometimes the messages come in so fast for me that I have to say to spirit, can you please slow it down? I feel like I'm missing things. Please slow it down. You Know?" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1662.37", "endTime": "1663.4099", "body": "But it's Okay to miss" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1664.21", "endTime": "1676.13", "body": "You gotta be okay with missing. You're gonna miss a lot. You're gonna miss a lot. I had a client say to me, we do weekly coaching and she said, remember when you said this to me last week? It came true." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1676.13", "endTime": "1681.945", "body": "And I'm like, no, I don't. And she's like, but we talked about it last week. I'm like, yeah, I know. Right? Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1682.345", "endTime": "1694.2399", "body": "Know we talked about it last week. I don't remember. I call them the coincidences of spirit. Right? So a client was talking about her thyroid and I don't just out of nowhere, I heard iodine." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1694.24", "endTime": "1716.015", "body": "I'm allergic to iodine. So iodine would never be on my radar. And then she said that's funny because yesterday I went to a holistic guy and I'm gonna do red light iodine treatments. So do you see how it was just spirit validating to her that you're on the right path? And it just randomly came out of my mouth and know, like you said, spirit, can you slow down spirits?" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1716.015", "endTime": "1717.855", "body": "No, we're not time to slow down. Right." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1718.07", "endTime": "1723.0299", "body": "Sorry. We we only had a fifteen minute reading, so we don't have time." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1723.2699", "endTime": "1731.99", "body": "Well, like, Missy, you've got 11 readings today. We're not slowing down. We're like, not even in April because we're saying things like Clorox, Amethyst. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1734.245", "endTime": "1737.6049", "body": "Things just pop up and then they just kind of just blur." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1738.325", "endTime": "1771.035", "body": "Yeah. And I think it's interesting too that I don't always hear complete sentences and you and I have talked about this. If clairaudient, and that's the clear hearing, has kicked in for me, I don't hear, Hi, my name is Jo, and I'm stepping forward for my daughter that you have sitting in front of you. I had my favorite pair of Converse sneakers that I would always wear and I would wear my ball cap on backwards. That is not the way messages come through. Not for me." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1771.1951", "endTime": "1774.0751", "body": "Yeah, me I don't think for you either." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1774.0751", "endTime": "1786.0499", "body": "What I might hear is Converse. Okay. Are they talking about they want to converse and have a conversation or are they having converse? And then sometimes I get the image behind it." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1786.0499", "endTime": "1815.99", "body": "I'm like, okay, converse sneakers, and I'm able to put it together. So I always feel like doing a reading is very much like an interpretive art, right? You've got to try to connect the dots of the one word things that you're hearing with the image that is coming through, with the feeling that and then the knowing. So everything kind of works together to create these beautiful messages and validation and affirmation that that you hear. Would you agree with that?" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1816.2301", "endTime": "1818.31", "body": "Yeah. I call it psychic charades." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1818.8351", "endTime": "1819.3151", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1819.3151", "endTime": "1825.075", "body": "And and I will even tell a client, I think, was it yesterday? It was either yesterday or Monday." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1825.395", "endTime": "1838.6799", "body": "I was, like, trying to put the pieces together and and she was like, that doesn't that doesn't resonate. And I was like, okay, give me a second. And then I had to say, okay, what are you showing me? And then I just started writing things down. And then I said three words and she's like, oh, I get it now." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1839.0", "endTime": "1849.6549", "body": "Right? And those three words, of course, didn't make sense to me, but putting them together made total sense to her. Right? And so it's a surrendering that we have to have" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1849.815", "endTime": "1850.215", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1852.2949", "endTime": "1875.71", "body": "and You know, it's interesting too, is that while we're in the reading or conducting the reading, we're also having conversations with spirit in our minds. I'm seeing the vision and I'm like, Okay, I got to remember that. And now I'm getting this feeling behind it. Okay, how am I going to put this together? Spirit will start to put it together." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1875.71", "endTime": "1897.4", "body": "Like you say, it's like playing charade. Show you one thing, put it with the next thing. But I always have so much going on when I'm doing a reading. I'm seeing, I'm explaining what I'm being shown. And while I'm doing that, I'm hearing the words and then I'm asking spirit different questions and, okay, can you give me more detail behind that?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1897.4", "endTime": "1899.72", "body": "Or what did you mean when you said this? Right?" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1899.96", "endTime": "1911.4349", "body": "What really opened the door for me? And I think we talked about this in the podcast, but I think it got I I edited it out. It was Potter reference. By the way, guys, we edit a lot. I mean Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1912.075", "endTime": "1935.705", "body": "Yeah. Podcasts would be, like, two hours long. But when I took my daughter to go see Harry Potter and it was the movie when Dumbledore crossed over and Harry was knocked out, think maybe it was the goblet of fire and he goes to heaven and Dumbledore is showing him and teaching him and giving him wisdom. And at the end Harry says, Dumbledore, is this all in my head? And he says, yes, Harry, it is." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1936.025", "endTime": "1939.225", "body": "But just because it's all in your head doesn't mean it's not real." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "1939.945", "endTime": "1940.585", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1940.585", "endTime": "1948.0399", "body": "Remember in the movie theater with my daughter, I went, Oh. And she went, Be quiet. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1948.68", "endTime": "1966.645", "body": "She's so bossy. She's even back then she was bossy. That one quote, Missy, look, have goosebumps even talking about it. Yeah. One quote gave me the utmost confidence moving forward in my readings, because that was something that was restricting me in my work." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1967.045", "endTime": "1981.39", "body": "Like I'm hearing this and I'm seeing this. Should I say this out loud? And then the client would say it and I'm like, I heard that, but I didn't say it. But now I can't say it after she said it because now it's gonna look like I'm just making it up as I go along. Right." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1981.39", "endTime": "1999.455", "body": "Hearing that just because it's in my head doesn't mean it's not real. Just say it. Even if it sounds crazy. And I always tell clients in a reading if something if I say something that doesn't quite make sense, or doesn't resonate in the moment, put an Asterick next to it. Because I guarantee you it's going to make sense down the line." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "1999.65", "endTime": "2011.57", "body": "There was a time where I couldn't say, I guarantee it's going to make sense. I know it's going to make sense because why am I thinking about iodine? Yeah. I don't, I'm not a doctor. I don't know what they do for, thyroids." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2011.5701", "endTime": "2024.535", "body": "Right? Why would I bring that up? So I totally get it. It's psychic charades. So as you are sitting in front of us, we're playing it really cool. We may look calm, but there's a whole lot going on inside of us." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2026.45", "endTime": "2032.13", "body": "Like a typical woman who's got 50 conversations going on in her head while she's talking to somebody." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2032.13", "endTime": "2034.0499", "body": "There you go. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2034.2899", "endTime": "2040.85", "body": "Yeah. We're critiquing your clothes. We're looking at your shoes and your nails and your No, I'm just kidding. We're not doing that. We're not doing that." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2041.085", "endTime": "2078.145", "body": "Right. That's the last thing. As a matter of fact, I find myself, the more that you and I are recording that when you're speaking, I find myself even on the video recordings that I'm I kinda drift off. Like, I I start looking to the left as you're talking or I'm looking down to the right, like my mind, it's been such a great lesson because I'm like, is this what clients see when they're sitting in front of me? I'm listening to you and I'm listening to spirit and I might be listening to a loved one trying to come through and we are trying to master this thing and make it as seamless as possible so that you get the beautiful message that's being relayed." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2078.145", "endTime": "2102.655", "body": "Yeah. I often will say, for anyone who's never done a reading with me, I warn them. I just say, I just want you to know, I look around the room a lot. It doesn't mean that I don't want to look at your lovely face or hold my attention with your eyes. It's just that I'm getting so much thrown at me at one time that looking away is my way of focusing." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2102.895", "endTime": "2124.13", "body": "Oh, I'm hearing that. So if you think about the example I always use is think about when you're laying in bed at night and it's dark and you hear a noise. You don't go to listen with your ear. You go to listen with your eyes and your eyes kind of go back and forth like, Oh, what was that that I just heard? That's kind of like how it is for me in a reading." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2124.13", "endTime": "2128.29", "body": "It's, Oh, wait, what did I just hear? And I sort of focus with my eyes." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2128.665", "endTime": "2130.665", "body": "Yeah, I love that disclaimer." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2130.665", "endTime": "2147.5103", "body": "I don't want you to think that this woman's off her rocker, that she wouldn't look at me at all. She's looking all around the room. But while I'm sharing messages with you, I'm focusing on what I'm hearing. I'm focusing on what I'm feeling. I'm focusing on what I know and I'm focusing on what I'm being shown." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2147.59", "endTime": "2184.23", "body": "And then it's up to me to, with Spirit's help, to bring that message through in a very clear way so that you can understand it. So I don't want anyone who ever sits with me to feel that I don't want to look at them, but it is that I have to almost pull away from looking at them to go, Oh, that's what I'm seeing. Oh, that's what I'm hearing. You know, when I first started doing readings, I was so excited about the gifts. I was so excited that I was, I could finally do something other than the corporate world that I was afraid to be wrong." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2184.455", "endTime": "2200.82", "body": "I have to I admit that. I wanted to be perfect. I wanted to not get information wrong. I wanted people to believe in what I was doing and that their family members were really coming through. I can remember filtering." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2201.06", "endTime": "2222.805", "body": "I was bringing a father through for one of my coworkers and he kept showing me New Balance sneakers. They were white. And I felt some swelling in my lower extremity, my legs. And I knew that it was probably diabetes. I said to her, did your father have some sort of issue with diabetes because my legs feel like they're kind of swelling?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2222.805", "endTime": "2233.1401", "body": "She goes, yeah, he did. And I said, his feet swelled too. She said, yeah. And I go, yeah. And he would always wear white sneakers or sneakers because it was more comfortable on his feet." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2233.86", "endTime": "2243.175", "body": "And she said, Yes. Notice that I left out the word New Balance. And she said, He only wore New Balance. And I was like, Darn it. Why didn't I say that?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2243.175", "endTime": "2258.44", "body": "And I thought, Because that was so specific. What if I'm wrong? And would that give her the skepticism not to believe that this was actually her father coming through? And as she went on, she said he would only wear New Balance. Those were his favorite sneakers." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2258.52", "endTime": "2279.415", "body": "We always had to go shopping for New Balance. He wouldn't buy anything else. She kept going on and on and on about New Balance, but I chose Missy, not Spirit. Missy chose not to say new balance because she didn't want to be wrong. And so I've learned over the years that the reading is not for me." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2279.735", "endTime": "2286.2", "body": "The reading is obviously for the client, not to filter, right? It'll mean something for them." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2286.2", "endTime": "2305.0352", "body": "Not to filter. Yeah. That was a tough one for me also. I had a client and I don't know, the more I talk about my examples, there's a lot of cheating going on, but I remember a client, she said he's playing stupid. And I remember seeing something so inappropriate and it said at Gmail." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2305.835", "endTime": "2336.805", "body": "It was like a fake email address, but I remember specifically seeing Gmail and the envelope and and I was afraid to say it. She said, Yeah. And then I saw he created something called bigbooty123@gmail.com or it was like something so like inappropriate and something she never thought he would even say out loud. And I remember thinking you see that there's that moment, Denise, spirit was showing you. And I also remember when I first started, after every reading, I would say to spirit, how did I do?" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2337.86", "endTime": "2356.285", "body": "And I would pull a card and they would say things like, don't restrict yourself, speak your truth, throat chakra. They would always say things like speak more, share more. Right? And that was them saying, we're showing you all this stuff in your third eye and you're ignoring it." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2356.925", "endTime": "2357.645", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2357.645", "endTime": "2386.4849", "body": "All because I didn't trust. I just want to go back to you saying the looking around when COVID hits, I wasn't going doing things in readings in person anymore. I remember I started to like doodle, and I've always been a doodler. But I found that when I had a pen in my hand, and I would doodle a little bit, things came so clear. When I'm doing my laundry, I get clear messages from spirit." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2386.805", "endTime": "2411.105", "body": "My Mind, Denise's mind is preoccupied and spirit's loud and clear, right? This is just for those who are either doing this work, thinking about it, doing this work, or even just wanting to use it for your daily walk. Sometimes it's a matter of how do I shut myself down? I'm not good with meditation. So I could never be one of those intuitives that like meditates for forty minutes before they start their readings." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2411.105", "endTime": "2426.01", "body": "Like I'm I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to cook for dinner. I gotta work on my daughter's project for school that's due on Friday. Like I just don't know how to do that. So I had to find ways. And right around 2020 is when I realized like, wow, just like having a piece of paper next to me." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2426.49", "endTime": "2435.77", "body": "And I just And sometimes I will just write some key words that people say. And then all of a sudden, boom, messages start coming through. And I know it's not me. It comes rapid fire." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2436.385", "endTime": "2457.1602", "body": "Yeah. Yeah. With every reading that I do, I typically have a pad of paper and I have a pen in my hand. So sometimes I'm just drawing lines. I'm drawing little doodle marks if you know, Sometimes I'll keep track of certain details that have come through that they didn't connect with right away." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2458.36", "endTime": "2469.055", "body": "Oftentimes I will give them that piece of paper at the end of a reading and just say, Well, these are the things that we talked about that you didn't have a connection with. And I used to worry about that. I used to worry" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2470.415", "endTime": "2472.2551", "body": "If I did that they had stick figures." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2474.095", "endTime": "2474.895", "body": "Oh, yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2475.4102", "endTime": "2478.1301", "body": "My doodles like hearts and stick figures and-" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2478.77", "endTime": "2496.815", "body": "I do a lot of spirals. I spiral a lot, not out of control, but I do spiral a lot. But oftentimes I used to think when I would say something and they're like, Yeah, I don't connect with that. I used to worry about it. I used to think, Well, why would I be hearing that, am I really hearing that?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2496.815", "endTime": "2514.09", "body": "And then it would become the question. Again, the ego was a huge hurdle for me to get over in the beginning. I don't do that now. If I bring something through and I say to somebody, How do you connect with the month of January as it relates to your mom's side of the family, a grandmother for me? I don't." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2514.33", "endTime": "2531.9102", "body": "And I'd say, Okay, all right. And I would write January down on a piece of paper and I'd put a little asterisk next to it. And sure enough, at some point, spirit would circle back around and drive home what January meant. But I used to panic. I used to be like, Oh my God, I got that wrong." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2531.9102", "endTime": "2557.215", "body": "And then I learned from you that you're never going to be 100%. You just don't because again, it could be the way that you're hearing it. It could be the way that you interpret it. It could be the way that it's being shown to you. I remember in a reading I did recently, I had a gentleman's father step forward and he kept straightening like I had a necktie on and he kept straightening it." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2557.72", "endTime": "2575.305", "body": "I was like, Why does he keep straightening my necktie? I said, I don't know why he's doing this. I said, Maybe this will make sense to you, but he keeps straightening as if I have a necktie on and he's straightening the knot. And he just looked at me and he goes, I just can't believe you just said that. I said, What does that mean?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2575.4648", "endTime": "2594.48", "body": "And he said, We took all of my father's neckties and we kind of sewed them together and made this thing. I got shown the picture afterwards and I couldn't believe it. But again, these are things that I could choose to go, I don't wear a necktie. Why is he showing me a necktie? This doesn't make any sense to me." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2594.56", "endTime": "2606.925", "body": "Or I could have interpreted as, Oh, he was a businessman. Well, okay, that's not a great detail, but it meant so much more. So, yeah, it's interpretive." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2606.925", "endTime": "2637.295", "body": "So I did a reading a couple weeks ago and it was a guy who lost his friend in a motorcycle accident And I kept seeing a bumblebee. And I said to him, I don't understand why he showed me a bumblebee. He said, well, we have a newborn son and we call him B. So the whole time I'm thinking, okay, well, maybe that was his reference for me, like for me to get the word be. And then as we got closer to the end of the reading, he's showing me like, he's so proud of his T shirt." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2637.855", "endTime": "2654.45", "body": "And I said, it's yellow and black. And he goes, yeah, that was his favorite t shirt. We cremated him in that shirt. It said something inappropriate, like, you know, doing something to somebody's mother. But he said, but it is striped yellow and black like a bumblebee." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2654.45", "endTime": "2664.1052", "body": "So I twofold. Right? So we we got him to acknowledge the newborn baby bee. Yeah. And then his favorite shirt that he was cremated in." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2664.1052", "endTime": "2688.115", "body": "And so I I love those moments. Yeah. I I wanna share just really quickly a message that Archangel Michael gave me years ago, and it really you know, I feel like I get catapulted. Like, when they brought up that a Harry Potter quote was a catapult for me. I had a client who was going through a divorce and they said, don't worry, you're gonna get this amount of money." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2688.355", "endTime": "2731.74", "body": "And she was panicking and it was days before and they were wanting to do double the amount. And I remember feeling the stress. We talked about the energy vampire where even with clients, sometimes we have to kinda shut them down if they don't get it in a very nice way, at least I try And I remember her stressing me out because it was a day before and her messages to me were, You said this, you said this, this isn't happening. You told me that I And I remember being so overwhelmed by that, Like I started to cry because then I started to question, am I hearing this right? She's getting divorced in less than twenty four hours." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2732.2998", "endTime": "2751.69", "body": "And so I remember just calming down and Archangel Michael said, tell her to call her husband ex to be, even though they have counsel, he will sit and meet with her. She's gonna be okay. And that's all I did. I sent that to her. I said, I know how you feel." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2751.69", "endTime": "2771.115", "body": "I understand. I put it in writing. I think it was an email. And the next day she emailed me and said it was the exact amount by 1,000 that Spirit told her originally, which was six months before all this. She said, I called him, I reached out to him." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2771.115", "endTime": "2781.58", "body": "We met for coffee. When we were done, it was 1,000 off from what Spirit said. So let's say Spirit said 400,000, it was 401,000" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2781.5", "endTime": "2781.9001", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2782.3801", "endTime": "2790.62", "body": "Right? And I remember feeling a relief, but feeling angry, I felt very attacked." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2791.18", "endTime": "2831.275", "body": "And because you don't have trust, you're gonna throw this on me. And I remember sitting in my office and just looking out the window, looking at the water, and I heard very clearly, and I knew it was Archangel Michael, he has such a presence that surpassed, I mean, he feels like thirty feet tall when he comes in. And I heard, and as I was looking outside and watching the sunlight hit the water, he said, if you look at the moon and you say, yep, that's the moon. And we tell you that moon is the sun, it's the sun. And that was his way of saying, honor what we are telling you." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2831.275", "endTime": "2844.8", "body": "We don't care how crazy it sounds. We don't care how unrealistic it feels. If we tell you that sun is the moon, trust us. Don't trust man. You can't trust man over spirit." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2845.28", "endTime": "2863.375", "body": "Is that how that works? Yeah. And that was another moment for me that catapulted my confidence Because I was a perfect example. They gave you a number and they told you to relax, right? We had a card pull a couple episodes ago where it said, get out of your own way." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2864.03", "endTime": "2883.625", "body": "That was a perfect example. I wanted Spirit to say to her, You asked for help, now get out of the way. Are you panicking and not only stressing yourself out, now you're stressing out Denise? You don't have trust? And sure enough, everything matched up in the way that they said it would six months before." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2883.625", "endTime": "2899.69", "body": "And like you said, Missy, we're not 100%, but I'll tell you what, I am going to trust Spirit implicitly in everything that I do with every person that I speak with. And I'm going to honor it even when they fight. That was a catapult for me." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2900.0898", "endTime": "2900.65", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2900.8098", "endTime": "2909.0251", "body": "That was the last time anyone was allowed to, oh God, I don't want to use the word harass, but it felt a little harassing." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2909.0251", "endTime": "2920.3599", "body": "It felt like I was attacked. The day didn't even come yet. You're not even in front of the attorneys and I'm being attacked. Do I really want to go into the energy vampires? But that is kind of an example because" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2920.2", "endTime": "2920.68", "body": "Absolutely." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2921.08", "endTime": "2931.24", "body": "I she's a beautiful person. She's a sweet person, and she's not like that all the time. But in that moment, she was literally draining me. I was so uncomfortable for twelve hours." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2931.895", "endTime": "2939.5752", "body": "Well, and then you can't get out of your head. For me, sometimes it can affect the reading after and then the reading after." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2939.5752", "endTime": "2940.135", "body": "There you go." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2940.135", "endTime": "2955.99", "body": "Until I can finally get out of my head about just let it go. That's that's that reading. That's not this reading. But I think that's something that I struggled with then. I can still struggle with it now." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2955.99", "endTime": "2966.275", "body": "I particularly do not like readings that start like this. Hi, I'm Missy. Nice to meet you. How are you today? You're the psychic. You tell me." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "2967.2349", "endTime": "2971.47", "body": "All. Yeah. You know? You're in for it. You're in for it." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2971.47", "endTime": "2981.6301", "body": "You don't want me to tell you how you feel right now. But like Yeah. Then my guard is up. Now I'm like, okay, it's okay. Look it." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2981.79", "endTime": "2996.995", "body": "I've always said this. I don't mind if you're a skeptic. I don't mind if you're curious or you want to ask questions. That is okay. My job, my responsibility is not to make you a believer." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "2996.995", "endTime": "3022.0251", "body": "That's not my responsibility. My responsibility is to make sure you hear the messages, that you receive the guidance or you receive validation, but it is not my job to change you from a skeptic into a believer. But when you come into a reading with that sort of attitude or thought process, there's an energy vampire right there for you." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3022.0251", "endTime": "3023.385", "body": "There you go. There you go." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3023.385", "endTime": "3049.975", "body": "Right? I have to somehow regulate their emotion of being a skeptic. Just like they they kind of offload their stress or their anxiety or their chaos onto whoever is is closest, and it just may be me. It may not have anything to do with the reading, but that's the way it's coming through. I had a woman that I did a reading for, the other day, and that's the way she started our reading." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3049.975", "endTime": "3065.46", "body": "I went right into my head and said, This is not gonna be a good reading. And guess what? I felt like I was struggling, even though the messages were coming. I said to her, How do you connect with the month of November? I have a woman on your mother's side stepping forward, feels very much like grandmother." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3065.46", "endTime": "3077.115", "body": "How do you connect with the month November? She's bringing up an event that occurred in November. I don't know what you're talking about. And I said, okay. Oh, she's not going to let me come off of the month of November." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3077.115", "endTime": "3091.9", "body": "What is the event that occurred in November that apparently had some sort of, it altered the course of something. She goes, I don't know what you're talking about. Let's move on. And I said, Okay, how do you connect with the month of February? Well, that's my son's birthday." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3092.06", "endTime": "3104.985", "body": "And I said, Okay, and he's still living. Is that correct? And she said, Yes. And I said, Okay, well February, she's linking February and November together for me. Can you tell me what the event was that occurred with your son that had something to do with November?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3104.985", "endTime": "3114.81", "body": "And she goes, I don't know what you're talking about. And I said, Okay. And I tried to move on again, but Spirit kept bringing me back. And then I'm going, Why is this happening, Spirit? What are you doing?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3114.97", "endTime": "3136.5452", "body": "Come to find out, her and her son had a major falling out in the month of November and they no longer talked to each other. And her grandmother was coming forward to say, Just let it go. Just let it be. Her grandmother kept kind of putting her hands together like you're cleaning dirt off your hands. Like, Just wipe your hands of it and move on." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3136.5452", "endTime": "3151.84", "body": "And it is what it is. She did not want to hear that. She didn't want to reveal that she didn't talk to one of her kids, but she made me feel so bad about I'm like, am I crazy? Like, why am I hearing November? Did I get that wrong?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3151.84", "endTime": "3164.6948", "body": "Are these Are these months wrong? Is it not her grandmother? It had me question everything. I almost got to the point where I said, Well, I don't believe that we're connecting. I don't know if the energy feels like it's flowing between us." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3165.15", "endTime": "3176.43", "body": "And I was just gonna stop the reading, but spirit just said, Just, It's okay. Keep going. I had to get out of my own way so I could finish the reading because I was getting upset. I was actually getting angry." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3176.43", "endTime": "3195.78", "body": "Yeah, and it even kind of feels, It feels like a little bit of, bullying on our end when we don't want to move on. And I feel bad when they say, oh, well, maybe this will make sense to me later. And spirit's like, nope, we're going to talk about it now. We've got to dissect because what they think is not that big of a deal is a big deal to, like you said, grandma. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3195.78", "endTime": "3209.135", "body": "Yeah. I had a client, who used to say, tell me something good today. Like, no, that's that's not how we're starting this reading. I'd say, if I have something great to tell you, I'm gonna let you know. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3209.135", "endTime": "3227.78", "body": "Like, no, no, no. This isn't, let me feel good today, Denise. Nope. Spirit's gonna tell you what you need to hear, not what you think you need to hear to feel good. Because there's a lot of things that, I mean, I've seen Spirit in sessions talk about client's parenting." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3228.66", "endTime": "3240.365", "body": "No matter what card I pull, it's about you've got to nurture. I need you to nurture. And then she'll say, okay, no, I get that. I wanna talk about my boyfriend. I didn't plan to talk about my children." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3240.365", "endTime": "3251.165", "body": "And I'm like, well, there's the answer. Yeah. Right? Because the idea that you even want to disrupt Spirit from talking about your children, talk about your boyfriend, where are your priorities?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3251.68", "endTime": "3252.16", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3252.16", "endTime": "3268.575", "body": "And what Spirit said, we're not talking about your boyfriend because that's not a priority. Your daughter who's no longer talking to you is. Yeah. And that little girl was about 12 years old at the time. And so we find ourselves regulating constantly." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3268.7349", "endTime": "3279.98", "body": "I want people to listen to this podcast and think not necessarily like, wow, they're so unique. We're not really trying to be unique. We're just trying to be authentic. Yeah. Right." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3279.98", "endTime": "3284.14", "body": "And, yeah, I thought today was a really good day to do this. How do you feel?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3284.3", "endTime": "3316.48", "body": "Yeah, no, I agree. We can certainly talk about any other subject and we have some really great things coming up where we're going to be interviewing people and we're really looking forward to that. But I want our listeners, new listeners, repeat listeners to get to know us a little bit more. And I don't want anyone to get the idea that we just woke up yesterday and and we became this. You and I have both had very difficult journeys in life." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3316.48", "endTime": "3356.1199", "body": "Things haven't always been easy for us, whether it's been relationships or the corporate world, having to let go of friendships. I found that as soon as I started doing this work, a lot of friends dropped away because they thought I was crazy or they didn't believe me, and I found that to be hurtful. You and I have often talked about how this can feel very nomadic at times. It can be very it can be lonely work, but then there's very it's very rewarding. I think our emotions can run the gamut." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3356.775", "endTime": "3426.0", "body": "It can be great happiness, but there can also be some sadness. It can be heavy work. It can be light work. It can be filled with love and compassion. And then you have to be, you know, a little stern with people. But at the end of the day, we are sensitive beings. They always say we are spiritual beings having a human experience. So Denise and I are still having our human experience along with the work that we're doing, and our human experience can be messy. It can be chaotic. Scary at times. Scary. It can be all of those things. We still experience relationships that don't work out, relationships that do work out. We still experience having to deal with when a car breaks down or when our pet is sick, dealing with family members. We're trying to hold space for everybody else, but also create a space for us to feel safe." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3426.0798", "endTime": "3426.88", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3426.96", "endTime": "3428.4", "body": "Would you agree with that?" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3429.44", "endTime": "3443.0151", "body": "Yeah, Listen, we're spiritual gangsters. We're are spiritual gangsters. It takes a lot. And I'm always apologizing to people for me delaying communication." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3443.0151", "endTime": "3459.41", "body": "If I've done readings for six, seven hours straight, the last thing I want to do is pick up the phone and talk. Yeah. And I thank God for the friends who understood that. They're the ones that are still riding with me. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3459.97", "endTime": "3480.715", "body": "There are people who took offense to it. Oh, I just saw you post something on Instagram and you have even responded to my text. The majority of people who are calling and wanna talk that are in our personal life usually wanna share something. Missy and I are natural empaths. People naturally gravitate towards us." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3480.715", "endTime": "3492.0798", "body": "There's reason why friends come to us. There's a reason why family come to us for guidance and advice. And yeah, sometimes it's like, Hey, can I call you this weekend? And they're like, Dude, it's Tuesday. I'm like, I know." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3492.0798", "endTime": "3502.335", "body": "I know it's Tuesday and I wanna book time on Saturday, but I got a long week. And those true friends that get it." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3502.7349", "endTime": "3503.375", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3503.375", "endTime": "3504.7349", "body": "Say yes, it's okay." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3504.8948", "endTime": "3535.845", "body": "And I think the other challenge that we face is striking a balance between serving the purpose and what we've been called to do and then self serving. And I don't mean it in a selfish way, but I call it self preservation. I've gotta be able to preserve my own self mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically so that I can do this work when I'm called to do it, when I'm called to serve." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3535.845", "endTime": "3560.725", "body": "I don't get a chance to say to spirit, I don't want to do this anymore. I could say it, but I just know that it probably would not leave me alone. I would always feel called back into this work. There's a reason why I do what I do, but there are days that I have said to spirit, I don't have it today. I just am exhausted." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3560.8052", "endTime": "3585.345", "body": "I'm tired. I need rest. I need a Missy day. And if we don't take it, then I always notice that I'm not as crisp. I still get messages and I can still do the readings, but I don't feel the exuberance behind it if I haven't taken time honor myself." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3585.505", "endTime": "3587.025", "body": "And that's not selfish." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3587.7449", "endTime": "3607.59", "body": "That's not selfish at all And at if you want us to do good work, you have to honor that. I've had clients say, Can I get a reading at like seven in the morning? And I'm like, no, I am not a morning person. And they'll say, well, can you make an exception? And I say to them, I promise you, you don't want a reading from me at seven in the morning." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3608.905", "endTime": "3609.465", "body": "Like we know ourselves," }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3609.3052", "endTime": "3614.985", "body": "You do not want Denise at seven in the morning. I" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3614.985", "endTime": "3615.945", "body": "know what" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3615.945", "endTime": "3634.35", "body": "my energy will be like. I know what I can contribute. I can't do it. I also wanted to share, there have been plenty of times, and this is the human side to me, where I've thought, this is so much work, I'm so exhausted, I'm ready to pack up and just shut my website down and go get a corporate job." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3634.43", "endTime": "3645.405", "body": "Spirit's like, dude, you're not going anywhere. Stop with this nonsense. You're just having a moment. And you know what? If you need to take a day off, then take a day off, but you're not taking a lifetime off." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3645.405", "endTime": "3645.885", "body": "Right." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3647.325", "endTime": "3652.55", "body": "This is what you're meant to do. So I get it. You're moody. You're miserable right now." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3652.55", "endTime": "3661.27", "body": "Go figure it out. Like Missy says, I need a Missy day. There are days I need a Denise day. Usually on those days, Missy and I are talking. We're helping each other." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3661.27", "endTime": "3690.02", "body": "We're rejuvenating each other. I will send her a text just to remind her, let's make sure we're taking care of self because I know Missy has been so busy lately. And I I wanna remind her just make sure we we've got Missy time because it's exhausting. We're not trying to discourage anyone who feels this is a calling for them, but we're being realistic about what it takes from us, mentally, emotionally, spiritually. Like Missy said, there's loneliness." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3690.02", "endTime": "3711.17", "body": "There's a difference between being alone and feeling loneliness, right? We always have spirit, we know that, but it's like spirit, I can't touch you, feel you, we can't go play tennis. Yeah. I mean, we get the presence, but you know, sometimes we need more than that. And it's a lot, but when you have a calling, you can't ignore it." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3711.17", "endTime": "3725.7551", "body": "You can try all you want. I remember at 21 waking up, I was on tour with a musical and I looked over and there was this massive angel in, you know, in front of my roommate. And I said, spirit, stop it. I told you I don't like this. I don't wanna see it." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3726.5552", "endTime": "3735.0352", "body": "For a whole year, I didn't see another angel and then boom, it came. Right? Like, was like, we'll give you a break, but buddy, this is what you're gonna be doing." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3735.595", "endTime": "3736.635", "body": "So can't do it." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3737.16", "endTime": "3751.325", "body": "Yeah. And I I like that you brought up the difference or brought up, you know, being alone or loneliness. And I always say that the difference for me is from time to time, I experience loneliness. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3751.325", "endTime": "3787.575", "body": "A companion nearby to do things with, or just a friend to call up who doesn't want anything from you, just to be in your presence and go take a hike. Then, I like my alone time. That's where I just get back to just being who I am, and I don't have to think about being a psychic or doing mediumship work. I can just be me. I love when I go to get my hair done, and I'm not expected to be anybody but just a patron at that time, and I can get a little bit of pampering." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3788.215", "endTime": "3824.0", "body": "I think people need to understand that this isn't just about And I think you've had this comment made to you, and I've had the comment made to me, I wish I could do what you do and just sit and talk all day. Oh, you know? I feel like going, If that's what you think I do, you really don't understand what I do. It's just not that. My vibration, it's like a treadmill at the highest incline running at 60 miles an hour, and I'm doing that reading after reading after reading for sometimes five hours, sometimes six hours." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3824.56", "endTime": "3826.7202", "body": "And that is exhausting." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3826.96", "endTime": "3827.36", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3827.36", "endTime": "3843.4949", "body": "And yeah. Yeah. I had an aunt who said to me, Oh, you're such a recluse, because every time she wants to make plans with me, there's like a day that I'm working. Like when I'm done with my readings, the last thing I wanna do is go out and hang out. I don't know if I took offense to the word recluse." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3843.4949", "endTime": "3857.15", "body": "Yeah, maybe I was a little sensitive to it, but I have to remind myself they don't get it. Like, this is not about me being a recluse. I have one day off a week, one day off a week. Can I just breathe?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3857.63", "endTime": "3858.35", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3858.51", "endTime": "3889.49", "body": "Allow me to breathe. And I also want to say healers come in many forms. It's not just us. We've got nurses out there. We've got doctors out there. We've got therapists out there that feel the same way. We may not be jumping dimensions like we are. Right? But I can only imagine having to take on the burden of other people's story and guiding them. It's a lot. Healers need a break. And if you are a healer, you gotta have a Missy day and a Denise day." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3889.875", "endTime": "3890.595", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "3890.595", "endTime": "3891.955", "body": "You gotta have a you day." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3892.355", "endTime": "3914.7803", "body": "And that and that can be really anyone that works in a a stressful job. You know, we can say a police officer, a a firefighter, a paramedic, CEO, a CFO. You're a stay at home mom with three, four kids. That can bring on stress. Everybody has to find their balance." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3914.86", "endTime": "3959.04", "body": "You have to find that time where it's just yours. And I'm reminded by spirit all the time that says the most important relationship that you can have in this lifetime is the one that you have with yourself. So as much as it is important, the work that you do, that's the what that you do, but the who that you are, that's where the connection truly lies. And to make sure that you are taking that time for yourself, no matter what profession you find yourself in. I just think for us, we really want people to understand the energetic output that is required in this work, as well as the energetic input, what we take in." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3959.04", "endTime": "3983.775", "body": "There is definitely a distinction between those. But I know 10 times out of 10, I would not go back to the corporate world. I would continue to do this work, and I know that spirit is going to help me through all the ups and the downs, the trials and the tribulations. They say what, With great responsibility comes great reward." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "3983.775", "endTime": "4010.775", "body": "I think that's the Spider Man quote, something like that, or with great responsibility comes great reward. So, I know that when I see someone smile because I brought their father through and they've been waiting to connect with him, or I've said something that I've given them the clearance to leave the job that they're in that they've so hated for the past five years and spirit says, it's time. Go ahead. Pack your bags. You can go." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "4010.9348", "endTime": "4033.195", "body": "There's so much reward in doing this work, and I just I wouldn't change it. I still get excited to connect with people. The elation of bringing a loved one through or their pet, I just wouldn't change it. I absolutely wouldn't. I love what I do and I hope people understand that." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "4033.275", "endTime": "4040.635", "body": "Yeah, that's right. Okay, guys. Yeah. That's it. We don't even know what we're gonna title this, but we'll figure it out." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "4041.3098", "endTime": "4059.455", "body": "Yeah. There's a little bit of this and a little bit of that, but I think you will 100% take something away from this conversation that we had today. And, we have a lot coming up that we think you'll be very excited about. Next week, Is it next week, Missy? Yeah. The eighteenth." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "4059.5352", "endTime": "4066.4153", "body": "On the eighteenth, we have a special guest that's coming in. You should we tell them a little bit about it or surprise them?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "4067.375", "endTime": "4070.8152", "body": "We can at least give them what we'll be talking about." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "4070.975", "endTime": "4071.7751", "body": "Okay. Go for it." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "4072.8098", "endTime": "4089.8052", "body": "So we will be interviewing a special guest that has a background in working with the mummies of the world exhibit, And that's all I'm going to say." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "4090.7651", "endTime": "4106.6597", "body": "Let add to that. Okay. She's not just working with the mummies. Every location they go to, the mummies make it very clear that they are present. We'll leave it at that." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "4106.82", "endTime": "4108.0996", "body": "Yeah. I love that." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "4108.0996", "endTime": "4140.7695", "body": "So before we wrap up, I wanted to pull a card for the collective And the card that I pulled says cancel, clear, and delete. And there is a couple sentences on the bottom and I think I feel compelled to read it verbatim. It says use only positive words and thoughts as they're rapidly manifesting into form. Ask the angels to cancel the effects of past negative thinking. I know." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "4141.57", "endTime": "4141.9697", "body": "Cancel." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "4141.9697", "endTime": "4142.61", "body": "I like that." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "4143.065", "endTime": "4148.505", "body": "I know. Cancel, clear, and delete. The last time we spoke, we pulled a card." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "4148.505", "endTime": "4179.775", "body": "We focused on the world's energy, and I still keep getting world energy, but I also keep getting in personal life. You know, Missy and I, we had a conversation before we started recording today about how careful people need to be with their words. The fact that there are so many people that are using AI to speak for them and it comes off disingenuous. It's not authentic and it's now becoming so obvious. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "4180.015", "endTime": "4206.485", "body": "We cannot disrupt proper communication. I remember the days when if someone wanted to break up with you, you'd pick up the phone and you'd say, hey, we've had a great time. I don't know if this is working out. I literally had a client who was months away from her wedding and her fiance broke up with her via text. Five years together and he broke up with her via text." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "4206.485", "endTime": "4207.2046", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "4207.605", "endTime": "4219.3", "body": "So nobody's communicating properly these days. Be considerate enough and really put thought into how you're communicating. Do you want to add to that, Missy?" }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "4220.42", "endTime": "4255.645", "body": "Yeah. There's something that AI can never replace, and that's your energy, your authenticity, your organic self, your realness, your rawness. I just don't believe that AI can replace any of that. So I think it's super important with, you know, cancel, clear, delete, however you want to navigate that, but let's be considerate of each other. Let's think about the consideration that you would want for yourself and make sure that we're giving that to each other as well." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "4255.645", "endTime": "4272.6597", "body": "And make sure you're giving that to yourself as well. When I said earlier in the episode, how every once in a while, I'll have those moments where I'm just like, this is too much for me. It's a lot. I don't know if I can handle this. Like, Denise, you know this is what you're supposed to be doing." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "4272.82", "endTime": "4286.135", "body": "You're having a moment and don't put that energy out there. Just Right? The the whole purpose of Missy and I doing this episode was to remind you guys how human we are doing this work. So be careful with the words that you speak to yourself also." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "4286.1353", "endTime": "4303.515", "body": "100%. I agree. But as always, if you haven't given us a like or a follow, we would appreciate that. You can find me at 3rd-eye-open.com. You can certainly do a search for Missy Taylor and my website will pop up." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "4303.515", "endTime": "4317.9595", "body": "I'm also located at the Center for the New Age in beautiful Sedona, Arizona. If you find yourself in the area, please go to their website, reach out to me. Would love to meet you in person. And where can everybody find you?" }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "4318.1997", "endTime": "4330.76", "body": "You can find me at divineguidance944.com Some people know it also as denisepowell944.com . I do Zoom readings and over the phone readings." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "4331.565", "endTime": "4352.34", "body": "Yep. We both offer phone and Zoom. So have appreciated you guys just being with us today and listening to us just kind of talk back and forth about Energy Vampires, of the different readings that we've done, why we love our work, what's challenging about our work. And we're here to answer any questions that you have. If you'd like to share any kind of feedback, we'd love that too." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "4352.5", "endTime": "4360.6597", "body": "We're just getting started. We keep saying it, but we're just getting started. A lot more to come. Just appreciate you more than you know." }, { "speaker": "Denise", "startTime": "4362.235", "endTime": "4364.395", "body": "Right, Thank for joining us." }, { "speaker": "Missy", "startTime": "4364.475", "endTime": "4369.835", "body": "Yep. And until next time, we love you. Bye bye. Bye." } ] }