WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:15.080 practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible guys. I 4 00:00:15.119 --> 00:00:16.160 am Chris Zarba. 5 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:18.839 Oh excellent. I was wondering who you were. I'm sitting 6 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:20.120 here going who is that? Guys? 7 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:24.039 To meet you? Yeah, and this is Jeff. 8 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:29.440 For Forster, Jeff Forster. Actually there's another Jeff Forrester, is there? Yeah? 9 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:30.600 Well I would amuse it's. 10 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:33.600 Kind of a famous Jeff Forster in Minneapolis. Yeah. 11 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:38.320 There's a lawyer named Chris Zarba in Texas. Yeah, there's 12 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:39.719 not Zara is not a common name. 13 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:41.880 Do you think he'd do well on the Bible guys? 14 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:45.560 I don't know. Maybe he's a phenomenal guy. He's an attorney. 15 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:48.880 We should get your attorney and my forest ranger guy. Yeah, 16 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:49.920 and we can put them together. 17 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:52.240 Sure that sounds like a really weird idea. 18 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:55.359 Okay, well just keep at it, I guess. 19 00:00:55.520 --> 00:01:00.920 Yeah. So, hey, we are moving into a segment. We're 20 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:03.719 going to read for you a very important piece of news. 21 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:07.680 Yes, so I just lost it. By the way, hang 22 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:11.040 on a minute, let me find it. Let me go 23 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:13.599 back here. There we go. So do you know, uh, 24 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:15.319 what's your favorite Christmas song? 25 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:21.400 My favorite Christmas song is Oh There's no place like 26 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:23.840 Home for the Holidays. 27 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:25.400 Nice bing. 28 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:29.920 So no matter how far you is that. 29 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:33.359 Bing Crosby, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I really liked 30 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:34.319 the song Mary, did you know? 31 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:37.000 Yeah, well that's one route to go. 32 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:39.079 That's I love it. Yeah, I love that. 33 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:41.959 What I'm saying is you're making me look bad Jesus like. 34 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:48.680 Jesus Jesus, you know. So there's a but so, uh, 35 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:52.079 there's some controversy. And so I think our fans and 36 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:54.200 our listeners they know, they know that we only bring 37 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:57.319 the most important news in their finest news, the most 38 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:00.000 trustworthy news. You know, it's one of the most trustworthy sources. 39 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.159 Who we are, Yes, that's right. And so what is 40 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:03.519 the most trustworthy source we. 41 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:04.719 Know of the Babylon be. 42 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:06.879 The Babylon B is what we feel like is the 43 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:10.000 most Yes. I mean they set the bar so high 44 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:11.520 on quality news. 45 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:13.360 Yes, and information, way better than CNN. 46 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:15.280 You can trust it, yes, or any of them for 47 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:18.800 that matter. Okay, So Babylon B, if you don't know, 48 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:23.759 is a satire website. It's hysterically funny but the headline 49 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:28.039 is popular Christmas song Mary, did you know criticized for man'splaining? 50 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:31.159 Which is so funny? If you know the song, which 51 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:34.840 I'm sure most people know the song, right, it's really funny. Yes, 52 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:35.680 it's really funny. 53 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:38.080 Someday walk on Mary? 54 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:43.400 Are you aware? Let me ask you for the nineteenth 55 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:44.120 time in the song. 56 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:46.199 Do you have the lyrics? Do you have the lyrics 57 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:46.560 to this song? 58 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:48.879 I could definitely definitely bring that up there. 59 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:51.719 Yeah, yeah, because I mean that's really important for if 60 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:54.919 a person doesn't know the song Mary. Did you know? 61 00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:59.400 Mary? Oops? I hate when it does that. I hate 62 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:01.080 when it does that. Mary. 63 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:04.439 This he's very complicated lyrics. 64 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:08.800 Okay, So basically, here's what it says. Mary. Did you 65 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:10.560 know that your baby boy will walk one day, walk 66 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:10.919 on water? 67 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:11.240 Mary? 68 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:13.080 Did you know that your baby boy we sons are 69 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:15.520 saving daughters. Did you know that your baby boys come 70 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:18.039 to make things new? That child you that the child 71 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:20.080 you delivered will soon deliver you married. Did you know 72 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:21.759 that your baby boy will give sight to a blind 73 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:23.680 man married? Did you know that your baby boy will 74 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:25.319 call the storm with a sision? Did you know that 75 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:27.159 your baby that's all it does? 76 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:27.439 Yes? 77 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:29.039 He goes all the way through and it just keeps 78 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:30.919 on asking, which is hilarious. 79 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:34.439 So with that in mind, yes, that Mark Lowry, who, 80 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:37.520 by the way, very funny Christian comedians, very funny, sang 81 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:39.280 with the Gay Through vocal band for years and years 82 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:42.400 and years. He wrote the song. So members of the 83 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:46.199 United Evangelistic World Faith Missionary Alliance Church voted to remove 84 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:48.599 the song Mary did you Know from their library of 85 00:03:48.680 --> 00:03:51.759 songs members of the church could sing karaoke style during 86 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:54.759 Christmas services after coming to a consensus that the song 87 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:58.240 is pure man's blaming. Yes, quote every line is a 88 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:01.199 man condescending to a woman, assuming she doesn't know anything 89 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:04.000 about her own baby, said Margie Hall, chairman of the 90 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:06.960 church board. The fact that this song was written and 91 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:09.680 originally sung by a man just makes my skin crawl. 92 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:11.719 My goodness that you know what they're making fun but 93 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:13.000 that's I could actually see this. 94 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:16.560 Being an actual Oh. Absolutely in twenty twenty four. Absolutely, 95 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:20.240 do you think Margie Hall has a nose ring? Uh? No, 96 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:23.439 I do not, Okay, I do not. The original performer 97 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:26.040 and writer of the song, comedian and vocalist Mark Lowry, 98 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:28.920 commented on the controversy by explaining his position in a 99 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:32.839 condescending and overconfident tone. Lowry has also been accused of 100 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:35.680 man spreading. His defenders are few, but those who have 101 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:41.160 come out in his favor are commonly accused of hympathy empathy. 102 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:44.759 Lowry has been encouraged to write a new song titled 103 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:47.040 Mary Sorry, I'll shut up and do better. 104 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:48.120 That's so great. 105 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:50.959 That is so good. So I had no idea that 106 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:52.439 was so because you know, there are a lot of 107 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:55.720 Christmas song controversies. Oh yeah, and so this is a 108 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:57.399 new one, and we just wanted to throw our hat 109 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:00.000 in the ring and saying, hey, we endorse all controversy. 110 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:04.399 Yeah, that's right, we endured some controversy, big fans. That's 111 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:07.839 so funny. Okay, you know the uh there. There is 112 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:11.199 almost nothing worse than cancel culture. 113 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:13.920 Cancel culture is the worst. It is, it is. I 114 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:17.199 think we should cancel cancel culture. I cancel it right now, 115 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:20.120 cancel it. Declare bankruptcy. 116 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:24.439 Do you remember that on the office Remember Oscar oscar 117 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:26.920 It's financial advisor said that he has to declared bankruptcy 118 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:28.920 and he said he did you ever consider doing that? 119 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:30.680 And he's like yeah, and he didn't understand what it meant. 120 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:33.000 So he walks out into the office publicly in front 121 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:35.319 of all his employees and he goes, hi. 122 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:39.519 Oh, that's right, I remember that. I remember that. 123 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:43.800 And he's like, that's not what declaring means, Michael, that's 124 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:47.560 so funny. Anyway, all right, let's move on. 125 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:50.000 I don't even know how to transition this next one. 126 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:52.800 Oh she was We forgot about transitions at least the 127 00:05:52.879 --> 00:05:53.720 time I did. 128 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:54.560 Hey. 129 00:05:56.079 --> 00:06:02.439 Uh, speaking of man's planning? Uh has the man splain 130 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:05.560 to all the fools in life? 131 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:08.680 Yeah, an entire book of life hacks from a mansplainer. 132 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:13.800 Yes, because the people like me and others who have 133 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:15.959 to get Man's plained to, we really appreciate it. That 134 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:16.959 was a pretty weak transition. 135 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:19.519 It was rough. That's rough. Well, one of our goals 136 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:27.079 was really bad transitions. That may have set the new Barkay. Okay, 137 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:30.199 So we're in chapter twenty three, right, Yes, and it says, 138 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:32.560 while dining with a ruler, pay attention to what is 139 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:34.920 put before you. If you're a big eater, put a 140 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:37.240 knife to your throat. Don't desire all the delicacies or 141 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:40.879 he might be trying to trick you. Don't wear yourself 142 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.639 out trying to get rich, be wise enough to know 143 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:47.000 when to quit, and the blink of an eye wealth disappears, 144 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:49.319 for it will sprout wings and fly away like an eagle. 145 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:53.399 Don't eat with people who are stingy. Don't desire their delicacies. 146 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:56.120 They are always thinking about how much it costs eat 147 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:58.480 and drink, they say, but they don't mean it. You 148 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:00.879 will throw up what little you've eaten. Your compliments will 149 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:04.519 be wasted. Don't waste your breath on fools, for they 150 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:08.879 will despise. The wisest advice. Don't cheat your neighbor by 151 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.560 moving the ancient boundary markers. And don't take the land 152 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:15.199 of defenseless orphans. For their redeemer is strong, he himself 153 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:18.720 will bring their charges against you. Commit yourself to instruction, 154 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:22.399 Listen carefully to words of knowledge. Don't fail to discipline 155 00:07:22.439 --> 00:07:26.519 your children. They won't die if you spank them. Physical. 156 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:31.720 Physical discipline may well save them from death. Wow, so 157 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:35.439 he's saying the opposite, right, my child. If your heart 158 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:38.560 is wise, my own heart will rejoice. Everything in me 159 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:42.560 will celebrate when you speak what is right. Don't envy sinners, 160 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:44.480 but always continue to fear the Lord. You will be 161 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:48.720 rewarded For this your hope will not be disappointed. My child, 162 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:50.959 listen and be wise. Keep your heart on the right course. 163 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:53.959 Do not carouse with drunkards or feast with gluttons, for 164 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:56.120 they are on their way to poverty and too much sleep. 165 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:59.839 Close them in rags. Listen to your father, who gave you, 166 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:02.959 and don't despise your mother when she is old. Get 167 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:06.920 the truth and never sell it. Also get wisdom, discipline, 168 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:10.639 and good judgment. The father of godly children has cause 169 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:13.120 for joy. What a pleasure to have children who are wise. 170 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.480 So give your father mother joy. May she who gave 171 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:20.199 you birth be happy. Oh my son, give give me 172 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:23.079 your heart. May your eyes take the light in following 173 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:27.279 my ways. A prostitute is a dangerous trap. A promiscuous 174 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:30.879 woman is as dangerous as falling into a narrow well. 175 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:34.720 She hides and waits like a robber, eager to make 176 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:39.919 more men unfaithful. Who has anguish, who has sorrow? Who 177 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.960 is always fighting, who's always complaining? Who has unnecessary bruises? 178 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:46.919 Who has bloodshot eyes? It's the one who spends long 179 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:50.440 hours in the taverns trying out new drinks. Don't gaze 180 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:52.559 at the wine, seeing how red it is how it 181 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:55.320 sparkles in the cup, how smoothly it goes down. For 182 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:57.720 in the end, it bites like a poisonous snake. It 183 00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:00.720 stings like a viper. You'll see halloosas nations, and you'll 184 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:03.279 say crazy things, and you'll stagger like a sailor tossed 185 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:07.159 at sea, clinging to a swaying mast. You will say, 186 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:09.639 they hit me, but I didn't feel it. I didn't 187 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:11.720 even know it when they beat me up? When will 188 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:13.960 I wake up so I can look for another drink? 189 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:20.639 Very descriptive. You'll stagger like a sailor tossed at sea? 190 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:24.159 Right right? Right? Yeah? Wow? 191 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:29.440 Yeah? So am I reading this right? This could be 192 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:32.679 like one of the coolest metaphors, Like, it's like artistic. 193 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:35.639 Even it's verse number twenty three, Actually twenty two and 194 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:37.879 twenty three seemed to go together. It says, listen to 195 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:40.799 your father who gave you life, and don't despise your 196 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:43.559 mother when she is old. And then it says get 197 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:47.679 the truth and never sell it, along with wisdom, discipline, 198 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:52.159 and good judgment. So is that like, is that he's 199 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:56.240 not literally talking about selling a piece of information? 200 00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:56.600 Is he? 201 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:00.159 I think that the way I'm reading it is. It's 202 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:04.039 like this cool metaphor of like, for instance, if your 203 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:06.559 father hands you like a family heirloom, like a like 204 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:09.200 a brooch with a diamond in it, he's saying, well, 205 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:13.080 you'll sell that, you know, just for temporary gain. And 206 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.399 he's saying, let me tell you one thing that you'll 207 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:20.440 never don't ever do is don't ever let go of 208 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:25.399 truth and compromise it by gaining. Like let's just say, like, 209 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:29.039 you know, like you compromise your integrity, right, And so 210 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:32.440 it's like a metaphor of like saying, it's just as 211 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:36.399 if selling something off for something temporary, don't ever let 212 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:41.039 go of wisdom and truth for a temporary compromise. So 213 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:43.200 it's like it's metaphoric because that's how I'm reading it. 214 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:43.639 Is that so? 215 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:44.600 Or is it literal? 216 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:48.120 So it says in verse twenty three, King James says, 217 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:50.519 because that's why I grow up on right, James says, 218 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:54.879 buy wisdom and sell it not. And my dad I 219 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:58.039 remember my dad talking about that passage and he said, 220 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:02.960 the sell it not part could have been translated don't 221 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:08.559 pawn it right, Yeah, but that still sounds pretty satistical. 222 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:12.279 That's right, that's the idea though, is is you get 223 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:15.799 a hold of something and you know it's doesn't have 224 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:19.960 the same value to you as maybe the thing that 225 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:22.440 it could get you, so you you pawn it so 226 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:24.720 that you can go get something else. What he's saying 227 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:28.240 is there's nothing, nothing you can possess that's more important 228 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:28.840 than wisdom. 229 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:33.120 Yeah, yeah, So I love it. I love that. I 230 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:36.759 love that analogy because you know, even even today here 231 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:39.399 we have you know, a group of people listening who 232 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:42.879 thousands and thousands of years later, we can completely relate 233 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:46.720 to that concept. Right. And when you pawn something, you 234 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.320 take something typically of really really good value, and you 235 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:53.159 pawn it off for way less than what it's worth, 236 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:56.240 and you lose it. For the most part, almost everybody 237 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:59.320 loses it, right, And so yeah, pawning it is just 238 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:00.720 a concept. 239 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:02.840 And usually we take something that we could keep for 240 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:05.559 a long time, we pawn it. And it's usually so 241 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:07.840 we can pay for something that's going to be temporary, right, 242 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:10.840 keep the lights on, right, make one more monthly payment 243 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:13.720 on the car something, yes, Yes, And that's what he's 244 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:17.159 talking about, is we're often tempted to trade in the 245 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:19.879 strength and permanency of wisdom, will trade it in for 246 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:23.360 something temporary. That's yeah, Yeah, that's really solid, isn't it. 247 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:26.679 Yeah, that really is cool. I like that because again 248 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:28.840 it's just it's you can hang on to that word 249 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:32.080 picture in your life and everybody knows what it's like. Well, 250 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:33.639 even if you don't know what it's like, you've you've 251 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:36.360 you can get your mind around it anyway. It's pretty cool. 252 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.919 There's so many places that are challenging us to pursue wisdom. 253 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:46.639 Make wisdom the principal goal of our life, you know, 254 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:48.639 And and we know that the fear of the Lord 255 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:50.840 is the beginning of wisdom. Certainly, so that's going to 256 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.840 require that we step into a real relationship with God. 257 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:56.720 And then wisdom is the thing that'll carry us through. 258 00:12:56.840 --> 00:12:59.799 Wisdom is is the thing that it will help us 259 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:02.320 overcome all of the struggles and the problems. And here 260 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:08.120 he also adds along with getting the truth and don't 261 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:11.360 ever sell it. So we need truth, and then he says, 262 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:16.679 get wisdom. Discipline is the is the discipline quite honestly, 263 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:22.200 is making the choices, the right choices right, Because our 264 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:25.600 our natural inclination is not to want to always do right. 265 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:29.360 Our national inclination is to please ourselves, and so discipline 266 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:31.279 would be no, I'm going to make the best choice, 267 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:36.200 not the funnest choice. Right, and it's funnest the work. 268 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:39.000 No, I don't think it's fun most fun fun. 269 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.759 Yeah. And then and then good judgment, which good judgment 270 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:47.159 really is? There's a uh that word usually is translated 271 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:51.480 as discernment. This ability to know how to apply wisdom 272 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:56.879 is what that is. So uh, truth sets us up 273 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:00.879 for if we apply truth wisdom, right, wisdom is applied truth, 274 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:07.480 and then discipline is the focus and the character necessary 275 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:11.639 to actually live out that wise thing. Discernment is knowing 276 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:15.039 how to apply wisdom in their life. So yeah, right, 277 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:15.679 it's really good. 278 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:19.360 That's really good. And then also there's this other like, 279 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:22.320 I don't think it's a literal thing. I think it's 280 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:27.600 a more like a word picture where he says, don't 281 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:30.360 eat with people who are stingy, don't desire their delicacies. 282 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:33.840 They're always thinking about how much it costs. So stop 283 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:36.000 right there. And it's like, have you ever been around 284 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:39.559 people that are that way? You can just tell, you know, 285 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:42.759 And so like being a guest of theirs, you know, 286 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.480 and they may have a really nice place and but 287 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:48.399 just being around. It is just I've been there, I've 288 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:51.360 lived that that experience. And he says eat and drink. 289 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:53.159 They say, but they don't mean it. And it says 290 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:55.639 you will throw up what little you've eaten, and your 291 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:58.639 compliments will be wasted. I also think of that as poetic. 292 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:02.159 I literally really don't think they need because they're stingy. 293 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:05.919 You're going to vomit up the food, right, Like that's. 294 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:08.320 Not literal, right, It'll make you sick, sick to your 295 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:09.279 stomach kind of thing. 296 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:12.159 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and your compliments will be wasted. It's 297 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:15.039 just it's really cool. This is a very poetic book 298 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:19.679 for you know, this chapter anyway really cool. Don't waste 299 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:24.759 your breath on fools, for they will despise the wisest advice. Yeah, 300 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:29.399 don't waste your breath right, right, But have you ever 301 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:32.759 tried to Have you ever tried to talk wisdom into 302 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:35.080 a fool? You know, and you can just you know, 303 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:37.320 go on and on on, and it's like, wow, they're 304 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:39.399 gonna have to learn this the hard way. Have you 305 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:42.440 ever been convinced of that somebody will walk out of 306 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:44.919 your office or you know, leave a conversation or maybe 307 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:47.360 they're a part of your family and you're thinking, uh, 308 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:51.240 you know, extended family hopefully, and you're thinking, uh, yeah, 309 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:54.279 this this person's never going to listen to everything that 310 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:57.080 everybody around them is saying. That's awful. 311 00:15:57.200 --> 00:16:04.600 Right. Then there are a number of warnings about illicit relationships. 312 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:08.720 Now you remember this is Solomon, King Solomon. He's writing 313 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:12.039 a lot of these things to his son. He mentions 314 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:15.120 it in multiple chapters. So this is a man talking 315 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:19.399 to another a young man. Right. There are immoral men 316 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:22.919 out there too that lead women astray, But in this situation, 317 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:27.519 he's usually writing to his sons, right, don't forsake the 318 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:30.080 teaching of your of you know, oh my son, don't 319 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:34.360 forget you know, my teachings, or a son, make your do. 320 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:36.720 Not forsake the instruction of your father and your mother. 321 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:38.919 Verse twenty six, Oh my son, give me your heart, 322 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:41.159 may your eyes take the light, and following my ways. 323 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:44.600 And then immediately afterwards he says a prostitute is a 324 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:48.600 dangerous trap. So he's talking to his son. Yes, he's 325 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:51.080 not saying that women are bad and men are good, right, 326 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:52.919 he just happens to be talking to a boy right now. 327 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:54.919 So if this was mom talking to a daughter say, hey, 328 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:56.399 watch out, there's some really bad men out there going 329 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:57.960 to take advantage of you. Right. 330 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:03.320 So that's and he's describing what in that day especially, 331 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:08.400 would be promoted as a dangerous trap. So like, for instance, 332 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:09.640 for instance. 333 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:11.680 Like, well, it's also a dangerous trapping this day too. 334 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:14.119 Yes, yes, I understand, but I was I was going 335 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:16.599 to try to put a little bit of a distinction, right. So, 336 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:21.680 so it's you know, the United States, it's illegal, rights, 337 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:25.119 it's illegal, but in that day and age, it was 338 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:29.880 very much a accepted part of culture, right, and so 339 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:33.480 and that's the big that's the big difference between the son, 340 00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:38.119 you know, who's uh, he's saying, Okay, this may seem acceptable, 341 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:39.920 but let me let me promise you it's not right. 342 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:42.799 That's right, yep. Yeah. And I just brought that up, 343 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:44.720 the fact that he's talking to his son and that 344 00:17:44.759 --> 00:17:47.079 there are bad men out there too, because every once 345 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:49.160 in a while I'll hear somebody say that, you know, 346 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:53.960 the Book of Proverbs is a really sexist, right book. 347 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:56.079 But I would just point out a dad talking to 348 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:59.240 his son this is not unreasonable. No, no, in the 349 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:01.640 same way that a mother talking to her daughter saying hey, 350 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:03.240 watch out this bad man out there. It's the same, 351 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:10.400 but the warnings are it's as dangerous as falling into 352 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:13.039 a narrow well well and there you can't you can 353 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:15.440 get stuck, you can't get out the thing. You're gonna 354 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:19.839 die in this situation. And then often I was thinking. 355 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:21.640 Narrow well would be easier if you if you can 356 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:22.720 climb up, if it's that. 357 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:25.599 Narrow, unless you were stuck like it, couldn't move your 358 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:26.160 arms at all. 359 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:28.039 Yeah, well you know that's a pretty narrow well. 360 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:31.119 Well yeah, how narrow is narrow? Chris? 361 00:18:31.279 --> 00:18:33.400 Yeah, yeah, well yeah, yeah yeah. 362 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:36.039 But it says she hides and waits like a robber, 363 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:39.680 eager to make more men unfaithful. It's amazing how often 364 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:44.079 those temptation things are are, so they sneak up on 365 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.160 you and next thing you know, this vice just takes 366 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:49.200 over your life that you never planned on. You didn't 367 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:51.480 You thought you were okay, You were okay the first 368 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:52.839 three or four times, and then all of a sudden 369 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:55.720 it starts to take over or whatever. That's that idea 370 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:58.279 that you know, all these kinds of sins tend to 371 00:18:58.359 --> 00:19:02.000 hide and wait like a row and they're eager to 372 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:04.279 ruin our lives, and so that's that's a big part 373 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:07.519 of it. And then he pivots from that into alcohol, right, yeah, 374 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:10.680 which is a big one, especially particularly what he's talking 375 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:15.480 about drunkenness here. But they're funny phrases. Who has anguish, 376 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:20.480 who has sorrow, who's always fighting, who's always complaining? Who 377 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:25.880 has unnecessary bruises? Who has bloodshot eyes? Right? I remember 378 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:28.359 when I was working in Chicago, we had a guy 379 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:32.480 that lived on the street, totally consumed by alcohol, and 380 00:19:32.519 --> 00:19:36.880 he was constantly complaining about stuff. He was constantly you know, 381 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:39.880 stumbling around, always looking for a fight, ready to fight 382 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:41.799 you for no reason. Right you ever, you ever kind 383 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:43.400 of just walked down the street. Yes, this guy is 384 00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:46.039 just kind of out of his mind kind of thing. 385 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:49.480 The descriptions. You know, he's writing to his son again, 386 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:52.160 and what he's saying is, Hey, this is what happens. 387 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:54.720 You see that kind of guy. And you know, one 388 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:57.279 of the things that I feel like my parents did. 389 00:19:57.359 --> 00:19:59.519 We went to church in the city of Flint, which 390 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:01.440 you know, at the time was a pretty rough matter 391 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:04.799 of fact, Flint was back in the eighties, the one 392 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:07.200 of the murder capitals of the US. Yeah, there was 393 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:09.079 a lot of drugs, a lot of violence. It was 394 00:20:09.319 --> 00:20:12.359 always either Detroit, Flint, or Saint Louis, right with the 395 00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:15.880 three cities in Youngstown and Youngstown. Yeah, and uh. 396 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:20.319 So my parents, Hey, by the way, real quick, I'm 397 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:23.279 so sorry to interrupt you. Did you know that Youngstown 398 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:26.880 was so high on murder back when you always tell 399 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:29.359 those mafia stories, you know about people blowing people up 400 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:32.759 in the cars, h that it was actually Nicknawn murdered, 401 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:36.680