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Before we get into the podcast, I want to
share with you an upcoming event that we

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have that I think you're going to want to
join us for because it's going to bring

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you up to date on what's going
on in pickleball in 2025.

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Specifically, the event is called The
State of Play, where the Better Pickleball

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Coaching Team, headed by CJ and myself,
will be sharing with you the latest trends

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that are going on in our sport,
strategically with shots,

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rules, and otherwise.

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It's a free event, but you do need a
ticket because of the

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limited space in the room.

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It's also a live event, so you
get to ask us some questions.

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We're going to send you a survey
beforehand where you can share with us

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what's going on and what you're thinking
about so that we can

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answer it during the event.

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It's just going to be a lot of fun and
interactive live event on a Saturday

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afternoon where we can
talk about pickleball.

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I'll put a link down in the show notes.

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You can also just go to betterpickleball.

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Com if that's easier for
you to get your ticket.

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And I hope you can join us and look
forward to seeing you on February 22nd.

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Now, let's dive into the podcast.

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Hello and welcome to Pickleball Therapy,
the podcast dedicated to

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your pickleball improvement.

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Hope you're having a great week.

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My name is Tony Roig.

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I am the host of this weekly podcast.

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This week, I want to talk about
this concept of different strokes for

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different folks, finding your way.

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I have a way I want to frame it for you
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it, because I think it's interesting.

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It's an interesting reaction that I had to
a couple of things that I'm going to

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explain, and then show you a little bit
about how it works in my mind, how my

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brain goes places I'd
rather not go sometimes.

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Then from there, I navigate my way to a
more constructive space, just

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like we do on the podcast.

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As we dive into the podcast,
housekeeping item.

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A couple of housekeeping items
I want to share with you.

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One is, you may know this,
you may not know this.

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Pickleball Therapy is a part of a
bigger project called Better pickleball.

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Sometimes players to ask us what's
Better pickleball all about.

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To make it simple, Better
pickleball is all about coaching.

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That's what we do.

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We provide coaching, whether it's here,
whether it's inside our academy, whether

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it's inside at a camp,
inside our system course.

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Everything that we do is coaching,
including this podcast

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that you're listening to.

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That's Better pickleball.

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If you're not yet part of our Better
pickleball community, highly

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recommend you check that out.

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You get a lot of good
information in there as well.

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Also want to let you know that we have a
couple of interesting events coming

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up, one in February, one in March.

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So be on the look out for those.

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We're going to have some live trainings.

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One is going to be like a state
of the Union type of a thing.

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We're going to talk about pickleball, big
picture, where's Pickleball right

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now, what you should be looking for.

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And then the second one is a boot camp.

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And the boot camp is going to be I believe
it's scheduled for four

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days, I think it is.

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It's an hour a day, but
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So it's about four or
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Really going to help you with your game.
So be on the look out for those.

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If you're on an email list,
you will be aware of those.

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So Get on the email list.
Good reason to be on there.

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You'll be a notified of them.

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All right, let's talk about different
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I'm going to pull up a couple of reviews
here because I thought it was interesting.

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I wanted to do a shout-out.

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I started with a shout out, and then I got
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to read to you on this list.

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I have one review that's a five-star
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review is one-star, and it's
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I'm going to read them to you, and then
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it, and then let's talk about it.

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I don't have any problem with getting a
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in a second, I think it's perfectly fine.

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The five-star review comes from...

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It's like Chelsaint is
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It's on December 15th,
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If you want to improve your
pickleball game, start here.

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A huge part of your wins/losses have to do
with what's between your ears, your mind.

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How do you perceive your game
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When you miss an easy shot,
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Where do you aim your shot?

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How do you keep your partner positive?

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Tony Roig is a master teacher.

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By listening to his coaching and embracing
his concept, your game will improve.

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What player doesn't want that?

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So thank you very much for the shoutout
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And the next one, it's not
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It's positive in a different way in
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So that's on December 28, 2024.

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It's a one star entitled Hot Air
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The thing that's a little bit troubling
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That's It's literally Jesus W.
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I don't know if it's a real Jesus
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I don't understand why
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It's just a bunch of
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Maybe it's a nugget, but it's on repeat
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I listened to several.
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I would say thank you for listening to the
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and giving it a chance.

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Obviously, it didn't work out for you, and
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feedback there as well, Mr. Christ.

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My initial reaction to that when I saw
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ratings for the podcast is 4.
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When we think about...
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When we think about what
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Am I a 3.
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As a podcast host, I see 4.
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My initial reaction was to play with it a
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Hey, can you guys go
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Let's get five-star reviews.
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9, I guess.
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So can we get it to 4.
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But then I started
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And I'm like, Is that really
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Are we doing this to get
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When we ask you guys to rate and review
the podcast, it's for a purpose, right?

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It's so that we can reach other players
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not just to play the numbers game.

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So I wanted to I share that with
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My immediate reaction was,
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Can we get it from 4.

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8 to 4.
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I know that there's listeners out there,
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and received something from the podcast.

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I was going to say, let's get it up.

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That's my initial gut reaction.

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That's that lizard brain activating.

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I want more.

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But then I reflect on it for a second.

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Over the process As of doing this podcast,
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letting the first thought that comes into
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able to put the brakes on it and analyze
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continuing down that road, which is the
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court and the same thing that hopefully
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pickleball court is avoiding that initial
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over the whole thing.

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You can think about it like with
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So there's an out call.
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I get an out call, and I might go like, my
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but I don't say it anymore.

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And I don't say it anymore because I
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There's more to it than just
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It's what they think it was.

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Plus, it doesn't matter at the end of
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Now I'm able to stop myself from that
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thing right away and maybe problem.

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It's similar, different application.

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One's a cumulative review for a podcast,
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It got me thinking about the...

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I started thinking about it differently.

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I looked at The Two.
It's interesting, right?

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You have two human beings
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I have no other choice but to call the
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how they define themselves.

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But like, Chel, Chel listens to the
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Jesus listens to the podcast and gets
something totally different out of it.

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Just a side note here.

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I speak Spanish, and I grew up in
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The name Jesus in Spanish
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I have friends in town
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That's not uncommon.

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Anyway, I know in English, it sounds
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not common as a name.

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But going back to the...

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Here, you have two human beings
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One human being gives a five star, says
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The other human being
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I'm going to give them credit for
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listening to several podcasts.

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What it got me thinking about was this
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reminding ourselves from time to time
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How
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will be different depending on who we are.

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Some of us will interact with it more
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with it more socially, some will
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Some are in a place where
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level Eight out of 10,
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That's okay in terms of
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Additionally, there's different ways of
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address pickleball, meaning
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This is just strategy talk now, but
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Am I going to go all hard, all soft?

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A little bit of hard with mostly soft,
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Those will depend on your skillset, but
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personality, because I know local players
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spill into how they play the game.

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They'll play a little more conservative or
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aggressive, depending on how they are.

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That's not a bad thing,
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When I think about this, it opens up the
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It's helpful to learn things.

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You listen to this podcast, and hopefully
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least resonates with you, maybe not 100%
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you're, Okay, I'm taking a a nugget.

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Even if Jesus, all he got,
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but all that they got was a nugget, right?
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I'm happy.
I'm happy that you received a nugget.

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I apologize if I repeated it more than you
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about things and process
things and present things.

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If that helped, great.

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If it didn't help, that's okay.

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Then find something else that helps you.

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Find something that resonates with you.

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Because that's the other thing as a
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everybody's going to like
the ideas that are presented.

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It's not going to resonate with everybody.

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The other thing is not everybody
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Not everybody is attuned
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To one player, they receive them and
go, Wow, that makes a lot of sense.

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I like what this host is saying.

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To another player, it sounds
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It doesn't mean anything, right?
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That doesn't mean there's
anything wrong with them.

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It doesn't necessarily mean there's
anything wrong with the podcast.

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Just didn't connect with them in the
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The fact that there's different
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But what I do suggest to you is that you
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of what it is that you're trying to do.

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Let me play with that
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The idea is
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work for everybody, but I do know
that the stuff in this podcast works.

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I know that the underlying basis of this
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you it sound for three reasons.

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First, it's a personal story.

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What I share with you in this podcast has
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my personal growth as a player,
as a as just a human being.

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I am not the same person today that I was
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first started, as I started to develop
these concepts and really dive into them

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and study them myself from
other thinkers in this area.

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A good example is our friend Peter Scales,
who's a fantastic thinker in this area.

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Those types of nuggets, if you will, those
concepts, seated in my mind, started to

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sprout other ideas and other
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So from a From a personal
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I'll testify to that, if you will.

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Secondly, I can tell you that
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Chell is an example, right?

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But there's hundreds of other players
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Also, I think there's like 170
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That's 174 reviews with a 4.
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You already know that it's mostly fives,
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and a three in there sporadically.

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For those players, this
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I do know that out from the empirical
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The third reason I would suggest it
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That's why I spend time in these podcasts
talking about the why of the thing, trying

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to articulate the rationale
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Why it is helpful to look at it a certain
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Avoid a different way of looking at it.

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I'll spend time asking you a question
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because that's more meaningful that way.

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And generally speaking, when I ask these
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conclusion, because that's how the
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it just illustrates the obviousness of the
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come to the question.

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So this process then allows us to
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the concepts that we articulate or
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That way you can yourself make a decision
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makes sense to you and sounds like, okay,
that has a logical progression to it.

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That's something that I can get behind.

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Or, Tony has lost his mind
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Any idea what he's talking
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That's your call to make.

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But those are the three reasons why I
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on this podcast is actually valuable
transformation for the majority.

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This is not a slight at Jesus.

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It is fine that this is not
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In the end, going back to what I mentioned
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it's about finding your own path.

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It's about finding the
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Hopefully, there are resources that are
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and to your life and to your experience,
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lead you down a path of less.

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One example that I'll give you briefly on
that is, and it's not any particular

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coach or person, this is
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It's like the concept of giving 110%.

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That concept can be a concept that can
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because it's unattainable.

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You're setting up an unattainable goal for
yourself because either you

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buy into the 110%, meaning that's actually
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by definition is unattainable, or you're
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then it's not helpful.

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That's an example of a concept that I
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It's a concept that in this podcast,
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I would stay away from it.

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Anyway, so find your path, find your
way, and we're happy to

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be a part of that process.

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It's an honor for me to be able to come to
you week in and week out

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and share with you these ideas as we all
continue to grow as pickleball players,

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and as I always like to say, more
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this is not a process, this is not a
unilateral thing where a basic

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Unidirectional thing where I'm
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I am growing alongside you over the
last few years as part of this podcast.

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Keep the feedback coming.

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Any feedback.

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One star is fine.

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Whatever you feel like
you want to share, share.

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But even if this podcast isn't resonating
with you for whatever reason, find

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something that resonates with you.

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My only caveat, again, is just
be mindful of it, Be mindful of,

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not of it, be mindful of yourself.

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Be mindful of you and what you allow into
your ecosystem, and ask questions,

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challenge it, and make sure that it's
something that is going to be additive

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or positive for you in your journey.

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All right, that's this week's podcast on
the Pickleball Therapy podcast, this

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episode, this week's
episode on the podcast.

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I hope you have a great rest
of your weekend and next week.

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Then we'll be back next week with a
regular episode of Pickleball Therapy.

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In the meantime, check
out our Bookmark episode.

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It should have dropped by now by
the time this episode is coming out.

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It's a Bookmark episode that you can use
to get yourself ready for when you're

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going to go out and play pickleball.

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I think you'll find it very helpful.

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Have a great week, and I
will see you next time.

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Be well.