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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody happy Friday, the day after Thanksgiving? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody is looking forward to leftovers turkey sandwiches, Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>heating up everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And big screen TV's big screen TV. Sy. Oh Black Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you meant spending money like crazy? Yeah, people

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<v Speaker 2>do that, they do. Have you ever done, although although

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<v Speaker 2>it's not what it used to be. No, right, back

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<v Speaker 2>in the old days, we should tell all the young

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<v Speaker 2>whippers that people used to go to the stores, that's right,

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<v Speaker 2>and we would. We would camp out on the sidewalks

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<v Speaker 2>like four in the morning. No, not we they yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>oh you never did. No, Oh, we used to do

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<v Speaker 2>it fun. It's fun. But like Bonnie and I miss it.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to It was so much fun. Oh yeah, yeah, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>plot your your spending because we would get most of

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<v Speaker 2>our Christmas shopping done on Black Friday back then. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I did Black Friday one time just to

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<v Speaker 1>experience it, and I was like I could do without this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, wow, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think I saved it was it was a TV actually, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I saved something like sixty five dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, then you didn't do it right. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not a big TV but I actually thought

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, I would pay sixty five dollars not to

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<v Speaker 1>do that again.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it was that bad. I just don't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't like it. We liked it. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so but not anymore. Now you just sit on your

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<v Speaker 2>phone all stuff, haven't. That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, way, today we're going to do a segment.

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<v Speaker 2>What this is great? What made Chris happy this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Happy this week? I know? So we we're forsaking everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>favorite segment? What made Chris mad this week? Yeah? Instance

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<v Speaker 2>it's Thanksgiving. We thought we'd give you one week, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>one week this year to be happy. Yes, one week,

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<v Speaker 2>just just just this one day. Can you muster it

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<v Speaker 2>in your heart to find something to be happy and

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<v Speaker 2>thankful for? Well? Thanksgiving weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Jeff, I thought about this because I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>it mere moments before we started recording, Yes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>realized that I had to come up with something that

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<v Speaker 1>may be happy this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Realized he had to come up with something. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to think of something that made me happy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so foreign to your to you every day living. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, that is not true. I had I

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<v Speaker 2>had to think of something quick. No, I am often happy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you have been happy in the past, but at point

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<v Speaker 2>there have been happy moments, Yes, there have been. So

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<v Speaker 2>here's what made me.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what stood out in my mind is of course,

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<v Speaker 1>what made me happy this week is the Lion's victory

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<v Speaker 1>on Thanksgiving Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, how they destroyed the Bears. Wow? Right, that's impressive. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>considering they haven't played yet, that's a prediction. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a prediction. You're predicting. So listen, you realize how clever

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<v Speaker 2>this is.

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<v Speaker 1>So clever we are recording a week before Thanksgiving, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet what I'm doing is I'm celebrating that when

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<v Speaker 1>this airs, by the way, that the Lions have won

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<v Speaker 1>with confidence, Jeff, that we won.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you remember that we destroyed those stinking banks.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember the hang on the two interceptions that our defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Had that was incredible, really one of them by number zero? Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Really right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>The safety whatever is yeah? Yeah, wow that guy. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you also remember that forty six yard run by Gibbs. Okay, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody by a lottery day.

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<v Speaker 2>Play so the game just for these you're listening, the

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<v Speaker 2>game has not played yet. Yes, for us you're listening

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<v Speaker 2>now it did. So yeah, yeah, you know whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not Chris and the score is going to or no,

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<v Speaker 2>it was go he's gonna call a score too.

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<v Speaker 1>Du Bears scored ten points and the Lions scored thirty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh to go three games of fifty three.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say, I'm going to split the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say I'm going to say forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty two. Oh okay, okay, okay, wow, all right, well

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<v Speaker 2>there you go, two to ten. There you go. So

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<v Speaker 2>you're kind of a prophet. Yeah, I am a prophet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah wow. So do you know the Bible says that

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<v Speaker 2>if a prophet lies, they're supposed to be put to death.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, that does not apply in the New Testament because.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's that's really bad if he prophesies false prophecies. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, okay, well they have to claim it's from God.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not claiming this is just on the top of

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<v Speaker 2>your head.

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<v Speaker 1>This is yeah, this is me being clever, Okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, that means if I were to literally

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<v Speaker 1>say this, I have a friend, a good friend, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>she's listening right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, but my good friend.

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<v Speaker 1>But but she she always would go like, if there's

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<v Speaker 1>like some magical thing that happens, she'll go and play

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<v Speaker 1>the lottery. Oh no, yeah, she does all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a good friend. So she's one of those people

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<v Speaker 1>who just can't, you know, get away from that now.

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<v Speaker 1>Granted not a lot of money, but she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>must best be lottery.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lucky day. Yeah. Yeah, Well Chris used up

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<v Speaker 2>all the good luck just right here. Yeah, that's right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right. Okay, so don't don't don't use hipm as

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<v Speaker 2>excuse to go blow all your money. That's correct, that's correct. Anyway, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so funny. I'm thankful for the lions that hope.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope your predictions are correct. Yes, we will find out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Jeff, to be honest with you, I'm happy thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So so let me get this correct. So you're a

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<v Speaker 2>prophet and your propheesying these things. And secondly, yes, in

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<v Speaker 2>a segment that said what made Chris happen this week? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you had to scramble to think of something, and you

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<v Speaker 2>thought of something that has not yet happened. And it

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<v Speaker 2>makes me happy. Nothing this week made you happy. You're

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<v Speaker 2>guessing next week made you happy.

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<v Speaker 1>How clever I am in this segment makes me Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there you go. Yeah, well, I'm proud of you too, Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>Good job. I hope, I hope that you are correct

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<v Speaker 2>on this prediction. I know I am. Okay. Yes, So

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of uh, come on, I don't know. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>for something. Speaking for speaking, we're trying to think of

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<v Speaker 2>a terrible I don't have one here. Speaking of winning scores,

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<v Speaker 2>winning scores, Solomon is about to give us the formula

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<v Speaker 2>on how to win on life. I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>dishonest measurements. But there's that. Oh, come on, keep it,

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<v Speaker 2>keep it positive. Okay, I don't know. I already did it.

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<v Speaker 2>You already found it. You already found it. No, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it, Okay. I came up with the winning scores,

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<v Speaker 2>winning scores. So we're going to be We're continuing with

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<v Speaker 2>Proverbs and just downloading more wisdom for a little while.

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<v Speaker 2>And Proverbs chapter eleven, verse one says the Lord detests

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<v Speaker 2>the use of dishonest scales, but he delights and accurate weights.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I've heard that verse before. Yeah, like yesterday. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>pride leads to disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. Honesty

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<v Speaker 2>guides good people, Dishonesty destroys treacherous people. Riches won't help

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<v Speaker 2>on the day of judgment, but right living can save

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<v Speaker 2>you from death. The godly are directed by honesty. The

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<v Speaker 2>wicked fall beneath their load of sin. The godliness of

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<v Speaker 2>good people rescues them. The ambition of treacherous people traps them.

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<v Speaker 2>When the wicked die, their hopes die with them, for

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<v Speaker 2>they rely on their own feeble strength. The godly are

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<v Speaker 2>rescued from trouble, and it falls in the wicked instead

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<v Speaker 2>their words. The godless destroy their friends, but knowledge will

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<v Speaker 2>rescue the righteous. The whole city celebrates when the godly succeed.

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<v Speaker 2>They shout for joy when the wicked die. Upright citizens

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<v Speaker 2>are good for a city and make it prosper, but

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<v Speaker 2>the talk of the wicked tears it apart. It is

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<v Speaker 2>foolish to belittle one's neighbor. A sensible person keeps quiet,

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<v Speaker 2>a gossip goes around telling secrets, but those who are

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<v Speaker 2>trustworthy can keep a confidence. Without wise leadership, a nation fails.

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<v Speaker 2>There is safety in having many advisers. There's danger in

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<v Speaker 2>putting up security for a stranger's debt. It's safer not

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<v Speaker 2>to guarantee another person's debt. A gracious woman gains respect,

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<v Speaker 2>but ruthless men gain only wealth. Your kindness will reward you,

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<v Speaker 2>but your cruelty will destroy you. Evil people get rich

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<v Speaker 2>for the moment, but the reward of the godly will last.

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<v Speaker 2>Godly people find life, evil people find death. The Lord

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<v Speaker 2>detests people with crooked hearts, but he delights in those

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<v Speaker 2>with integrity. Evil people will surely be punished, but the

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<v Speaker 2>children of the godly will go free. A beautiful woman

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<v Speaker 2>who lacks discretion is like a gold ring and a

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<v Speaker 2>pig snout. That's awesome. Away with words. Yes, Now, the

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<v Speaker 2>godly can look forward to a reward, while the wicked

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<v Speaker 2>can expect only judgment. Give freely, become more wealthy, be stingy,

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<v Speaker 2>lose everything. The prosperous or the generous will prosper. Those

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<v Speaker 2>who refresh others will themselves be refreshed. People curse those

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<v Speaker 2>who hoard their grain, but they bless the one who

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<v Speaker 2>sells in time of need. If you search for good,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll find favor. But if you search for evil, it

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<v Speaker 2>will find you. Trust in your money and down you go.

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<v Speaker 2>But the godly flourish like leaves in spring. Those who

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<v Speaker 2>bring trouble on their families inherit the wind. The fool

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<v Speaker 2>will be a servant to the wise. The seeds of

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<v Speaker 2>good deeds become a tree of life. A wise person

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<v Speaker 2>wins friends. If the righteous are rewarded here on earth,

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<v Speaker 2>what will happen to kid sinners? Well, there you go,

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<v Speaker 2>there it is. Uh So a beautiful woman who lacks

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're going to that one.

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<v Speaker 1>First is a gold ring and a pig's snout. And

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<v Speaker 1>what a visual.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not speaking about women, he's just talking about beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>people in general.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he's talking about how first of all, pigs are

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<v Speaker 1>were an unclean Animal's correct to those who are Jewish,

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<v Speaker 1>right and still are by the way, and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>so a gold ring and a pig snout is probably

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<v Speaker 1>one of the visual aids that he could muster up.

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<v Speaker 1>That is like the thing that doesn't belong.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye what in modern times we say it's like putting

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<v Speaker 2>lipstick on a pig, right, right, same same idea. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the same concept.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you know, an unclean animal in the mud

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<v Speaker 1>having a gold ring in the snout.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really you know, he's trying to.

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<v Speaker 1>Come up with extremes there, right, A beautiful woman who

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<v Speaker 1>lacks discretion, it's just the Yeah, it's it's like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the uh the beauty is is made dirty and

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<v Speaker 1>made unattractive by her lack of discretion, right, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Right, So yeah, that's it's pretty pretty incredible. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, you know what verse I like, actually

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<v Speaker 2>Me, which one?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh verse No tell me Chris, Yes, I was about

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<v Speaker 1>toad verse over twenty. The Lord detests people with crooked hearts,

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<v Speaker 1>but he delights with those with integrity. So, uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was called the Rise of Personal Integrity. And the idea

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let's just say you lack something and in

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<v Speaker 1>I did like this series in Daniel and so like

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<v Speaker 1>from parents, right, and so he lacks it good advice.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what ends up happening is is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, what happens void of instruction, What happens is

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<v Speaker 1>is I built the case that integrity rose to the surface,

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<v Speaker 1>and it came out of him through the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>through the lens of him saying I will not defile myself, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then and then and then I then I built

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<v Speaker 1>another case where it says, you know, uh, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any pastoral guidance from a pastor. He's gotting no

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual advisor. Then all of a sudden, because he lacks

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<v Speaker 1>that in his life. You know, it's the as of

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. You know when when he.

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<v Speaker 1>Lacks uh uh you know, discernment, you know, any praise

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever he's going to do or no, no, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's the it's the entrapment of the king. And then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, you know, his his integrity rises. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I built all these scenarios where he lacks something, something's missing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then integrity rises, and and so what I did?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember this, This is the illustration that sticks out

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind. So do you know what blood type

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<v Speaker 1>You really need to find this out because I think

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen it plenty of times. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that in the old in the olden times,

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<v Speaker 1>they thought that blood was blue because your veins were blue,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when it hit the air it was red.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not true, no, not a long but anyway, and

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, Mary Poppins even things that underneath your

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<v Speaker 1>The point is is that I have oh positive blood.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's interesting is is let's just say you have

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<v Speaker 1>like a negative, and if you give a blood transfusion

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody else, you could only give it to people

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<v Speaker 1>who are a negative. But because I'm O positive and

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<v Speaker 1>oh negative is the is the best. Oh negative is universal,

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<v Speaker 1>but positive, I can give it to like four different people.

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<v Speaker 1>And because my blood contains more factors of what that

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's why I keep you wrong. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>just in case you're like a bag of blood everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. So so but but but but so so

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<v Speaker 1>I contain more factors of what people lack. Right, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what integrity is. It's the universal donor. So no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what it is that you lack in your life,

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<v Speaker 1>you may be in a situation where you lack strength,

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<v Speaker 1>lack accountability. That's what it was accountability of friends, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because because because Daniel no longer had his friend sick

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<v Speaker 1>what it was. It was a you lacked accountability, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And yet what happens uprises personal integrity. So all that

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<v Speaker 1>to say, that's a big long explanation to say that

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<v Speaker 1>he delights with those with integrity. Integrity is a word

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<v Speaker 1>that when you have integrity, it really is almost everything right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's you know, you want wisdom, you want discipline,

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<v Speaker 1>you want faithfulness, you want all of these things. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>integrity is one of those words that if you have integrity,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of like wisdom rights, it's the wisdom of character.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and you need God's integrity, yes, right, you need

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<v Speaker 2>you need the way that God would do a thing

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<v Speaker 2>the right way, integrity meaning doing the right thing the

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<v Speaker 2>right way. Yeah, consistently.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got another fun story. I remember my good friend

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Driscoll. He since then passed away, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>the movie and you do everything else. Well, back when

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<v Speaker 1>they had those kiosks, when they first came out you

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<v Speaker 1>could literally hit student discount or senior says it's a

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<v Speaker 1>discount and nobody checked you and you would get.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a five dollars discount or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It was, right, And I remember we had joked about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, hey, let's go to the chios. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you can hit that student discount. We both laughed, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't really serious. But we ran over and we

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<v Speaker 1>were such a rush. He went to one ATM and

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<v Speaker 1>I did the other one and we both hit boop

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<v Speaker 1>and then we said movie time boop.

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<v Speaker 2>Select in a movie boop.

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<v Speaker 1>And then then it came up and we both look

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<v Speaker 1>each other and I go student discount boop and I

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<v Speaker 1>boop thing, and I go pastor Chris, Pastor Chris, and

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<v Speaker 1>I go and I go cancel boop.

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<v Speaker 2>Card boot mooe time boop.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like Slythering

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<v Speaker 1>in that humiliation.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm joking, crooked.

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<v Speaker 1>Hearts right, I'm joking, like thinking it's so funny, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I get a discount, and he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like integrity and he shouts it out and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot have We're good for him?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, dude, it's it's literally twenty eight years later and

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<v Speaker 1>I still remember it. It's like a moment of complete

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<v Speaker 2>Good for him, you know, the one that jumps off

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<v Speaker 2>for me. And I may have told this story. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I've told this story on the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast or not. But I grew up My whole

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<v Speaker 2>life was with these proverbs that it's so weird for me.

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<v Speaker 2>How often circumstances in my life come up and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a proverb for it. Oh, sure, this God's wisdom thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So we were serving at a church in Texas and

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<v Speaker 2>Ben National Park, which is giant desert. It's stunningly beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the desert anyways. But we were camping up

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<v Speaker 2>at about six thousand feet in the Chizos Mountains, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we go down in the valley during the daytime

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<v Speaker 2>do all kinds of fun things along the Rio Grande

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<v Speaker 2>River or whatever. And there's a canyon called Bokias Canyon

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<v Speaker 2>and it's stunningly beautiful, and there's a little village called

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<v Speaker 2>was at that time kind of isolated. There weren't any

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<v Speaker 2>So the citizens of Bokias would come across the river.

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<v Speaker 2>This is back in old days, before nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>before all those things. They come across the river, go

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Elena, that village and then be able to go

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<v Speaker 2>do their business. So because of that, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the National Park rangers would kind of wink

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<v Speaker 2>at the fact that Americans and Mexicans go back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth in that little village, and so really the only

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<v Speaker 2>actually had a couple of park rangers go, have you

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<v Speaker 2>guys gone across both kiss He said, there's a you

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<v Speaker 2>go down and you know, my boys were like two

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<v Speaker 2>years old, go down to the river. Pay like a

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<v Speaker 2>then there's a guy Pedro. He has some donkeys. You

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<v Speaker 2>has some donkeys. You can ride the donkeys into the

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<v Speaker 2>village and then there's an amazing restaurant sells these incredible

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<v Speaker 2>tacos and burritos. Sitting on a hill. You can look

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<v Speaker 2>right into the end of this I want to go there.

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<v Speaker 2>It was magnificent. The music's playing, the guys are playing guitars.

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<v Speaker 2>I promise you sombreros the whole nine yards. It was

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<v Speaker 2>unbelievable experience. So that's what we do. We go down. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>my boys were like three and four, and they had

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<v Speaker 2>water bottles because we're out in the desert. It's one

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<v Speaker 2>finally I said, listen, if you square the water is life.

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<v Speaker 2>if you waste any more water. You understand, Okay, yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So we go in, we have our tacos,

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<v Speaker 2>buy some little trinkets in town. We come back and

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<v Speaker 2>to hike into this valley and this Mexican man steps

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<v Speaker 2>and he asks for agua, and Jonathan pulls this He

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<v Speaker 2>was like four. He pulls his can back and he goes, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't waste water, and I said, no, come here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I filled his thing with water. He thanked me.

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<v Speaker 2>We go on in this hike. Well, I only had

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<v Speaker 2>and our water's mostly gone. We hike into this canyon

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't realize it's substantially hotter in the canyon

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<v Speaker 2>our hike and there's nothing there. You're just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>You ever see somebody wilting, You think they're in trouble,

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<v Speaker 2>We'd only pass one tree in the canyon, so I

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<v Speaker 2>and he's carried you know, five gallons is forty pounds

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<v Speaker 2>along like nothing. And they see me. I look like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all ready to die. They come running back with

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<v Speaker 2>their water to my kids. They soak us, They fill

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<v Speaker 2>our water bottles with ice water, They soak their hats.

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<v Speaker 2>They give them bandanas to put around their necks, and

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<v Speaker 2>they refresh them. And one who carries forty pounds of water,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, eight gallons of ice water into this place.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, people, maybe that was their mission for the day. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they let's let's let's carry some ice water into the canyon.

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<v Speaker 2>Find some dummies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ye, dummies.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like angels. Right, So we're walking out of

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. Well, when I had given the water to

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<v Speaker 2>that Mexican man, Jonathan said, Daddy, why'd you waste that water,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, well, Jonathan, the Bible says if we

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<v Speaker 2>refresh people, God will refresh us, so you never have

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<v Speaker 2>to worry about being generous to other people. God will

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<v Speaker 2>take care of us. Well, then we get in trouble

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<v Speaker 2>in this canyon just an hour later, two hours later,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought my family was going to die. I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I've crossed the line. Honestly, it's one of the it's

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<v Speaker 2>the only time in my life that I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>I killed my family. And so I'm barely making it out.

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<v Speaker 2>And God has these people, angelic beings in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>carrying this ice water, and they totally refresh. So my

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<v Speaker 2>son's four years old. We get to the car and

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan goes, huh, Daddy, God did refresh us, didn't He

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<v Speaker 2>got in the car. I remember thinking, oh, my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>cause I hadn't put the two and two together. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just quoted this verse because I'm a Christian dad

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<v Speaker 2>that quotes Bible verses to his kids. But my son,

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<v Speaker 2>at four years old, picked up. God took care of

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<v Speaker 2>us in that moment, right, and he gave us water.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't believe these verses are only figurative I

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<v Speaker 2>believe them to be literal. Yes, right, and you can't

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<v Speaker 2>outgive God. So he says, the generous will prosper, and

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<v Speaker 2>those who refresh others will themselves be refreshed. The verse before,

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<v Speaker 2>give freely and become more wealthy, be stingy, and lose

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<v Speaker 2>everything that doesn't make sense the way that we know

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<v Speaker 2>the world works. Alls I can tell you is the

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<v Speaker 2>older I get when and I've been reading these verses

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<v Speaker 2>since I was eight years old. They didn't make sense

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<v Speaker 2>to me. How do you give freely and get more wealthy?

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<v Speaker 2>And all I can say now at fifty three is

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<v Speaker 2>it's absolutely true, absolutely true. And then he says, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you refresh others and you'll be refreshed. It's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 2>These aren't just nice ideas and cute concepts. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>these things to be absolutely true. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, giving freely it's it's I think I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this will air a week from now, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're wrapping up a series that's talking about generosity. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the statements that I made last week, which

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<v Speaker 1>had been two weeks ago now, was that we are

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<v Speaker 1>designed to give our lives away. Right, So God, so God,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he actually made us that way. Relationally, financially,

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<v Speaker 1>we're supposed to give, and so so I built the

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<v Speaker 1>case and said that that if you live your life

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself and you're the main, you know, priority, and

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<v Speaker 1>you look out for yourself more than others and you die,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a wasted life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, because in every single way, relationally, financially, and everything else,

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<v Speaker 1>we are designed to give our lives away. And only

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<v Speaker 1>when we do that we actually discover life. We discover life.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's a financial principle, but it's also a

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<v Speaker 1>relational principle absolutely, So it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the principle is God is a generous god,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't outgive God, that's right. So when he

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<v Speaker 2>sees you acting like him, you choosing to be generous,

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<v Speaker 2>God goes, oh, I'm gonna be generous to that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Because God's looking for conduits to pour his blessing into

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<v Speaker 2>the world around us. And when we hang on and

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<v Speaker 2>that can't flow through us, but when we let go,

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<v Speaker 2>it flows through us. We'll always have enough even while

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<v Speaker 2>we're supplying and providing for others. So that's awesome, incredible, awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hey, that is our time, and so thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>being here this week with us and hopefully we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you on Monday on the Baba Gosh