WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in 3 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:17.359 practical ways. Good morning, good morning, we talk through good morning, 4 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:20.399 good morning, do you and you and you? 5 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:24.760 Good job Chris, Hey, good morning. Everybody waiting for it? Well, Thursday, 6 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:27.600 we're hoping Thursday is a star. 7 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:32.960 Wishing upon a star. So funny. Hey, welcome to the 8 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:35.719 Bible guys. This is Christian Jeff And whether it's evening 9 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:38.520 or morning, thank you for tuning in. We're talking about 10 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:41.439 the beatitudes. But before we dive into that, we have 11 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:46.079 a stump the pasture. I love these yeah, well why 12 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:47.920 do you love them? Because they're fun? 13 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:52.479 I love the open forum, Q and A top of 14 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:55.399 your head. Yeah, hey, pastor, I was thinking about this thing. 15 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:57.439 I love that environment. I like to do it with 16 00:00:57.439 --> 00:00:58.159 the young adults. 17 00:00:58.240 --> 00:00:58.479 Yep. 18 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:00.280 Usually once or twice a year. Like to do with 19 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:02.640 our high schoolers and these kids. The last time I 20 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:04.439 did it with the young adults, they stayed like midnight. 21 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:06.719 It was nuts. When when did it begin? When did 22 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:07.480 the Q and A begin? 23 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:08.400 Seven? 24 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:09.879 Wow? 25 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:12.680 Yeah, so I was there they were, they had a 26 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:15.079 big dinner. I think it was like seven o'clock seven 27 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:16.599 or eight that I got there and we were done 28 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:18.840 it just at midnight, just before midnight. 29 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:19.239 Wow. 30 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:22.040 Yeah, and they're just asking, just asking questions. Yeah, Hey, 31 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:23.599 I was reading about this. I read about this. What 32 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:25.319 do we think about this? Why is this true? Or 33 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:27.439 that true? High schools will do the same thing. I 34 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:30.760 did it on one with high school last year that 35 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:33.560 lasted till around eleven. As a matter of fact, the 36 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:35.400 parents were sitting around the outside of the room, so 37 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:37.120 I came to pick up their kids and I'm like, hey, 38 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:39.200 I'll stay as long as everybody wants to ask questions, 39 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:40.680 but your mom and dad are here, so make sure 40 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:42.719 your mom and dad say it's okay. Next thing, you know, 41 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:44.439 we got like fifty people to sit in the room 42 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:48.319 just asking questions. I love that stuff. It's fun because people, 43 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:52.000 You know, if you really know what you believe, you 44 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:55.239 don't have to worry about people asking questions and challenging it. Right, 45 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:58.040 if you really know God's words, God's word is strong 46 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:01.319 enough to stand up under the longest criticisms or critiques 47 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:04.200 your questions. That's not threatened by your questions. This is 48 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:05.920 why Jeremiah says, come, let's reason together. 49 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:07.400 Says the Lord, that's right. 50 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:09.039 Anyways, I love them. 51 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:13.319 This is from Eddie A. Hi Eddie, and Eddie A says, Hey, guys, 52 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:16.039 just want to start with I love the show. Thanks Eddie. Well, 53 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:19.319 my question is about when Jesus talks about an eye 54 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:21.680 for an eye and a sermon on the mountain similar 55 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:23.479 to Chris, which, by the way, happens to be our 56 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:27.039 passage for today. Yes, des placed them together perfect Similar 57 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:29.879 to Chris, I find myself being a bit of a skeptic. 58 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:34.000 I was confused why Jesus quotes God's word eye for 59 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:37.080 an eye, but then goes on to say something completely different, 60 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:39.560 like turning the other cheek. I was wondering if there 61 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:43.800 is a moment where Jesus changed the law or if 62 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:47.520 it means something else. Furthermore, I find myself struggling with 63 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:50.039 these moments of question in doubt and was wondering if 64 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:53.439 you can share a time when you questioned God's word 65 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:56.879 or doubted and how God helped you through that. Thanks 66 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:58.240 and God bless Eddie A. 67 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:03.360 So a couple different, Yeah, great question, Yeah, simple question 68 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:09.520 or simple answer, Eddie is, uh, it's something else entirely. 69 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:13.879 He didn't he didn't change the law, and he's not 70 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:17.879 ignoring one and then making a new one. Right, something 71 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:20.960 else entirely different. But I appreciate it when somebody's honest 72 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:23.120 about Hey, I struggle with some of these things. And 73 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:26.520 as I would say, is God's not threatened by your questions, 74 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:28.520 and there are plausible answers to your questions. 75 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:31.639 Right, So what did you mean by God's not changing 76 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:33.039 the law or making a new one? 77 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:39.360 Yeah, So when you read Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, 78 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:42.400 and I mentioned this right before the show started, Yeah, 79 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:45.719 this is great. Yeah, So the book of Exodus is 80 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:50.960 God establishing the law. Then Leviticus is an extension of 81 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:54.840 Exodus in that he now is unpacking the levitical side, 82 00:03:54.919 --> 00:04:00.560 how all the the sacrifices and you know, the tabernacle 83 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:02.039 and all those things, how that's going to be managed 84 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:04.919 those two things. And then numbers and Numbers is kind 85 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:06.840 of a generic version of it. He goes back and 86 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:09.639 reminds them, and Deuteronomy is a restatement at the end 87 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:12.680 of Moses's forty years wandering the wilderness with these people, 88 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:14.759 so he keeps having to come back and re reminding 89 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:16.920 them of the law. And so you break the law 90 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:21.160 into pieces. There's the social law, which is you and 91 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:23.000 I should not be killing each other. You and I 92 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:24.920 shouldn't be telling lies to each other. We should be 93 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:25.759 obeying our parents. 94 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:26.480 We shouldn't just be. 95 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:29.759 Worshiping one god. All of us should be honoring a sabbath. 96 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:33.720 Let's not be coveting, let's not you know whatever. So 97 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:36.720 those are social things, and there's a number of laws 98 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:39.319 like that. There are a bunch of levitical laws. The 99 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:42.600 altar needs to be this size, the tabernacle needs to 100 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:45.800 be built like this. The priests have to go through 101 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:48.079 these ceremonies in order to be clean enough to be 102 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:50.959 able to do the sacrifices. Here's where the holy holies goes, 103 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:53.399 the Beama seat, all that kind of stuff. Right, that's 104 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:56.639 all the levitical law. And then there's the government laws. 105 00:04:56.800 --> 00:05:00.360 Because God was setting up Israel's a theocracy, so then 106 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:03.079 he says all these rules, like, okay, so if you 107 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:07.240 have to go to court and one guy's ox killed 108 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:10.319 another guy's ox, here's what you need to do. 109 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:10.800 Excuse me. 110 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:13.959 You have to replace the dead animal with a living animal. 111 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:14.879 Right. 112 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:19.600 If a camel gets away and runs over somebody, this 113 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:21.959 is the civil consequence. And so there's all these civil 114 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:24.519 laws that he gives. So you have to understand that 115 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:28.040 when Jesus says, when Jesus quotes an eye for an 116 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:30.519 eye and a tooth for tooth, that comes up in Exodus, 117 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:33.720 it comes up in Leviticus, and it comes up in Deuteronomy. 118 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:40.680 All of them are in the context of government civil law. 119 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:47.000 In Exodus he's talking about how to treat servants, how 120 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:51.959 to treat animals. In Leviticus he's talking about in that 121 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:55.879 whole same passage, he's talking about if somebody accidentally kills somebody, 122 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.879 if somebody kills somebody on purpose, whatever. And he tells 123 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:01.120 the judges and he lives says to the judges, the 124 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:07.079 judges have to thoroughly investigate, and then don't be gentle 125 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:11.959 with your judgment. If they did it, then whatever they did, 126 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:14.839 that's the same punishment they get, right, And so's he's 127 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:17.519 not giving the judges any wiggle room. And then in Deuteronomy, 128 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:20.680 where he quotes it, and this is where Jesus was 129 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:24.040 quoting from was I think was Deuteronomy, it says you 130 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:26.680 must not convict anyone of a crime on the testimony 131 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:28.680 of only one witness. The facts of the case should 132 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:30.879 be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. 133 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:32.839 So you can clearly see this a court room kind 134 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:35.279 of situation. Then he goes on. He says, if a 135 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:37.600 malicious witness comes forward and accuses of someone of a crime, 136 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:39.800 they both accused, and the accused must appear before the 137 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:42.279 Lord by coming to the priests and the judges in 138 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:46.079 office at the time. So now we have official judges. 139 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:50.480 This is a government circumstance that's happening. And then it 140 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:58.680 says that they have to thoroughly investigate. The judges thoroughly investigate. 141 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:03.959 The judges must investigate the case thoroughly. If the accuser 142 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:07.560 has brought false charges against his fellow Israelite, you must 143 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.959 impose on the accuser the incentence he intended for the 144 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:14.720 other person. And this way you will purge such evil 145 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:17.279 from among you. So let's talk about this. So this 146 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:20.959 passage is saying, if if somebody brings a false case 147 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:23.480 just trying to ruin you. I'm a powerful guy, you're 148 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:25.240 a weak guy. I bring a case against you. It 149 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:27.480 is totally fraudulent, but I'm trying to get your land. 150 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:29.560 I'm trying to get your your servants. I'm trying to 151 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:31.839 get your animals. I'm trying to ruin your reputation so 152 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:34.480 I can take over, right, wild wild West kind of thing, 153 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:37.079 one rancher against another rancher kind of thing. And I'm 154 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:40.360 trying to and I'm trying to ruin your reputation. Well, 155 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:42.360 first of all, I need to bring two or three witnesses. 156 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:44.160 But if I can't bring two or three witnesses, and 157 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:46.639 this says, the judges have to investigate thoroughly. And if 158 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.839 they find out I trumped up this entire accusation and 159 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:52.319 I'm just trying to ruin you. Whatever I was trying 160 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:54.800 to have done to you, now the judges are required 161 00:07:54.800 --> 00:08:00.279 to do to me. Right. I heard, I heard he 162 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:03.560 murdered somebody and buried him in the backyard, and that's 163 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:06.800 a death penalty issue. I heard that he was committing adultery, 164 00:08:06.800 --> 00:08:10.279 and that's a death penalty issue. Whatever, whatever the consequence 165 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:14.000 of what I was accusing you of. Now, if it 166 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:16.759 turns out it was a false accusation, I'm supposed to 167 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:19.079 be executed the same way that I was trying to 168 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:22.399 get you executed, right, Yeah, And so it's in that context, 169 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:25.160 then he says, in this way, you'll purge this evil. 170 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:30.199 You'll purge false testimony when the consequence is as heavy 171 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:32.639 as what the bad guy was hoping, what happened to 172 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:34.840 the person who's accusing. Right, That's what he's saying. Make 173 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:38.000 the consequence as heavy on the person who lied as 174 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:40.639 it would have been on the person if it was true. Right, 175 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:44.759 And it's in that consequence he says, you must verse 176 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:47.840 twenty one, You must show no pity for the guilty. 177 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:50.960 Your rule should be life for life, eye for eye, 178 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:54.840 tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. So 179 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:57.840 he's talking to judges, saying, have no mercy in this moment. 180 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:03.480 If somebody is a liar, accusing somebody falsely, no mercy 181 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:06.360 on that person. Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, for foot, 182 00:09:06.759 --> 00:09:10.360 hand for hand. That's what Jesus is quoting. So Jesus 183 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:12.600 is quoting a government verse, and he's saying, but you're 184 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:14.960 wanting to take this into your own hands. You feel 185 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:17.399 like somebody punched you, you get to punch him back. You 186 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:19.360 think that somebody took advantage of you, you get to take 187 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:21.639 advantage of them. Eye for an eye, And he's saying 188 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:25.279 this isn't you're right, revenge that's that verse. Isn't about revenge, 189 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:30.240 that versus about judgment from judges. Right, And what you're 190 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:32.720 wanting to do now is use it as a personal 191 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:36.360 You think it's okay to be a vigilanti, to go 192 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:39.600 get your own justice. And Jesus is saying, no, if 193 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:43.480 it's a personal issue, not a government civil issue, it's 194 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:47.039 a personal issue, you turn the other cheek. You don't 195 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:49.720 punch him back because they punched you. If they ask 196 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:52.200 you to go one mile, go to if they sue 197 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:55.039 you for your coat, give him your cloak. Also, right, 198 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:58.080 Jesus is saying, listen, if this is personal, you have 199 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:04.679 no my people, followers have no right to take from others, 200 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:08.639 right to try to get back from them. He says, instead, 201 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:12.440 you go beyond. But that's different from the civil law. 202 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:15.000 So he's not changing the law. He's differentiating between the 203 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:19.240 intent of civil law and your personal right to expect vigilanteism. 204 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:24.360 Right. And on top of all that, let's not forget also, Eddie, 205 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:27.960 that Jesus also said a new command that I bring 206 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.440 to you love one another. So Jesus is introducing the 207 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.960 idea of mercy. He's introducing the idea of like saying, Hey, 208 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:39.840 that's why he told his disciples. Everybody lords things over 209 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:42.639 everybody else. He says, but with you, it shall be different. 210 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:45.440 Right with you, it shall be different. For those who 211 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:50.399 follow Christ. He always challenges us to think a brand 212 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:53.559 new way, and that's part of that as well. He's saying, Hey, 213 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:55.879 if you're a follower of me, then you're gonna love 214 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:57.840 one another. You're gonna love your enemies, You're gonna pray 215 00:10:57.919 --> 00:11:00.480 for those who persecute you. You're going to you know, 216 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:02.519 and by the way, slapping the other cheek, we're about 217 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:06.080 to read that, but slapping the other cheek wasn't much 218 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:09.879 an assault as it was an insult. Yeah, And so 219 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:12.759 he's saying, like, he's talking about character more than anything else. 220 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:16.279 And so he's introducing this idea of taking the high road, 221 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.759 showing mercy, loving one another. And yeah, you're absolutely right, 222 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:24.840 he's not changing the law. By the time Moses's law 223 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:28.679 was being practiced in Jesus's day, people were using it 224 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:31.799 for revenge, an excuse to get revenge on whatever. 225 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:35.320 Yeah. So God in the Old Testament, when he gives 226 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:37.320 us the three different times he talks about eye for 227 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:40.679 an eye, a tooth for tooth. He's defining, make sure 228 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:43.759 that the consequence is as significant as the offense. But 229 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:52.519 he's also limiting the consequences. If if I took an eye, 230 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:58.000 they can't behead me, right, So he's limiting the consequences. 231 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:02.159 He's defining a narrow range. You can't go less than 232 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:04.840 the consequence needs to be equal to the offense, or 233 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:08.720 there's no justice, but it can't exceed the offense, or 234 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:11.240 that's not just either. So he gives this kind of limit, 235 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:15.039 and that's a civil issue. So God does not view 236 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:18.039 and Jesus doesn't either. Jesus said give us eed, do 237 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:22.440 that with your caesars. Jesus does not diminish civil responsibility 238 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:25.879 in the civil laws and civil government. He doesn't do it. 239 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:29.600 Paul tells us obey those who have the rule over us, right, 240 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:32.679 obey the government that God's put in place. There's a 241 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:34.720 reason why they carry the sword, is what he says 242 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:35.759 in Romans chapter thirteen. 243 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:37.799 Unless it conflicts with God's work, that's right. 244 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:43.440 So he's not dismissing the civil law. He's differentiating, saying, 245 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:46.440 you can't take this into your own hands if it's 246 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:50.000 a situation that does not rise to a civil suit. 247 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:53.440 It's appropriate for Christians to deal with a thing that 248 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:56.159 can't be If you have a property issue between you 249 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:57.759 and your neighbor and your neighbor wants to put his 250 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:01.720 fence on your side, say no, put it on the line, 251 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:03.360 or put it on your side if you want. If 252 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:06.039 your neighbor wants to cut down your tree, right and 253 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:08.279 you can't sort it out, go go go work that out. 254 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:10.159 That's not just to go ahead and let your neighbor 255 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:13.360 put you know, his fence on your property. You go 256 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:16.240 sort it out with the civil government. That's okay. Jesus 257 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:19.039 is differentiating between what the civil government can do and 258 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:21.519 what you can do as an individual if it doesn't 259 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:24.200 rise to a civil issue where you need to go 260 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:28.320 before a judge. Jesus says, go past it now. It's 261 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:32.559 a mercy thing, right, and and act like Jesus would 262 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:36.279 act that. That's what he's saying there. And so I 263 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:38.279 don't see this as a new rule. I don't see 264 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:42.240 it as him changing the rules. He's he's correcting them, 265 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:46.639 saying you're misusing this for your own anger and your 266 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:49.919 own your own need for revenge. And so I think 267 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:53.720 Jesus is deepening the meaning here, not not changing the meaning. 268 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:56.720 Well, that's great. And and by the way, here's the 269 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:01.360 transition between the segment and the script. You're reading. Ready 270 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.720 for this, here's the transition. Hey, Eddie, that's exactly the 271 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:06.720 verses we're about. 272 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:15.559 To read, exactly. So Matthew chapter five, we're reading the beatitudes, 273 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:20.639 and Jesus says, God blesses those who are humble or 274 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:23.960 those who are meek. Yesterday we established a couple days ago, 275 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:28.720 we established the idea that meekness is strength under control. 276 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:32.639 That's right, right, So it's not meekness, isn't weakness. And 277 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:36.440 in this situations, in this situation, Jesus is defining a 278 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:40.360 little bit what this would look like. And he says 279 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:43.720 in Matthew chapter five, verse thirty eight, you've heard the 280 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:46.799 law that says the punishment must match the injury. An 281 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:48.519 eye for an eye and a tooth for tooth. But 282 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:51.879 I say, do not resist an evil person. If someone 283 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:54.279 slaps you on the right cheek, offer the other cheek. Also, 284 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:57.000 if you are sued in court, your sure it is 285 00:14:57.039 --> 00:14:59.720 taken from you, give your coat too. If a soldier 286 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:02.399 to meand that you carry his gear for a mile, 287 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:05.799 carry it two miles, give to those who ask, and 288 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:08.919 don't turn away from those who want to borrow. Right. 289 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:13.240 So again he's addressing the attitude. And I think we've 290 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:14.879 covered a lot of these things, but this is where 291 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:17.679 you get turn the other cheek, this is where you 292 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:20.080 get the I mean, this is a cultural phrase that 293 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:24.120 we still hear. Go the extra mile. Boy, he really 294 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:25.840 went the extra mile. You want to know where they 295 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:28.879 came from. That came from Jesus saying go the extra mile. 296 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:32.840 And so back then, Roman soldiers could legally force a 297 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:35.759 Jew to carry their equipment one mile. 298 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:40.559 That's right, And so Jesus not to He couldn't make you. 299 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:42.679 You know, they had mile markers on the Roman roads, 300 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:46.399 and on Roman roads he could make you carry because 301 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:49.679 it was definitive. Here's a mile marker, there's a mile marker, 302 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:52.000 and so you have to carry it one mile. 303 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:56.480 And so Jesus is saying, saturay people with love. You 304 00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:59.240 know the idea that the idea that when Jesus came along, 305 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:03.600 he changed everything. And you know the power of servant 306 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:07.759 servanthood and love, like when Jesus washed the feets of 307 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:11.519 the servant, you know, or the yeah, when he washed 308 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:13.720 everybody's feet as a servant. That's what I was trying 309 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:20.519 to say. There's this power of love that Jesus brought 310 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:24.639 to the earth. Right, so Jesus said, hey. In John 311 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:28.840 one seventeen, he says, Moses came to bring you the law, 312 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:31.879 he said, but I've given you both truth and grace. 313 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:36.559 So Jesus does bring a different dynamic of grace and 314 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:39.559 he brings love. And so what Jesus is really demonstrating 315 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:43.360 here is he's saying, hey, man, By the way, the 316 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:45.960 sentiment that I'm trying to express, I thought that The 317 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:50.679 Chosen really depicted this particular thing very well, because when 318 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:53.960 you watch this episode, the Roman soldiers come up to 319 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:55.919 the Jews and they give them all their equipment, their helmets, 320 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:57.960 their swords and everything, and they're like hey, ha ha, 321 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:00.240 and they're making fun of them. They're like, hey, you 322 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:02.000 carry this and all these kind of things. And then 323 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:05.960 Jesus takes everything and he says, yeah, let's do it. 324 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:07.759 Let's do it. So they carry it and they get 325 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:11.079 done with the mile, and then Jesus goes, you know what, 326 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:14.400 let's just carry it one more mile with them and 327 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:16.160 then all of a sudden, the Roman soldiers feel bad 328 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:18.960 and they go, you're just going to carry it an 329 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:21.559 extra mile and you don't have to. She's like, yeah, 330 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:23.880 we'd like to help you, even though they were like 331 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:25.640 making fun of them everything else. So at the end 332 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:28.279 of the second mile, about halfway through it, I guess, 333 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:30.319 one of the Roman soldiers goes, here, let me let 334 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.079 me carry that helmet. H and he takes it back, right, 335 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:34.880 and he goes, he goes, he goes, that looks really heavy. 336 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:37.559 I'm sorry, And all of a sudden it's just and 337 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:40.559 it's killing people with kindness. It's this idea that Jesus 338 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:42.720 is demonstrating the power of love. 339 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:44.920 Well, this is I think in our culture right now, 340 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:49.400 we have a sense of victimhood from so many people. Right, 341 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:56.000 A victim carries it a mile, right, A free man, 342 00:17:56.359 --> 00:18:01.279 a better man goes beyond right, right, That's that's it's 343 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:04.079 it's literally, you're a slave when you get up and 344 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:06.400 you have to obey the rules, but when you go 345 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:10.880 beyond that, you're just proving I'm a better man. I'm 346 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:14.039 a better man than you, right, right, that's what you're doing. 347 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:17.599 There's there's something to that that goes now. I can't 348 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:20.440 be a jerk about it and a snob, but it 349 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:23.400 is what you're doing right when when when you when 350 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:25.519 you are trying to start a fight, the Book of 351 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:29.960 Proverbs says only by pride comes contention, right, and it's 352 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:34.079 two people. Bible talks about it takes two people to fight, right. 353 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:37.119 So if I decide not to fight, there's no fight. 354 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:39.799 Hit me in a face it makes you feel good 355 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:42.519 in the moment. Pow, you punch me because you want 356 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:44.799 to fight with me, and then I just offer the 357 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:46.400 other one man, if that made you feel good, hit 358 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:46.920 this one. 359 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:48.640 Right. 360 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:50.599 As I say it means, I'm not going to be 361 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:53.720 baited down to your level. I'm rising above you. I'm 362 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:56.319 rising above the way you're choosing to live. I'm going 363 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:59.000 to go you can. You can require me one mile. 364 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:01.880 I'm your slave when I go to I'm a free 365 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:03.440 man doing whatever I want to do because I'm a 366 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:06.400 better man. Right, I turned my other cheek. I'm not 367 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:08.519 going to be baited into going down to your level. 368 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:12.559 I'm rising above you, and that that's really not above 369 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:16.240 you as a human, but above your behavior. My behavior 370 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:18.559 is going above your behavior. I'm going to be a 371 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:19.000 better man. 372 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:22.279 And I don't think that that's It can't be misinterpreted 373 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:25.279 as let people walk all over you. No, And it 374 00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:29.200 can't be interpreted as in any fight, it's it's wrong 375 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:31.359 to defend yourself no, or fight back. 376 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:33.960 This isn't This is an open handed slab. That's this 377 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:36.880 is an offensive slab. How dare you right? 378 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:37.519 That's what it is. 379 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:39.960 It's trying to start the fight. It's not actually the fight. 380 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:43.440 Yeah, it's right, it's right, And that's exactly correct. It's 381 00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:44.799 like in the old days when they would take a 382 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:45.480 white glove. 383 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:48.920 And that's exactly offer the other one. Yeah, I'm not 384 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:49.519 going to fight. 385 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:52.240 You go ahead, and so yeah, so I mean, don't 386 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:55.759 misinterpret me when I say if i'm if, i'm if 387 00:19:55.799 --> 00:19:58.000 I'm going to practice turning the other cheek. That doesn't 388 00:19:58.039 --> 00:20:00.160 necessarily mean that if you come and try to beat 389 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:01.640 me up, I'm gonna let you beat me up. Oh. 390 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:03.680 The Bible is really clear on this. So you know, 391 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:06.640 Eddie asked us questions about the law. One of the 392 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:09.839 one of the laws, and those passages talks about if 393 00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:12.720 somebody breaks into your house and you struggle with them 394 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:15.680 to protect yourself, your family or your property and they die, 395 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:19.680 you're not guilty, right, right, So this idea self defense 396 00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:23.440 is perfectly legit. It's okay to protect ourselves. God doesn't 397 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:25.200 expect us to be weak, and he doesn't expect us 398 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:29.000 to be walked over. But this is not that, right, 399 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:31.599 this is this is not as salt, that's right, and 400 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:34.680 let's be let's be honest. Our definition socially today of 401 00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:37.480