1 00:00:01,410 --> 00:00:06,131 [Roscoe]: We're alive! What was that? Ow now brown cow! 2 00:00:07,147 --> 00:00:07,378 [Biehner]: Yes. 3 00:00:07,311 --> 00:00:11,633 [Roscoe]: That's a good one. Should do that one. We need to do some vocal warmups before 4 00:00:11,673 --> 00:00:19,275 [Roscoe]: we start. That would be good. But anyway, completely fresh. Here we are. Welcome 5 00:00:19,295 --> 00:00:24,237 [Roscoe]: back to Leafs Late Night. I'm your host Roscoe, joined by Beener and Sudhe. Remember 6 00:00:24,277 --> 00:00:30,095 [Roscoe]: to give us a follow on All of the platforms, I guess, were out on anywhere you 7 00:00:30,135 --> 00:00:34,198 [Roscoe]: listen to podcasts, but we're also up on YouTube on the Inside the Rink YouTube 8 00:00:34,218 --> 00:00:37,840 [Roscoe]: channel. The video was always there. Apologies, the last one was a little late. 9 00:00:37,860 --> 00:00:43,143 [Roscoe]: That's my bad. I didn't send it in. But they are always up usually as soon as we're 10 00:00:43,183 --> 00:00:46,565 [Roscoe]: done. So go and check that out if you like watching them. Otherwise, here we 11 00:00:46,645 --> 00:00:51,768 [Roscoe]: are wherever you're listening. Give us a follow on. I'm not going to say it's X 12 00:00:51,828 --> 00:00:54,869 [Roscoe]: now. Mine finally changed. Are your Twitters X? 13 00:00:57,752 --> 00:01:03,703 [Biehner]: Mine finally just did, but just like I still call it the ACC and the Skydome, I 14 00:01:03,743 --> 00:01:04,725 [Biehner]: will still call it Twitter. 15 00:01:06,658 --> 00:01:10,900 [Roscoe]: See, those ones are starting to wear off for me, the Skydome and the ACC. Like, 16 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,362 [Roscoe]: it took more than a couple years, but I think it's finally starting to catch 17 00:01:15,402 --> 00:01:21,004 [Roscoe]: the new names. And I'm just sad that Twitter's no longer Twitter. But with how things 18 00:01:21,024 --> 00:01:23,045 [Roscoe]: are going, it's probably going to be Twitter again in like two months. 19 00:01:26,178 --> 00:01:32,701 [Roscoe]: Who knows? So anyway, follow us on X and on Instagram for all of the updates. 20 00:01:32,861 --> 00:01:39,045 [Roscoe]: But alas, we are back. Oh, even as I say this, we got some people still sending 21 00:01:39,105 --> 00:01:42,947 [Roscoe]: us in questions. So that is great. We're gonna be mostly just talking about the 22 00:01:42,967 --> 00:01:49,471 [Roscoe]: questions today, a little family episode, as we'll call it. But first, some unfortunate 23 00:01:49,631 --> 00:01:58,284 [Roscoe]: news in Leafs Nation this week. We, I mean... Rodeon Amirov, everything that we 24 00:01:58,324 --> 00:02:05,189 [Roscoe]: heard was that things were progressing, which seemed to brighten everybody's spirits 25 00:02:05,209 --> 00:02:10,453 [Roscoe]: a bit. And then I guess, I don't know when things went south, but we lost Rodeon 26 00:02:10,473 --> 00:02:16,498 [Roscoe]: Amirov on Monday at the age of 21, just heartbreaking, way too soon, way too young. 27 00:02:17,018 --> 00:02:22,151 [Roscoe]: Somebody that had a bright future in the sport and was... strong and fighting 28 00:02:22,171 --> 00:02:26,600 [Roscoe]: through brain cancer. I can't imagine what he was going through and, uh, how positive 29 00:02:26,620 --> 00:02:31,751 [Roscoe]: he stayed. And I mean, we really only got to see a little bit of him, but, um, man, 30 00:02:31,972 --> 00:02:32,853 [Roscoe]: that just, that hurt. 31 00:02:36,146 --> 00:02:37,156 [Biehner]: Yeah, there's not really... 32 00:02:54,406 --> 00:02:59,011 [Roscoe]: Yeah, I mean, even hearing from, I saw Nick Robertson and Tavarez on Twitter both 33 00:02:59,031 --> 00:03:02,195 [Roscoe]: had really nice things to say. I'm not saying other people didn't, but those are 34 00:03:02,215 --> 00:03:07,261 [Roscoe]: just the ones that I happened to catch in the few minutes I was on that day. Yeah, 35 00:03:07,341 --> 00:03:12,447 [Roscoe]: everybody who met him said he was a really, really bright kid and, you know, 36 00:03:12,467 --> 00:03:14,869 [Roscoe]: great to be around. So it's just, it really sucks. 37 00:03:17,046 --> 00:03:23,152 [Biehner]: It does, like the strength and the courage that he showed going through that battle 38 00:03:23,392 --> 00:03:29,799 [Biehner]: as positively and as confidently as he did, and as publicly too, right? Being 39 00:03:30,679 --> 00:03:32,381 [Biehner]: like a prospect and property of the Leafs. 40 00:03:35,404 --> 00:03:40,429 [Biehner]: Yeah, it's like a hockey player aside, like he was only 21 years old, like that's 41 00:03:40,469 --> 00:03:40,809 [Biehner]: terrible. 42 00:03:41,738 --> 00:03:50,042 [Roscoe]: Yeah, really, really sucks. Condolences to anybody around, the family and friends and 43 00:03:50,062 --> 00:03:55,845 [Roscoe]: the team and all that, just heartbreaking. But unfortunately it wasn't the end of Monday's 44 00:03:55,885 --> 00:04:01,008 [Roscoe]: news as we also lost Bobby Bond, who was a Leaf legend and part of the last Stanley 45 00:04:01,028 --> 00:04:05,411 [Roscoe]: Cup winning team. So I mean, I'm sure Beaner, you know more about Bobby Bond if you 46 00:04:05,431 --> 00:04:09,773 [Roscoe]: want to touch on some history there. It's your 47 00:04:09,726 --> 00:04:09,946 [Biehner]: Yeah, 48 00:04:09,853 --> 00:04:10,073 [Roscoe]: area. 49 00:04:09,986 --> 00:04:15,148 [Biehner]: just I've actually got the reverse retro on as a throwback 50 00:04:14,702 --> 00:04:15,087 [Roscoe]: out of the way. 51 00:04:15,188 --> 00:04:25,532 [Biehner]: to Mr. Bond. Um, he was like your, your prototypical rugged stay at home defenseman, 52 00:04:25,552 --> 00:04:30,394 [Biehner]: like the type of defenseman that you would want on your team, right? Tough as 53 00:04:30,454 --> 00:04:36,476 [Biehner]: nails would do anything for you. Just like he was a leader back there, a vital 54 00:04:36,516 --> 00:04:41,201 [Biehner]: member of the Leafs teams in the sixties. Um. One of his most famous moments 55 00:04:41,282 --> 00:04:48,321 [Biehner]: is scoring a game six overtime winning goal to force a game seven on a broken ankle. 56 00:04:49,518 --> 00:04:53,300 [Roscoe]: Yeah, I've been hearing that one a lot from all the other shows and my god, I 57 00:04:54,340 --> 00:04:58,103 [Roscoe]: like you hear this stuff about, you know, punctured lung and broken rib and broken 58 00:04:58,143 --> 00:05:02,905 [Roscoe]: sternum and all this and that, but like, your ankles are kind of important for 59 00:05:03,166 --> 00:05:08,208 [Roscoe]: all of hockey, not just like, oh, if I move a certain way, then I'm fine. No, 60 00:05:08,248 --> 00:05:09,929 [Roscoe]: like, how are you doing that? 61 00:05:10,954 --> 00:05:15,677 [Biehner]: Like in an interview years and years and years later, like the interview was probably 62 00:05:15,737 --> 00:05:22,603 [Biehner]: only about 10 years or so ago, excuse me. He mentioned that he blocked the shot and 63 00:05:22,643 --> 00:05:26,626 [Biehner]: the shot was from Gordie Howe. So anybody who's seen pictures of Gordie Howe 64 00:05:26,666 --> 00:05:32,371 [Biehner]: online, the guy was just a tank. He blocked a shot from Gordie, it hurt. At 65 00:05:32,411 --> 00:05:36,734 [Biehner]: the next face off, he hears a pop or a crack 66 00:05:36,460 --> 00:05:36,691 [Roscoe]: Yup. 67 00:05:37,555 --> 00:05:39,697 [Biehner]: and then falls to the ice, was carried 68 00:05:39,646 --> 00:05:39,987 [Roscoe]: Mhm. 69 00:05:39,757 --> 00:05:40,517 [Biehner]: off on a stretcher. 70 00:05:41,372 --> 00:05:41,733 [Roscoe]: Lovely. 71 00:05:42,454 --> 00:05:48,325 [Biehner]: had his leg frozen and then jumped back on the ice in overtime to score the overtime 72 00:05:48,365 --> 00:05:52,513 [Biehner]: winner. You know, not like it was against me, it was against Terry Saczak, one 73 00:05:52,533 --> 00:05:54,677 [Biehner]: of the best goaltenders to ever play the game. 74 00:05:55,386 --> 00:05:58,869 [Roscoe]: Yeah, I heard it was like an hour and a half that he was off the ice before he 75 00:05:58,889 --> 00:06:06,657 [Roscoe]: came back. That's insane Like oh my god, just to still to still be Exactly, that's 76 00:06:06,677 --> 00:06:09,700 [Roscoe]: what I was gonna say like to still be warmed up and ready to jump in and be like 77 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,824 [Roscoe]: no I got this after being off the ice that long like the game's over in your 78 00:06:13,864 --> 00:06:15,225 [Roscoe]: mind. My god 79 00:06:17,994 --> 00:06:19,015 [Biehner]: Yeah, 80 00:06:18,210 --> 00:06:18,745 [Roscoe]: So what? 81 00:06:19,515 --> 00:06:24,740 [Biehner]: he was an incredible player and such a great ambassador for the team too, like going 82 00:06:24,780 --> 00:06:29,945 [Biehner]: forward throughout the years after that. So it's truly a tough loss. 83 00:06:31,206 --> 00:06:38,915 [Roscoe]: Yeah, another legend, unfortunately gone. Oh, and I see Nick Castellanos has just 84 00:06:38,955 --> 00:06:39,556 [Roscoe]: hit a home run. 85 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:46,352 [Roscoe]: Sorry for anybody who doesn't get that. I just stumbled upon this one. This is 86 00:06:46,412 --> 00:06:52,577 [Roscoe]: our hard right transition out of that one. So for the, from what I can find 12 or 87 00:06:52,638 --> 00:06:59,623 [Roscoe]: 13th time, this week, Nick Castellanos, who plays for the Phillies currently, has this 88 00:06:59,783 --> 00:07:09,611 [Roscoe]: weird streak of hitting home runs or RBIs in the middle of like really inappropriate, 89 00:07:10,953 --> 00:07:15,763 [Roscoe]: not inappropriate, but like, serious conversations or dedications or things like 90 00:07:15,883 --> 00:07:21,465 [Roscoe]: he will interrupt things with a home run. So it started with this one announcer 91 00:07:21,505 --> 00:07:25,267 [Roscoe]: who had to make an apology for something that got caught on a hot mic and like in the 92 00:07:25,307 --> 00:07:28,848 [Roscoe]: middle of his apology he stopped to say like oh and that's a home run for Nick 93 00:07:28,868 --> 00:07:36,651 [Roscoe]: Castellanos and that is for nothing. It's so funny and then they apparently within 94 00:07:36,752 --> 00:07:41,962 [Roscoe]: minutes of Will Smith slapping Chris Rock this guy hit a home run they were doing 95 00:07:41,767 --> 00:07:42,016 [Biehner]: Ha ha! 96 00:07:41,982 --> 00:07:47,045 [Roscoe]: a dedication for Queen Elizabeth II. And like as they're wrapping it up, he hits 97 00:07:47,085 --> 00:07:52,708 [Roscoe]: a home run. They were talking about how the one J's coach got arrested for a DUI 98 00:07:52,848 --> 00:07:57,731 [Roscoe]: hits a home run. They were doing a dedication for the 20th anniversary of 9-11 99 00:07:58,151 --> 00:08:02,353 [Roscoe]: hits a home run. So apparently the other day they were talking about this ALS 100 00:08:02,373 --> 00:08:05,615 [Roscoe]: foundation and how it's, you know, impacted baseball with Lou Gehrig's disease 101 00:08:05,635 --> 00:08:08,417 [Roscoe]: and everything. And like while they're talking about it, he's on base and everyone's 102 00:08:08,917 --> 00:08:14,994 [Roscoe]: at... on the plate and everyone's like, sure enough, it's an RBI double. 103 00:08:20,234 --> 00:08:25,437 [Roscoe]: Yeah, it's just the weirdest streak because though some of them are in arena things, 104 00:08:25,597 --> 00:08:28,538 [Roscoe]: a lot of them are just the announcers talking about stuff. So it's not even like 105 00:08:28,578 --> 00:08:32,921 [Roscoe]: he knows all of the time that this is going on. It's just such a random thing 106 00:08:32,961 --> 00:08:33,581 [Roscoe]: to keep happening. 107 00:08:36,790 --> 00:08:44,296 [Roscoe]: That's a fun one. So moving on, we've got, like I said, a bunch of questions from 108 00:08:44,416 --> 00:08:49,741 [Roscoe]: y'all from X or Twitter. I don't really care what you want to call it. Follow us at 109 00:08:49,781 --> 00:08:55,446 [Roscoe]: Leaps Late Night and you can catch whenever I ask for questions. So the first 110 00:08:55,526 --> 00:09:00,630 [Roscoe]: one here from Chris Brashe at DJ or at Chris Brashe, DJ Rabbit. What do you think 111 00:09:00,670 --> 00:09:02,612 [Roscoe]: the holdup is for the extension for Matthews? 112 00:09:05,886 --> 00:09:12,167 [Roscoe]: I mean, Nylander, I guess, is the best answer. or the easiest answer? 113 00:09:13,656 --> 00:09:15,605 [Biehner]: That's probably the easiest answer, but... 114 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:25,053 [Biehner]: It's such a weird scenario, like, coming in at this crucial of a time, he's trying 115 00:09:25,073 --> 00:09:30,536 [Biehner]: to learn what Brad wants to do, how he wants to run things, trying to decide if 116 00:09:30,556 --> 00:09:38,241 [Biehner]: he wants to commit the rest of his prime to this team, and where Brad wants to 117 00:09:38,261 --> 00:09:44,944 [Biehner]: go and what he wants to build. Like, I don't blame the guy for not just signing 118 00:09:44,985 --> 00:09:50,637 [Biehner]: blindly, like you'd wanna have... good serious discussions with the general manager 119 00:09:50,697 --> 00:09:54,125 [Biehner]: about the type of team that he wants to put on the ice before you go and commit. 120 00:09:56,162 --> 00:09:58,053 [Roscoe]: No fair enough. Oh, you know what I forgot to do? 121 00:10:00,601 --> 00:10:01,224 [Biehner]: Hahahaha 122 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:04,428 [Roscoe]: My bad. 123 00:10:25,586 --> 00:10:31,254 [Roscoe]: Okay, I just had to, you know, I missed it one of the last couple times and it was 124 00:10:31,315 --> 00:10:40,407 [Roscoe]: bugging me that it wasn't there. So I have an intro for a reason. Okay. So yeah, 125 00:10:42,009 --> 00:10:47,173 [Roscoe]: feeling out what True Living wants to do with the team is definitely something 126 00:10:47,593 --> 00:10:52,798 [Roscoe]: that probably him and Neilander are both trying to suss out before they sign for 127 00:10:52,838 --> 00:10:55,820 [Roscoe]: longer than a couple of years. I don't know, Suddy, do you have anything you want 128 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,521 [Roscoe]: to add to that theory or your own? 129 00:11:25,882 --> 00:11:29,508 [Roscoe]: Yeah, I think the problem with signing either of them long term is you're going to 130 00:11:29,528 --> 00:11:34,055 [Roscoe]: have to go so high on the AAV just because the cap's going up that I don't think 131 00:11:34,075 --> 00:11:37,320 [Roscoe]: they're going to be able to afford it like next year and the year after before 132 00:11:37,380 --> 00:11:40,205 [Roscoe]: it really starts jumping. So 133 00:11:46,918 --> 00:11:52,060 [Roscoe]: Yeah, so I think the order of operations is Nylander first, because you're hoping that 134 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,723 [Roscoe]: that's obviously, I mean, not hoping it should be a lower dollar value, regardless 135 00:11:55,743 --> 00:12:00,825 [Roscoe]: of what his agent says, than what you're going to give Matthews. So you got to 136 00:12:00,845 --> 00:12:05,448 [Roscoe]: figure Nylander out first, he probably wants to figure out Goal tending too. I don't 137 00:12:05,468 --> 00:12:08,590 [Roscoe]: know. There's a lot of things that have to happen in dollars that need to be spent 138 00:12:08,650 --> 00:12:15,113 [Roscoe]: elsewhere before they can throw around like, you know, $20 million on two guys. 139 00:12:16,022 --> 00:12:21,632 [Biehner]: That being said though, at this point, like the start of next season when that new 140 00:12:21,672 --> 00:12:26,241 [Biehner]: contract would kick in, that's the last season Tavares is under contract for right 141 00:12:26,261 --> 00:12:26,401 [Biehner]: now. 142 00:12:27,474 --> 00:12:29,145 [Roscoe]: Oh, that's true. Didn't think of that. 143 00:12:29,118 --> 00:12:39,382 [Biehner]: Like at this point, give him his 13, give him his 14, whatever it is, because 144 00:12:39,422 --> 00:12:43,104 [Biehner]: those type of players don't come around that often. We don't want to lose him. 145 00:12:43,144 --> 00:12:46,145 [Biehner]: We don't want a Kachaka or Gudaro situation. 146 00:12:47,686 --> 00:12:52,809 [Roscoe]: Yeah, and you don't want to lose them, especially to keep Taveras for, you know, whatever 147 00:12:52,849 --> 00:12:56,591 [Roscoe]: it is. Are you talking moving them on in that last year or just the fact that 148 00:12:56,872 --> 00:12:59,673 [Roscoe]: you only have one more year? 149 00:12:58,710 --> 00:12:59,551 [Biehner]: Who, Tavares? No, no, 150 00:12:59,713 --> 00:12:59,853 [Roscoe]: Yeah. 151 00:12:59,752 --> 00:13:04,703 [Biehner]: not moving them on, just that it's not like you have five or six years of eleven 152 00:13:04,723 --> 00:13:07,309 [Biehner]: million dollars John Tavares in his late thirties, right? 153 00:13:07,830 --> 00:13:14,877 [Roscoe]: fair. Yeah. So yeah, there's a whole bunch of different answers to that question, 154 00:13:14,917 --> 00:13:20,082 [Roscoe]: but it's a good one. What do you think the first domino to fall here is? Because obviously 155 00:13:20,102 --> 00:13:22,765 [Roscoe]: there's a lot of things that have to happen. What do you think the first one 156 00:13:22,785 --> 00:13:23,505 [Roscoe]: that we're going to see is? 157 00:13:26,742 --> 00:13:31,666 [Biehner]: Publicly, I think the first thing to go down is going to be Nylander. Whether 158 00:13:31,706 --> 00:13:39,474 [Biehner]: he stays or gets traded or what it is. But the big problem with him is if you 159 00:13:39,514 --> 00:13:46,721 [Biehner]: do trade him, trying to find someone who brings what he brings for under 7, well, 160 00:13:46,801 --> 00:13:50,625 [Biehner]: okay, he's basically 7 million, for under 8 million, you're going to be next in 161 00:13:50,645 --> 00:13:51,465 [Biehner]: possible to do that. 162 00:13:52,470 --> 00:14:01,863 [Roscoe]: Yeah, agreed. Okay, so next question, Phil Wilds at P Wilds 121. Did the team get 163 00:14:01,904 --> 00:14:11,913 [Roscoe]: better or worse over the off season? So let me just pull up. The additions and subtractions. 164 00:14:13,214 --> 00:14:16,580 [Biehner]: You want to go first on this one, Sadi? I've kind of been taken over. Yeah. 165 00:14:20,906 --> 00:14:27,156 [Biehner]: Um, my opinion, I think that it's definitely been better. Like just for, even 166 00:14:27,176 --> 00:14:34,098 [Biehner]: if you just look at the left wing position alone. Like we go into the season 167 00:14:34,158 --> 00:14:40,622 [Biehner]: starting, our starting left wings are Tyler Bertuzzi, Max Domey, and Matthew 168 00:14:40,642 --> 00:14:45,305 [Biehner]: Nyes in some order, like not necessarily that order. 169 00:14:47,774 --> 00:14:53,117 [Roscoe]: Yeah, I think the first line definitely looks better. Not that, I mean, bunting was 170 00:14:53,197 --> 00:15:01,021 [Roscoe]: good, but a little inconsistent and a little hotheaded. And, you know, yeah. So 171 00:15:01,542 --> 00:15:06,064 [Roscoe]: having Tyler Bertuzzi that's a little more consistent and offensive producing and, 172 00:15:06,364 --> 00:15:10,107 [Roscoe]: you know, can still bring that same kind of grit and back up Matthews and Marner, 173 00:15:10,147 --> 00:15:13,969 [Roscoe]: I think that's awesome. Domi on the second line, I'm just going off of what's, 174 00:15:14,329 --> 00:15:20,772 [Roscoe]: you know, projected here. with Tavares and Nylander is awesome. If you've got Nyes 175 00:15:20,812 --> 00:15:25,975 [Roscoe]: in there on the third line, I mean, Gambrel on the fourth, David Camp on your third 176 00:15:26,015 --> 00:15:31,018 [Roscoe]: line, like, I mean, it all looks good. I'd like it better than, I mean, Engvall was 177 00:15:31,078 --> 00:15:36,181 [Roscoe]: pretty inconsistent last year, could never really put two and two together. Who 178 00:15:36,221 --> 00:15:40,084 [Roscoe]: else would have lost? Justin Hall's gone. I mean, I like this team better. I mean, 179 00:15:40,184 --> 00:15:44,280 [Roscoe]: I know John Klingberg's not a great defenseman, but hey. We've still got Brody 180 00:15:44,300 --> 00:15:46,425 [Roscoe]: and we've still got Riley and a couple others. So. 181 00:15:55,380 --> 00:15:55,543 [Roscoe]: Yeah. 182 00:16:01,166 --> 00:16:02,187 [Roscoe]: I forgot about that. Yeah. 183 00:16:05,714 --> 00:16:09,356 [Roscoe]: Um, yeah, so actually before we get down to Martin Jones, because that is going 184 00:16:09,376 --> 00:16:16,281 [Roscoe]: to be our next question. What do you like the best on the addition side here, Bean? 185 00:16:19,094 --> 00:16:24,261 [Biehner]: Um, am I allowed to say a full season of Matthew Nye's? Uh... 186 00:16:25,022 --> 00:16:29,028 [Roscoe]: I mean, yeah, honestly, like part of the moves they've made opens up a spot for 187 00:16:29,089 --> 00:16:29,189 [Roscoe]: him. 188 00:16:30,646 --> 00:16:30,877 [Biehner]: Like. 189 00:16:33,906 --> 00:16:39,912 [Biehner]: Max, it's probably just for the nostalgia, but Max Domi, I really like that. Like, he's 190 00:16:39,952 --> 00:16:44,177 [Biehner]: very familiar with Marner. They played together in London. Who knows that might be 191 00:16:44,237 --> 00:16:48,522 [Biehner]: a new, not wanting to throw him up on the first line without seeing them play 192 00:16:48,542 --> 00:16:51,905 [Biehner]: together. But Matthews, Marner and Domi might be a hell of a line. 193 00:16:53,858 --> 00:16:54,542 [Roscoe]: That would be fun. 194 00:16:54,398 --> 00:16:59,201 [Biehner]: Like you could, you could free up Nye's, Tavares and Neelander then for your 195 00:16:59,241 --> 00:17:05,024 [Biehner]: second. Like that, that would be a dangerous line as well. But then you're throwing 196 00:17:05,044 --> 00:17:06,165 [Biehner]: Bertuzzi on your third. Like 197 00:17:07,182 --> 00:17:07,584 [Roscoe]: I was just gonna 198 00:17:07,526 --> 00:17:07,626 [Biehner]: the 199 00:17:07,604 --> 00:17:07,725 [Roscoe]: say, 200 00:17:07,666 --> 00:17:07,866 [Biehner]: fact 201 00:17:07,765 --> 00:17:07,946 [Roscoe]: well then 202 00:17:07,906 --> 00:17:08,066 [Biehner]: that, 203 00:17:07,966 --> 00:17:10,200 [Roscoe]: where do you put Pertuzzi? 204 00:17:09,647 --> 00:17:10,248 [Biehner]: yeah, the fact that 205 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:10,421 [Roscoe]: Good 206 00:17:10,268 --> 00:17:10,508 [Biehner]: we have 207 00:17:10,461 --> 00:17:10,763 [Roscoe]: problem 208 00:17:10,568 --> 00:17:10,868 [Biehner]: so many 209 00:17:10,783 --> 00:17:11,065 [Roscoe]: to have. 210 00:17:10,968 --> 00:17:17,372 [Biehner]: options now. Exactly. We haven't really had that depth in any position other 211 00:17:17,392 --> 00:17:19,413 [Biehner]: than center in the longest time. 212 00:17:21,414 --> 00:17:27,058 [Roscoe]: Yeah, I mean, last year it seemed like there was depth, but very specific to 213 00:17:27,118 --> 00:17:30,760 [Roscoe]: center and somewhat right wing. And it was always this question of like, what are 214 00:17:30,780 --> 00:17:35,604 [Roscoe]: we doing on left? It didn't seem to get solved last year. So I'm glad that the 215 00:17:35,724 --> 00:17:40,507 [Roscoe]: one thing that had made the top of his list was fixing all of the left wing. So 216 00:17:41,048 --> 00:17:46,752 [Roscoe]: that's going to be exciting. Again, I just like the idea that clangberg is a leaf. 217 00:17:46,772 --> 00:17:51,076 [Roscoe]: I don't know. It's just fun. We never get the We never get the person that's like, 218 00:17:51,396 --> 00:17:55,322 [Roscoe]: oh, where are they gonna go? Uh-oh, like what team's gonna get them? We always 219 00:17:55,342 --> 00:17:57,265 [Roscoe]: get like the third or fourth person down. 220 00:17:59,498 --> 00:17:59,823 [Biehner]: And yet we... 221 00:18:22,634 --> 00:18:25,938 [Roscoe]: Yeah, I think we gotta find a better partner for him than Jake McCabe though, as 222 00:18:25,958 --> 00:18:29,784 [Roscoe]: it has here on Daily Face Off. I know this is not obviously anything set in stone, 223 00:18:29,804 --> 00:18:33,669 [Roscoe]: but that would be a horrible pair. But who do you put Klingberg with? 224 00:18:35,018 --> 00:18:36,352 [Biehner]: Why do you say that would be a horrible pair? 225 00:18:37,322 --> 00:18:43,606 [Roscoe]: Because I don't feel like either of them are overly defensively responsible to 226 00:18:43,646 --> 00:18:48,029 [Roscoe]: have two, like you've got kind of like a two way and an offensive defenseman, 227 00:18:48,389 --> 00:18:57,035 [Roscoe]: which is, I mean, okay, depending on how you're playing, but I mean, you're putting 228 00:18:57,055 --> 00:19:01,739 [Roscoe]: a lot on goalie that, I don't know, this year it's a little more of a question 229 00:19:01,759 --> 00:19:05,701 [Roscoe]: mark and net. You don't know, like you don't pepper Joseph Wall with a bunch of. 230 00:19:06,294 --> 00:19:08,417 [Roscoe]: high danger shots, so I don't know. 231 00:19:10,734 --> 00:19:18,179 [Biehner]: I think there's good potential there. Like, Riley Brody has been okay for most of 232 00:19:18,219 --> 00:19:22,542 [Biehner]: the time they've played together. You could throw Brody with Klingberg, McCabe 233 00:19:22,582 --> 00:19:24,904 [Biehner]: up with Riley, you could even... excuse 234 00:19:24,886 --> 00:19:25,049 [Roscoe]: That's 235 00:19:24,924 --> 00:19:25,024 [Biehner]: me. 236 00:19:25,070 --> 00:19:25,824 [Roscoe]: what I was thinking. 237 00:19:26,985 --> 00:19:31,628 [Biehner]: Like, I really want to see them load up the minutes on Lillagren this year. Like, 238 00:19:31,648 --> 00:19:34,851 [Biehner]: we need to see what we have with them. I love the guy, I think he's got a lot 239 00:19:34,891 --> 00:19:37,913 [Biehner]: of potential, but we need to give him a chance. We can't keep burying him as 240 00:19:37,933 --> 00:19:39,113 [Biehner]: a third pairing defenseman. 241 00:19:39,456 --> 00:19:46,352 [Roscoe]: Agreed. Because as we all know, you do that and they're always going to be a third 242 00:19:46,392 --> 00:19:46,933 [Roscoe]: pair defenseman. 243 00:19:51,110 --> 00:20:00,676 [Roscoe]: Okay, next question here from Kilgore Ken. Ken 27 Kilikonda. I like that Twitter 244 00:20:00,716 --> 00:20:06,820 [Roscoe]: slash X lets you have two names. Just makes it so fun. I wonder who our goalie is 245 00:20:07,020 --> 00:20:13,445 [Roscoe]: and is Matthew signing or not? I need answers. So that I'll tie into Grizzly Craig 246 00:20:13,685 --> 00:20:19,369 [Roscoe]: one's question to starting goalies for the first game. So you mentioned we brought 247 00:20:19,409 --> 00:20:24,099 [Roscoe]: in Martin Jones. We've got Joseph Wall, we've got Ilya Samsonov. Which two do 248 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,685 [Roscoe]: you think are gonna be a net for game one? 249 00:20:29,108 --> 00:20:29,234 [Biehner]: I- 250 00:20:41,102 --> 00:20:45,569 [Roscoe]: Who would? Good point. Beaner, what do you think? 251 00:20:46,278 --> 00:20:54,023 [Biehner]: See, I wouldn't be surprised if maybe Jones just started in the A. Cause see, kind 252 00:20:54,063 --> 00:20:58,247 [Biehner]: of the same thing with Wall, right? Like you have to see what you have with him. 253 00:20:58,767 --> 00:21:02,550 [Biehner]: He finally got his chance because he's been running in danger, trouble forever. 254 00:21:03,170 --> 00:21:09,857 [Biehner]: Came up last year and he played well. Like we didn't lose because of him. Thank you. 255 00:21:12,766 --> 00:21:19,711 [Biehner]: Yeah, he wasn't the problem. So that could just be me really wanting to see him 256 00:21:19,751 --> 00:21:27,878 [Biehner]: get a chance. Like I get signing Jones the security blanket, but it's not even, 257 00:21:29,700 --> 00:21:36,245 [Biehner]: it's not like you're signing an over, like over the hill, former Vezna winner Stanley 258 00:21:36,265 --> 00:21:41,249 [Biehner]: Cup champion, you're signing a over the hill 860 goalie. 259 00:21:43,322 --> 00:21:49,126 [Roscoe]: Yeah, his stats are confusing. I mean, we talked about it last episode, but I think 260 00:21:49,646 --> 00:21:55,310 [Roscoe]: it's I think it's safe to put Jones in as your backup in game one, but I think 261 00:21:55,370 --> 00:21:59,573 [Roscoe]: it's fair to give Wall the opportunity because he's earned it and to bring in Jones 262 00:21:59,593 --> 00:22:05,617 [Roscoe]: and just bump him down seems kind of like a kick in the Achilles. So what do 263 00:22:05,677 --> 00:22:12,926 [Roscoe]: I think is going to happen? Honestly, I think it's going to be Martin Jones. I think 264 00:22:13,646 --> 00:22:19,331 [Roscoe]: to what Saadi said, it's just waiver wise and just veteran experience there. They're 265 00:22:19,371 --> 00:22:23,134 [Roscoe]: probably going to do it. They're probably going to have to pull some cap gymnastics to 266 00:22:23,174 --> 00:22:27,657 [Roscoe]: fit somebody else in before game one. So I don't 267 00:22:27,390 --> 00:22:27,731 [Biehner]: I was going 268 00:22:27,697 --> 00:22:27,817 [Roscoe]: know. 269 00:22:27,751 --> 00:22:33,913 [Biehner]: to say wool is $109,000 cheaper than Jones. 270 00:22:38,887 --> 00:22:39,032 [Roscoe]: Ugh. 271 00:22:52,554 --> 00:22:58,295 [Roscoe]: I know. I'm not saying what's the right decision, I'm saying what I think is 272 00:22:58,315 --> 00:23:01,842 [Roscoe]: going to happen. I think the right decision as well, but what's going to happen 273 00:23:01,862 --> 00:23:03,705 [Roscoe]: is it's going to be Martin Jones in game one. 274 00:23:09,970 --> 00:23:10,190 [Roscoe]: Anything 275 00:23:10,194 --> 00:23:10,254 [Biehner]: I 276 00:23:10,210 --> 00:23:10,290 [Roscoe]: to 277 00:23:10,295 --> 00:23:10,717 [Biehner]: disagree. 278 00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:17,362 [Roscoe]: add? Okay. So last one here from Tommy Ryan 26. Since we know Bradshaw Living wants 279 00:23:17,382 --> 00:23:21,048 [Roscoe]: changes on the blue line, who do you think are a few players around the league he 280 00:23:21,128 --> 00:23:22,089 [Roscoe]: may be targeting? 281 00:23:25,446 --> 00:23:28,017 [Roscoe]: I have a couple thoughts, but I'm wondering if you guys have any. 282 00:23:29,726 --> 00:23:34,738 [Biehner]: Well, I was wondering if there was some sort of deal he was trying to make to 283 00:23:34,778 --> 00:23:38,809 [Biehner]: free up some cap space to maybe go after Dumba, but that's clearly not happening 284 00:23:38,849 --> 00:23:39,009 [Biehner]: now. 285 00:23:41,250 --> 00:23:44,197 [Roscoe]: So you think it'd be like a defensive oriented. 286 00:23:45,962 --> 00:23:50,463 [Biehner]: Well realistically, he already went out and got Klingberg. That's basically a forward 287 00:23:50,503 --> 00:23:51,363 [Biehner]: who plays back. 288 00:23:51,742 --> 00:23:52,897 [Roscoe]: Yep. That's fair. 289 00:23:53,264 --> 00:24:01,286 [Biehner]: Right? So you have Riley, who is Klingberg, but more responsible. You have Klingberg. 290 00:24:02,266 --> 00:24:07,928 [Biehner]: And then you have Lily, who is kind of more of a two-way guy, but has a little 291 00:24:07,948 --> 00:24:13,549 [Biehner]: bit of offensive ability. So I don't know if you really wanna go like, we're not. 292 00:24:14,294 --> 00:24:16,993 [Biehner]: the Pittsburgh Expendables here with Letang and Carlson. 293 00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:23,171 [Roscoe]: I mean, it's fair to say that the two defensive oriented defensemen are Giro 294 00:24:23,431 --> 00:24:30,473 [Roscoe]: and Brody. Other than that, it's either offensive or two way. So yeah, I mean, that 295 00:24:30,493 --> 00:24:38,576 [Roscoe]: makes the most sense. I still think that there isn't, though there's like an offensive 296 00:24:38,596 --> 00:24:42,957 [Roscoe]: threat coming from Klingberg, there's no dangerous shot still. So I mean, even if 297 00:24:42,977 --> 00:24:46,772 [Roscoe]: they do get a defensive person, I think. a shot from the blue line is something 298 00:24:46,792 --> 00:24:47,874 [Roscoe]: that he might be looking for. I 299 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,605 [Roscoe]: don't know, Nikita Zadorov from his old team, potentially. 300 00:25:10,846 --> 00:25:15,409 [Roscoe]: Yeah, I mean, unless you're moving one of the defensemen, it doesn't really make 301 00:25:15,449 --> 00:25:18,671 [Roscoe]: sense to be able to bring somebody else in. I think all the all the slots are 302 00:25:18,691 --> 00:25:26,576 [Roscoe]: kind of filled. I mean, if he wants changes. Fuck, I mean, who do you move on from 303 00:25:26,596 --> 00:25:31,299 [Roscoe]: there? I guess like we've talked about Brody kind of makes sense, but then you really 304 00:25:31,319 --> 00:25:33,981 [Roscoe]: got to bring in another defensive defenseman and who's going to do a one for 305 00:25:34,081 --> 00:25:37,422 [Roscoe]: one there. Ugh. 306 00:25:40,702 --> 00:25:45,168 [Roscoe]: I mean, you don't want to move Lillagren. The only one you could move, I guess, is Jake 307 00:25:45,188 --> 00:25:51,156 [Roscoe]: McCabe. But again, trading defensemen for defensemen is always weird and hard, and 308 00:25:51,757 --> 00:25:54,841 [Roscoe]: there's going to have to be a situation where a team wants to move on from somebody. 309 00:25:55,798 --> 00:25:58,902 [Biehner]: Having McKay about 2 million for the next few years, that would be stupid to 310 00:25:58,922 --> 00:25:59,463 [Biehner]: move on from. 311 00:26:00,078 --> 00:26:05,228 [Roscoe]: Exactly. Unless he starts becoming Justin Hall 2.0, in which case I don't care 312 00:26:05,248 --> 00:26:05,849 [Roscoe]: how much we're paying him. 313 00:26:08,458 --> 00:26:09,061 [Biehner]: He won't be just 314 00:26:08,888 --> 00:26:09,051 [Roscoe]: Um 315 00:26:09,101 --> 00:26:11,693 [Biehner]: in Hall 2.0 because he does actually use his size. 316 00:26:14,762 --> 00:26:19,784 [Roscoe]: Oh, and as Justin just sent me from six minutes ago, Hall of Fame Buffalo Sabres 317 00:26:19,824 --> 00:26:22,745 [Roscoe]: broadcaster Rick, how do you say this? Last 318 00:26:22,674 --> 00:26:23,099 [Biehner]: and chaner 319 00:26:22,765 --> 00:26:23,766 [Roscoe]: name, because of the, 320 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:23,221 [Biehner]: it. 321 00:26:23,806 --> 00:26:30,589 [Roscoe]: Jenaret, passed away at the age of 81 after a two year illness. That is unfortunate. 322 00:26:34,134 --> 00:26:34,354 [Biehner]: Now, 323 00:26:34,179 --> 00:26:34,653 [Roscoe]: And do you? 324 00:26:34,974 --> 00:26:41,617 [Biehner]: as much as I dislike the Sabres, if you think of the Buffalo Sabres, and like 325 00:26:41,637 --> 00:26:46,160 [Biehner]: just like if I think of a Leafs play, I think of Bowen. If I think of a Sabres play, 326 00:26:46,260 --> 00:26:47,340 [Biehner]: I think of Rick Generette. 327 00:26:48,110 --> 00:26:48,460 [Roscoe]: Gotcha. 328 00:26:49,121 --> 00:26:56,405 [Biehner]: Like the Mayday call when Brad May scored to win the series. Mayday, Mayday. Like 329 00:26:57,145 --> 00:27:01,138 [Biehner]: everybody's heard that. Yeah, 330 00:27:01,122 --> 00:27:01,325 [Roscoe]: Gotcha. 331 00:27:01,479 --> 00:27:05,909 [Biehner]: absolute legend of the game. And that's a condolences to Sabres fans out there. 332 00:27:07,414 --> 00:27:12,678 [Roscoe]: Yeah, for sure. Rest in peace. It's unfortunately, you know, up and down episode 333 00:27:12,698 --> 00:27:17,121 [Roscoe]: here with that. And it seems, oh, yep, Nick Castellanos just hit another home 334 00:27:17,161 --> 00:27:17,261 [Roscoe]: run. 335 00:27:18,934 --> 00:27:19,186 [Biehner]: Cheers. 336 00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:28,315 [Roscoe]: Okay, so last thing I want to do here, do a bit of a shorter episode. What do you 337 00:27:28,395 --> 00:27:36,322 [Roscoe]: think is the difference between being, I guess, a classy fan and a trashy fan when 338 00:27:36,342 --> 00:27:43,788 [Roscoe]: you go to a game? So I want you to describe to me your classy viewing experience 339 00:27:43,828 --> 00:27:50,513 [Roscoe]: going to a Leaf game and what that looks like. So, Beaner, start with you. 340 00:27:52,658 --> 00:27:55,849 [Biehner]: Is this like personal experience as being both or? 341 00:27:56,906 --> 00:27:58,206 [Roscoe]: Now, just I wanted 342 00:27:58,210 --> 00:27:58,331 [Biehner]: Hahaha 343 00:27:58,226 --> 00:28:02,809 [Roscoe]: to hear what your opinion of this is. And everybody can chime in on Twitter or 344 00:28:02,849 --> 00:28:07,292 [Roscoe]: what they think is classy or trashy to do at an arena or at a game. But what do 345 00:28:07,652 --> 00:28:10,473 [Roscoe]: you think is like a classy way to watch the game? 346 00:28:11,842 --> 00:28:16,964 [Biehner]: So I have kind of been on, in my opinion, I've kind of been on both sides of 347 00:28:17,004 --> 00:28:26,508 [Biehner]: this. Although the trashy one wasn't really for the Leafs. So if I'm going to a 348 00:28:26,548 --> 00:28:30,350 [Biehner]: game now, like when I took my dad to the game that Matthews ended up scoring 349 00:28:30,390 --> 00:28:37,153 [Biehner]: his 60th in, like I'm as big of a fan as anybody. I'll yell and scream like cheer. 350 00:28:39,594 --> 00:28:44,738 [Biehner]: If a bad play happens, you know, I might jeer them a little bit. But as I've 351 00:28:44,778 --> 00:28:49,982 [Biehner]: grown up, I've kind of come to the realization that you don't have to get, you 352 00:28:50,002 --> 00:28:54,646 [Biehner]: know, vulgar or anything like that, because there could be, and maybe this is because 353 00:28:54,666 --> 00:28:59,350 [Biehner]: I'm a dad now, but like there could be someone there who has their five or six 354 00:28:59,390 --> 00:29:05,895 [Biehner]: year old at their first game, which yeah, okay. If I'm, if I'm two seats over from 355 00:29:05,935 --> 00:29:10,074 [Biehner]: them and I'm yelling and screaming, yeah, go, go score what, whatever. That's great. 356 00:29:10,114 --> 00:29:13,957 [Biehner]: That's part of the atmosphere. That's part of going to a game. But if I'm dropping 357 00:29:14,658 --> 00:29:17,120 [Biehner]: new words that the kid has never heard every other 358 00:29:17,014 --> 00:29:17,418 [Roscoe]: Hehehehehehe 359 00:29:17,501 --> 00:29:23,065 [Biehner]: sentence, like that, that's not, they paid as much as I did to go right. Like 360 00:29:23,086 --> 00:29:27,610 [Biehner]: that's, that's where I'm at right now. But I had been on the other side of it 361 00:29:27,670 --> 00:29:31,713 [Biehner]: where I took my buddy to a game in Ottawa to see the Canucks play cause he was 362 00:29:31,733 --> 00:29:34,956 [Biehner]: a big Canucks fan and we almost got a fight. 363 00:29:35,982 --> 00:29:36,269 [Roscoe]: Hehehehe 364 00:29:36,357 --> 00:29:40,923 [Biehner]: Like And I'm not even a Canucks fan. Like it's, I've been on both sides, but that 365 00:29:40,963 --> 00:29:47,311 [Biehner]: was, that was a long time ago back when I was in college. Um, so yeah, like 366 00:29:48,862 --> 00:29:49,082 [Roscoe]: Okay, 367 00:29:49,094 --> 00:29:49,915 [Biehner]: I have no issue. 368 00:29:50,245 --> 00:29:50,566 [Roscoe]: let's do 369 00:29:50,536 --> 00:29:50,656 [Biehner]: I 370 00:29:50,606 --> 00:29:50,766 [Roscoe]: this. 371 00:29:50,776 --> 00:29:51,797 [Biehner]: have, yep. Okay. 372 00:29:52,511 --> 00:29:55,077 [Roscoe]: What do you wear into the game if you're going classy? 373 00:30:02,620 --> 00:30:02,682 [Roscoe]: Ayy. 374 00:30:13,371 --> 00:30:13,673 [Roscoe]: Love it. 375 00:30:24,374 --> 00:30:28,911 [Roscoe]: Nah, I like that. I like that. I like that. Justin, what are you wearing to the game 376 00:30:28,951 --> 00:30:30,657 [Roscoe]: if you're classy viewing experience? 377 00:30:32,190 --> 00:30:35,537 [Biehner]: Hi. Classy trash. It doesn't matter. I'm wearing a jersey. If I have a jersey, I'm 378 00:30:35,557 --> 00:30:35,837 [Biehner]: wearing it. 379 00:30:37,671 --> 00:30:45,809 [Roscoe]: Is it trashy to wear, let's say like, a replica coach's jacket of the team to the 380 00:30:45,829 --> 00:30:46,049 [Roscoe]: game? 381 00:30:48,542 --> 00:30:50,862 [Biehner]: I don't think so. 382 00:30:50,764 --> 00:30:50,995 [Roscoe]: Okay. 383 00:30:50,902 --> 00:30:57,665 [Biehner]: Like, the way, like everybody has their own fandom, right? Like look at those 384 00:30:57,705 --> 00:31:04,708 [Biehner]: guys in Vancouver who wore the green suits. Like I wouldn't go that far, but you 385 00:31:04,748 --> 00:31:07,609 [Biehner]: do you. Like, and it's- 386 00:31:10,858 --> 00:31:13,742 [Biehner]: I was just gonna say, especially like you look at the cost of an average jersey 387 00:31:13,782 --> 00:31:19,629 [Biehner]: now is over $200. If you're going to a Leaf game, you're already mortgaging your 388 00:31:19,649 --> 00:31:24,656 [Biehner]: house to go to the game. So like if all you have is a t-shirt like. 389 00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:26,784 [Roscoe]: Oh. 390 00:31:31,403 --> 00:31:31,858 [Roscoe]: Oh my god I- 391 00:31:36,478 --> 00:31:36,759 [Roscoe]: Okay, 392 00:31:36,766 --> 00:31:37,046 [Biehner]: Okay, 393 00:31:38,684 --> 00:31:38,965 [Roscoe]: go ahead. 394 00:31:39,048 --> 00:31:48,518 [Biehner]: sorry. You live in Ottawa your whole life. You're a San Jose Sharks fan. You've 395 00:31:48,558 --> 00:31:53,003 [Biehner]: loved Carlson. You haven't had a chance to go to any Senators Sharks games because 396 00:31:53,043 --> 00:31:57,468 [Biehner]: it only happens once a year. You go to a Senators Penguins game this year wearing 397 00:31:57,508 --> 00:31:59,189 [Biehner]: a San Jose Carlson jersey. 398 00:31:59,966 --> 00:32:01,665 [Roscoe]: Okay. Okay, fine. 399 00:32:02,795 --> 00:32:03,057 [Biehner]: Well... 400 00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:15,421 [Roscoe]: That Puckdoku answer fits, fine. You win. Oh God, love ya. Okay, so face painting, 401 00:32:15,461 --> 00:32:16,301 [Roscoe]: classy or trashy? 402 00:32:18,578 --> 00:32:21,198 [Biehner]: Love it. Absolutely love it. 403 00:32:21,582 --> 00:32:21,827 [Roscoe]: Okay. 404 00:32:21,838 --> 00:32:27,180 [Biehner]: I went to game one of the cup final, 2012, with my buddy Moose, and he had the full 405 00:32:27,220 --> 00:32:31,061 [Biehner]: out playoff beard going, and he got the devil emblem painted on his face, because 406 00:32:31,081 --> 00:32:35,882 [Biehner]: he's a big time devil's fan. Like just, I wouldn't do it myself, but anybody 407 00:32:35,902 --> 00:32:41,004 [Biehner]: who has the guts to go ahead and get that done and walk around with it, by all 408 00:32:41,044 --> 00:32:45,205 [Biehner]: means be proud. 100% he did. He just had 409 00:32:45,198 --> 00:32:46,652 [Roscoe]: Hehehe... 410 00:32:45,225 --> 00:32:46,265 [Biehner]: kept his shirt on, that's all. 411 00:32:46,672 --> 00:32:47,238 [Roscoe]: Gotta support the 412 00:32:47,170 --> 00:32:48,486 [Biehner]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 413 00:32:47,258 --> 00:32:47,500 [Roscoe]: team. 414 00:32:50,766 --> 00:32:55,576 [Roscoe]: Uh, okay, what about names on jerseys? Uh, how removed from the team 415 00:32:55,414 --> 00:32:55,595 [Biehner]: This 416 00:32:55,596 --> 00:32:55,716 [Roscoe]: does 417 00:32:55,635 --> 00:32:55,736 [Biehner]: is 418 00:32:55,756 --> 00:32:55,836 [Roscoe]: the 419 00:32:55,797 --> 00:32:55,918 [Biehner]: the 420 00:32:55,877 --> 00:32:56,137 [Roscoe]: player 421 00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:56,119 [Biehner]: s- 422 00:32:56,177 --> 00:33:00,145 [Roscoe]: have to be before it becomes trashy? 423 00:33:01,470 --> 00:33:02,251 [Biehner]: It's never trashy. 424 00:33:02,823 --> 00:33:03,087 [Roscoe]: Okay. 425 00:33:04,094 --> 00:33:09,803 [Biehner]: To me, it's never trashy. If, exactly. Sorry, Sadi, I feel like I'm stepping over 426 00:33:09,823 --> 00:33:16,988 [Biehner]: you all episodes so far. If you have had that enough of a connection with a player 427 00:33:17,368 --> 00:33:21,590 [Biehner]: to purchase a jersey or shirt or coat or whatever with their name and number 428 00:33:21,610 --> 00:33:29,194 [Biehner]: on the back, wear it until it's so thin you can't wear it anymore. Like, like 429 00:33:29,294 --> 00:33:35,098 [Biehner]: even like Islanders fans, I wouldn't give an Islanders fan any flack for wearing 430 00:33:35,138 --> 00:33:39,380 [Biehner]: a Tobaro's jersey. He was their captain. He was their number one overall pick. Like, 431 00:33:41,781 --> 00:33:45,897 [Biehner]: it, yeah. I don't get why people, I thought you were going with the, like some 432 00:33:45,917 --> 00:33:48,580 [Biehner]: people say, oh, you know, grown men shouldn't wear a jersey with someone else's 433 00:33:48,620 --> 00:33:50,401 [Biehner]: name on it. Like, get the fuck out of here. 434 00:33:57,554 --> 00:34:04,469 [Roscoe]: Okay, so here's here too. What's trashier? Putting a player's name who didn't play for 435 00:34:04,489 --> 00:34:08,477 [Roscoe]: that team, wishing that they get traded to yours or putting your own name on the back. 436 00:34:10,299 --> 00:34:11,779 [Biehner]: A player that hasn't played for him to me. 437 00:34:14,896 --> 00:34:16,765 [Roscoe]: Like when people have the McDavid Leafs jerseys. 438 00:34:18,375 --> 00:34:20,597 [Biehner]: I've seen, I've seen Gretzky ones as well. 439 00:34:20,998 --> 00:34:25,119 [Roscoe]: Yeah. Okay. So that wins as trashy as Jersey. So I was trying to get somewhere 440 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:33,283 [Roscoe]: where Jersey's become trashy at a game and I found it. Okay. What about food 441 00:34:33,323 --> 00:34:37,765 [Roscoe]: at the arena? Is there anything that you would consider as classy or trashy to get? 442 00:34:40,962 --> 00:34:47,264 [Roscoe]: What about, what about like, I mean, me personally, I have spilled some fucking 443 00:34:47,324 --> 00:34:48,945 [Roscoe]: mustard on a Jersey with one 444 00:34:48,958 --> 00:34:49,261 [Biehner]: Hahaha 445 00:34:48,965 --> 00:34:53,867 [Roscoe]: of those huge, from the Senza Arena, they've got these hot dogs that are like a 446 00:34:53,927 --> 00:34:58,809 [Roscoe]: foot long. They are way too big, man. That's too much beef, too much beef. I thought, 447 00:34:59,229 --> 00:35:02,050 [Roscoe]: I really like hot dogs. I thought I wanted a huge hot dog. I didn't want that 448 00:35:02,070 --> 00:35:08,573 [Roscoe]: much, man. It's too much. But anyway, some schmutz fell on my Jersey and now it's 449 00:35:08,633 --> 00:35:14,377 [Roscoe]: all fucked up. So. I would say like anything oversized that is covered in stuff 450 00:35:14,397 --> 00:35:18,902 [Roscoe]: like that, that you have to eat with your hands is a little like, you know, you 451 00:35:18,942 --> 00:35:19,763 [Roscoe]: might get Costanza 452 00:35:19,298 --> 00:35:19,440 [Biehner]: to me. 453 00:35:19,783 --> 00:35:22,285 [Roscoe]: to where they catch you on camera struggling with that thing. 454 00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:23,928 [Biehner]: meets the nachos. 455 00:35:28,982 --> 00:35:31,017 [Biehner]: Like it. 456 00:35:35,754 --> 00:35:36,638 [Roscoe]: I know, I should have 457 00:35:36,609 --> 00:35:36,819 [Biehner]: It's. 458 00:35:36,658 --> 00:35:40,013 [Roscoe]: done it bite by bite, it's so much smarter. I'm just thinking of that now. Shit. 459 00:35:40,722 --> 00:35:45,184 [Biehner]: It's funny that you said that Roscoe, because I swear to God, when we were at the 460 00:35:45,204 --> 00:35:50,927 [Biehner]: game with me and my dad, we're both hungry. We each ordered one of them giant hot 461 00:35:50,967 --> 00:35:57,330 [Biehner]: dogs because the ACC has them as well. Loaded them all up and dad said, hey, 462 00:35:57,650 --> 00:36:00,331 [Biehner]: how much you want to bet he's going to score a 60th now that our hands are full. 463 00:36:00,873 --> 00:36:01,409 [Roscoe]: Oh god. 464 00:36:01,172 --> 00:36:04,713 [Biehner]: And sure as shit, we both get about two bites in and he scores it. 465 00:36:06,526 --> 00:36:12,661 [Roscoe]: Of course, of course. But I'm interested in why you think nachos are trashy to get. 466 00:36:14,038 --> 00:36:18,866 [Biehner]: Like, how are you supposed to eat them without spilling them on yourself, the 467 00:36:18,906 --> 00:36:24,420 [Biehner]: person in front of you and the person beside you? Like, eating nachos at a table 468 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:25,601 [Biehner]: is unflattering 469 00:36:25,678 --> 00:36:25,880 [Roscoe]: That's 470 00:36:25,701 --> 00:36:26,302 [Biehner]: and messy. 471 00:36:25,901 --> 00:36:26,104 [Roscoe]: fair. 472 00:36:26,983 --> 00:36:28,524 [Biehner]: Like, I love nachos, 473 00:36:29,078 --> 00:36:29,540 [Roscoe]: Are you talking 474 00:36:29,265 --> 00:36:29,485 [Biehner]: but... 475 00:36:29,580 --> 00:36:34,631 [Roscoe]: like nacho nachos? Like a- Are you talking like a plate of nachos or like the 476 00:36:34,692 --> 00:36:39,168 [Roscoe]: movie nachos where you get the thing of nacho dip with the chips and you just dip 477 00:36:39,208 --> 00:36:39,369 [Roscoe]: it in a 478 00:36:40,362 --> 00:36:40,832 [Biehner]: Either or. 479 00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:44,997 [Roscoe]: So my 480 00:36:44,794 --> 00:36:45,134 [Biehner]: If you're 481 00:36:45,037 --> 00:36:45,279 [Roscoe]: take 482 00:36:45,214 --> 00:36:45,374 [Biehner]: at 483 00:36:45,340 --> 00:36:45,421 [Roscoe]: on... 484 00:36:45,414 --> 00:36:47,076 [Biehner]: a seat in a stadium, sorry, 485 00:36:47,596 --> 00:36:48,136 [Roscoe]: Now go for it. 486 00:36:48,577 --> 00:36:54,201 [Biehner]: it's like a hot dog, a burger, a sandwich, slice of pizza, like something you 487 00:36:54,221 --> 00:36:59,465 [Biehner]: would pack yourself for a lunch where you don't have a table to sit at to eat. 488 00:37:02,322 --> 00:37:08,205 [Roscoe]: Yeah. For me, it's that it seems like something that's not the best bang for your 489 00:37:08,245 --> 00:37:12,288 [Roscoe]: buck at the arena. Like everything at the arena is at least 490 00:37:12,587 --> 00:37:13,008 [Biehner]: Nothing at 491 00:37:12,948 --> 00:37:13,369 [Roscoe]: 20. 492 00:37:13,048 --> 00:37:13,470 [Biehner]: the arena 493 00:37:13,429 --> 00:37:15,290 [Roscoe]: No, 494 00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:14,913 [Biehner]: is a good bang for your buck. 495 00:37:15,730 --> 00:37:21,674 [Roscoe]: but hear me out. If everything's between like 20 and 26 dollars, like you might as well 496 00:37:21,734 --> 00:37:27,137 [Roscoe]: get, like if chicken fingers and fries are like a dollar 50 more than getting nachos. 497 00:37:27,966 --> 00:37:31,307 [Roscoe]: or like a burger and fries as a couple bucks more than getting nachos. Like that just 498 00:37:31,327 --> 00:37:37,750 [Roscoe]: seems like so much better value than getting nachos. Like, I don't know. For me, 499 00:37:37,831 --> 00:37:41,052 [Roscoe]: popcorn at the game is weird. I wouldn't call it trashy, but it's something that I just 500 00:37:41,292 --> 00:37:43,533 [Roscoe]: I don't I don't get. I wouldn't do. 501 00:37:44,728 --> 00:37:50,593 [Biehner]: dude at the Jays game that I was at. He had the special commemorative Jay's 502 00:37:50,853 --> 00:37:53,437 [Biehner]: popcorn container and he caught a foul ball in it. It was awesome. 503 00:37:54,486 --> 00:37:59,797 [Roscoe]: Damn, that is pretty cool. But again, it's like that you constantly have something 504 00:37:59,817 --> 00:38:03,063 [Roscoe]: in your hands, and your hands are always greasy, and like, I don't wanna touch 505 00:38:03,083 --> 00:38:05,849 [Roscoe]: the jersey, I don't know. I don't know. 506 00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:08,460 [Biehner]: What are you doing touching your jersey anyways? You've got it on, why do you 507 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,001 [Biehner]: have to touch it? 508 00:38:09,930 --> 00:38:13,415 [Roscoe]: I don't know, I don't have to do with my hands, I'm fidgety. I'm literally playing 509 00:38:13,475 --> 00:38:16,440 [Roscoe]: with the whole out of a fidget thing that I broke right now. 510 00:38:16,990 --> 00:38:17,391 [Biehner]: You hold 511 00:38:17,241 --> 00:38:17,581 [Roscoe]: Like, that's... 512 00:38:17,411 --> 00:38:19,917 [Biehner]: a beer in one hand and you cheer with the other. 513 00:38:20,422 --> 00:38:24,761 [Roscoe]: Okay, so that leads me to the next one. How many beers is trashy? 514 00:38:28,586 --> 00:38:29,833 [Biehner]: Why are you driving? 515 00:38:35,070 --> 00:38:41,408 [Roscoe]: Yeah, I guess, okay. I guess that's how we'll say it. Is getting up mid period 516 00:38:41,669 --> 00:38:43,053 [Roscoe]: to go get another beer trashy? 517 00:38:43,922 --> 00:38:53,061 [Biehner]: Yes, in my opinion. If, like, yeah, if, okay, I, I'm gonna sound like an alcoholic 518 00:38:53,101 --> 00:38:59,866 [Biehner]: here. I can handle my beer. So if I'm tying one on, I'm not driving, I don't 519 00:38:59,886 --> 00:39:04,890 [Biehner]: have to worry about how I'm getting home and I'm having a good time, you need to 520 00:39:04,910 --> 00:39:07,652 [Biehner]: come back with two beers. Like 521 00:39:07,650 --> 00:39:07,935 [Roscoe]: That's 522 00:39:07,672 --> 00:39:08,313 [Biehner]: you don't just grab 523 00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:08,445 [Roscoe]: true, 524 00:39:08,453 --> 00:39:08,593 [Biehner]: one. 525 00:39:08,689 --> 00:39:08,852 [Roscoe]: yeah. 526 00:39:09,914 --> 00:39:16,505 [Biehner]: Like, gotta preface it with we have to be responsible. Nine times out of 10, I'm 527 00:39:16,545 --> 00:39:20,821 [Biehner]: driving anymore, so I have one, maybe two at a game, and that's about it. But. 528 00:39:21,786 --> 00:39:26,069 [Roscoe]: Yeah, same here with Ottawa. I'm always driving because I don't want to spend $90 on 529 00:39:26,089 --> 00:39:34,295 [Roscoe]: an Uber and four and a half hours getting there and back. But yeah, I mean, getting 530 00:39:34,335 --> 00:39:38,898 [Roscoe]: to, you're still good. I think that's justified because you don't want to leave during 531 00:39:38,918 --> 00:39:43,362 [Roscoe]: the period. Because I think anybody who, during the play, because they let you 532 00:39:43,422 --> 00:39:47,264 [Roscoe]: do this at some arenas, like you're in Ottawa, during the play just goes back to 533 00:39:47,285 --> 00:39:50,907 [Roscoe]: their seat, that's trashy. Anybody who gets up or goes back to their seat while 534 00:39:50,927 --> 00:39:52,173 [Roscoe]: the play is on, that's trashy. 535 00:39:55,614 --> 00:40:01,884 [Roscoe]: Um, what else is there? Oh, I mean, there's 536 00:40:01,762 --> 00:40:02,044 [Biehner]: throwing 537 00:40:01,904 --> 00:40:02,325 [Roscoe]: degree. 538 00:40:02,085 --> 00:40:02,892 [Biehner]: stuff on the ice. 539 00:40:03,527 --> 00:40:12,705 [Roscoe]: Oh, throwing stuff on the ice. Definitely trashy. Um, what about the, um, 540 00:40:14,234 --> 00:40:15,605 [Biehner]: exception for hats and hat tricks. 541 00:40:16,410 --> 00:40:19,833 [Roscoe]: Okay, fair. What about the people that try to sneak down to seats? 542 00:40:24,330 --> 00:40:30,567 [Biehner]: Honestly? If you want to go ahead and try that, like take that risk of potentially 543 00:40:30,587 --> 00:40:36,970 [Biehner]: being tossed out, go for it. It makes the arena look fuller on TV. Personally, if 544 00:40:37,110 --> 00:40:39,811 [Biehner]: I'm there and I see a section with a whole bunch of empty seats, I'm like, Oh, 545 00:40:39,831 --> 00:40:43,692 [Biehner]: what the hell's going on? Like it, I don't know, maybe psychologically it just, 546 00:40:43,773 --> 00:40:45,973 [Biehner]: it's better to have. Yeah. 547 00:40:47,658 --> 00:40:50,898 [Roscoe]: Yeah, I think there's context to that. I think if you just like right off the bat, 548 00:40:50,958 --> 00:40:55,140 [Roscoe]: go up to some seats on the front row when you bought Nosebleeds, like that's pretty 549 00:40:55,180 --> 00:41:00,941 [Roscoe]: risky. But if after a couple, you know, if at least like midway through the second, 550 00:41:00,981 --> 00:41:05,362 [Roscoe]: if there's still some empty seats up there, I'd say that's probably free game. 551 00:41:07,823 --> 00:41:11,164 [Roscoe]: Now that you bring that up, it is interesting. Like for most things, they will 552 00:41:11,184 --> 00:41:14,185 [Roscoe]: have people fill seats. Like most events that aren't sporting events, they'll 553 00:41:14,225 --> 00:41:17,610 [Roscoe]: bring people in specifically just to fill seats. I mean, my girlfriend and I 554 00:41:17,630 --> 00:41:20,612 [Roscoe]: were at a comedy show where we were moved up into the front row to fill seats because 555 00:41:20,632 --> 00:41:26,616 [Roscoe]: they were filming it. It seems odd to me that sports arenas don't do this. Like 556 00:41:27,057 --> 00:41:30,959 [Roscoe]: once the game has started, if there's people whose tickets aren't checked, like I 557 00:41:30,999 --> 00:41:34,522 [Roscoe]: guess if they're season ticket holders, they can't assume that those people aren't 558 00:41:34,562 --> 00:41:39,645 [Roscoe]: coming, which is probably the problem. But it just seems strange that they wouldn't 559 00:41:41,487 --> 00:41:46,387 [Roscoe]: at least ask the season ticket holders to RSVP by a certain time. or else they'll 560 00:41:46,427 --> 00:41:50,253 [Roscoe]: just say like, hey, we will fill your seats for the sake of the broadcast if you 561 00:41:50,294 --> 00:41:52,377 [Roscoe]: don't, you know, say you're coming. 562 00:41:53,418 --> 00:41:57,406 [Biehner]: Yeah. Realistically, that would, in my opinion, that would be the better way 563 00:41:57,426 --> 00:42:02,797 [Biehner]: to do it because then it, yet again, it's just, it's psychologically, it feels better. 564 00:42:04,394 --> 00:42:09,196 [Roscoe]: Yeah, because how many times, like, especially with the people that are season 565 00:42:09,216 --> 00:42:13,998 [Roscoe]: ticket holders, you know, at least for Toronto, it's a lot of, like we say, the 566 00:42:14,058 --> 00:42:18,460 [Roscoe]: suits and the corporate seats, all the biggest fans that are cheering the hardest 567 00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:21,541 [Roscoe]: are up in the 300s usually. So, I mean, you bring a bunch of those people down, 568 00:42:21,561 --> 00:42:25,983 [Roscoe]: it's going to make the broadcast look a lot better. Just saying. You know, a bunch 569 00:42:26,023 --> 00:42:29,465 [Roscoe]: of signs all of a sudden come down on camera. Maybe you have to block some of 570 00:42:29,485 --> 00:42:30,585 [Roscoe]: them out, but at least they're there. 571 00:42:32,094 --> 00:42:34,637 [Biehner]: Plus change the atmosphere of the game right I'm sure the players would love 572 00:42:34,677 --> 00:42:38,041 [Biehner]: it to see these fans going wild rather than guys in suits 573 00:42:39,353 --> 00:42:49,660 [Roscoe]: Mm-mm. um what else uh is trying to catch a t-shirt from the uh mascots t-shirt 574 00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:50,541 [Roscoe]: canon trashy 575 00:42:59,147 --> 00:42:59,272 [Roscoe]: But 576 00:43:00,518 --> 00:43:01,039 [Biehner]: Perfect. 577 00:43:03,355 --> 00:43:08,324 [Roscoe]: Okay, got it. Grabbing anything from a toss at a game is classy. Pushing a kid over 578 00:43:08,364 --> 00:43:11,309 [Roscoe]: to do so is trashy. There 579 00:43:10,818 --> 00:43:11,020 [Biehner]: I'm out. 580 00:43:11,329 --> 00:43:19,283 [Roscoe]: you go. Oh god, anything else we can break down at the game? What else is there? 581 00:43:21,126 --> 00:43:27,757 [Roscoe]: Yeah, signs are signs, I guess depending on what it says, it's pretty gray area. 582 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:32,847 [Roscoe]: Oh true. 583 00:43:35,307 --> 00:43:39,897 [Biehner]: Am I weird for thinking that if you're an adult, maybe signs are trashy? 584 00:43:41,054 --> 00:43:44,238 [Roscoe]: I don't think you're weird for that. I think it's strange 585 00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:44,025 [Biehner]: Like. 586 00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:50,288 [Roscoe]: as an adult to like, make, do some crafts to show another adult that, you know, 587 00:43:51,029 --> 00:43:53,993 [Roscoe]: you love what they do. I don't know, I think that's kind of strange. 588 00:43:54,866 --> 00:43:58,969 [Biehner]: Yeah, like kids by all means, like that's part of the experience, right? They're 589 00:43:58,989 --> 00:44:02,653 [Biehner]: trying to get their idols to notice them. 590 00:44:03,147 --> 00:44:03,455 [Roscoe]: Yeah. 591 00:44:04,094 --> 00:44:08,078 [Biehner]: But I don't know, like unless it was like Luke Man coming to Canada for the 592 00:44:08,098 --> 00:44:12,782 [Biehner]: first time, like one of them, I traveled 30,000 or however many thousand kilometers 593 00:44:12,614 --> 00:44:14,301 [Roscoe]: Exactly. 594 00:44:12,822 --> 00:44:13,643 [Biehner]: it is, right? Like 595 00:44:14,321 --> 00:44:14,783 [Roscoe]: There's 596 00:44:14,664 --> 00:44:14,864 [Biehner]: shout 597 00:44:14,823 --> 00:44:15,345 [Roscoe]: context. 598 00:44:14,884 --> 00:44:15,324 [Biehner]: out Luke Man. 599 00:44:19,042 --> 00:44:25,052 [Roscoe]: But if you're just like, yo, Marth sauce me a stick on a sign, like, no, get out 600 00:44:25,072 --> 00:44:30,806 [Roscoe]: of here. I just had one. Ha ha 601 00:44:35,193 --> 00:44:38,245 [Roscoe]: Oh my God. With his number from Be A Pro and Chell. 602 00:44:39,746 --> 00:44:40,118 [Biehner]: Oh my god. 603 00:44:42,050 --> 00:44:50,214 [Roscoe]: Definitely. Oh my God. Shit, I just thought of, oh, any noisemaker at the game, 604 00:44:50,294 --> 00:44:52,495 [Roscoe]: Trashy, don't leave your fucking, 605 00:44:52,418 --> 00:44:52,479 [Biehner]: 100%. 606 00:44:52,635 --> 00:44:58,078 [Roscoe]: your drums and your kazoos and your spinny noisemaker things at home. I'm so tired 607 00:44:58,118 --> 00:45:02,761 [Roscoe]: of this every time there's somebody with one. Unless you are a mascot who is paid 608 00:45:02,821 --> 00:45:07,563 [Roscoe]: by the team to make noise, don't, like, how do they let people in with these 609 00:45:07,603 --> 00:45:12,278 [Roscoe]: things? I don't get it. It's always like the one drum guy, you know? It's like 610 00:45:12,318 --> 00:45:15,981 [Roscoe]: he's got a handshake deal with the team to be able to bring this drum in when 611 00:45:16,061 --> 00:45:20,985 [Roscoe]: nobody else. But you have the cowbell guy. There's always the cowbell person. And 612 00:45:21,005 --> 00:45:24,928 [Roscoe]: they've got like the cape on with like the, you know, it's the flag of the team. 613 00:45:24,948 --> 00:45:29,753 [Roscoe]: And they're like jumping around. It's like. They're not looking for a new mascot, 614 00:45:29,853 --> 00:45:34,436 [Roscoe]: like you're not going to get hired. I don't get what you're doing. Those people 615 00:45:34,476 --> 00:45:35,577 [Roscoe]: bug me. That's trashy. 616 00:45:41,983 --> 00:45:48,509 [Roscoe]: man. Classy move I've seen a couple times the last few games I've gone to is there's 617 00:45:48,549 --> 00:45:53,274 [Roscoe]: like a group of kids and there's like a couple parents and they'll like get the seats 618 00:45:53,314 --> 00:45:56,617 [Roscoe]: like behind them and the kids have like their own little row and there's like 619 00:45:56,837 --> 00:46:01,121 [Roscoe]: three or four of them. Yeah, looks like they're always having a good time. 620 00:46:08,722 --> 00:46:13,530 [Roscoe]: Yeah, see only child. I went to a lot of games with a lot of a lot of adults 621 00:46:13,570 --> 00:46:19,079 [Roscoe]: as a kid. So, you know, different experience. Maybe that's just me being jealous. 622 00:46:20,020 --> 00:46:22,625 [Roscoe]: Anyway, 623 00:46:20,062 --> 00:46:22,205 [Biehner]: Now I've got one for you guys. 624 00:46:22,665 --> 00:46:22,945 [Roscoe]: what's that? 625 00:46:23,848 --> 00:46:29,097 [Biehner]: Someone wearing an object in as a hat that isn't designed to be a hat. 626 00:46:30,522 --> 00:46:33,690 [Roscoe]: Oh man, like a garbage can lid or... 627 00:46:34,738 --> 00:46:40,168 [Biehner]: or like a bucket from a local wing joint that was brought to you with beer and 628 00:46:40,229 --> 00:46:40,629 [Biehner]: ice in it. 629 00:46:42,534 --> 00:46:47,045 [Roscoe]: Yeah, and I'm gonna I'm gonna lump in dollar 630 00:46:46,998 --> 00:46:47,098 [Biehner]: That 631 00:46:47,086 --> 00:46:47,426 [Roscoe]: store 632 00:46:47,118 --> 00:46:47,460 [Biehner]: was me, 633 00:46:47,467 --> 00:46:47,868 [Roscoe]: color. 634 00:46:47,541 --> 00:46:47,963 [Biehner]: by the way. 635 00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:51,437 [Roscoe]: Wait, actually, get the fuck out of here. Why? 636 00:46:52,610 --> 00:46:56,213 [Biehner]: So my one buddy, the same one I went to Ottawa with, who I almost got in a fight, 637 00:46:56,354 --> 00:47:02,380 [Biehner]: big time Canucks fan, for his bachelor party, it actually timed out perfectly that 638 00:47:02,860 --> 00:47:06,884 [Biehner]: his NFL team, the Buccaneers, and his NHL team, the Canucks, were both playing 639 00:47:06,904 --> 00:47:08,105 [Biehner]: in Buffalo in the same weekend. 640 00:47:09,091 --> 00:47:09,490 [Roscoe]: Oh shit. 641 00:47:10,218 --> 00:47:14,499 [Biehner]: He went to university down in St. Catharines, so he had friends down there. We 642 00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:17,040 [Biehner]: stayed at one of their house, so we just made up, the whole bachelor party was 643 00:47:17,060 --> 00:47:23,383 [Biehner]: a whole weekend. We hired a coach bus to take us from St. Catharines to Buffalo. 644 00:47:23,443 --> 00:47:27,885 [Biehner]: Like, it was a great time. And we ate at this wing joint that was just down the 645 00:47:27,905 --> 00:47:36,288 [Biehner]: road from the Sabres Arena. And needless to say, there was a lot of beverages ingested. 646 00:47:36,528 --> 00:47:43,777 [Biehner]: And as we're getting ready to pay and to leave, I was really thirsty. We were 647 00:47:43,797 --> 00:47:46,541 [Biehner]: already leaving. There's a big bucket full of icy water in front of me. 648 00:47:47,402 --> 00:47:47,671 [Roscoe]: Oh boy. 649 00:47:47,782 --> 00:47:51,247 [Biehner]: I may or may not have drank it and put it on my head as a hat and walked out of 650 00:47:51,267 --> 00:47:53,329 [Biehner]: the bar. 651 00:47:52,068 --> 00:47:53,323 [Roscoe]: Oh boy. Well 652 00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:53,469 [Biehner]: They 653 00:47:53,364 --> 00:47:53,688 [Roscoe]: done. 654 00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:56,553 [Biehner]: let me, they let me out of the bar and in the arena wearing it. 655 00:47:57,070 --> 00:47:59,937 [Roscoe]: That is actually the craziest part of it, that they let you 656 00:48:00,584 --> 00:48:01,188 [Biehner]: Hahaha 657 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:06,213 [Roscoe]: leave the bar like that and enter an arena like that. Damn. 658 00:48:05,630 --> 00:48:08,693 [Biehner]: And I wasn't the one that got kicked out of the arena. We had friends who did, but. 659 00:48:10,698 --> 00:48:18,863 [Roscoe]: done. I was gonna say I'm lumping in shitty like streamer dollar store wigs like 660 00:48:18,903 --> 00:48:24,086 [Roscoe]: the blue and white ones people have like those... I'm over that come on guys like 661 00:48:24,386 --> 00:48:30,070 [Roscoe]: dye your hair or paint your face that's those are kind of acceptable that's a little 662 00:48:30,550 --> 00:48:36,153 [Roscoe]: silly. What else is there? I can't think of anything else 663 00:48:39,135 --> 00:48:40,395 [Biehner]: Yeah, I'm kind of at a loss. 664 00:48:41,922 --> 00:48:42,432 [Roscoe]: Go for it. 665 00:48:49,564 --> 00:48:49,891 [Roscoe]: Oh god. 666 00:49:01,458 --> 00:49:04,501 [Roscoe]: I saw that and didn't realize he's like not even a relevant person. 667 00:49:10,419 --> 00:49:10,683 [Roscoe]: Oh no. 668 00:49:20,522 --> 00:49:21,064 [Roscoe]: Oh my god. 669 00:49:32,864 --> 00:49:33,007 [Roscoe]: in 670 00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:33,181 [Biehner]: and 671 00:49:33,151 --> 00:49:33,233 [Roscoe]: the 672 00:49:33,201 --> 00:49:33,386 [Biehner]: the NHL. 673 00:49:33,294 --> 00:49:33,376 [Roscoe]: NHL. 674 00:49:36,893 --> 00:49:37,425 [Roscoe]: Lindros? 675 00:49:38,242 --> 00:49:39,940 [Biehner]: I would have to say Jagger or Lindrass, yeah. 676 00:49:44,014 --> 00:49:45,816 [Roscoe]: Holy shit, what? 677 00:50:08,318 --> 00:50:09,048 [Biehner]: I don't think we can. 678 00:50:13,966 --> 00:50:17,207 [Roscoe]: That was fire. Give me a new fire for that. 679 00:50:21,710 --> 00:50:28,654 [Roscoe]: I don't even, that's insane. Like I knew there were teams that were not cap compliant 680 00:50:28,674 --> 00:50:33,017 [Roscoe]: but I didn't realize it was like there were players making more money than players 681 00:50:33,077 --> 00:50:34,397 [Roscoe]: are now at the max. 682 00:50:45,383 --> 00:50:46,069 [Roscoe]: I don't get it. 683 00:50:49,662 --> 00:50:57,165 [Roscoe]: You know, as much as we can blame how Betman runs this league, the NHLPA has 684 00:50:57,445 --> 00:51:02,347 [Roscoe]: really done themselves absolutely no favors at all in getting their own salaries 685 00:51:02,407 --> 00:51:10,330 [Roscoe]: up over the same course of time. Like, this, if they, if they were an active union, 686 00:51:10,530 --> 00:51:16,393 [Roscoe]: like, they would be livid with 80% of the things that he does. And instead they're 687 00:51:16,413 --> 00:51:19,942 [Roscoe]: just like, we'll take it to the next bargaining. Like every time it's like, oh, 688 00:51:19,962 --> 00:51:24,524 [Roscoe]: it might be a lockout. The players just fold on everything. They always do. So 689 00:51:24,644 --> 00:51:28,186 [Roscoe]: or they'll sell out the next generation to, you know, make it a little better on them. 690 00:51:28,206 --> 00:51:33,948 [Roscoe]: But it seems that Berman always gets his way. And, you know, that's kind of his 691 00:51:34,008 --> 00:51:38,490 [Roscoe]: job. They've just been losing time after time in these negotiations. And here 692 00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:44,232 [Roscoe]: we are. Entry level contracts in the NHL are what, 900 or nine hundred and fifty 693 00:51:44,272 --> 00:51:49,745 [Roscoe]: grand in 2023, which I mean. Not to shy at how much money that is, especially US 694 00:51:49,785 --> 00:51:59,327 [Roscoe]: dollars, but I mean, come on. What's an entry level contract in the MDA? What is 695 00:51:59,367 --> 00:52:00,673 [Roscoe]: an NBA entry-level contract? 696 00:52:02,082 --> 00:52:03,215 [Biehner]: For NBA, I couldn't tell you. 697 00:52:04,286 --> 00:52:16,296 [Roscoe]: It is. What is it? How much is a rookie contract? Oh, get the fuck out of here. So 698 00:52:16,380 --> 00:52:16,567 [Roscoe]: it's... 699 00:52:19,748 --> 00:52:27,213 [Roscoe]: It's like 10 million a year? Yeah, okay, so, oh, it depends on when you were picked. 700 00:52:33,931 --> 00:52:40,136 [Roscoe]: Uh, yeah, so if you're the first overall pick, first year salary is $10 million, second 701 00:52:40,156 --> 00:52:44,120 [Roscoe]: year salary is 10.6, third year option is 11.1. 702 00:52:47,343 --> 00:52:52,828 [Roscoe]: Honestly, until the 30th pick, you're still making over 2 million a year for three 703 00:52:52,848 --> 00:52:54,689 [Roscoe]: years. That's insane. 704 00:53:00,982 --> 00:53:06,721 [Roscoe]: Like, what? I did not realize these entry-level contracts were so high. 705 00:53:10,366 --> 00:53:22,305 [Roscoe]: Anyway, that's how far behind we are. That sucks. Thanks for tuning in. Fuck, I hate 706 00:53:22,325 --> 00:53:27,509 [Roscoe]: this league sometimes, man. It's so stupid. Follow us everywhere, watch the videos, 707 00:53:27,769 --> 00:53:34,013 [Roscoe]: send us questions. I got some, I know I said I had merch coming out. I'm just, I'm 708 00:53:34,053 --> 00:53:37,095 [Roscoe]: still working on it. I'm sorry. I want it to be perfect. I'm a perfectionist. 709 00:53:38,036 --> 00:53:40,237 [Roscoe]: It's coming. Love you, good night. 710 00:54:09,426 --> 00:54:13,437 [Roscoe]: If you have any other ideas for classier trashy things, send that in too, that was fun. 711 00:54:18,222 --> 00:54:21,178 [Roscoe]: I've been listening to podcasts, are you garbage?