On this episode of “Food Lab Talk”, host Michiel Bakker is joined by Kathy Cacciola, global sustainability lead on the Google Food team. Together, they reflect on their thoughts, impressions and learnings from Season 1, including the importance of community in food systems and practical advice for changemakers. Our favorite takeaway: In complex systems, you learn by doing, so get started!
00:20 Introduction to Kathy Cacciola
02:15 Kathy’s Season 1 impressions: No ego, reframing food challenges
03:30 The personal connection, perspectives and positivity
06:45 Understanding the complexity of food systems
11:20 Community and moving at the speed of trust
14:54 Season 1 practical takeaways for changemakers
16:50 Michiel’s changemaking advice: Frame, orient, mobilize
19:15 Kathy’s changemaking advice: The value of naysayers
20:12 The many roles of changemakers
21:38 Previewing Season 2: Shifting Diets
24:04 Our parting thought: Food creates relationships
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Don’t miss Season 2 of Food Lab Talk “Shifting Diets,” launching September 2023.
*The views expressed by the guests in this podcast don't necessarily represent the host’s views, nor those of his employer.
What is Food Lab Talk?
A better food system starts with one thing: vision. Food Lab Talk gives global food system changemakers a platform to articulate their vision for the future of food.
The series features interviews with inspiring individuals who are working on the frontlines of many of our most pressing food issues: reducing food loss and waste, enhancing food system transparency, facilitating shifts toward more balanced plant-forward diets, enabling informed individual choices for sustainable lifestyles, and accelerating the transition to a circular food economy.
Join Google’s Michiel Bakker to meet the leaders taking bold action and answering what each of us can do to create a better food system for us all.