NUANCE

What is the Church really called to do—and who’s responsible when it falls short?

In this powerful episode of Nuance from Compassion International, Austin Rockwell (young adult pastor, DJ, and founder of Kamp Love) joins NBA chaplain and Evolve Church pastor Kenneth Lock for a conversation that cuts through clichés and gets real about spiritual responsibility, justice, grief, partnership with the secular world, and the presence of God.

Do all Christians have a personal duty to serve the marginalized? Should churches partner with secular organizations? Is the Church’s primary role worship, justice, or evangelism—or something deeper? With vulnerability, humor, and prophetic insight, Austin and Kenneth dismantle over-generalizations and call believers to a life of deep connection to Jesus—bearing fruit not from pressure, but from presence.

If you’ve ever been burned out by church expectations or unsure how faith intersects with justice, this episode is for you.

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What is NUANCE?

Nuance is a conversation series unlike any other—where 14 Christian thought leaders, pastors, artists, and influencers come together two at a time for honest, grace-filled dialogue across lines of difference.

Each of the 13 episodes pairs two voices you may not expect to see in the same room, exploring prompt cards that challenge assumptions, surface tensions, and invite vulnerability. They don’t always agree. That’s the point. What emerges is not debate, but a richer kind of unity—one rooted in listening well, honoring each other’s stories, and holding space for complexity without compromising conviction.

These are the conversations we need in a polarized world. With topics that range from race to revival, politics to purity culture, deconstruction to discipleship, Nuance offers a model of courageous curiosity—centered in Christ, grounded in Scripture, and fueled by the Spirit of relational reconciliation that genuinely explores what it means to live Unto Jesus today.

If you're hungry for depth, tired of division, and ready for a better way forward—welcome. This is Nuance.

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