00;00;00;26 - 00;00;06;14 Mark Double, double, double what. 00;00;06;17 - 00;00;18;10 Sarah Is? Hey, maniac. 00;00;18;11 - 00;00;20;02 Mark Hey, maniacs. 00;00;20;05 - 00;00;22;11 Sarah Welcome to Mystery Maniacs. 00;00;22;13 - 00;00;38;27 Mark Mystery Maniacs is a comedy recap podcast dedicated to mystery TV. Every week we dig into an episode of the show, including the murders, the mayhem, the loonies, and everything else we love. This week, we're covering murder mysteries. Season two Episode two Snakes and Ladders. 00;00;39;04 - 00;00;39;19 Sarah Yes. 00;00;39;24 - 00;00;46;03 Mark If your children are old enough to play snakes and ladders, they're old enough to watch this episode and listen to this podcast. 00;00;46;06 - 00;00;58;07 Sarah If you're American, it's Chutes and Ladders Chutes. And because we don't like your snakes, we want slides. They're way more fun. We all the way down to degradation. 00;00;58;09 - 00;01;04;20 Mark Hey, if this podcast is kind of amazing this week since, boy, have we had some weather. 00;01;04;20 - 00;01;14;03 Sarah Yeah, I'm really, really glad we're recording almost on schedule because we have been without internet and or without power at least once a day for the last five days. 00;01;14;04 - 00;01;20;20 Mark Yes, our children are clinically insane. Oh, my. Maybe we should put them in giant pack tubs and push their heads down. 00;01;20;24 - 00;01;22;16 Mark Yes. 00;01;22;19 - 00;01;34;08 Sarah It's like Dr. Roberts doesn't episode. It's amazing how we all kind of forget how to entertain ourselves when we have no Internet. Everybody is just sitting around staring at each other like entertain me. 00;01;34;10 - 00;01;39;22 Mark The other night I was like, I don't want to talk to the children anymore. So I was like, Let's talk about your futures. 00;01;39;22 - 00;01;40;26 Sarah And they all just disappeared. 00;01;40;26 - 00;01;44;24 Mark They all just disappeared. I didn't really want to talk about them. 00;01;44;24 - 00;01;47;17 Sarah No. You just wanted them to go away and entertain themselves somewhere else. 00;01;47;18 - 00;01;59;04 Mark Yes. So merch sales right now are going to Partners in Health, which is building a hospital in Sierra Leone for maternal health crisis. That is their great cause. Please keep buying. 00;01;59;04 - 00;02;18;12 Sarah Stuff. Go buy a T-shirt. Yep. Also, one other just quick announcement. We do have some events coming up, some live events and some trivia events. Those dates will be in the newsletter that comes out this Wednesday. Yep. So here, subscribe to it. Take a look at it. It's going to be big. If you're not subscribed to it, you should go subscribe to it. 00;02;18;12 - 00;02;24;13 Sarah If not, go and keep an eye on the socials after Wednesday and you'll see some announcements there too. 00;02;24;14 - 00;02;33;19 Mark Also, busy, busy month for Marky Mark and his funky bunch. I'm probably going to do a Kickstarter this month, so you'll have to hear about that from my comic company. 00;02;33;19 - 00;02;35;02 Sarah So only a little. 00;02;35;03 - 00;02;41;27 Mark It is only a little, but I think this book more than the other book, is a great gift for a granddaughter or a grandson. 00;02;41;29 - 00;02;42;10 Sarah Maybe. 00;02;42;14 - 00;02;42;25 Mark Maybe. 00;02;42;27 - 00;02;44;15 Sarah Oh, by the way, Happy Canada Day. 00;02;44;16 - 00;02;51;00 Mark Thank you very much. And happy Independence Day for us. Independence Day. 00;02;51;03 - 00;02;52;12 Sarah Happy Independence Day. 00;02;52;12 - 00;02;58;15 Mark Well, we still have the queen and everything, but no, the king of all the queen anymore. 00;02;58;18 - 00;03;03;22 Sarah So they're coming to get you now. Yeah. You can't make that kind of mistake and stay in the monarchy. 00;03;03;26 - 00;03;17;11 Mark February 10th, 2009. This was originally broadcast. Now, so, Fred, man directed this. He also directed Power and the Belly Speaker. Mm hmm. And I think power, he had no idea what he was doing. 00;03;17;18 - 00;03;18;21 Sarah Nobody did. 00;03;18;23 - 00;03;27;00 Mark They're trying to figure out. Belly speaker. They were almost there. He got the brief this time. Yeah. This is a whack a doodle murdoch episode. 00;03;27;01 - 00;03;33;22 Sarah It is. It's got fun. It's got murders and grisly bits. And. Yeah, Personality written. 00;03;33;22 - 00;03;42;09 Mark By Karl Coombs. So the cold open is straight out of a hammer horror movie. It's dark street. There's a lonely woman. There's a carriage that drives up. 00;03;42;13 - 00;03;44;16 Sarah Why aren't these street lights on? 00;03;44;19 - 00;03;45;26 Mark It's late at night. 00;03;46;00 - 00;03;52;25 Sarah That's when you need them the most. They should be on. Yeah. You know. 00;03;52;27 - 00;03;56;28 Mark This is one of those weird carriages where you ride inside of it and drive. 00;03;57;00 - 00;04;00;23 Sarah Oh, so he's sitting on the little couch inside with the reins in his hand? 00;04;00;24 - 00;04;03;18 Mark Yes, because there's a big open space front. 00;04;03;18 - 00;04;07;07 Sarah Open? Yeah. It's got blood red curtains in the windows. 00;04;07;10 - 00;04;10;06 Mark In that great step there falls down that. 00;04;10;09 - 00;04;11;11 Mark Plank. 00;04;11;14 - 00;04;13;13 Mark Come on. 00;04;13;15 - 00;04;25;02 Sarah But that's the equivalent of pulling up next to somebody and leaning over and opening the door, the car door. Get in. That's. No, don't get in. You're showing me you're from Scotland Yard. What does that mean to me? Yeah, nothing. 00;04;25;05 - 00;04;25;15 Mark Yeah. 00;04;25;22 - 00;04;34;15 Sarah We're not in England. Nothing. I'm not getting in. I no way, no how. But the first girl, Muffet, she has been a prostitute in the past. Yeah. So she's more likely to get in, I guess. 00;04;34;16 - 00;04;35;21 Mark I guess so. 00;04;35;23 - 00;04;38;14 Sarah But then Murdoch has son in a box. 00;04;38;14 - 00;04;42;21 Mark Son in a box? He's step one. Put his son in the box. 00;04;42;21 - 00;04;45;09 Sarah He invents a UV light. 00;04;45;10 - 00;04;45;28 Mark Yes. 00;04;46;05 - 00;04;50;21 Sarah As one of his many like you did. Right. So what? 00;04;50;23 - 00;05;03;17 Mark The rowing club murders had some floppy, phosphorescent, glowing grain. I think it was. Yeah, I remember. Right. Yeah. Or dirt or something. And he's. 00;05;03;19 - 00;05;05;14 Sarah It was drawings of some sort. 00;05;05;16 - 00;05;11;09 Mark He is extrapolated from that, that if you put the sun in the box, you can see my fingernails. 00;05;11;10 - 00;05;17;22 Sarah Thing is that lots of things glow under black light. Ah, UV light. Yeah. A lot of things. Not just blood. 00;05;17;24 - 00;05;22;09 Mark Blood does not. And so it would come across as very black. 00;05;22;10 - 00;05;25;05 Sarah Yeah, I'm just saying that sort of catch up. 00;05;25;09 - 00;05;25;29 Mark Well. 00;05;26;02 - 00;05;28;16 Mark Yeah. You know. 00;05;28;21 - 00;05;29;21 Sarah Somebody had a bunch of hot. 00;05;29;21 - 00;05;30;10 Mark Dogs and. 00;05;30;12 - 00;05;30;24 Sarah Catch. 00;05;30;25 - 00;05;33;03 Mark Up. Hasn't been invented yet. 00;05;33;06 - 00;05;33;22 Mark That's not. 00;05;33;22 - 00;05;35;29 Sarah True. They had tomato sauce, I guess. 00;05;36;01 - 00;05;39;08 Mark Two tickets for the dinosaur thing. Sure. 00;05;39;08 - 00;05;40;02 Sarah It's the dino. 00;05;40;02 - 00;05;41;10 Mark Ball. The dino ball. 00;05;41;10 - 00;05;43;11 Sarah That's what I'm calling it. It's the dinosaur ball. 00;05;43;12 - 00;05;45;08 Mark Which is what we get to see next week. 00;05;45;10 - 00;05;57;15 Sarah The dino ball, the dino ball. It's true. That's true. I guess I can't decide whether I'm surprised that Murdock doesn't know how to dance. He went to a Jesuit school where they would not have focused on those kinds of things. 00;05;57;15 - 00;05;59;22 Mark I think he's just trying to. 00;05;59;29 - 00;06;02;29 Sarah He wants to be sure he. And he can impress Julia. Yeah. 00;06;03;02 - 00;06;16;21 Mark He knows that Julia is richer than him, so he doesn't want to. He wants to appear prepared and like this is a big thing for him. This is really his first date. Yeah, since his fiancee. 00;06;16;23 - 00;06;21;03 Sarah But Julia should know how to dance. Julia should call in shenanigans. 00;06;21;03 - 00;06;23;10 Mark She absolutely should know how to dance. 00;06;23;10 - 00;06;40;13 Sarah Yeah, she was raised wealthy. She has a younger sister. They both would have been taught how to dance even if she didn't buy into the whole, you know, debutante thing that people of her class might have. I think she would have learned the basics of dance. I think she would have been expected to go to some parties in her teenage years. 00;06;40;13 - 00;06;45;06 Mark I would think so. I think they even make reference to that when her sister shows up in two episodes. 00;06;45;07 - 00;06;46;23 Sarah Yeah. Then we get a body. 00;06;46;24 - 00;06;48;19 Mark We get a body that's been gutted. 00;06;48;23 - 00;06;50;15 Sarah Little Miss Moffat. 00;06;50;17 - 00;06;55;01 Mark Alberta Moffat has been gutted. Did you know that your first name is a province. 00;06;55;05 - 00;06;57;15 Sarah That's the pattern. 00;06;57;17 - 00;06;58;02 Mark She does. 00;06;58;02 - 00;07;06;29 Sarah She should've known it when Quebec Johnson was killed. Some poor kid going fishing. Found something he wasn't looking. 00;07;06;29 - 00;07;08;07 Mark Saskatchewan. John? 00;07;08;08 - 00;07;11;08 Mark Yeah. 00;07;11;10 - 00;07;13;18 Mark Poor Prince Edward Island. Wilson. 00;07;13;24 - 00;07;23;18 Sarah We finally figure it out when none of it. Rogers was found dead. Oh, How many Nunavut women are there? 00;07;23;20 - 00;07;27;23 Mark These are the twins, Newfoundland and Labrador. 00;07;27;26 - 00;07;34;09 Sarah None of them got a better name than the other one. Yeah. So Alberta muffin has been gutted. Very similar. Nice Jackson. 00;07;34;09 - 00;07;41;05 Mark Really nice to be here. But I have a problem with this entire scene. But did you know something about the writing? 00;07;41;07 - 00;07;45;29 Sarah So first look, it says Try to stop me in blood on the other side of the fence. 00;07;45;29 - 00;07;58;28 Mark On the other side of the fence, way down at the ground. Do you lie under the fence to do this? Okay. Did you also bring a stencil? Because, boy, the letters are perfect. The next one is clearly written in blood. Okay, This. 00;07;58;28 - 00;08;16;26 Sarah One is too. Okay. So he puts her on some hay bales on one side of the path. The rock is on the other side of the path. So he had to. He murdered her in the carriage. Right. Okay. So he dumps her body and then dips his fingers in her guts, goes over, writes one letter on the rock, comes back, dips his fingers again. 00;08;16;26 - 00;08;18;06 Sarah You're right. You're right. 00;08;18;09 - 00;08;24;08 Mark You're missing an important part. He had to put the stencil on the rock first. 00;08;24;10 - 00;08;27;17 Sarah But nobody noticed him going back and forth between a bystander. 00;08;27;19 - 00;08;31;05 Mark He lost out because the only way you can do it is if you lie down. 00;08;31;12 - 00;08;35;12 Sarah Because it's so low to the ground. Well, maybe he picked it up. Maybe he's much stronger than you think. 00;08;35;13 - 00;08;36;27 Mark Maybe he's just crawling back and. 00;08;36;27 - 00;08;38;01 Mark Forth. 00;08;38;04 - 00;08;38;27 Mark With the stance. 00;08;38;29 - 00;08;40;06 Sarah And nobody notice. 00;08;40;09 - 00;08;43;08 Mark It was impressive. His registration was quite well. 00;08;43;09 - 00;08;51;24 Sarah Good. Maybe he put the centerline and then he just, like, squelched your guts up against the rock one time, like a big stamp. And then later over there. 00;08;51;27 - 00;09;00;16 Mark That would work. Maybe. Human stand. Yeah, I could see that. You're just like, I don't have time for this. I'm Edward Scarlett. 00;09;00;18 - 00;09;02;28 Sarah Scanlon. Scanlon of Scotland Yard. 00;09;03;02 - 00;09;03;13 Mark Yeah. 00;09;03;14 - 00;09;10;25 Sarah Okay, so I'm not showing you any ID or any evidence of who I am. Just take me at my word because I have an accent. 00;09;10;26 - 00;09;15;00 Mark The incredible conceit is, Oh, he's a British person. He can't be lying. 00;09;15;00 - 00;09;17;20 Mark Right? 00;09;17;23 - 00;09;19;23 Sarah There's lots of British people in Canada. 00;09;19;25 - 00;09;21;23 Mark But God forbid he was Irish. 00;09;21;25 - 00;09;22;18 Mark Oh. 00;09;22;20 - 00;09;25;23 Sarah Liar. Pants on fire. Yes, I love it. 00;09;25;26 - 00;09;29;15 Mark He'll kill again. Wow. Okay. Really, really. 00;09;29;17 - 00;09;55;01 Sarah Genius Bracken. And comes out his Scanlon shoves his way through the constables. How dare you touch me? Get off me and Bracken Reed, Inspector Thomas Bracken Reed of the Toronto Constabulary and whips his jacket open to show his badge. Now, more professions should be able to do that. I should be able to go. Doctor Sarah Smith Robins, Podcaster, Web designer. 00;09;55;03 - 00;09;55;16 Sarah Here's my. 00;09;55;16 - 00;09;58;28 Mark Bed. I meet ComicBook. 00;09;59;01 - 00;10;01;07 Sarah I don't think that would be as effective though. 00;10;01;09 - 00;10;04;08 Mark Have you ever had a badge or anything in any job? 00;10;04;09 - 00;10;05;16 Sarah I have a swipe card. 00;10;05;17 - 00;10;09;03 Mark Yeah, I have a name. I've like had a name badge, but that's. 00;10;09;06 - 00;10;14;09 Sarah When I was a crossing guard in elementary school. I had a badge. Oh, it was silver. 00;10;14;14 - 00;10;14;29 Mark Wow. 00;10;15;00 - 00;10;16;01 Sarah It was shining. 00;10;16;03 - 00;10;18;11 Mark That's. That's more badge than I am. 00;10;18;11 - 00;10;27;09 Sarah I got to wear it on a little land thing that went. It went across your chest and around your waist that you were over your clothes. That was reflective. Made you look really important. 00;10;27;09 - 00;10;28;15 Mark Wow. 00;10;28;17 - 00;10;30;08 Sarah I kept more kids from getting run over. 00;10;30;09 - 00;10;32;06 Mark That's good. It's a good job. 00;10;32;13 - 00;10;38;05 Sarah It's important. They've got a sketch of Haaland or Gill. One name that's a bad name. 00;10;38;05 - 00;10;51;10 Mark Yeah, it is. And the Canadian Women's Council is mentioned here, formed in October 27th, 1893. So, yes, one of the oldest advocacy organizations in Canada, Lady Aberdeen. 00;10;51;12 - 00;10;52;23 Sarah Is it like the WPA. 00;10;53;00 - 00;10;55;14 Mark Kind of was elected this president? 00;10;55;15 - 00;11;01;01 Sarah Not not the Works program administration? No, the Women's Institute. Yeah. But it's a little. 00;11;01;01 - 00;11;05;13 Mark More centered on like actually getting some rights then. 00;11;05;13 - 00;11;07;02 Sarah Gotcha. Then making. 00;11;07;08 - 00;11;08;12 Mark Institute. 00;11;08;14 - 00;11;26;27 Sarah So Scanlon says that he tracked Orgel to Canada. Yeah. We are going to spoil this, by the way. Yes. That he tracked Oracle to Canada because of one cutting from a newspaper that mentioned this Canadian women's group. And that's how he knew he was going to Canada. Yes, well, because him. 00;11;26;29 - 00;11;28;13 Mark Suppose he knew he. 00;11;28;13 - 00;11;40;25 Sarah Was going to Canada, but he's got this sketch of Orgel. Yeah, it looks to save you. He's a maniac. He's a maniac on the floor dancing like he's never danced like. 00;11;40;28 - 00;11;41;05 Mark They. 00;11;41;05 - 00;11;47;20 Sarah Should. They should have made the sketch and made him look evil. Like, give him, like, pointy eyebrows in my hair. 00;11;47;26 - 00;11;51;04 Mark He should look totally nothing like a cargo. 00;11;51;05 - 00;12;01;25 Sarah Well, but he doesn't. He doesn't look like Scanlon's. Yeah, or Gal doesn't. He's been chasing him for 14 months. Three weeks and four days. Yeah, and 2 hours and 52 minutes. 00;12;01;25 - 00;12;03;26 Mark Ugly everyday. 00;12;03;29 - 00;12;05;04 Sarah That's where Bracken. 00;12;05;07 - 00;12;06;10 Mark Says, like. 00;12;06;17 - 00;12;08;05 Sarah Oh, it's quite a while. 00;12;08;13 - 00;12;11;11 Mark And we tried to figure out what that would mean. Maybe. 00;12;11;11 - 00;12;37;25 Sarah I think it's a reference to March of 1895, which was a good six years after the last Jack the Ripper killing, but there was a murder in spittle fields in England and then that was very similar to Jack the Ripper. The M.O. was very similar. I think they're kind of winking at that, like maybe that was his first murder in England, and then he killed seven more people and then fled to Cairo and then Bombay. 00;12;38;01 - 00;12;55;05 Mark Well, wait a minute, Sarah. I have to go insane Over board game. He has a note from out of nowhere. He goes crazy. Like, as soon as that happened, every black Scotland Yard. What do you notice, dude? Because he's kind of crazy. 00;12;55;05 - 00;12;59;15 Sarah I have in my notes checkers tantrum. 00;12;59;17 - 00;12;59;29 Mark But. 00;13;00;06 - 00;13;24;07 Sarah Okay, so Scanlon is the murderer, right? He is. Or girl and he's killed 25 people now. Has not been caught. Now he killed the one detective who was actually on his trail. Yes. So if he's upset with the police for not catching him, he can't exactly blame the real Scanlon because he killed him. Well, you didn't catch me because I killed you. 00;13;24;07 - 00;13;25;07 Mark Well, and darn. 00;13;25;07 - 00;13;25;22 Sarah You, the. 00;13;25;22 - 00;13;36;23 Mark Whole idea is that he is Jekyll and Hyde, right? That he has this good personality and a bad personality. And we see some of his bad personality here, and then never again. 00;13;36;25 - 00;13;50;06 Sarah Well, he wants to be caught. He wants to be stopped. It's like killing is a compulsion and he can't help himself. So he wants somebody to catch him, but not so much that he's going to just tell them he's the killer. Right? That would be easy. 00;13;50;06 - 00;13;50;21 Mark He wants. 00;13;50;21 - 00;13;58;11 Sarah To play. So when he sees people playing checkers, he's like, Darn you, you should be trying to catch me. Yeah. Standing right here next to you. 00;13;58;17 - 00;13;59;02 Mark Yes. 00;13;59;02 - 00;14;07;02 Sarah But then he buys them snakes and ladders as an apology, like he broke their checkers board. But he didn't. He just dumped it on the floor. It's not. 00;14;07;04 - 00;14;08;17 Mark He just upset the table. 00;14;08;17 - 00;14;10;02 Sarah Yeah, They can still play checkers. 00;14;10;05 - 00;14;10;16 Mark Yeah. 00;14;10;21 - 00;14;16;15 Sarah Anyhow, obviously there's not much crime going on because Murdoch's building sun in a box, so. 00;14;16;18 - 00;14;17;06 Mark I'd also. 00;14;17;11 - 00;14;18;09 Sarah Be too busy. 00;14;18;11 - 00;14;22;15 Mark What are you doing, Deuce? But maybe not throw a tantrum. 00;14;22;17 - 00;14;24;23 Sarah Oh, they don't know who he is. Why would they listen to him? 00;14;24;25 - 00;14;27;07 Mark Season two City shot. 00;14;27;09 - 00;14;28;01 Sarah It's better. 00;14;28;02 - 00;14;29;04 Mark It's much better. 00;14;29;08 - 00;14;29;18 Sarah Yeah. 00;14;29;18 - 00;14;41;15 Mark It actually looks like a place. So we go see the victim's mother who had to go all the way to Coburg from Grafton. Seven and a half miles. That would have been. That's quite a bit. 00;14;41;15 - 00;14;44;15 Sarah If you have to walk. Yeah, if you're driving. 00;14;44;15 - 00;14;51;28 Mark Well in Coburg, be 25 miles I think to Toronto like probably get a train but any distance. 00;14;51;28 - 00;14;54;28 Sarah Yeah. Is long when you just found out your kids dead. 00;14;55;06 - 00;14;55;27 Mark Yes. 00;14;56;00 - 00;14;57;08 Sarah Right. It's really far. 00;14;57;08 - 00;14;57;28 Mark That's true. 00;14;58;02 - 00;15;04;03 Sarah But on a lighter note, Mrs. Moffet Mills is her name is played by Wendy Lyon. 00;15;04;07 - 00;15;04;25 Mark Okay. 00;15;04;27 - 00;15;09;22 Sarah Best known for her role in Hello, Mary Lou Prom night two. 00;15;09;23 - 00;15;10;19 Mark I've seen that. 00;15;10;22 - 00;15;11;22 Sarah Or she plays. 00;15;11;22 - 00;15;12;10 Mark Yes. 00;15;12;13 - 00;15;18;14 Sarah Not the killer, but a killer. A killer in a sequined prom dress in the eighties. 00;15;18;21 - 00;15;19;03 Mark Yes. 00;15;19;10 - 00;15;19;20 Sarah Yeah. 00;15;19;21 - 00;15;20;16 Mark Yes. In that movie. 00;15;20;23 - 00;15;28;03 Sarah Yeah. It's quite the quite the contrast between that role and this one prom night to murder Boogaloo. 00;15;28;06 - 00;15;29;15 Mark Murder boogaloo. 00;15;29;18 - 00;15;38;07 Sarah She admits that though Alberta's job was in a laundry, she also was a prostitute because they were very poor. 00;15;38;07 - 00;15;39;23 Mark She doesn't do that anymore. 00;15;39;26 - 00;16;01;18 Sarah Not anymore. She washes underwear for a living until late into the night. I guess she turns to the only board game I could find from the 1890s that I thought was interesting. A lot of them are very familiar and and Snakes and Ladders was actually quite old at this time, but had just been introduced in the UK to Canada. 00;16;01;24 - 00;16;09;22 Sarah Yeah, it's from India. From India and they had been around for a long time but I found one called Spirit Cans which I just think it's a great name. 00;16;09;22 - 00;16;12;06 Mark For a name. No kids. 00;16;12;08 - 00;16;13;28 Sarah Do you want to guess what Spill it cans. 00;16;13;28 - 00;16;22;06 Mark Is is it like one of those games like Kerplunk where you have to like it's like a balance dexterity game? 00;16;22;06 - 00;16;24;13 Sarah Sort of. It's pick up sticks. Yeah. 00;16;24;15 - 00;16;25;03 Mark Yeah. Okay. 00;16;25;08 - 00;16;28;12 Sarah So yeah, let's play game and spill again. 00;16;28;15 - 00;16;36;15 Mark Did you know that snakes and ladders may be the origin of the phrase back to square one? No, it makes sense. 00;16;36;17 - 00;16;37;20 Sarah It does make sense. 00;16;37;20 - 00;16;41;01 Mark Yeah. I thought goes for it. Do you think of snakes and ladders? Have you ever. 00;16;41;01 - 00;16;43;25 Sarah Actually I think it has no skill. 00;16;43;27 - 00;16;44;20 Mark It has no. 00;16;44;21 - 00;16;50;22 Sarah I've never played snakes and ladders. I have played chutes and ladders and there's no skill. So then so that annoys me. 00;16;50;22 - 00;17;00;09 Mark This is the problem I have with this game. It is supposedly a moralistic game showing you the choices that you make that are bad. 00;17;00;13 - 00;17;01;18 Sarah Have consequences. 00;17;01;19 - 00;17;02;18 Mark Ruin and conflict. 00;17;02;19 - 00;17;06;23 Sarah But you make no choices while playing. The game is just dice. 00;17;06;23 - 00;17;27;23 Mark No choices during the game and you are really. Fate is capricious to you. And if you ever want to read the most boring paragraph ever written, there's a paragraph on the mathematics of Snakes and Ladders on the Wikipedia page. Boy, I read the whole thing. 00;17;27;25 - 00;17;28;14 Sarah Sorry. 00;17;28;20 - 00;17;34;12 Mark I was like, Wow. I was. I was like grasping at straws, going, There's got to be something interesting about. 00;17;34;12 - 00;17;35;00 Sarah No. 00;17;35;06 - 00;17;38;00 Mark No, no, not an interesting thing. 00;17;38;02 - 00;17;42;23 Sarah It's boring. Murdoch goes for dance classes. This isn't boring. 00;17;42;23 - 00;17;44;25 Mark Well, I have a question before this. 00;17;44;25 - 00;17;45;07 Sarah Okay. 00;17;45;09 - 00;17;55;06 Mark Before the dance classic, Murdoch says we're going to catch this man. Okay. I don't think Murdoch knows now, but I think he knows earlier than he lets on that. 00;17;55;06 - 00;18;03;16 Sarah Scanlon is the killer. Yeah, okay. When we get to the point where you think he knows, you say yes, because I agree. And I wonder if it's the same point. 00;18;03;16 - 00;18;06;08 Mark I thought that we would compare the points. 00;18;06;09 - 00;18;07;02 Sarah Yes. 00;18;07;04 - 00;18;10;18 Mark Okay. Like there's a point certainly of no return where he knows. 00;18;10;18 - 00;18;15;04 Sarah Yeah, you tell me when you're standing on, alarm goes off then. Okay. And I'll tell you where mine went off. 00;18;15;10 - 00;18;17;19 Mark Meanwhile, there's another murder while there's dance class. 00;18;17;23 - 00;18;20;02 Sarah Led by Professor Otranto. 00;18;20;08 - 00;18;21;01 Mark Trudell. 00;18;21;01 - 00;18;22;02 Sarah He's a professor. 00;18;22;06 - 00;18;26;08 Mark Yeah, I don't. He's fantastic. First of all, the actors. Fantastic. 00;18;26;09 - 00;18;32;22 Sarah It's Conrad Dun. Yeah. He was in stripes with Bill Murray and John Candy. Oh, such is a pretty big role. 00;18;32;23 - 00;18;36;29 Mark Such a good movie. That is problematic. It is now, yeah. 00;18;37;04 - 00;18;38;24 Sarah Yeah. 00;18;38;26 - 00;18;52;10 Mark But it's when you're when you're an adult and you watch a movie where Bill Murray is a layabout who can't get a job or keep a girlfriend, you're like, You're not dating my daughter. 00;18;52;13 - 00;18;57;11 Sarah When you're younger and you're his his age. In the movie, you're like, Hey, leave a layabout. 00;18;57;11 - 00;18;59;18 Mark He's just trying, man. 00;18;59;20 - 00;19;04;17 Sarah But when you're older, you're like, that Damn straight, you're not dating my daughter now. 00;19;04;19 - 00;19;05;14 Mark Right away. 00;19;05;14 - 00;19;12;29 Sarah Easy, jerk. But professor at Toronto is like snapping his fingers like, Maria, come dance with this man. 00;19;12;29 - 00;19;15;23 Mark Assume the position. 00;19;15;25 - 00;19;18;04 Mark And Burke has no idea. 00;19;18;09 - 00;19;22;15 Mark Now, Dad, I love how scenery here. 00;19;22;21 - 00;19;28;12 Sarah We have to see how bad you are. Yeah, you know. Know how much? He's like. Oh, there's so much work. 00;19;28;16 - 00;19;34;09 Mark Mature. But that. That was what's missing from season one. 00;19;34;09 - 00;19;45;03 Sarah Yeah, we need that. Like comic relief in this episode because people are getting gutted and you need to giggle every once in a while. 00;19;45;03 - 00;19;48;04 Mark You know what the problem with the second crime scene is? 00;19;48;06 - 00;19;51;12 Sarah He apparently shows up but doesn't need to mess. 00;19;51;20 - 00;19;52;09 Mark You forgot his. 00;19;52;10 - 00;19;53;00 Mark Stencil. 00;19;53;04 - 00;19;58;29 Sarah Oh, he had a free hand at the time and free in the gazebo galore. 00;19;59;00 - 00;20;01;11 Mark Gloria Abercrombie from a Really. Yeah. 00;20;01;18 - 00;20;02;07 Mark Mhm. 00;20;02;10 - 00;20;08;27 Mark So she's a seamstress YMCA audibles on the prowl and he visited her. 00;20;09;03 - 00;20;13;08 Sarah Her name should be Victoria Abercrombie or B.C.. 00;20;13;11 - 00;20;15;13 Mark British Columbia Abercrombie. 00;20;15;17 - 00;20;17;15 Sarah It's quite the name. 00;20;17;17 - 00;20;19;06 Mark Do you know where that comes from? 00;20;19;10 - 00;20;19;22 Sarah No. 00;20;19;23 - 00;20;25;05 Mark The Latin of Vivus and Seco sixtieths cut. 00;20;25;06 - 00;20;26;24 Sarah Right or separate. 00;20;26;27 - 00;20;28;27 Mark Yep. And you know what Vivus is. 00;20;29;00 - 00;20;29;12 Sarah Cut. 00;20;29;19 - 00;20;30;20 Mark Alive. 00;20;30;22 - 00;20;32;02 Sarah Oh that's right. 00;20;32;05 - 00;20;34;00 Mark A live cutting is. 00;20;34;03 - 00;20;49;00 Sarah That's right because vivisection is when you because vs Yeah. So it's when you cut something apart while it's still alive. Yeah. As opposed to what's the opposite of it's not necro section it's. 00;20;49;02 - 00;20;49;13 Mark So. 00;20;49;20 - 00;20;53;06 Mark I don't know I'm a little grossed out by what we're done. 00;20;53;08 - 00;21;06;29 Sarah Well when you postmortem an autopsy. Yeah. Is a neck resection. Yes, but I don't think that's the right word. It's the opposite of vivisection. I don't know. Well, Google it. You got a computer in front of you? 00;21;07;01 - 00;21;08;28 Mark Sorry. 00;21;09;00 - 00;21;14;25 Sarah This is behind the scenes here. I've just got paper and pencil in front of me. He's got a computer in front of him. 00;21;14;27 - 00;21;22;11 Mark By the way. That's going to be the last thing that goes on the episode. It's just Google it. You've got a computer in front of you. 00;21;22;12 - 00;21;23;28 Sarah Go faster, faster. 00;21;24;01 - 00;21;31;12 Mark Get. Okay. Vivisection, antonyms. Mm hmm. Now, there's no word that's coming up is that. 00;21;31;13 - 00;21;32;29 Sarah Somebody is going to tell us a thousand. 00;21;32;29 - 00;21;34;20 Mark Times. 00;21;34;23 - 00;21;36;20 Sarah Google Necro section and see if that's a. 00;21;36;20 - 00;21;38;21 Mark Word. 00;21;38;23 - 00;21;40;27 Sarah Because Necro is dead. 00;21;41;00 - 00;21;41;16 Mark Be stark. 00;21;41;17 - 00;21;42;14 Sarah But one's Latin. 00;21;42;15 - 00;21;49;20 Mark One's glad we start another browser. 00;21;49;23 - 00;21;56;12 Sarah See, this is this. You're. You're seeing how the sausage is made here, folks. 00;21;56;15 - 00;21;59;12 Mark Oh. 00;21;59;14 - 00;22;03;15 Sarah It's usually me who does it bad. Google's. Is it a word? 00;22;03;18 - 00;22;08;22 Mark The first result is for pancreatic neck vasectomy. 00;22;08;26 - 00;22;10;17 Sarah So. So is it a word? 00;22;10;17 - 00;22;11;04 Mark No. 00;22;11;05 - 00;22;12;07 Sarah Oh, okay. 00;22;12;11 - 00;22;13;00 Mark Now. 00;22;13;06 - 00;22;13;21 Sarah Okay. 00;22;13;24 - 00;22;19;21 Mark Okay. Get a little throw up. 00;22;19;23 - 00;22;21;19 Sarah We'll just call it an autopsy. 00;22;21;22 - 00;22;22;16 Mark There we go. 00;22;22;21 - 00;22;23;06 Sarah All right. 00;22;23;06 - 00;22;25;22 Mark Okay. I have a gigantic problem. 00;22;25;22 - 00;22;28;10 Sarah Hey, Julia has a goldfish. Okay? Is that. 00;22;28;10 - 00;22;30;16 Mark Better? No. Does that help? No, She's. 00;22;30;16 - 00;22;31;01 Sarah A goldfish. 00;22;31;01 - 00;22;36;29 Mark Because of what she says. Just bothers me. What? That her hymens intact? 00;22;37;04 - 00;22;41;05 Sarah It bothers Murdoch, too. And it shouldn't bother either of you because it's just a fact. 00;22;41;12 - 00;22;51;17 Mark No, it does. What? What bothers me is I don't like any notions of virginity because I see it as a social contract. 00;22;51;20 - 00;22;59;23 Sarah But it's evidence she hasn't been raped yet. That's why she's mentioning it. And see, really the only evidence other than additional things that she could find. 00;22;59;24 - 00;23;01;06 Mark Yeah, but it's just. 00;23;01;09 - 00;23;02;08 Sarah She's I don't think. 00;23;02;13 - 00;23;05;16 Mark You I don't think in 2023 they would say that. 00;23;05;19 - 00;23;06;18 Sarah Oh I think they would. 00;23;06;19 - 00;23;07;24 Mark No, I don't think so. 00;23;07;25 - 00;23;12;17 Sarah Yeah. No, unfortunately I was trying to lighten the mood here. Oh get section. 00;23;12;20 - 00;23;13;19 Mark Goldfish. 00;23;13;22 - 00;23;21;28 Sarah There's a goldfish in the morgue and we get a nice little shot of it. Living thing. Yeah. You're staying out in the morgue, along with the record playing. 00;23;21;28 - 00;23;30;24 Mark So we forgot to mention, in all the things we mentioned last week about how great this episode. Dr. Robert Doctor Roberts, he goes up. 00;23;30;27 - 00;23;32;08 Sarah He's an alienist. 00;23;32;08 - 00;23;34;15 Mark He is. He is fantastic. 00;23;34;15 - 00;23;36;13 Sarah So who Radical? 00;23;36;15 - 00;23;38;15 Mark Yes, he's. He's too radical. 00;23;38;15 - 00;23;42;11 Sarah He's so radical. He grabs women and steam baths by the chin. 00;23;42;11 - 00;23;44;19 Mark Oh, get there with it. 00;23;44;22 - 00;23;45;28 Sarah He got a clipboard. 00;23;45;28 - 00;23;49;19 Mark We have to deal with the over this dead body. I'd like to ask you out. 00;23;49;21 - 00;24;05;22 Sarah Oh, he. He's so Scanlan is so rude to Julia. He's having a little tantrum again. Yeah, but it's not like hour. I know, I know, I know. And she's like, Okay, I'm not even trying to argue with you. Yeah, I ever did. 00;24;05;22 - 00;24;10;10 Mark So we go to the doctor. Robert's place of business. 00;24;10;16 - 00;24;11;05 Mark Hmm. 00;24;11;10 - 00;24;12;23 Sarah And the incurable. 00;24;12;25 - 00;24;14;24 Mark The hydrotherapy area. 00;24;14;26 - 00;24;15;12 Sarah Mm hmm. 00;24;15;19 - 00;24;21;05 Mark And the notion of incurable goes completely against what he is doing. 00;24;21;12 - 00;24;23;29 Sarah Yeah, because he thinks they can be cured. 00;24;23;29 - 00;24;25;20 Mark And that is the whole. 00;24;25;24 - 00;24;27;05 Sarah That's the rational thing. 00;24;27;06 - 00;24;35;18 Mark The whole alienist mentality is that mental. That mental health can be fixed and improved. 00;24;35;21 - 00;24;47;13 Sarah And has a cause. Yeah, that's the key. Cause that can be remedied. Yes. Versus you're just broken. Yes. You're hysterical. Yes. Notice it's a lot of women in these tubs. 00;24;47;15 - 00;24;48;24 Mark Oh, my gosh. 00;24;48;27 - 00;24;54;10 Sarah You're hysterical. And you can't help it because it's just how you're made. 00;24;54;10 - 00;24;56;15 Mark He just grabs that woman by her. 00;24;56;17 - 00;25;01;02 Sarah She's got a long neck to begin with and he's like, Stretch Armstrong, rubber neck. 00;25;01;02 - 00;25;04;00 Mark And he's like, giraffe lady, get over here. 00;25;04;00 - 00;25;16;08 Sarah You're alive. Check. Next. She looks like she's having a seizure. He doesn't care about that. He's like, check. You're laced into your bathtub. Nice. Yeah, I. Oh, it does look kind of pleasant, though. Yeah, it looks like it. 00;25;16;08 - 00;25;17;02 Mark Was nice. 00;25;17;04 - 00;25;23;11 Sarah Pulling. I don't want anybody coming along and yanking my head, but, yeah, I think laying in a hot tub would feel kind of nice. 00;25;23;15 - 00;25;25;28 Mark I guess so. But still, it's mysterious. 00;25;26;01 - 00;25;34;20 Sarah It's probably. Yeah. And then we find out that the carriage that has picked these women up before they were murdered was stolen. 00;25;34;25 - 00;25;36;08 Mark Yeah, Some tampons. 00;25;36;13 - 00;25;39;29 Mark And they find it. And I need my son in the box. 00;25;40;03 - 00;25;45;00 Sarah Get the son in a box and a dark barn. It's a police barn, apparently. 00;25;45;05 - 00;25;51;00 Mark Yes. So he mentions Mr. Woods and Mitt here. Right. So I did some research on in. 00;25;51;00 - 00;25;53;13 Sarah What and what context. 00;25;53;16 - 00;25;54;05 Mark That he. 00;25;54;05 - 00;25;55;12 Sarah Murdoch mentions them. Yeah. 00;25;55;12 - 00;26;21;18 Mark He contacted Mr. Woods at MIT about his stuff in a box. Okay. There is light in a box. Absolutely true. Robert W Wood would have been. He was at Harvard and MIT at this time super smart dude. He worked with ultraviolet light and supersonic waves. First guy to take a picture of a soundwave dude. Super interesting guy in some respects. 00;26;21;18 - 00;26;25;12 Mark Other than that, boring is all boring. No crazy ideas. 00;26;25;12 - 00;26;27;27 Sarah No, just sound science. 00;26;27;27 - 00;26;37;28 Mark And when he was in undergrad and married her and stayed with her for his entire life, died in his sleep of No, not of no, no, no. 00;26;37;28 - 00;26;41;23 Sarah This and took Murdoch's calls apparently about the son in the box. 00;26;41;23 - 00;26;44;20 Mark Just the most boring human being. No, that's. 00;26;44;20 - 00;26;45;07 Sarah Okay. 00;26;45;10 - 00;26;46;14 Mark Yeah, he. 00;26;46;16 - 00;26;52;24 Sarah Came up with some good stuff. Yes. I see you busy doing solid science to be dramatic. 00;26;52;24 - 00;26;56;22 Mark And speaking of solids science, what kind of maniac am I? 00;26;56;22 - 00;26;58;04 Sarah I, I don't know. 00;26;58;04 - 00;27;05;10 Mark I'm the kind of maniac who pauses and looks at the map to make sure all the streets are labeled correctly. 00;27;05;12 - 00;27;11;25 Sarah And that doesn't make you a maniac. That makes you a nerd. 00;27;11;27 - 00;27;16;21 Mark What they don't have, which I wish they did. Okay, so this is because. 00;27;16;27 - 00;27;25;12 Sarah Because Murdoch has drawn the street plan on the chalkboard to show where the women were leaving from, where their bodies were found. 00;27;25;12 - 00;27;34;17 Mark This is right downtown Toronto, west of University. I know exactly where this is because I used to work and live in this neighborhood. 00;27;34;17 - 00;27;36;14 Sarah Maybe you're a suspect. 00;27;36;16 - 00;27;51;02 Mark Maybe. But what they missed out on is there is John Street. It doesn't go far enough north to be Queen Street, which is unfortunate because the headquarters of the people making this show at this point in time, the right queen and. 00;27;51;02 - 00;27;54;13 Sarah John Park, north of them, where the map stops. Yeah. 00;27;54;16 - 00;27;57;06 Mark They should have had a little ax or something. 00;27;57;09 - 00;27;58;08 Sarah That would have been clever. 00;27;58;08 - 00;28;01;14 Mark As a little, you know, hint to it. 00;28;01;14 - 00;28;23;24 Sarah But and they talk. So this is when they really talk about Jack the Ripper. Yes. And whether or Gill could be Jack the Ripper and he's clearly he's not. And they talk about how there were other well-established suspects at the time, but none of them were proven guilty. And they talk about Dr. Thomas Cream, who was Canadian, right? 00;28;23;24 - 00;28;25;27 Sarah Yes. But he was executed. 00;28;26;03 - 00;28;31;13 Mark He was executed, but he was in prison there in Illinois at the time of the Ripper. Murders. 00;28;31;17 - 00;28;32;21 Sarah For what? 00;28;32;24 - 00;28;36;17 Mark For trying to kill women. Oh, he was a poisoner also. 00;28;36;17 - 00;28;40;17 Sarah Okay. Now, why did they think that he could be Jack the Ripper then? 00;28;40;17 - 00;28;46;11 Mark Just because when he was executed, he said, I'm Jack the Oh. 00;28;46;13 - 00;28;47;15 Sarah And then dropped. 00;28;47;15 - 00;28;55;06 Mark Yes. Which is apocryphal. He didn't actually say it, but it was widely reported that he said that. 00;28;55;08 - 00;28;58;22 Sarah Now this has got me thinking of all the awful things you did there. 00;28;58;22 - 00;29;00;22 Mark Baker Yeah, well. 00;29;00;25 - 00;29;07;22 Sarah There's all the awful things you could kind of say, Like there's another body. You'll never find it. Yeah. Yeah. 00;29;07;24 - 00;29;11;01 Mark My $1 million is located. 00;29;11;03 - 00;29;12;24 Sarah On something like that. 00;29;12;27 - 00;29;20;12 Mark A couple of things. So. So they go over some popular theories about Jack the Ripper here. Yeah. Do you have a theory about Jack the Ripper? 00;29;20;18 - 00;29;21;01 Sarah No. 00;29;21;08 - 00;29;29;15 Mark You don't have any here. No, I. I may have been a bit of a Jack the Ripper person for a while and it would have been the early. 00;29;29;16 - 00;29;33;29 Sarah I mean, I'm aware of the predominant theories, but I don't have a favorite of those. 00;29;33;29 - 00;29;40;15 Mark In the early 2000, there was a comic book that came out called From Hell that Alan Moore wrote and was. 00;29;40;15 - 00;29;42;18 Sarah Later made into Andy Card. Johnny Depp. Yes. 00;29;42;18 - 00;29;51;21 Mark Eddie Campbell did the art, the the book. The comic is completely different than the movie, except for Dull is the the culprit in both case. 00;29;51;21 - 00;29;55;01 Sarah And both are very, very bloody. 00;29;55;03 - 00;30;04;22 Mark Yeah, incredibly, very gory and it is amazing what that story will do to people who try to delve into it and figure out who. 00;30;04;23 - 00;30;06;16 Sarah There are still new books coming out. 00;30;06;16 - 00;30;07;27 Mark Yeah, absolutely. 00;30;07;28 - 00;30;10;20 Sarah With supposedly new evidence. 00;30;10;22 - 00;30;24;02 Mark Yeah. We've watched another television show within the last five years in which Thomas Green appears, you know, looking at me like, What are you talking about? I am in river, which has scars guarding it. The oldest scars guard in it. 00;30;24;03 - 00;30;24;23 Sarah Yeah. 00;30;24;25 - 00;30;26;23 Mark Where he sees dead people. 00;30;26;23 - 00;30;27;05 Sarah Yeah. 00;30;27;05 - 00;30;30;00 Mark One of the dead people he sees is River. 00;30;30;00 - 00;30;31;15 Sarah Is Dr. Thomas Crane. 00;30;31;15 - 00;30;32;02 Mark Is Dr.. 00;30;32;02 - 00;30;36;21 Sarah Thomas. That's a really good show. If you guys haven't watched River watch it, it's really good. 00;30;36;21 - 00;30;42;23 Mark And actually, he is played by a well-known guy, Eddie Marsan, who was. 00;30;42;26 - 00;30;48;17 Sarah Wasn't he just in that that show about the guy who faked his death in a and a canoe? It was the truth. 00;30;48;18 - 00;30;59;07 Mark The man hit his wife in a canoe. He also plays Lestrade in the Sherlock Holmes with Iron Man, and he's been in a million things. 00;30;59;07 - 00;31;04;29 Sarah So long story short. ROBERTS Doctor Roberts basically comes up with a profile. 00;31;05;02 - 00;31;08;24 Mark Yes. Did you read his report? No, I did. 00;31;08;27 - 00;31;16;28 Sarah Of course you did. See, I don't because I know you're going to I know you're going to posit and you're going to put your face right up to your screen and read every word. 00;31;17;00 - 00;31;17;22 Mark I may have done. 00;31;17;22 - 00;31;19;11 Sarah Just that, so I don't bother. 00;31;19;13 - 00;31;23;16 Mark His report is titled Hooray for This Report. 00;31;23;18 - 00;31;25;01 Sarah Oh, that's a good name for it. 00;31;25;01 - 00;31;39;00 Mark Yes, it's for Inspector. It's for Murdoch. Detective Murdoch. It has the date on it. May 17th, 1896, which is why we know the date it's labeled report. And basically says exactly what his lines are in the previous scene. 00;31;39;01 - 00;31;44;02 Sarah Oh, well, that's good. Yes. So you can look at it and, you know, not have to memorize this line. 00;31;44;04 - 00;31;45;13 Mark You just read it. 00;31;45;15 - 00;32;01;01 Sarah I guess ultimately the whole idea is a Jekyll and Hyde is that this killer has a dark side and a light side, and that his dark side is the killer and his light side wants him to be caught. And but again, most likely not so much that he's going to just confess. 00;32;01;01 - 00;32;04;06 Mark Is some sort of maternal or sisterly abuse. 00;32;04;06 - 00;32;08;02 Sarah His mommy was mean to him or something anyway. So now. 00;32;08;05 - 00;32;09;25 Mark He has to tell eight women he. 00;32;09;25 - 00;32;16;10 Sarah Has to vivisection eight women because he's so into snakes and ladders and there's eight snakes. 00;32;16;17 - 00;32;21;03 Mark I guess, to get there. 00;32;21;06 - 00;32;21;25 Mark Yes. 00;32;21;27 - 00;32;24;27 Sarah So now, if I wanted to get under your skin, all I have to do is say vivisection. 00;32;24;27 - 00;32;25;22 Mark No, no, no, no. 00;32;25;24 - 00;32;28;14 Sarah For me, it's moist. Yeah, I hate that word. 00;32;28;20 - 00;32;30;28 Mark Round up the sexual deviant. 00;32;31;01 - 00;32;34;03 Sarah Moist vivisection. Yeah. Oh. 00;32;34;06 - 00;32;38;25 Mark Okay. So dance class number two includes Julia and ass grabbing. 00;32;38;28 - 00;32;41;10 Sarah Yeah, well, they almost fall down. 00;32;41;13 - 00;32;44;29 Mark Oh, look, we can flirt at dance class now instead of over dead body. 00;32;44;29 - 00;32;54;01 Sarah But the only time that they actually dance well is when they're talking about murders. Then they. Their mind is not on their feet and they're able to actually dance. 00;32;54;04 - 00;32;54;23 Mark Yes. 00;32;54;25 - 00;33;05;25 Sarah This is going to make the wedding really awkward. We can't dance unless we're talking about dead people. Let's go to the club, Julia. We can figure out who did it. 00;33;05;25 - 00;33;23;20 Mark Helene, Joy does a really good job of acting here. She. She knows that Murdock is uncomfortable and is trying to make him comfortable. And then he's like, Can we talk about the case? And she's like, Okay, this is going to make him more comfortable, and maybe he won't grab my ass as much. 00;33;23;26 - 00;33;25;05 Sarah Or stomp my feet. 00;33;25;07 - 00;33;30;10 Mark Or stomp on my feet. So let's talk about it and they do a great job. 00;33;30;12 - 00;33;37;14 Sarah Well, she's also interested to test thinks about. Meanwhile, BRAC and Reid and Scanlan are at the pub. Yes. 00;33;37;19 - 00;33;40;28 Mark And forget about poverty and dirt war and BRAC. 00;33;40;28 - 00;33;46;22 Sarah And Reid says that he has family back at home that he misses, including his parents and brother. 00;33;46;22 - 00;33;52;02 Mark He does. So Bracken Reid's brother, What do you think? Older brother? 00;33;52;03 - 00;33;53;19 Sarah We never meet and we don't know. 00;33;53;19 - 00;33;54;19 Mark No, we don't know. 00;33;54;22 - 00;33;59;09 Sarah I think his brother is older and bigger and rougher. 00;33;59;13 - 00;34;03;17 Mark You see, I think his brother's younger brother exactly like Crabtree here. 00;34;03;17 - 00;34;06;21 Sarah But he's got a little nerd brother. 00;34;06;27 - 00;34;14;25 Mark Well, what happens if it if it's Timmy, if it's a twin brother, there's two Bracken Stanton type. 00;34;15;00 - 00;34;21;11 Sarah There's a plot. Hey, writers, if you hear this and you decide to write an evil twin to Bracken read, we get credit. 00;34;21;11 - 00;34;24;01 Mark Yeah. 00;34;24;03 - 00;34;28;22 Sarah He's got to have a pointy mustache, you know, and, like, darker eyebrows or something. 00;34;28;26 - 00;34;42;03 Mark And we're going to get to this at the end. But Scanlon's like, here is a gigantic clue of how to catch me. Yeah, I'm like, I think Murdoch may know then. 00;34;42;06 - 00;34;50;18 Sarah Okay. You think when Scanlon mentions that she stayed at the W YWCA? Yeah, that that is him. That Murdoch is like, ha. 00;34;50;21 - 00;34;59;11 Mark No, Murdoch. I think Murdoch is like, that's a weird thing to say and I'm going to have some suspicions about you. Now. 00;34;59;11 - 00;35;17;00 Sarah See, I interpreted that as, Oh, I hadn't thought about that. That's good detective insight. I'm going to do I'm going to act on that information. So that's interesting. Well, they get a false suspect. Poor Maurice Bailey is just a peeping Tom. He just likes to look at the ladies. He doesn't do anything to them. 00;35;17;00 - 00;35;23;26 Mark So. Okay, so he's know he he deep and he he plays with himself. 00;35;23;28 - 00;35;25;04 Sarah On his own. 00;35;25;04 - 00;35;32;17 Mark Organism. This guy is a great actor. He shows up, eats the scenery for two scenes, and then is out. 00;35;32;22 - 00;35;35;18 Sarah Well, he does take Henry hostage in the. 00;35;35;18 - 00;35;38;23 Mark Cell, and. 00;35;38;23 - 00;35;42;02 Sarah Then Scanlon conveniently shoots him in the back. 00;35;42;07 - 00;35;44;18 Mark I'm not hanging for those whores. 00;35;44;20 - 00;35;54;12 Sarah No, Bay, you're going to die in the cell for them instead, like. Well, how convenient that you. You kill the suspect. Well, I guess that's all wrapped up. Yep. 00;35;54;12 - 00;35;55;23 Mark But Murdock's not happy. 00;35;55;25 - 00;36;01;22 Sarah Well, what did Scanlon think was going to happen now? Was he just going to stick around and kill more people, or was he going to leave? 00;36;01;22 - 00;36;13;28 Mark What Scanlon thought, As I mentioned, we'll cover the scene totally. Like, what is his plan of action? What is his end game? What is There's so many problems here. 00;36;14;01 - 00;36;24;23 Sarah So Maurice is a suspect because he's caught looking into women's windows? Yeah, he's a voyeur. A criminal voyeur? Yes, he's a peeping Tom. They used to call them. 00;36;24;23 - 00;36;29;07 Mark And he. He is committing crimes. Yes. No one. He observed. 00;36;29;07 - 00;36;30;04 Sarah An image that. 00;36;30;05 - 00;36;30;27 Mark Would be observed. 00;36;30;27 - 00;36;35;21 Sarah And he admits that. He says, that's what I'm guilty of. Do you know why they were called Peeping Tom? 00;36;35;21 - 00;36;42;20 Mark No. Why were. Well, I think it has to do with someone who looked at Lady Godiva. 00;36;42;20 - 00;36;44;27 Sarah Yes, that's exactly it. 00;36;44;27 - 00;36;45;21 Mark Yeah. 00;36;45;24 - 00;36;51;23 Sarah So Lady Godiva was the wife of Earl or a Duke or something in this. 00;36;51;23 - 00;36;52;11 Mark Country. 00;36;52;13 - 00;37;07;04 Sarah Who was overtaxing the people. And she wanted him to lower the taxes and he was a jerk. And he said, I'll lower the taxes if you ride through town naked on a horse. Yeah. And so she put out an edict and said, Everybody stay inside, close your windows. 00;37;07;07 - 00;37;07;20 Mark I'm going. 00;37;07;20 - 00;37;09;24 Sarah To walk, I'm going to do this, but please don't look. 00;37;09;29 - 00;37;12;22 Mark And they were supportive of her. She says, Oh. 00;37;12;28 - 00;37;23;11 Sarah Yeah, it's heroic that she's basically doing this ride of shame because her her husband is such a tyrant and Tom is the only one who looked. 00;37;23;13 - 00;37;25;08 Mark Yeah, he gets an eyeful too. 00;37;25;10 - 00;37;25;21 Sarah On. 00;37;25;23 - 00;37;26;09 Mark The horse. 00;37;26;09 - 00;37;31;22 Sarah They're on Wikipedia. They call it the most infamous instance of voyeurism. 00;37;31;24 - 00;37;32;28 Mark Yeah. 00;37;33;01 - 00;37;44;15 Sarah Peeping Tom. So, yeah, Bailey takes Henry hostage. She's going to kill him. And then Scanlon just boom. And then ask Julia out for a date. And she's like, I got work to do. 00;37;44;16 - 00;37;47;01 Mark And I didn't like Myrtle. 00;37;47;03 - 00;37;52;22 Sarah So you're creepy, And you yelled at me over a body earlier, so, no, I don't want to go out. 00;37;52;22 - 00;37;56;03 Mark I have to wash my hair. I mean, a body. 00;37;56;05 - 00;38;04;03 Sarah She writes in her record books with not a quill pen, but close to it. Yeah, it's a dip. 00;38;04;09 - 00;38;05;02 Mark It's a dip. 00;38;05;04 - 00;38;10;26 Sarah And I don't know why. Because bald points existed already. Never mind fountain pens. It had internal ink. 00;38;10;28 - 00;38;15;13 Mark Yeah. I don't know why she does. That's really what out a fountain pen, old. 00;38;15;15 - 00;38;16;04 Sarah School mess. 00;38;16;06 - 00;38;20;01 Mark George is like. Total fountain pen that later on. Yeah, but. 00;38;20;04 - 00;38;21;20 Sarah Then there's a fingerprint montage. 00;38;21;28 - 00;38;28;08 Mark Yes. And he goes to well before the fingerprint montage, he goes the way. 00;38;28;11 - 00;38;34;00 Sarah Murdoch does and finds out that some policemen came and looked at their records. Yeah, this is where I think he knows. 00;38;34;03 - 00;38;35;07 Mark First, Toronto. 00;38;35;07 - 00;38;36;06 Sarah Puts the connection together. 00;38;36;11 - 00;38;40;27 Mark YWCA is 1873, so totally would have happened. 00;38;41;04 - 00;38;44;25 Sarah So you think he knows it? Scanlon earlier than this. This is where I think he knows. 00;38;44;25 - 00;38;53;11 Mark I think when she says one of your men, we're already here. And he says, What did they look like? He's confirming that it's. SCANLON Okay. 00;38;53;15 - 00;38;54;27 Sarah So you think he already suspects? 00;38;54;27 - 00;38;56;18 Mark I think he already suspects. 00;38;56;20 - 00;38;58;22 Sarah Well, the real Scanlon died in Cairo. 00;38;58;24 - 00;39;06;28 Mark Yes. We got a telegram from the yard. Okay. This is an instantaneous telegram. Like, why did it take five days to get there? 00;39;06;28 - 00;39;18;18 Sarah They didn't ask. They took him at his word that he was who he says he was. He probably had some ID, he had a badge. Just didn't have his picture on it. Mister, he's a maniac. Don't trust him by the picture. 00;39;18;21 - 00;39;22;25 Mark You're frightening me. Many times. Julia, get attacked in the morgue. 00;39;22;27 - 00;39;24;23 Sarah Quite a few. But I think this is the first one. 00;39;24;23 - 00;39;26;08 Mark I'm thinking maybe 15. 00;39;26;11 - 00;39;27;12 Mark She is. 00;39;27;18 - 00;39;29;27 Sarah She's really traumatized by this stone. 00;39;29;28 - 00;39;31;06 Mark As she should be. 00;39;31;06 - 00;39;36;02 Sarah And he's not dead. No, he's got big scissors in his chest. 00;39;36;02 - 00;39;37;01 Mark Yeah. What? 00;39;37;01 - 00;39;46;00 Sarah I'd like me to attack her in the morgue in the first place with his tiny little knife. Yeah. When she's got, like, saws and scalpels and great big blades. 00;39;46;05 - 00;39;47;26 Mark And this. This is a trope. 00;39;48;01 - 00;39;49;25 Mark This is section two, Jake. 00;39;49;25 - 00;39;58;00 Mark It's reversed so many times in Murdoch. It becomes a reverse trope. Okay, so the trope is Julie is in trouble, so we. 00;39;58;00 - 00;40;00;13 Mark Have to go save her. Oh, we saved. 00;40;00;13 - 00;40;04;01 Mark You while she was in trouble. Right? Okay, Julie. 00;40;04;01 - 00;40;04;21 Sarah I can usually. 00;40;04;28 - 00;40;21;06 Mark This is the princess in. Yeah, in In Peril myth. Yeah, right. So in this show, particularly Murdoch, they flip this around like in midsummer, Joy sometimes gets in trouble, and she needs help. 00;40;21;09 - 00;40;24;26 Sarah Jean legitimately needs to be saved. Rescued? Yeah. 00;40;24;28 - 00;40;31;20 Mark Julie, It's never like that. She kills multiple people in the morgue. 00;40;31;20 - 00;40;32;14 Mark Yeah. 00;40;32;17 - 00;40;36;14 Sarah Never mind out of the morgue. Shotguns. 00;40;36;16 - 00;40;37;25 Mark Bow and arrow. Yeah. 00;40;37;28 - 00;40;39;29 Sarah Like she can take care of herself. 00;40;39;29 - 00;40;40;18 Mark She is, but. 00;40;40;19 - 00;40;44;02 Sarah This is the first time it happens, and she's really upset. 00;40;44;02 - 00;40;51;05 Mark She as she should be. She's like, I need to go home. And like, Murdock's like, No, this is. 00;40;51;07 - 00;40;52;05 Sarah I'm going to take you home. 00;40;52;05 - 00;40;58;22 Mark Yeah, I'm going to take you home and put my head on your ass and go down. 00;40;58;25 - 00;41;01;08 Mark He's not like that. 00;41;01;10 - 00;41;03;24 Sarah But I just have Poor Julia. 00;41;03;28 - 00;41;04;16 Mark Yeah. 00;41;04;18 - 00;41;07;06 Sarah I think he wanted to be killed, though. He said thank you. 00;41;07;07 - 00;41;11;00 Mark Do you think they go to to dance class the same night. Yeah. 00;41;11;06 - 00;41;16;04 Sarah Okay. Because he's. He says to Professor Otranto something happened at work today. 00;41;16;07 - 00;41;25;19 Mark Yeah he does. And she says, and this is where I think this acknowledgment of trauma is good. Where she goes, I'd really like to be held right now. 00;41;25;20 - 00;41;31;19 Sarah Tonight, more than any night. I would very much like to be held. Yes, but you've skipped a really important scene. 00;41;31;19 - 00;41;32;15 Mark What did we skip? 00;41;32;21 - 00;41;35;20 Sarah Murdoch returns to the incurable asylum. 00;41;35;20 - 00;41;36;03 Mark Yes. 00;41;36;03 - 00;41;39;11 Sarah To tell Dr. Roberts that his profile was correct. 00;41;39;11 - 00;41;39;26 Mark Yes. 00;41;40;01 - 00;41;45;01 Sarah And we get to see the best character in the episode. 00;41;45;03 - 00;41;46;12 Mark Oh, my God. 00;41;46;15 - 00;41;54;15 Sarah He gets a microsecond of full screen. There is a kid at the asylum who. 00;41;54;17 - 00;41;55;25 Mark I help with. 00;41;55;26 - 00;42;03;26 Sarah His hair. I don't know if his hair is making him crazy or if he's crazy. So he has that hair, but he's just standing there grinning like an idiot. 00;42;04;00 - 00;42;08;05 Mark He is clearly placed in this episode for mania. Ecstasy. 00;42;08;05 - 00;42;13;15 Sarah Yes, we have a screenshot of him. I challenge people to notice him if he's. 00;42;13;17 - 00;42;16;03 Mark Got to be the sun or if. 00;42;16;03 - 00;42;16;16 Sarah You boil. 00;42;16;17 - 00;42;16;29 Mark Some. 00;42;16;29 - 00;42;17;29 Sarah You will miss him. 00;42;17;29 - 00;42;20;22 Mark Relative of somebody in the crew. 00;42;20;22 - 00;42;21;05 Sarah Yes. 00;42;21;12 - 00;42;24;13 Mark He's a big giant Encino man hair. 00;42;24;15 - 00;42;26;00 Sarah It looks like Pauly Shore. 00;42;26;04 - 00;42;34;01 Mark You look like some nineties. Lola puts the loser fans reject. 00;42;34;03 - 00;42;36;14 Sarah Wait, just standing there grinning like. 00;42;36;15 - 00;42;39;26 Mark Grinning like a crazy person. That's a crazy person. 00;42;39;26 - 00;42;44;12 Mark How is this bad wig? Part of my treatment, Doc? 00;42;44;17 - 00;42;45;29 Mark Do you think it's a wig or do you think it's. 00;42;45;29 - 00;42;46;29 Sarah I think it's a wig. 00;42;46;29 - 00;42;49;19 Mark I think it's a wig. Do you had to get dressed? 00;42;49;19 - 00;42;56;28 Sarah Unless they just. The casting director just happened to see this kid with this hair. And I was like, I got a part for you guys. 00;42;57;00 - 00;42;59;00 Mark Come here. Come here, kid. 00;42;59;02 - 00;43;05;11 Sarah Your hair has earned you a pardon not to stand here and grin. Okay? Yeah, I'll be fine. 00;43;05;14 - 00;43;12;26 Mark I want you all when you watch this. If you even watch this again to point out your television and scream Encino man. 00;43;12;26 - 00;43;16;22 Mark Yeah. 00;43;16;25 - 00;43;18;06 Sarah Miller That crazy house? 00;43;18;06 - 00;43;21;02 Mark No kook. 00;43;21;09 - 00;43;32;26 Mark Well, this is not the end of Dr. Roberts. One of our favorite characters, who they do a very good job of going, okay, he's a good character, and we're not going to put him in every episode ever again. Yeah, they do a good job of that. 00;43;32;26 - 00;43;42;12 Sarah So they theorize that I'm just going to call on Scanlon that Scanlon kills eight people because they're eight snakes and snakes and ladders. 00;43;42;12 - 00;43;48;18 Mark But they leave it open. And I don't like that, but I don't like Scanlon is a killer. The whole thing. 00;43;48;19 - 00;43;49;05 Sarah Yeah. 00;43;49;05 - 00;43;50;14 Mark What is is inciting. 00;43;50;14 - 00;43;53;27 Sarah What we know nothing about or. Yeah, who he really is. What's. 00;43;53;29 - 00;44;18;24 Mark What is his inciting incident? What is the reason he comes to Toronto? Why does he like if he's going to shoot that guy and he knows he's going to kill six more other women, why does he kill him? Like, why not let him rot in prison? And I just he's he is a great, goofy character. But if you take 10 seconds, it makes no sense. 00;44;19;01 - 00;44;20;21 Sarah Well, I can answer part of that. 00;44;20;23 - 00;44;21;06 Mark Okay. 00;44;21;13 - 00;44;27;17 Sarah The reason that he comes to Toronto is that he has heard of Murdoch and he thinks Murdoch can catch. 00;44;27;17 - 00;44;30;00 Mark I think that's the most likely. 00;44;30;00 - 00;44;50;13 Sarah Suggestion and that's why he pretends to be a policeman to insinuate himself into the case, because the closer he is to Murdoch, the more likely Murdoch is to catch him. But he's Looney Tunes, so he can't just confess and be caught. Yeah, but he wants to be quiet, right? So he wants to be close to the investigation so that he can get caught. 00;44;50;15 - 00;44;53;22 Sarah If so, it's flattering to Murdoch that he came all the way from Auckland. 00;44;53;22 - 00;44;58;01 Mark If Doyle knows about Murdoch, then he would certainly know about murder. 00;44;58;01 - 00;45;02;01 Sarah Yeah, I think it would take like two months to sail from Auckland. 00;45;02;01 - 00;45;05;25 Mark I would say so. And he cannot kill somebody on the boat. He gets bored. 00;45;05;25 - 00;45;07;03 Sarah Yeah. When you. 00;45;07;05 - 00;45;08;00 Mark If you're a. 00;45;08;02 - 00;45;11;17 Sarah I mean just going from London to Cairo I think he'd probably want to kill. 00;45;11;19 - 00;45;13;11 Mark If you're a maniac killer. 00;45;13;13 - 00;45;16;09 Sarah But you can't kill eight people on a boat. And no. 00;45;16;11 - 00;45;18;08 Mark People are going to notice that. 00;45;18;11 - 00;45;20;11 Sarah Maybe nobody would play snakes and ladders with. 00;45;20;12 - 00;45;20;29 Mark Him. 00;45;21;02 - 00;45;27;26 Sarah But says he's obsessed with it. I'm like, Are you playing it all by yourself? Yeah. Is that it? You're playing it against your side. 00;45;27;26 - 00;45;33;29 Mark He gets at the game. I'm like, You regret the dice, not the game. 00;45;34;01 - 00;45;46;19 Sarah Just be glad it was there. There. There's so many other board games. He could have been obsessed with that would have been so much worse. If he was obsessed with chess, he would be like killing royal families, I guess. 00;45;46;19 - 00;45;48;18 Mark Maybe I hate. 00;45;48;18 - 00;45;50;10 Mark Castles. Yes. 00;45;50;13 - 00;46;02;20 Sarah Or if he wants to the monopoly be killing people who lived on third streets like he would have all these street of all these cities to go. Which one has a boardwalk where I can go. 00;46;02;23 - 00;46;05;05 Mark That makes a little more sense. 00;46;05;07 - 00;46;14;14 Sarah And be like ABC murders like yeah Agatha Christie. And the best one I thought of though was sorry that would be. 00;46;14;16 - 00;46;17;00 Mark That's the most anything. 00;46;17;02 - 00;46;17;14 Mark Like. 00;46;17;17 - 00;46;19;01 Sarah I kill. Sorry, sorry. 00;46;19;04 - 00;46;24;04 Mark Sorry, sorry, sorry I. 00;46;24;07 - 00;46;33;11 Mark I have to tell you I played. Sorry Maybe twice. My parents bought it for me. I played it maybe twice, and I just didn't like it. And I remember. 00;46;33;13 - 00;46;37;16 Sarah You don't like being kid anybody. So even if you get to say sorry. 00;46;37;16 - 00;46;45;21 Mark So I have two brothers and two sisters, but they are much older than me, so I was left alone as a child. A lot of. 00;46;45;21 - 00;46;47;19 Sarah Did you play Sorry against yourself? 00;46;47;21 - 00;46;50;21 Mark Played. 00;46;50;24 - 00;47;07;08 Mark So I never like like I had especially special rule when I played myself. The whole idea of stories. If you land a token on another player's tokens space. 00;47;07;08 - 00;47;10;04 Sarah It's like a race game to say sorry, but you can. 00;47;10;10 - 00;47;12;03 Mark Send them home. Yeah, but. 00;47;12;03 - 00;47;14;05 Sarah My research was. 00;47;14;07 - 00;47;15;11 Mark That didn't count. 00;47;15;11 - 00;47;19;05 Mark When I was playing. 00;47;19;07 - 00;47;31;21 Sarah You never set yourself back to the beginning that you. I thought your house rule was going to be if you could. You had to. You have to send yourself back. 00;47;31;21 - 00;47;32;04 Mark Know. 00;47;32;04 - 00;47;34;14 Sarah Even if it's just you playing against yourself. 00;47;34;16 - 00;47;36;02 Mark No, I didn't like that. 00;47;36;03 - 00;47;45;05 Sarah I'm not sorry. Sorry. I can't send you back to the beginning like I'm supposed to. You're too. 00;47;45;05 - 00;47;48;10 Mark Nice. 00;47;48;12 - 00;47;55;07 Sarah Murdoch goes back to dance class, and Professor Tronto says your abilities are not that bad. 00;47;55;09 - 00;47;57;27 Mark But they're not that bad. 00;47;58;00 - 00;47;59;08 Sarah He seems to be getting better. 00;47;59;08 - 00;48;01;05 Mark They have a nice moment with Julie. 00;48;01;09 - 00;48;01;28 Sarah They do. 00;48;02;04 - 00;48;05;09 Mark And next week they go to the dinosaur show. 00;48;05;11 - 00;48;07;06 Sarah Mm. The Dino ball. 00;48;07;06 - 00;48;09;11 Mark The dental ball. 00;48;09;14 - 00;48;10;26 Sarah Best corpse. 00;48;10;28 - 00;48;12;27 Mark I think Alberta is the best. 00;48;12;28 - 00;48;16;06 Sarah Or I do too. We hardly see Abercrombie. 00;48;16;06 - 00;48;20;08 Mark Yeah, Alberta does a great job and she's just lying there and. 00;48;20;08 - 00;48;21;17 Sarah On the hay bales. 00;48;21;19 - 00;48;27;18 Mark They make a really good job of making the pictures look like the ripper pictures, but they're not the Ripper. 00;48;27;18 - 00;48;39;12 Sarah Pictures. They're too clear to be the pictures, frankly. Yeah, they need to be way blacker and smudge here and stuff. So after the credits pour, I feel so bad for Morris Bailey. 00;48;39;14 - 00;48;40;04 Mark Oh. 00;48;40;07 - 00;49;01;00 Sarah I mean, he was a criminal. He deserved to be punished. And he should not have taken Henry hostage. But he was desperate. He. He. What he did was not directly violent. He thought he was going to be sent to the noose, which that's the way to get to plead your case. Yeah, but poor Mrs. Moffet just has to go home without her daughter. 00;49;01;02 - 00;49;04;08 Mark Yeah, all the way to Coburg and then grafted. 00;49;04;14 - 00;49;08;17 Sarah And I guess Bracken Reed's going to have to write a letter to Scotland Yard. 00;49;08;19 - 00;49;09;07 Mark Yes. 00;49;09;07 - 00;49;19;10 Sarah And I solved your murders for you. Yeah. Cairo, Bombay, Auckland. It's solution. It was this guy. Are you ready for a terrible movie? 00;49;19;10 - 00;49;21;21 Mark I am ready for a terrible movie. 00;49;21;21 - 00;49;25;05 Sarah Oh, I've got one. I've just got one. But boy, is it a doozy. 00;49;25;05 - 00;49;26;24 Mark Okay. 00;49;26;26 - 00;49;31;13 Sarah So Conrad Dunn, who plays professor of Toronto, the dance instructor, is in this movie. 00;49;31;13 - 00;49;32;09 Mark Oh. 00;49;32;12 - 00;49;33;20 Mark Mark. 00;49;33;23 - 00;49;35;08 Sarah And he's like a major. 00;49;35;08 - 00;49;36;28 Mark Do we see him again? 00;49;37;00 - 00;49;37;23 Sarah I don't know. 00;49;37;23 - 00;49;43;15 Mark I didn't know. I won't look him up on IMDB because I'll probably see the movies and he. 00;49;43;18 - 00;49;58;13 Sarah Yes, Please don't. Now you're going to touch the computer in front of you. I see how it is. Yeah. He plays a major character in this movie. Yeah. He's not just like in the background. Okay. This is a 1996 movie. Okay? The tagline is Danger has a new face. Okay. 00;49;58;20 - 00;49;59;24 Mark Okay. 00;49;59;26 - 00;50;19;29 Sarah After his wife is killed in a criminal deal gone wrong, a policeman is shot in the face and declared dead, but instead undergoes secret plastic surgery to disguise himself as the hitman who killed his wife. Going undercover he infiltrates a dangerous underworld in order to find a mobster and a valuable microchip. 00;50;20;05 - 00;50;21;10 Mark Okay, so this. 00;50;21;12 - 00;50;27;17 Sarah So his wife is killed. He gets shot in the face and then gets plastic surgery to look like the man who killed his wife. 00;50;27;17 - 00;50;28;29 Mark And I think this is. 00;50;29;04 - 00;50;30;07 Sarah So he can fool the mobsters. 00;50;30;07 - 00;50;33;04 Mark So this is a rip off of face off. 00;50;33;04 - 00;50;36;20 Sarah It's before face off, isn't it? For office 1996. 00;50;36;23 - 00;50;37;25 Mark I don't know if. 00;50;37;27 - 00;50;40;00 Sarah It stars Lorenzo Lamas. 00;50;40;04 - 00;50;44;20 Mark Oh, wow. 00;50;44;23 - 00;50;48;20 Mark So Lorenzo Lamas was famous for being on Destiny. 00;50;48;22 - 00;50;50;01 Mark Yeah. 00;50;50;04 - 00;51;01;18 Mark With Joan Collins War. And he tried to be an action star in the nineties. Yeah. And this this I in 98 if it. 00;51;01;18 - 00;51;04;00 Sarah Wasn't Lorenzo Lamas, it would have been Dolph Lundgren at. 00;51;04;05 - 00;51;11;16 Mark Something. Yeah. I would have not seen this movie because it would have been above Lorenzo Lamas movies. Oh. At this point in time. 00;51;11;17 - 00;51;18;22 Sarah Well Conrad Dun plays the mobster who who He's out to get nice. It's called Masque of Death. 00;51;18;22 - 00;51;20;06 Mark Masque of Death? 00;51;20;06 - 00;51;31;05 Sarah Yes. Wow. His plastic surgery is so good, it fools all of the mobsters into thinking that the assassin they sent out has just come back. I mean, he just looks just like him. 00;51;31;07 - 00;51;35;28 Mark Wow. Because it's just your face. It's not like how you. 00;51;36;01 - 00;51;37;08 Sarah Know what your. 00;51;37;08 - 00;51;38;04 Mark Sound is. 00;51;38;04 - 00;51;42;18 Sarah Stuff. Like what you know about who you've killed since you're an assassin who killed a cop's wife. And. 00;51;42;18 - 00;51;42;28 Mark Yeah. 00;51;43;04 - 00;51;45;16 Sarah Where have you been while you're healing up? I don't know. 00;51;45;16 - 00;51;46;21 Mark I don't know. No. 00;51;46;23 - 00;51;55;23 Sarah So Lorenzo Lamas gets to play the assassin and then he gets to play the cop pretending to be the assassin. Wow. That takes an acting skill. 00;51;55;23 - 00;51;56;13 Mark That's. 00;51;56;15 - 00;52;01;02 Sarah That's Lorenzo Masque of Death. 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