We’ve got a special guest for Episode 50 — Roel Smelt joins Demian & Florian for one of our most philosophical deep dives yet.
From meditation retreats to building mobile-first startups, Roel brings a unique perspective on technology, business, and humanity — and how it all ties into Elon Musk’s mission.
Could surrendering to AI actually make us more human? And what does Elon’s vision of preserving consciousness really mean for our future?
In this episode:
🧠 Philosophy & Consciousness
Space, time & why humans are more than what they create
Good vs. evil, common ground & why connection matters
The role of love and surrender in solving conflict
🤖 AI & Grokopedia
Elon’s plan to build a “truth-seeking” AI
Why getting humans out of the loop might be necessary
How proactive AI could guide us toward purpose & meaning
🚗 Tesla & Disruption
Polarization and why Elon attracts so much hate
Why Tesla, SpaceX & Starlink will be studied 100 years from now
The deeper meaning behind Elon buying $1B in Tesla stock
👶 Being Human Again
Falling birth rates, mental health, and rediscovering purpose
Why AI should help us live according to biology — not just optimize profit
The future of work, free time, and human connection
🎙️ Reflections & Big Questions
Can AI become a moral coach or even lead countries?
What does it mean to “surrender” to AI — and should we?
Why stories, purpose, and consciousness still matter
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Welcome to Tesla to Mars – The Ultimate Podcast on everything Tesla & Musk! 🚀
We offer you a unique European perspective on all things Musk – from Tesla, SpaceX, xAI, The Boring Company, and beyond.
🔹 Florian – Founder & CEO of MisterGreen, a pioneer in sustainable mobility, managing a fleet of 5,000 Teslas.
🔹 Kees – Chief Content Officer & Business Development at MisterGreen, expert in Full Self-Driving & European regulations.
🔹 Kenny – Founder & Managing Director of MAKE & Partners. Finance, M&A, and investment specialist. Tesla investor since 2019.
🔹 Demian – Founder of Next Level Human. Entrepreneur with a passion for Elon’s vision and future tech.
From Robotaxis and Optimus to Tesla Energy and stock insights – we break it all down.