Get Me to the Gray

Prosecutorial accountability has become a flashpoint in American justice debates — but what does it actually look like from inside the office? District Attorney Alexis King of Jefferson and Gilpin Counties joins Paula Lehman-Ewing for a live conversation recorded at Denver Book Society. King is not a skeptic of prosecution — she believes in it, has reformed it from the inside, and built the largest prosecutorial data transparency project in the country. But this conversation doesn't stay in the realm of the achievable. It moves into the harder terrain: officer-involved shootings, the limits of the reasonable belief standard, the architecture that keeps some cases beyond accountability's reach — and what "accountability" even means when no charges are filed and the officer is still on the job. King holds her framework. Paula holds the tension. Neither resolves it. That's the point. Recorded live before a public audience.

Creators and Guests

PL
Host
Paula Lehman-Ewing
Host, Founder of COJA Services
CP
Composer
Chris Principe
JE
Producer
James Ewing
JK
Producer
Jamie Konegni
Marketing Director
JM
Writer
Jason Masino
Programs and Partnerships

What is Get Me to the Gray?

Get Me to the Gray, presented by COJA Services Inc., is a podcast about the conversations we’re told we shouldn’t have. Hosted by journalist and author Paula Lehman-Ewing, the show brings people with fundamentally different ways of seeing the world into honest dialogue—where we name what divides us and keep talking anyway.

COJA Services Inc. works with mission-driven organizations and brands that are clear on their values but struggle to translate that clarity into public-facing language. We help teams align internal narratives, reduce confusion before it becomes mistrust, and translate complexity into public understanding without relying on scripts, rhetoric, or generic AI language that strips voice and judgment.

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