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Hey friend, listen. I know the world is scary right now. Corruption, war, inflation, demographics,

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degeneracy, disease, unrest, hatred and despair. We didn't come here to tell you how it is,

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that it's going to get way better. Better by Bitcoin. Fantastic way to start your Tuesday

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afternoon. Thank you everybody for diving into this episode of Better by Bitcoin. I'm

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here with Bondor and Mr. Seim who have not seen in a minute because he's been a gallivanting

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across the globe. Good to see you guys. The intro hits different after a week or less three days of

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riots. It's interesting. It's been a while. What's the temperature over by you guys? I just was up

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in the bay and I was driving down yesterday and I stopped at a Starbucks and just ordering

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Starbucks. I was like, where are you going? I was literally in the middle of nowhere in Northern

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California. I was like, I'll go back down. He's like, oh, is it even safe to go down there? I was

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like, wow, man. I was like, I'm pretty confident it's safe. I'm sure it's media overblown and hype

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and that was correct. It's just kind of wild though how the media totally captures anyone

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and everyone's belief system about anything and just kind of blows it up. It makes sense to

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the terror people can feel, hashtag COVID, about anything and everything. It's just kind of weird.

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I know you were back kind of before this right stuff was happening, but I'm just kind of curious,

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Anson, from your travels, is there any similarities in what I was saying about the

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people being terrorized about something that was kind of being hyperventilated over in the media,

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but maybe wasn't true in IRL, in the meat space? Yeah. I was just in Israel and the first night

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that I was in Tel Aviv, we got a rocket alert. I was staying on the 17th floor of a hotel.

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It was at 3 a.m. It was the Houthis had fired a missile at Tel Aviv. So Israel has the ability

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to shoot down most of them, like every once in a while one will sneak through, but for the most

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part, they're going to shoot it down if it's going to go at a major populated area. So that doesn't

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make you feel safe, but the actual atmosphere around Tel Aviv feels incredibly safe. There's

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kids out 10, 11 p.m. riding scooters around the city. There's very low crime. So a friend of mine

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who was with me on the trip said that he felt safer in Tel Aviv than he would feel in downtown

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Los Angeles right now, even with rocket attacks going on. But I do have a little bit of a

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differing opinion. I live just north of downtown, but in a neighborhood that I very specifically

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chose because it has geographical boundaries that make a riot basically not going to happen

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in my neighborhood. But oftentimes I do drive through downtown Los Angeles to go to the airport

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and protesters will almost always shut down sometimes the 110 freeway, sometimes the 101

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freeway. And if you were driving through there and they're all of a sudden throwing bricks and rocks

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at the freeway, that could be incredibly dangerous for you. So it is overblown because the riots are

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taking place in a very specific place downtown, but in some ways it's not overblown because if

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you happen to be in downtown or if you live downtown, then there's going to be a lot of

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trouble for you. Also, they're absolutely, from like an aesthetic standpoint, they've absolutely

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destroyed downtown. Everything is covered in ACAB and F12 and all this stuff all over.

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So that is terrible. And then one other thing that did piss me off this week is that people

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were trying to assemble protests in my neighborhood on our neighborhood Facebook groups.

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And they're like, oh, it's a peaceful protest, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, but a riot is actively

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going on. So you're assembling a peaceful protest while there's this atmosphere of rioting, which I

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just feel like is a recipe for disaster. And of course, there were some elements of like teenage

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kids who are spray painting in my neighborhood now. So even though my neighborhood is completely

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separate from it, is it separate from it? Because that same like mental virus is even getting into

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nicer areas like where we live.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, the thing with the downtown LA too, just that there's no secure freeway in downtown LA.

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You like the 101 in particular, it's a lowered freeway. And it's like literally a sidewalk,

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a wall, the freeway. Anybody can just like launch anything into the freeway at any time anyway.

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Like just out of principle, that section should be avoided always because it's just ridiculous.

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But then, you know, there's also the cool development that has been rumored about for

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years, which is like, oh, let's cap the freeway, put in a park, like make it beautiful, like all

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this stuff. But welcome to California where they can't even build anything.

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Is it the fourth street or the sixth street bridge? The one that has the like comes off of

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the 101 and then another 110 and like swoops into the city and you have the over thing.

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We used to shoot there all the time. And it always blows my mind, like all of those images that

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you're getting of the riot because of where they're happening. It's like they're cinematic

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and they're beautiful because that's where people shoot like movies all the time because of the way

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it looks. And so it's just kind of like, you know, I'm not saying they're fabricated. Right.

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But what I am positing as a question is like, why was that spot taken? And I'm sure it's because,

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you know, people know whoever, you know, the media or whoever that that is a great place to take

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photographs. Just like I mean, and it's it's also I mean, there's a lot of federal buildings

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down there like that's the civic core, right? Like right below Bunker Hill is a civic core.

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Yeah. So, you know, it's just like, oh, yeah, let's do it there. And it's also not it's not

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you know, there are apartments there. There are people who live there. But like,

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man, after COVID, COVID destroyed downtown LA. It was incredible, incredible. And then COVID just

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destroyed it. Yeah, I remember driving there anymore. There's nothing Yeah, it's like all

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the big establishments like there's still some like Kohl's and things like that are still there.

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But a lot of the places that I would drive by, like, I'm surprised it's like, wait, was it like

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the world's like largest bookstore or whatever it is? That's downtown. It's like, I'm surprised

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some of these places are still even oldest, the last bookstore. Yeah, there it is. Yeah. And it's

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like, I just feel bad for those establishments. Because all of this unrest, it kind of does three

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things. One is that street that they're on, as I was just saying about like the shooting being

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films, not being guns. But people would shoot there all the time like that, that street,

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it's like you usually have to book it out to three, maybe even like four weeks in advance.

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And sometimes even longer if you're doing like a bigger production to get that particular location.

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So it's kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face, where all these productions that

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are leaving LA are giving even are given even more of a reason to leave LA because you can't even

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anticipate what's going to be happening on any given Sunday, I was just, you know, shooting

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in another part of California. And, you know, one of the topics of conversation on set,

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it was just like all of the stuff that's leaving LA because it's so much cheaper to shoot in Georgia,

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or it's so much more stable to shoot in Toronto, or wherever it is. And so it's just kind of this,

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you know, you know, Gavin is spending all this time beloviating about wanting to get arrested,

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because he wants to use it for his 2028 campaign, like let's call a spade a spade. Because I mean,

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can't look how great it did for Trump. But it's one of those things that it's like, dude,

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you are, I don't know your end game in this, because this does not turn out well for California

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when our number one export is entertainment. And we can't even do that here. Like it's wild.

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Yeah, there's also a whole, you know, conversation to be had about

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just how close to, like the forefront of so many things California is, and then the riots and

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everybody leaving and COVID and everybody and the shutdowns and like, outrageously retarded

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communist politics here. Well, of course, everyone's gonna leave. But California has

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been at the forefront of all of this for so long. And it's like, there's Lindy effects there that

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are not going to go away anytime soon. And so there's this really, there's this real dynamic

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of like, nobody kind of really knows what, like how, how strong those Lindy effects are, and how

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much of a pool like, oh, we just flip the lever, and then everyone comes back. It's like, well,

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maybe, maybe not. Because we've really burned so many bridges.

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For those who don't know, what is the Lindy effect? Can you kind of break it down real quick?

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Yeah, the Lindy effect is just momentum. If something has been going in this particular

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direction for this long, the expectation is that it will continue in that direction

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for at least that long.

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I have some thoughts, like specific thoughts about these current riots. And as we're recording this,

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it is Tuesday, June 10. So I don't know when people are gonna be listening to this. But

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there were essentially four days rioting. And a lot of people were up in arms because Trump

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released first 2000 National Guard, then it was 700 Marines. And I forget what the exact numbers

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are right now. But a couple things were going on. Number one, the National Guard was sent to

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downtown Los Angeles for one reason, and one reason only, and that was to protect federal

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buildings. The National Guard was not sent to protect downtown Los Angeles to stop protesters

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or do anything like that. So when you see videos of guys yelling at the cops, they are essentially

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yelling at a National Guard saying, we want to destroy this building and you're standing in our

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way. They're not saying you're violating my rights in any way. They're saying we want to do violence

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and you're trying to stop us from doing violence against this particular building. So that's the

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first thing. Second, the cops were told to stand down. So when you see the cops hiding under an

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overpass and there are guys waving Mexican flags, literally trying to kill them, throwing bricks on

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top of cop cars and lighting cars on fire and the cops aren't doing anything, it's because the

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government of California told the cops they are not allowed to stop the protesters. Yep.

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I just wanted to say that because I feel like most people don't know that.

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Yeah. And then there's also the whole other dynamic of, well, why are these things happening?

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Why are these crazy riots happening in the first place? Well, it's because I, you know,

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arrested 40 people and it was like, oh, well, everyone just assumes that they are day laborers

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or they're here to support their family or whatever it is. And it's like, no, these people

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are like the this is this. These were not regular raids. These were people who are cartel members

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who are dealing on doing unbelievable amounts of evil and are just here in pursuit of that.

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Right. And yet California politicians and everyone else, oh, those are the people we have to support.

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We have to support those people. I saw there was a bus that there's this picture of the bus. It's

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got like I think it's like thirty three Chinese nationals. This one was in Dallas. The people that

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they were deporting were convicted murderers and convicted rapists from China. Wow. And people think

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that the people that are getting rounded up are like the guys out picking strawberries in the

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field. Yeah. Like that's not what's going on right now. So at least get the facts straight.

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And it kind of sucks because we're going to get flack being three white guys talking about this.

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But the the TLDR is this is all just kind of a symptom of broken money, because if you know,

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and again, this is kind of the topic that you're here is if the money was not broken,

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there would actually be no reason to immigrate to the United States, because the main reason people

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come to the United States for prosperity and the reason they are trying to find prosperity

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is because we have the Cantillon effect. We are the best place to be because we are the money

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printer. That's like we are exporting our inflation to Bolivia or Venezuela or pick any country

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because we are number one. And so the biggest issue right now is the reason we have such an

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influx of immigration is because people want to come here because they do want a better life.

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And I'm not arguing that that opportunity is here, but it is a challenge because

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at the end of the day, they're having to make a big decision, kind of like the original pioneers

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that came over here, like, hey, I'm going to leave everything I know to go somewhere else

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to try to make some money to send it back home. And, you know, the number of times I've talked

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to Uber drivers, like I talked to an Uber driver one time from Kazakhstan and he was like, hey,

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and Tajikistan. And he was like, hey, or one of the stands, I can't remember which one it was.

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He's like, no, I come over to the United States, I work for two months and I go home and I live

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like a king because the currency arbitrage is so high that he can literally work for two months

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a year. So basically within the terms of his visa, just pay somebody to use their Uber account

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because that's what he did. I'm like, hey, you're not Steve or whatever it was. And you just kind

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of that's how that happens. It's such an unfortunate byproduct of a broken money system.

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And honestly, we're seeing the cracks finally start to form on, you know, the general balance

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sheet of the market. But it's really, really unfortunate that, you know, the ire right now

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is put on the border patrol person or the ire is pointed at, you know, whoever it may be when the

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ire really needs to be pointed at the central bankers and it really needs to be pointed at

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Congress as well. Right. Like Congress is 100 percent at fault because if you're a career

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politician, you have like, you know, any career politician, you have seen inflation spike 10,

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30, 60, 100 percent in your in your tenure in Congress. Like you are 100 percent to blame here.

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You have nobody else to blame except for yourself. Like one of the things that blows my mind about

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the riots is and you guys have seen these memes. It's like. The picture of the cop car is getting

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pelted with with bricks and rocks. Right. And it's like the caption is my tax dollars.

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And then you like look at the riot, like the people writing like somehow also my tax dollars.

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And it's like then the National Guard, also my tax dollars and the the Marines, also my

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tax dollars. And then all the the writers who are like the organization and the the

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nonprofits and NGOs that are like funding participation and and handing out flyers

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and doing all that are also funded by your tax dollars. And so it's like all of this is just

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so broken money. Like the only reason any of this exists is broken. And then also,

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of course, like the Craigslist ads, they're like, oh, yeah, we're looking for tough guys

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to show up in downtown and. Might have to do with confrontation and blah, blah, blah, it's like

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we'll pay you eight thousand dollars a week or whatever it was for six thousand to to fourteen

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thousand dollars a week. We'll pay you to show up to be a writer like, bro, under under under

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only under broken money. Would anyone find that that is is a useful way to spend money

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only under broken money? Could you have enough money to even spend it on all these things?

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Only under broken money are all these systems like this. It's like so insanely broken. And

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nobody, not a single one of the people involved of all the people I just listed get it. They're

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all just like, yeah, but I'm getting my paycheck and hey, it's like, bro, the person you're you're

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literally pointing a gun at another person who's who is they're getting a paycheck to fight you.

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And the source of those paychecks is the same place. It's bonkers. I'm just gonna say bonkers

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a lot. If the money wasn't broken, the guys that are standing there waving a Mexican flag saying

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Mexico is the greatest culture ever would not be in Los Angeles. If you could be in Mexico,

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make a good income, save your money, not have to worry about it being stolen by inflation,

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taxation, confiscation. And Mexico is the greatest country ever. Those guys would be in Mexico or

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they'd be in Venezuela or they'd be in Ghana or they'd be in China, whatever country that they

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want to live in the culture of, you know, if they want to be within their ethnicity or within their

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culture, they can be in those places. We're going to get back to that time period. Right now,

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the U.S. offers opportunity. People can come and make money. No matter what people say,

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the U.S. has a culture and has a great culture. A lot of people want to come and take advantage of

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that, but they don't want to assimilate into the culture. And so the reason that they come here is

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because the money is broken. Right now, the U.S. has the global reserve currency. There are lots

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of social programs that they can come and take advantage of. In California, people don't know

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this. You can get unemployment and you can be a non-citizen. You can be an illegal alien of the

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United States and you can still qualify for unemployment, disability, paid parental leave,

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all these different programs. If you're a homeless person, you can get thousands of dollars a month

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for being homeless. None of this requires you to be a citizen, to pay taxes, none of that. So why

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wouldn't you come to one of the greatest places geographically, climate-wise, in the world,

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and that's exactly what people have done. And live in a five-star hotel for free,

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which is exactly what happens. It's crazy. Yeah. That is, I think, honestly,

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the thing that's the most frustrating here in the whole thing. Individuals need to be judged

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on their individual character. That's what's called spades, spades. That being said, Tom

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Hauman is in between a rock and a hard place because at the end of the day, and he always

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answers his questions correctly, it's like, if you're breaking the law, you're breaking the law.

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If I were to just go to Japan and be a gaijin and just walk into Japan and be like, hey, you're

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going to owe me all this stuff. I think I can't remember the guy. It's like Johnny Somali or

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whatever it is, the guy who was going around in Japan and causing a ruckus. And they basically

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arrested him and deported him. Yeah, that should happen. Because at the end of the day, you are

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coming in and trying to impose your culture and trying to impose unrest on a homogenous group of

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people, whether it be Japan, whether it be Thailand, whether it be Dubai, whatever it is,

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you have to play by the rules of the place that you're in. Because if you can't agree on the

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rule book, then the rules don't matter. And I think that's the thing that's the biggest

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frustration for me in this whole thing is at the end of the day, we still have to show our passport

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when we go to any country in the world. And yet our politicians are saying that it is not important

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for you to show your passport to come into our country. Oh, by the way, it's not even important

00:20:22.800 --> 00:20:26.239
for you to show it to get here. We will give you handouts. We'll give you free health care. We'll

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give you free food. We'll give you free lodging. We'll give you free everything. Whereas when I

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want to go somewhere else, it's like I'm paying hundreds, if not thousands of dollars to go there

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and then just like scraping together some money for a mediocre meal at best. And so it's really,

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really frustrating, this entire situation. And it is 100% manufactured because we don't have a good

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measuring stick. That measuring stick is money. And the reason that that measuring stick is money

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is because if you want apples and I don't really have any apples to give you right now, well,

00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:05.520
then I can give you some money and buy those apples later. Or if you have apples, then you

00:21:05.520 --> 00:21:13.119
want to give them to Anton or Cleve or anybody like myself. If they don't want them right now,

00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:17.439
your apples are going to go bad. And so the measuring stick of money was created to

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be a store of value and a medium of exchange to solve a very human problem. It's a technology.

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Money is a technology. And so it's really, really... We're at a sad point in human history

00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:36.560
when we have a group of political elite who refuse to let a dying technology die.

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Fiat currency is a dying technology and it needs to die. Because as soon as Fiat technology,

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or sorry, Fiat money dies, everything gets better for everyone. Bitcoin, hard money is the rising

00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:57.359
tide and everything gets better for everyone. And it's not going to be overnight. But honestly,

00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:00.959
if we flipped onto a hard money standard overnight, it actually would be overnight

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because people think completely differently the way that they spend hard money than they do soft

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money. And that actually even goes to... And sorry, I'm rambling. But that even goes to credit

00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:14.160
card companies. Credit card companies want you to do the new thing now, which is tap.

00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:19.359
Because they know if you tap, you spend 4% more, which if you dipped, they knew that you would

00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:23.599
spend 4% more. And they knew that if you would swipe, you would spend 4% more. And so you're

00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:29.839
spending 12% more than you would spend if you spend cash because of the technology that they've

00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:35.680
given you to make that transaction less painful. It's all this stuff that is really frustrating

00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:42.000
because it's this vicious cycle of, at the end of the day, the monetary layer, the monetary

00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:48.160
technology, the base layer of how we value things is broken. And we're more worried about the fact

00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:53.199
that, oh, you wronged me because of X, Y, Z reason. Oh, by the way, I'm being paid by somebody

00:22:53.199 --> 00:22:57.520
who actually is getting money for free. And so they're telling me to throw this rock at you.

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And so it's like people are treating symptoms, but they're not going to the problem. And the

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problem is the money. Yep. And then they're papering over the actual problem with these

00:23:11.199 --> 00:23:18.959
false solutions and these false narratives about it too. Like, oh, why are you rioting? Well,

00:23:19.040 --> 00:23:26.640
I'm rioting because I stand against the imperialist nature of shutting down immigration and

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the US taking over this land and blah, blah, blah, and just goes on and on and on. It's all

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just BS. Like literally none of it makes any sense. If you analyze any of it, none of it makes

00:23:37.199 --> 00:23:44.400
any sense. And yet that's the thing. It's like these weird, I think at some point, and then

00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:50.719
you get challenged for, oh, how dare you stand against my ancestral land? How dare you do

00:23:50.719 --> 00:23:56.880
whatever the thing is that you've done? And the term for it is called a struggle session,

00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:05.280
which is the Maoist like, no, no, no. We would just assault somebody with ideological garbage

00:24:05.280 --> 00:24:09.040
for hours and hours and hours and just make them go through this thing. And it's all just lies on

00:24:09.040 --> 00:24:13.599
lies and lies on lies and lies. And there's no getting to the bottom of it. And there's no

00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:18.239
ending it. And it just goes on and on and on. The only like solution is just like not engaged.

00:24:18.239 --> 00:24:23.680
You'd be like, no, you're a retarded communist. Sorry, we're moving on. Sorry that happened to

00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:34.319
you. But the thing that's crazy is that it's so effective that you can't break through to anybody.

00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:41.199
It's so impossibly hard to be like, hey, look, here's the solution. I don't want a solution.

00:24:41.280 --> 00:24:46.800
I want to be bad. Right. You're just like, come on, guys. It's all of it's available to us right

00:24:46.800 --> 00:24:53.760
now, today, today. The only thing stopping you from ending all this is literally you.

00:24:53.760 --> 00:24:57.599
You can literally just put yourself on a Bitcoin standard and be done with it all

00:24:57.599 --> 00:25:04.479
like today, right now. Anton, I'm curious your take on this slant to this as a documentarian,

00:25:04.479 --> 00:25:10.880
right, as a filmmaker, as a director, you know, as a TV. How important is it to.

00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:21.439
Genuinely tell stories and tell parts of stories that you don't like in pursuit of truth,

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because I'm curious, because I'm sure you guys, you know, as you're working through the process

00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:28.079
of like getting to a story, you probably get some stuff that's like, oh, I don't like that.

00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:31.599
But like, how important is it to be like, well, even though we don't like it, it's actually

00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:43.280
important. As a filmmaker, you make a movie is expensive, and in order to get the money to make

00:25:43.280 --> 00:25:49.119
a movie, you have to sell that movie to somebody who is going to give you the money to make that

00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:54.880
movie in order to sell a movie, you have to say this is the direction that we're taking this

00:25:54.880 --> 00:26:00.400
story. So if it's a documentary, you say this is our point of view. This is this movie is

00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:04.479
essentially propaganda for something. We're going to make it for that thing. But then there's this

00:26:04.479 --> 00:26:08.000
other thing that happens in production. This happens in narrative movies, and it happens

00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:16.560
in documentary movies. Things just happen, and that becomes the story. So an actor might act

00:26:16.560 --> 00:26:21.520
in a certain way that you didn't expect, might start crying in a scene. Now that's what that

00:26:21.520 --> 00:26:26.959
character does. In documentary, oftentimes you end up discovering things that you didn't even

00:26:26.959 --> 00:26:32.479
know existed. So no matter what is written on the page, whatever gets filmed, whatever happens in

00:26:32.479 --> 00:26:40.479
the heat of production, that becomes the movie. And so there is truth that just supersedes whatever

00:26:40.479 --> 00:26:46.400
thing, whatever slant that you want to take. For me as a filmmaker, I'm a bit of a purist.

00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:53.680
So I, and this is just me, is my personal values. I want to pursue the truth, the truth that I find.

00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:59.119
So I come at it looking through the lens that I have, but I also come at it with an open mind

00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:05.760
to find out what is actually going on. And so there's something, I mean, I often say that God

00:27:05.760 --> 00:27:11.119
loves movies, because first of all, it's a miracle that any movie ever gets finished. But there are

00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:17.040
these things that happen when you're making a movie that just seem orchestrated by God. And sometimes

00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:24.800
those happen on movies that you wouldn't think have godly biblical type values. And yet

00:27:25.520 --> 00:27:30.000
these things happen. I'll just give one recent example that I watched. The Florida Project,

00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:35.680
there's this moment where these two little girls walk into frame and there's a rainbow overarching

00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:40.880
the entire hotel. That was just a real rainbow that happened. They were at lunch, they saw it,

00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:44.400
and they grabbed the cameras. They said, hey, are the girls ready? Just have them walking

00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:50.000
into the frame. And it just kind of goes with the whole story of the movie. And that movie has a

00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:55.119
really dark story. It's about a mom who is essentially broke living in a motel who becomes

00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:59.839
a sex worker and has a daughter who's getting taken away from her by CPS. Kind of a dark movie.

00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:07.040
It's also a comedy. But that movie somehow got made. It's a miracle that it got made. And it

00:28:07.040 --> 00:28:13.280
has these moments in it that are like just moments of truth that were orchestrated by the hand of

00:28:13.280 --> 00:28:18.079
god. So I don't know if that answers your question, but that's the way that I see it.

00:28:21.520 --> 00:28:31.760
It kind of does. And it's circling back to the current state with the riots. I'm curious

00:28:32.479 --> 00:28:40.079
y'all's take on... I don't necessarily know if the word is a solution,

00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:47.280
but it's like, does it need to get worse before it gets better? And can it get better

00:28:48.719 --> 00:28:53.280
with the way things are now? Does something have to change or can we just keep going down this path

00:28:53.280 --> 00:28:58.400
and it eventually will get better? I mean, Anton, I love what you just said. In answering your

00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:03.839
question, Jay, I love what you just said, Anton, about there's this hand of god aspect to it.

00:29:04.560 --> 00:29:13.040
Right? For instance, I mean, this is just a stupid thing, but it happened. It's out there.

00:29:13.040 --> 00:29:19.280
Like when the riots first started, there's a video of a police officer shoving a chair into

00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:25.199
the rioters like, hey, we're forming a line, get the debris out of the way. And the chair just

00:29:25.199 --> 00:29:31.439
happens to be... If you were to buy that chair new right now, it's a $2,000 chair. It's the

00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:38.800
Aeron chair. Right? But then you're thinking about this, you're like, wait a second,

00:29:38.800 --> 00:29:43.760
like in the Bitcoin space, there's a meme, which is sell your chairs and buy Bitcoin.

00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:49.280
And it's like something like that. And this is neither here nor there, whatever. It's just a

00:29:49.280 --> 00:29:55.760
thing that happened, but it rings like maybe all of the riots and all the things we're going through

00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:02.079
are just... We're just going to see this on repeat until people start to understand what's

00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:07.280
actually happening. And I think we're already making strides in that. Consider these riots,

00:30:07.280 --> 00:30:16.479
how you feel about them inside versus the summer love riots. Right? How do you feel differently?

00:30:16.479 --> 00:30:21.920
I personally, I was like, whoa, this is crazy. We got to look out, be careful, be safe.

00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:27.439
I'm like, is this... These riots feel like these people are the dumbest people

00:30:28.560 --> 00:30:34.239
out there. And nobody's on board with that. It's like, no, you guys are being dumb.

00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:41.920
If you were at all intelligent about this, you would never have stood on all those cars and

00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:47.280
the burning cars, burning Waymo's and waved a Mexican flag. You would have been waving an

00:30:47.280 --> 00:30:52.239
American flag because you love America and you want to be here. Right? It's like, no,

00:30:52.239 --> 00:30:59.040
you're not winning. You have not won any points from anybody. If these riots are nominally about

00:31:00.239 --> 00:31:05.920
immigration, which they're supposed to be about, right? Well, you've proven that you're not worthy

00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:12.160
of being here because of that. I mean, maybe you are worthy being here, right? Maybe you have

00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:17.040
a whole awesome character, et cetera, et cetera. And you're contributing all the rest of it.

00:31:17.040 --> 00:31:24.560
That's cool. But like, bro, the imaging, you've lost the plot. And it just speaks to this idea

00:31:24.560 --> 00:31:29.119
of like, wait a second, whether or not it's true. It speaks to the idea of like, this is

00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:35.839
orchestrated. This is a hundred percent, like not organic, not for other purposes. It's literally

00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:41.680
some guy, whatever the, and they found the guy who's funding this stuff. It's like, okay,

00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:47.280
if you're buying into this man, you've got to wake up. You've got a lot of rabbit holes to go down.

00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:56.640
Yeah. It's really tough on the immigration side because at the end of the day,

00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:02.079
you know, it's like, I want everybody to have the best life. Like I'm, you know,

00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:06.319
and I'm gonna use the word privilege. I don't actually believe in the privilege argument

00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:11.520
because I think there's, you know, they're just decks. There's just hands that you're dealt,

00:32:11.520 --> 00:32:17.359
right? And you need to make the decision whether to get up and go out and do something. You know,

00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:21.520
everybody can make that decision. You can decide to do this or not do that.

00:32:21.520 --> 00:32:25.680
There are opportunities, right? People have different opportunities and you can argue that

00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:30.400
a particular opportunity puts you in a privileged position over somebody else. But at the end of

00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:37.439
the day, everyone has the opportunity to go out and do stuff for the most part. And the challenge

00:32:37.439 --> 00:32:40.000
right now and the frustrating thing for me is all these people are arguing about it's like,

00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:47.280
oh, this was once Mexico. Well, it's not Mexico now. And so we're in this position where you can

00:32:47.280 --> 00:32:54.640
argue that, but if I were to go to Tijuana or, you know, Mexico city and argue that this was

00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:59.520
once California because technically it was part of Mexico. And so let's just argue the inverse

00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:04.000
of like, well, we should just be a United California again. And I don't really care that

00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:08.640
you're Mexico. Like I want you to be part of the United States because you were once California

00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:12.719
and California is not part of the United States. Like people laugh at me. I probably, you know,

00:33:12.719 --> 00:33:22.239
I'd probably be dead. And so just this frustrating piece of, you know, people really, really not

00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:29.520
understanding that at the end of the day, most people, I think want the best for everyone.

00:33:29.520 --> 00:33:33.040
They want the best for other people. There are some people who don't, but I'd say most people

00:33:33.040 --> 00:33:35.520
are generally good people and they generally want the best for everyone.

00:33:36.560 --> 00:33:41.280
But where that starts is somewhere. And it's like, for us in America, it's the constitution

00:33:41.280 --> 00:33:45.760
of the bill of rights. And so if you want to be respected and you want to actually have the,

00:33:45.760 --> 00:33:50.079
you know, privileges, because that is a set of privilege, like privileges or something

00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:53.920
are bestowed upon you by someone, the privileges of the constitution of the bill of rights.

00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:56.400
Well, that comes with being a citizen that comes with being here legally,

00:33:56.400 --> 00:34:00.880
that comes with following the rules. Like you don't get access to the rules if you're

00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.079
breaking the rules. And like, that's the issue here is like, I'm not going to get afforded the

00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:10.320
same opportunity or the same rules if I go to Italy or Germany or Spain or South Africa or

00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:15.280
Australia. And I wouldn't expect that because, again, I'm not paying for that system.

00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:23.040
They have different rules and regulations, but it's just, you know, misguided to be arguing about

00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:29.520
you want something that candidly you don't have any claim to. And, you know, and I'm just saying

00:34:29.520 --> 00:34:34.080
as a matter of fact, I'm not saying that as an act of judgment on any of these people,

00:34:34.080 --> 00:34:40.639
but it's like, you know, you can't. You couldn't expect somebody to go to your house and wherever

00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:45.040
and take your stuff and then not be upset about it. And that's kind of where I was like,

00:34:45.040 --> 00:34:48.479
as a taxpayer, if you're in the United States and somebody's here illegally, they're stealing from

00:34:48.479 --> 00:34:53.439
you. Like it's just like brass tacks. That is the case. You are stealing from taxpayers.

00:34:53.439 --> 00:35:04.719
And that's frustrating. The the ninety two riots in that time period, those people that were

00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:10.639
burning down Los Angeles thought that they were doing the right thing in the George Floyd riots

00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:13.919
in twenty twenty, the people that were burning down Los Angeles thought they were doing the

00:35:13.919 --> 00:35:18.959
right thing in twenty twenty five. And these riots, the people that are out there lighting

00:35:18.959 --> 00:35:24.320
Waymo cars on fire, they think they're fighting for a righteous cause. But also at the same time,

00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:31.120
a lot of them are are pretty young and they're just looking for something to do. They don't

00:35:31.120 --> 00:35:36.639
have anything better to get paid to. Right. They might be getting paid also, but it's fun. It's

00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:42.080
fun to throw a brick through a window. It's fun to go and loot the Apple store. Instruction is

00:35:42.080 --> 00:35:47.840
so fun. It's a get together in a group. Mob mentality takes over. You're you're thinking

00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:53.120
you're fighting some great cause when you reflect back on the ninety two riots. You're like, what

00:35:53.120 --> 00:35:58.159
positive change did that inspire? Or when you look back on the George Floyd riots, you're like,

00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:06.080
wow, did that make America better? No, not really. And that's exactly what's going to happen

00:36:06.080 --> 00:36:11.439
with these riots. I remember just to bring it back to Bitcoin. I remember during the George Floyd

00:36:11.439 --> 00:36:17.679
riots, it was kind of in that covid time period. And I remember I was totally, totally over covid

00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:25.280
at this time. But I remember the same people who were absolute Nazis about social distancing,

00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:31.520
mask wearing, being on lockdown, washing your groceries, not going into restaurants,

00:36:32.080 --> 00:36:37.600
were in huge groups chanting. They weren't wearing masks, which maybe they should have been

00:36:37.600 --> 00:36:42.320
when they're causing destruction because their identities are out there. And I remember thinking,

00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:46.560
like, wow, the same people that were saying stay at home are now out in the streets. Meanwhile,

00:36:46.560 --> 00:36:51.919
I'm staying at home. I'm not staying at home like on lockdown, but I just am not participating in a

00:36:51.919 --> 00:36:57.280
riot. I'm buying Bitcoin. I remember the price of Bitcoin went up. It was like 20 percent or

00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:00.479
twenty five percent during that time period. It went from like ten thousand to twelve thousand,

00:37:00.479 --> 00:37:04.879
something like that. I don't know. I might have more. I can't remember. All I know is that the

00:37:04.879 --> 00:37:09.679
price of Bitcoin is going up. And I was like, I bet during these riots, during this unrest,

00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:14.159
the price of Bitcoin is going to react in a positive way. And sure enough, we went straight

00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:20.159
back to all time high. Those people who are just looking for something to do there, they're even

00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:24.959
though they're it's not it takes a lot of effort to throw a brick at the same time. It's lazy to

00:37:24.959 --> 00:37:29.120
protest in the way that they are. They're not going to do the work that it takes to learn about

00:37:29.120 --> 00:37:34.320
Bitcoin. And so it's a huge wasted opportunity. They could be using that time productively to

00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:40.719
learn about Bitcoin, to earn money, to buy Bitcoin and participate in the growth of this

00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:45.919
thing, to see their own value, their own wealth increase. And instead, they're facing potential

00:37:45.919 --> 00:37:52.159
felonies. And you have drones circling around monitoring identities, triangulating where their

00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:57.679
phone is and Palantir. And they're going to have a rude wake up call when they go on vacation and

00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:01.120
they try to come back in the United States and they're banned from coming into the United States.

00:38:01.120 --> 00:38:06.879
And that will happen to a lot of people. Right. Like flying is a privilege,

00:38:06.879 --> 00:38:09.760
like you want to take our privileges, privileges are rights bestowed upon you by somebody else.

00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:15.679
Like flying is a privilege. You are you are at the privilege of the company that is allowing you to

00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:22.080
fly, you know, or the privilege of the country that you're trying to go into. So I got so like

00:38:22.080 --> 00:38:29.199
bring us back to how does Bitcoin make us better? Bitcoin and these people don't realize this yet,

00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:36.399
but Bitcoin is the actual protest. Bitcoin is the actual solution to the thing that they want.

00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:42.479
They stand against immigration. Well, if they all adopted Bitcoin, there'd be no reason to

00:38:42.479 --> 00:38:47.120
immigrate anywhere because you would have all the opportunities that you want close to your family,

00:38:47.120 --> 00:38:51.679
close to your people, close to your culture. There's no reason because because your entire

00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:56.959
government is not def or inflating the currency or having a foreign government inflate a currency

00:38:56.959 --> 00:39:04.479
on top of you. Solves the problem. Right. And it's not to say that all or all immigration is

00:39:04.479 --> 00:39:09.520
is because of economic reasons, but most immigration is because of economic reasons.

00:39:09.520 --> 00:39:16.000
It's obviously the overwhelming majority of cases. Right. OK. So but then you go through

00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:20.959
all these things like, bro, if you just if you just stopped doing this, you wouldn't have any

00:39:20.959 --> 00:39:26.399
felony charges. You wouldn't be in the Palantir database for these offenses, et cetera, et cetera,

00:39:26.399 --> 00:39:32.959
et cetera. And you'd have more money. You look at and it's like, oh, well, how does this like

00:39:33.919 --> 00:39:39.199
everybody who owns Bitcoin is basically like, you know, unfortunately, in some way, but long riot

00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:45.600
because, well, what happens when people riot? They break windows, they loot businesses,

00:39:45.600 --> 00:39:51.360
they destroy public infrastructure, they cause all of this work that now needs to be done.

00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:54.800
What's the next thing that happens? Well, all of these companies, all these municipalities,

00:39:54.800 --> 00:39:59.600
they start claiming taking out claims against their insurance companies. What happens there?

00:39:59.600 --> 00:40:03.679
Well, the insurance companies are then underfunded. So the next thing they have to do is they have to

00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:08.080
go appeal to the Fed and appeal to their bankers and all the rest of that so that they can pay out

00:40:08.080 --> 00:40:14.320
their liabilities. Well, what is the Fed and the bankers do? Well, they print money. And what

00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:20.879
happens when you print money? Bitcoin goes up and it's like, what are we doing here, guys?

00:40:20.879 --> 00:40:28.239
There's an existing solution, which is Bitcoin to all of the protesting reasons. And instead of

00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:34.159
actually participating in the real protest, participating in the real solution, they just

00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:41.199
want to think they're literally by rioting and by committing acts of violence and destruction.

00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:47.520
They are just giving more and more and more power to the Bitcoiners who have already figured it out.

00:40:48.479 --> 00:40:53.040
Sorry. It's going to be game over once all the agencies with the Bitcoiners.

00:40:56.159 --> 00:41:02.879
I was looking at a chart earlier today about the retail FOMO cycles for Bitcoin. And again,

00:41:02.879 --> 00:41:09.280
I'm still a baby Bitcoiner, still new coming up here. And the current cycle is basically at a 45

00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:14.159
degree angle. And everybody's like, oh, this is the institutional stairstep. This is what

00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:20.959
institutions, how they buy stuff is they buy in big tranches and then it's like stairstep.

00:41:20.959 --> 00:41:27.280
And so it's like we're kind of getting that stairstep model here. And as somebody who

00:41:30.080 --> 00:41:36.320
firmly believes in the ability of sound money to change the entire world,

00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:42.959
I'm nervous that it's not going to change fast enough and we're going to continue to be

00:41:42.959 --> 00:41:48.959
frogs in a pot because we need the system to break. I guess that's the thing. One point for

00:41:48.959 --> 00:41:53.280
the rioters is we need the system to break. The challenge with the rioters, though, is they don't

00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:58.479
know what they're doing. They're just like, hey, pick up that rock and throw it. And they're like,

00:41:58.479 --> 00:42:01.840
cool, you're going to pay me to pick up that rock and throw it? Yeah, I'll pick up the rock and

00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:06.959
throw it. But it's so short-sighted that it's actually not solving any problems. All it's doing

00:42:06.959 --> 00:42:11.439
is enriching the insurance companies. And because the insurance companies are close to the money

00:42:11.439 --> 00:42:14.800
printer, it's just going to enrich the people at the insurance companies and the bankers,

00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.760
because the bankers will print more money because they can make more money from it.

00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:21.120
And the insurance companies will gladly take that money because they need that money to

00:42:21.120 --> 00:42:24.239
make their stock price go up. And if their stock price goes up and they can continue to make more

00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:27.760
money, it's like it's just this vicious cycle that they can then go out and pay more writers

00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:33.199
to do more riots because it's valuable. And so it sucks because just like you're saying,

00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:38.000
Bondor, they're missing the point. And that is one of the reasons why we have this show,

00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:42.719
is to try and paint the picture. And so I think that's one thing, maybe this is a good

00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:46.080
transition point to start going in there. Like, hey, how can we paint the picture?

00:42:48.399 --> 00:42:53.840
If you could talk to the writers right now, and let's assume they're not capable of understanding

00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:56.639
Bitcoin. So let's not even go around the ride or bike. You need to understand this.

00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:03.760
What would you say is a picture you could paint for somebody who is here illegally?

00:43:04.399 --> 00:43:09.840
And then also for somebody who is here just as a citizen, but what are the two pictures you could

00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:16.000
paint about the world at large, LA at large, Mexico at large? Because I'm using Mexico

00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.280
currently because that's the biggest point of contention is it's like people being

00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:25.919
deported back to Mexico. But how would you guys paint that picture of like, okay,

00:43:25.919 --> 00:43:30.159
we're on a Bitcoin standard. You don't understand what that means, but here's what it means if you

00:43:31.120 --> 00:43:35.199
can't really understand the Bitcoin standard part. Like, here's why this matters to you.

00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:38.959
Like, what would you explain to them of like, it gets better and this is what it looks like?

00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:48.639
When Laszlo paid $10,000 for two pizzas, it was Laszlo, right? A lot of people are like,

00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:56.399
what an idiot. That'd be worth like billions of dollars now. Well, who received the 10,000 Bitcoin?

00:43:56.399 --> 00:44:03.439
Somebody received it. And in a similar way, I saw a thing where the cost of sending Marines

00:44:04.080 --> 00:44:11.760
to Los Angeles was $135 million. All right, who received the $135 million? It went somewhere. It

00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:16.879
didn't just get burned. Then there's the other reality that the government is going to print

00:44:16.879 --> 00:44:23.280
money to pay that $135 million. When the government prints money, the value of assets,

00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:28.639
because we can tell in effect, go up first. Therefore, it's going to cause the price of

00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:35.919
Bitcoin to go up. So simply by holding Bitcoin, you see your wealth go up. So that's all just to

00:44:35.919 --> 00:44:42.719
say that the way that Bitcoin makes your life better is everything that happens, the positive

00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:46.879
and the negative are going to cause the price of Bitcoin to go up. It's going to cause the value

00:44:46.879 --> 00:44:52.080
of Bitcoin to go up. You're literally just going to get richer by holding Bitcoin and doing nothing

00:44:52.080 --> 00:44:58.639
else. So it makes your... Having more money gives you more freedom. Having Bitcoin gives you more

00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:05.919
freedom. Simply by owning and understanding Bitcoin, you become more free. I wanted to talk

00:45:05.919 --> 00:45:12.399
about what you're asking about Mexico, but that was a lot. So maybe Bontor, if you want to take

00:45:12.399 --> 00:45:18.399
over. I just wanted to get that out. I mean, I have a lot of difficulty with trying to explain

00:45:18.399 --> 00:45:24.639
it and trying to get it across to people because, I mean, as you guys have as well, we've been doing

00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:30.159
this for years. We've been literally... We've lost friends over this stuff because it's like

00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:36.639
we tell them in the simplest way possible, buy Bitcoin, it fixes this problem. And then we tell

00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:42.159
them in the most complicated technical way possible, Nakamoto consensus cannot be broken.

00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:47.679
And therefore, it means that we can have a non-inflationary currency and the non-inflationary

00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:54.000
currency affects our time preferences. Well, okay. Well, your time preferences are when you value

00:45:54.560 --> 00:45:58.159
the long-term over the short-term. If you have low-time preferences, you value the long-term

00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:03.040
over the short-term. High inflation means you'll always value the short-term over the long-term.

00:46:03.040 --> 00:46:07.360
When you value the short-term over the long-term, psychological reinforcement starts to kick in

00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:14.239
and you begin to do all sorts of ridiculous behavior because you can't think past

00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:21.600
the edge of your nose. And you give them these ultra short solutions, ultra long solutions.

00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:29.439
You bring in experts. You bring in nobodies. You bring in people who are no longer in poverty

00:46:29.439 --> 00:46:33.679
because of Bitcoin. You bring in... It doesn't matter who you bring in. Everyone's like,

00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:40.320
Ponzi scheme. I figured it out. It's a Ponzi scheme. Just complete, absolute dismissal.

00:46:40.399 --> 00:46:43.199
And JD goes to what you're saying. It's like this.

00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:49.280
They can't see it because their time preferences are too short.

00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:56.159
I mean, maybe the only solution is that eventually, and we know this is already going to happen.

00:46:56.159 --> 00:47:00.959
People are already building this product. Eventually, the entire banking system is just

00:47:00.959 --> 00:47:06.320
going to be running on top of Bitcoin anyway because of its ability to send. You can send

00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:11.679
any amount of money between any bank internationally and have final settlement.

00:47:12.399 --> 00:47:17.439
And you can do this on the Lightning Network too, which is, well, if we have a final settlement

00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:25.600
in a second, that completely changes all of global finance. Okay, well, then all of global finance

00:47:25.600 --> 00:47:30.959
is then running on a Bitcoin standard, whether or not you understand it. And at that point,

00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:37.439
that's when the time preferences start to kick in. And all of the entrepreneurs and business

00:47:37.439 --> 00:47:41.840
leaders who are closer to that system, those time preferences start to kick in.

00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:46.639
And we start to see products that are more long-term oriented. We start to see

00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:50.959
innovations that actually push towards that. And we start to see culture at that point

00:47:50.959 --> 00:47:58.479
start to push towards that direction. So, I mean, how do you communicate that to somebody? And how

00:47:58.479 --> 00:48:03.360
do you get them to believe it? Well, maybe you don't have to, but I certainly want to try.

00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:10.399
I'm reading the book right now, The Five Types of Wealth by Sahil Bloom. And

00:48:12.399 --> 00:48:16.800
kind of what you're talking about, where just kind of the world gets better

00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:25.439
and the time preferences are what do it, is it is a very, very powerful,

00:48:26.560 --> 00:48:31.360
you know, the way it's described online is a transformative guide to design your dream life.

00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:41.040
And it's like, I would say it's more than that. I would say it's an expose on understanding

00:48:41.919 --> 00:48:46.159
your priorities. And one of the things I talk about is your life razor that you

00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:53.120
talked about this topic. And your life razor, just like Occam's razor. Occam's razor is this

00:48:53.120 --> 00:49:01.040
theory that the simplest explanation is probably the true one. And the life razor concept that

00:49:01.040 --> 00:49:06.320
Sahil breaks down in this is you should have a life razor where it's like, if your life razor,

00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:13.360
for instance, was, if it takes me away from my kids, I don't do it. It's a very simple

00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:17.679
decision making framework that kind of pushes you in a direction that,

00:49:18.560 --> 00:49:21.520
you know, makes things easy. It cuts through things. It's a razor.

00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:28.479
One of the things that they say in there, and I'll land the plane on the way this is,

00:49:28.479 --> 00:49:35.120
but one of the things that he talks about is most people will probably only see their parents

00:49:35.120 --> 00:49:41.120
a handful of times before they die. Your parents, the average age is between 70 and 80 years old.

00:49:41.120 --> 00:49:46.320
If your parents are in their 60s, you probably only have 20 more times to see them before they

00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:50.719
die, before, you know, before they're gone. Or if they're in their 70s, maybe 10, you know,

00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:58.239
if you're only seeing them one time a year. When your time preference changes, your priorities

00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.840
change. It doesn't mean like a, like a load of bricks. Cause I'm like, wow, I'm going to see my

00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:05.919
mom X number of times. I'm like, all right. The first thing I did after doing this is I'm like,

00:50:05.919 --> 00:50:10.639
I need to change that. I don't only want to see my mom, you know, less than 10 more times before

00:50:11.439 --> 00:50:19.040
she dies. And this time preference shift and this understanding, this breakthrough for me

00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:26.639
comes to what these protesters are mad about is like the reason these people are mad as like, Hey,

00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:30.159
we want to stay in the United States. The reason they want to stay in the United States is because

00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:32.719
they want a better life. They want a better life for their family. They want a better life for

00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:36.000
their children. They want a better life for their kids. Well, guess what? That better life that you

00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:41.439
will make its way back to Mexico and all of Mexico would be better. All of Bolivia,

00:50:41.439 --> 00:50:46.879
all of Venezuela, all of Brazil, all of wherever will be better on a hard money standard because

00:50:46.879 --> 00:50:52.959
no one can steal from you period. There is more responsibility with that.

00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:59.040
And one of the things about responsibility is you can screw stuff up, right? You can make bigger,

00:50:59.040 --> 00:51:03.120
more costly mistakes. And there will be companies that come about that can kind of protect you from

00:51:03.120 --> 00:51:10.000
that to a degree and you will pay for that like Casa and stuff like that. But the net net here is

00:51:11.600 --> 00:51:18.800
they're arguing about deportation. Like that's this whole thing is the debate is deportation.

00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:21.919
You shouldn't be or you should be deported. That's the debate. I'm not

00:51:21.919 --> 00:51:24.479
casting any judgment on whether or not it's correct or incorrect,

00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:31.040
but the argument really should be, why are you here in the first place?

00:51:33.120 --> 00:51:38.800
And then the second question should be, what caused that? For most people, I would argue,

00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:41.360
why are you here in the first place is because you want a better life. Okay.

00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:45.120
Well, what's causing you to think that you can't get that better life in your country?

00:51:46.080 --> 00:51:49.520
Well, you can't make ends meet because there's not enough jobs or not enough whatever. And it's

00:51:49.520 --> 00:51:55.280
like, okay, well, what's causing that? And the answer is, and will be the fiat system.

00:51:55.919 --> 00:52:01.280
And until that changes, nothing will get better. And so the best way that you can help change that

00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:06.239
is take the power from the central bankers and buy Bitcoin.

00:52:07.919 --> 00:52:11.120
Correct. Well stated full points, 10 out of 10.

00:52:13.600 --> 00:52:21.120
So there's this thing called the bell curve. And basically there's a few geniuses. There are a few

00:52:21.120 --> 00:52:27.040
really low IQ people. Most people are kind of, of a general level of intelligence. So people are not

00:52:27.040 --> 00:52:33.520
dumb. Yeah. People are just kind of average. So when you see these protests and riots,

00:52:33.520 --> 00:52:36.239
there are a lot of people on the left side of the bell curve for sure.

00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:42.080
Some of the dumbest people are the guys like riding motorcycles straight into a wall of

00:52:42.080 --> 00:52:44.959
cops and just getting knocked up in a motorcycle and getting thrown in jail.

00:52:44.959 --> 00:52:48.080
That's the people on the left side of the bell curve. But a lot of these people

00:52:48.080 --> 00:52:53.360
are just average intelligence. And yet they're ignorant. They don't even know why they're

00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:59.439
rioting. A lot of my friends are posting on social media in support of these riots.

00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:05.919
And they're just ignorant. And essentially it's like, well, why have Bitcoiners figured out what

00:53:05.919 --> 00:53:12.560
is true and are Bitcoiners just smarter? And I don't think so. I think Bitcoiners tend to be

00:53:12.560 --> 00:53:18.959
of pretty average intelligence as well. It's just that Bitcoin has freed our minds from fiat.

00:53:19.919 --> 00:53:23.679
And so I kind of want to draw this back around to Mexico real quick.

00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:30.800
You see people waving Mexican flags. These ice raids, they're not just to grab all the

00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:36.000
Mexicans in the United States. They're just to grab illegal immigrants, a lot of whom

00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:43.360
are convicted criminals in other countries. 13 million people in the last 10 years snuck over

00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:51.840
the border through Mexico. Mexico is a pretty great country. It's a huge country. There's a lot

00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:58.479
of resources and value in Mexico. People love Mexican culture. It has a great culture. It just

00:53:58.479 --> 00:54:04.800
has a lot of dangers as well. And it has a fiat currency that has been inflated like crazy over

00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:14.159
the last 50 years. And it's very, very hard to make an income. When there's a Bitcoin standard,

00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:21.120
essentially, there will be a lot of incentive for people to live in Mexico. And yeah. So anyway,

00:54:21.120 --> 00:54:28.320
I just want to say all of that just to say, we don't hate Mexicans. That's not why these raids

00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:33.760
are going on. And yet I think people are just generally confused what is even going on because

00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:41.040
their brains are on a fiat standard. Yeah, a hundred percent. One of the things that I think

00:54:41.040 --> 00:54:52.719
is so exciting about Bitcoin is that it allows people to actually turn in and produce and create

00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:59.439
and contribute to their own culture and their own way of life, their own traditions. It doesn't force

00:54:59.439 --> 00:55:07.760
them into some other form of traditions and culture. The fiat system literally is forcing

00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:14.080
unbelievable amounts of people in South America and has been for decades, even more than the last

00:55:14.080 --> 00:55:22.080
10 years, to immigrate to America legally or illegally because it's destroying their local

00:55:22.080 --> 00:55:26.479
countries. Fiat currency is destroying the local country. That means it's destroying the local

00:55:26.479 --> 00:55:30.719
culture. That means it's destroying the local cuisine. That means it's destroying the local

00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:38.879
arts, music, anything, everything. When your demographics are basically just plummeting

00:55:38.879 --> 00:55:43.199
because all of your productive workforce are leaving and going somewhere else,

00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:48.399
you're going to have a terrible time preserving your culture and enriching your culture.

00:55:49.040 --> 00:55:53.919
However, if there's no reason for anybody to leave because they're on a hard money standard,

00:55:53.919 --> 00:56:01.040
nobody's robbing from you, your culture is going to start to accelerate and really improve.

00:56:02.959 --> 00:56:11.520
That compounds and compounds and compounds. At some point, travel is going to be too crazy because

00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:20.239
the cultures are going to be so immense. You'll be just overwhelmed by how immensely

00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:28.080
beautiful and wonderful some Bolivian cultural village is because they went to a Bitcoin standard.

00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:35.919
We have to get that vision in people's heads because this is the thing. The problem is fiat.

00:56:35.919 --> 00:56:43.439
That's what's causing all of the problems come from fiat. The solution is Bitcoin. The faster

00:56:43.439 --> 00:56:48.479
you make that jump, the faster your family, the faster your communities, your culture,

00:56:48.479 --> 00:56:49.840
everything you care about gets better.

00:56:52.399 --> 00:56:56.000
Let me make a crazy analogy real quick that that just made me think of.

00:56:57.120 --> 00:57:05.840
When you mix all the colors, you get brown. Brown can be beautiful. Brown is useful for some things,

00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:11.040
but you know what else? Purple's beautiful and red is beautiful and blue is beautiful.

00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:18.159
It's not always good to just mix everything all the time and have a world that and I'm

00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:22.560
using brown very deliberately. I'm not talking about skin color. I'm talking about cultures.

00:57:23.120 --> 00:57:31.679
I'm not talking about skin color. It is. There have been times in history and in our lifetimes

00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:38.159
when cultures have been more vibrant in certain places where they have been completely diffused

00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:46.320
and diluted and basically don't exist anymore. And fiat caused that. And as the rise of Bitcoin

00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:52.560
essentially takes over, I don't know what other term to use than when the world goes on a Bitcoin

00:57:52.560 --> 00:57:58.320
standard, those cultures are going to be able to be separated and become more vibrant again.

00:58:01.040 --> 00:58:05.600
We're in Pride Month and I say that to say there's such a

00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:11.360
distinct call for celebration of differences

00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:17.040
to a point. And that's frustrating because I totally agree with everything you're saying.

00:58:17.040 --> 00:58:23.120
And actually, brown is an interesting corollary because brown is also the color of dirt.

00:58:24.560 --> 00:58:31.919
And, you know, when things just kind of all emulsify as a one giant heap, it's just dirty.

00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:39.040
Right. Whereas on the counter of that is like Japanese culture is beautiful. You know,

00:58:39.600 --> 00:58:44.159
Mexican culture is beautiful, you know, and also delicious. Like there's like so many unique things

00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:52.080
like Bolivian cuisine and Portuguese cuisine and like Argentine, like just like beef. Like there's

00:58:52.080 --> 00:58:56.959
so many unique and amazing aspects to the uniqueness of culture. That's actually why I

00:58:56.959 --> 00:59:01.199
think one of the things that's the saddest part about America is like most of our food is just a

00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:07.120
bastardization of other cultures food. I mean, we have like pizza and hot dogs. But other than that,

00:59:08.080 --> 00:59:11.760
it's like there's not really a lot of like uniquely American food outside of like barbecue ribs.

00:59:14.560 --> 00:59:20.800
But like the uniqueness of cultures is beautiful. And I was talking about this, I think,

00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:23.679
last week on the on the pod. And I was also talking with somebody else about this.

00:59:25.439 --> 00:59:30.959
You know, this idea hasn't escaped me of the Tower of Babel, the Tower of Babel.

00:59:31.600 --> 00:59:35.439
When I looked at it at face value, I was like, oh, this was God. And if you're not familiar with

00:59:35.439 --> 00:59:39.919
the story, the story of Tower of Babel is all of the people of the world started building this

00:59:39.919 --> 00:59:43.840
tower. And they were building it because they wanted to touch the sky. They wanted to make this

00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:52.239
giant city, the sky city that everybody will look at. And God, when they were doing this,

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saw all of the people of the world collaborating and doing this. And so he struck down their

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capacity and capability to communicate with each other. And originally, when I saw that, I was like,

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oh, God is just trying to stop these people from like making themselves God, essentially.

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And what I actually think was happening there is God was actually saving us from ourselves because

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he was removing our desire to be one homogenous people, because that would not get us to the

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best place for all of humanity. And like, that's a really interesting thought to think about is

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actually God was saving us from ourselves because he knew we actually needed diversity of thought,

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diversity of ideas, diversity of everything to get humanity to its inevitable conclusion of when

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Jesus comes back. But the bigger piece of like to a better place. And so it's really interesting to

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kind of think about that, because I originally thought Babel was like, oh, God was trying to

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stop us from becoming gods. But also, if you think about it, we are God because we are like or rather

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we are like God. We are not gods, but like he made us in his image. So we have God within us.

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But the bigger piece of this is really unique and interesting is the thought of

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did he stop the people from doing this because he understood that the the conclusion of that was

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they would remove their uniqueness, their unique traits and values and water down all of the

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wonderful things that they would be able to do when they went and became more tribal and did

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the actual like propagating of Europe. So it's just interesting here of like

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riots tear things down. But when you really dig into it, you should really lean into your

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differences and lean into what you're unique and good at, because that's how you actually get

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beautiful and wonderful things that are unique and varied, you know, hashtag. This is why a lot

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of people don't like communism. Yeah, the well said, I think there's man, there's so many

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interesting ways to take that the. The image of a riot is really kind of just the image of what

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Fiat is like a riot is kind of like the end game of Fiat, it says we're not going to create anything,

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we're just going to steal, destroy. And what are you gonna do about it? Come on, fight me,

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right? Like, that's literally what Fiat is. And it like, those are the mechanisms Fiat uses.

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What are you gonna do about it? Come on, fight me. I have the aircraft carrier. So

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too bad you can't fight me. Right? So Fiat is the thing that is diluting all of our cultures.

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It's watering everything down. It's preventing you from participating in culture to the best of

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your ability into the to the most to be able to create the most beautiful things that you can

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create. That's what Fiat does. It destroys people's agency destroys their ability to

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do anything. It is a destroyer Fiat destroys when you hear Fiat, Fiat currency, you should think,

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oh, the reason this is just destruction, right? And Bitcoin is the exact opposite of that. It says,

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this is not we don't need to destroy it. Like we can preserve this value, we can preserve this

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agency, we can use that value and use that agency to create beautiful things to actually build up

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the world to actually create a better world to solve the real problems that are facing us and

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to move beyond them and actually improve humanity, make a better world for our children and the rest

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of it. Fiat base, you see this in the riots, like, oh, we're writing so that our kids can have a

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better solution, a better future. It's like, no, you're literally destroying the world your kids

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are going to inherit. And that's total Fiat thinking. There's there's no thinking beyond

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the next 10 seconds. Can I escape this smoke grenade that's been thrown at me, right? It's just

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it's bonkers to me. And Bitcoin completely unends and undoes all of it. Takes a long time,

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doesn't happen overnight, but it's for real and it happens and you can see it in the lives of

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the people who are Bitcoiners. Go meet some, go try and get to know them, right? It's it's

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going to be an awesome future. Beautiful future. Yeah, I can I just just one thing, then you can

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close it out. Fiat dilutes culture and it pollutes culture. And just like our intro says,

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it is it can be scary out there. There's riots, there's unrest, there's chaos. But one thing you

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can be rest assured is that Bitcoin thrives when there is chaos. I'm not saying it's a good thing

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that there's chaos. But if you feel scared and uncertain about the future, one thing you can be

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certain of is that when things are scary outside, the value of Bitcoin is just increasing. The

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Bitcoin is getting stronger. And so it gives you something that's going to give you a little bit

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of peace over uncertain. Surroundings when your your value and your freedom is in something that

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can't be stolen, can't be taken away, can't be confiscated, can't be diluted like the culture

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is being diluted and preserves that value for the future. So as bad as writing and unrest is,

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it's good for Bitcoin. Last thoughts, anybody, any any last words, pearls of wisdom for

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anybody watching who may be at the riot or not at the right or thinking about the right or afraid

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of the riot, even though they live in like Guam. So if you're afraid, if you're scared right now,

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buy Bitcoin. Agreed. 100% agree. And I'll tack on to that. If you're afraid right now,

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buy Bitcoin, even if it's hard. And what I mean by that is not if it's like hard to part with

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your money. But I mean, if your government is trying to actively dissuade you with a high tax

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or a high burden or a difficult way to get access to it, that should tell you something.

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Yep. That should tell you something. You should look at what's going on in the world and realize

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what do you have good access to? Fast food. That's not good for you. What do you have bad access to?

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You know, water that's full of fluoride. Like, what are you going to have access to? You have

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good access to things that are enriching other people and things that enrich yourself are

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normally difficult to get access to. So if you do want a better life, buy Bitcoin because it tells

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the system, F you. Tells the system, I'm done playing your games. Tells the system that I am

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not going to put up with it. We're not going to take it anymore. And it's important that you do

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that because it's you voting with your dollar. People talk about that all the time. Vote with

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your dollars. It doesn't matter if they're denarii. It doesn't matter if they're pesos.

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It doesn't matter if they're rubles. Vote with your money to show the system that you're done.

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Buy Bitcoin. All right. We should wrap it up, I think.

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Any last thoughts, Antonio?

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Good to be back on the show. I've been out for a while, traveling around the world,

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and I've been watching the show. And you guys have been doing a great job. And I'm just

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thankful and proud to be a part of this show. So thanks, guys.

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Ditto, man. Glad to have you here. We'll see you guys. We're going to probably do another

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episode on Thursday. Hopefully we have a couple of guest stars lined up. So it should be fun.

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And yeah, see you guys then.

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Bye.