1 00:00:00,020 --> 00:00:01,400 I was not 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:02,060 included in the 3 00:00:02,060 --> 00:00:02,300 decision. 4 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,960 Then when there was a problem, we had to solve it as a family. 5 00:00:08,260 --> 00:00:10,380 "What the hell? We didn't even decide to join!" 6 00:00:10,940 --> 00:00:11,840 "I just 7 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:12,880 found out about that!" 8 00:00:13,660 --> 00:00:14,860 "We have that kind of thing!" 9 00:00:16,060 --> 00:00:18,340 All of a sudden, you had a problem. 10 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,220 Sometimes, 11 00:00:21,340 --> 00:00:23,200 all of their salaries are directly to the 12 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:23,660 parents. 13 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:25,360 In Klapno? - Yes. 14 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,580 We met at a college. 15 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,720 He gave us 500 pesos. 16 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:37,520 Wow. - He sometimes eats it. 17 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:40,380 He sends it to his family. 18 00:00:40,900 --> 00:00:41,260 We were in college. - Wow. 19 00:00:42,780 --> 00:00:44,040 He was there long before he graduated. 20 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:45,500 Wow. - It's 21 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:46,000 like... 22 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,380 the dinkwap show dual income no kids with a podcast 23 00:01:09,020 --> 00:01:14,820 hello and welcome to another episode of the dinkwap show and we are your hosts i am rem 24 00:01:14,820 --> 00:01:20,700 i'm Okay, bye! 25 00:01:22,140 --> 00:01:23,500 I'm still not used to it. 26 00:01:24,979 --> 00:01:25,940 I just got 27 00:01:25,940 --> 00:01:26,640 used to it because, 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:27,880 what's our topic? 29 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:35,960 No, we talked about it in the past episodes, about the". 30 00:01:36,780 --> 00:01:38,020 And they 31 00:01:38,020 --> 00:01:40,640 call it in English, "failure to 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,440 launch." 33 00:01:45,460 --> 00:01:47,200 It's not that big deal in the Philippines 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:47,760 because it's the opposite. 35 00:01:48,880 --> 00:02:00,400 Instead of having children who are independent, that's the extreme. 36 00:02:01,140 --> 00:02:02,100 They're being forced to go outside. 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:09,580 But this one, they're trying to put a leash 38 00:02:09,580 --> 00:02:11,100 on 39 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:11,640 the children. 40 00:02:16,019 --> 00:02:20,820 Although we helped out our parents while 41 00:02:20,820 --> 00:02:21,720 we 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,040 were there, they weren't dependent on us. 43 00:02:24,670 --> 00:02:25,440 So technically, 44 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:29,960 you're just helping them pay for their stay. 45 00:02:30,580 --> 00:02:31,680 They're subsidized. 46 00:02:32,300 --> 00:02:34,100 It's like boarding lodging. 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:35,160 It's 48 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:35,960 just that it's small. 49 00:02:36,850 --> 00:02:38,020 Instead of if 50 00:02:38,020 --> 00:02:40,600 you're going to live on your own. 51 00:02:41,460 --> 00:02:43,640 But that's not the case with most of the situations. 52 00:02:44,260 --> 00:02:44,580 -That's right. 53 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:44,960 -So 54 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:50,200 some people, you know, they don't even graduate yet and they're still saying, "Oh, you're a girl, you're so 55 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,760 beautiful." Things like that. 56 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,200 I think that's also a factor. 57 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,880 So some people are not able to do anything else. 58 00:02:57,620 --> 00:02:57,700 -Yeah. 59 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:58,140 -Because 60 00:02:58,140 --> 00:03:01,920 sometimes, all of their salaries are directly to their 61 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:02,220 parents. 62 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:02,640 -That's right. 63 00:03:03,220 --> 00:03:03,920 -It's a bit of a coincidence, right? 64 00:03:04,020 --> 00:03:04,200 -Yeah. 65 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,300 Because we had a friend who we knew from college. 66 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:08,940 -Yeah. 67 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,580 Even though he's still like that, even though 68 00:03:40,580 --> 00:03:41,620 he's 69 00:03:41,620 --> 00:03:42,720 already paid a lot of money, right? 70 00:03:42,980 --> 00:03:43,180 Right. 71 00:03:43,500 --> 00:03:43,680 And 72 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:44,680 then he's already sick. 73 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,280 And then he's talking to his friend 74 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,020 or us. 75 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,460 And he's like, "You can't do that. You have to first take care of yourself." Yes. 76 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,060 "Even if you need your family, how can you die there?" 77 00:04:00,300 --> 00:04:00,940 "You 78 00:04:00,940 --> 00:04:04,480 know, you don't have enough nutrition in your body." 79 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:04,760 Yeah. 80 00:04:04,980 --> 00:04:05,520 That's 81 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,860 what he said to her. He really talked about that. 82 00:04:09,020 --> 00:04:11,060 Because in college, you only earn a little. 83 00:04:13,350 --> 00:04:15,220 So you just give what you can. 84 00:04:17,340 --> 00:04:22,500 So when he started working, I was like, "What's happening? Why is it still like that?" You're still living... 85 00:04:24,860 --> 00:04:26,520 You don't eat every day. 86 00:04:27,070 --> 00:04:28,660 You work for others. 87 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,340 To support your family. 88 00:04:30,790 --> 00:04:31,180 Not just 89 00:04:31,180 --> 00:04:32,860 your family that you're building. 90 00:04:33,180 --> 00:04:33,500 Not really. 91 00:04:33,790 --> 00:04:34,200 Your family 92 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,500 that... 93 00:04:37,220 --> 00:04:40,160 I mean, you cannot discount if you really need a family. 94 00:04:40,370 --> 00:04:41,340 But why 95 00:04:41,340 --> 00:04:41,900 do you have a burden? 96 00:04:42,690 --> 00:04:42,860 Yes. 97 00:04:43,460 --> 00:04:43,740 It's like that. 98 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,700 You're still starting, right? 99 00:04:46,540 --> 00:04:49,080 As for him, how do you eat? 100 00:04:50,300 --> 00:04:52,520 Even if you don't have that on you. 101 00:04:53,220 --> 00:04:53,320 That's it. 102 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:54,440 Those things. 103 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,340 And actually, I have a lot of profiles like that in my life. 104 00:04:58,970 --> 00:04:59,160 Really? 105 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,460 Actually, and my friends. 106 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,060 Especially when they're in Fresh Grad, they don't really save. 107 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,300 Because their money was enough. 108 00:05:08,050 --> 00:05:08,840 And the rest... 109 00:05:08,980 --> 00:05:09,340 -It's so sad. 110 00:05:10,060 --> 00:05:10,280 -Because... 111 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,580 They said their salary to their parents. 112 00:05:14,020 --> 00:05:15,460 -That's where you're wrong. 113 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:17,780 -Their parents counted. 114 00:05:18,420 --> 00:05:18,520 -That's 115 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,520 where you're wrong. 116 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:21,160 -So they counted the 117 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:21,580 contribution. 118 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,460 Again, I'm not encouraging you to be stingy. 119 00:05:26,100 --> 00:05:26,360 But... 120 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:26,440 -Yeah. 121 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,640 -You also need to... 122 00:05:29,300 --> 00:05:29,460 Right? 123 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,440 You can't leave the house. 124 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:32,959 And you're not just... 125 00:05:32,980 --> 00:05:39,720 I have friends who have the privilege of not supporting their family. 126 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:40,680 They can buy 127 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,020 a car and travel immediately. 128 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,460 Others understandably think that they're FOMO 129 00:05:45,460 --> 00:05:46,400 because 130 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,280 they need to give to their parents. 131 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:53,480 Sometimes, they need to borrow because there's an emergency at home. 132 00:05:55,060 --> 00:05:55,460 So at 133 00:05:55,460 --> 00:05:57,400 least I'm 134 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,220 in the position that I can borrow sometimes. 135 00:06:01,180 --> 00:06:04,460 But that's it. Your hard work is all there. 136 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:06,940 That's what I appreciate about my parents. 137 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,660 Although, of course, there are some things that are 138 00:06:09,660 --> 00:06:10,000 said about it. 139 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:10,440 Because of course, 140 00:06:10,740 --> 00:06:13,300 that's the norm of society. 141 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:13,820 The 142 00:06:13,820 --> 00:06:15,820 child 143 00:06:15,820 --> 00:06:16,400 should be the one to give. 144 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:17,680 But they 145 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:18,580 didn't enforce it. 146 00:06:19,620 --> 00:06:21,080 Even if they did, I still have a hard time. 147 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,220 Because I know that it shouldn't be like that. 148 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:31,220 You as a parent, your responsibility is to be self-sufficient for your children. 149 00:06:31,900 --> 00:06:32,880 You don't 150 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,760 rely on them. They will build 151 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:35,480 their own life 152 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,500 and pass it forward. 153 00:06:36,900 --> 00:06:39,220 For us, it's like contributing to the household. 154 00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:40,480 But 155 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:41,980 it's so subsidized. 156 00:06:42,460 --> 00:06:42,580 For 157 00:06:42,580 --> 00:06:43,320 example, 158 00:06:43,380 --> 00:06:48,720 if you have food that you want to eat outside of what 159 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:49,080 you buy 160 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,460 at home, it's up to you. 161 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,480 And your daily transport 162 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,240 when you 163 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:54,380 work. 164 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,060 When you work, that's it. 165 00:06:57,639 --> 00:07:02,180 That's what we did. We didn't give half of your salary. 166 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,340 -We didn't enforce it. 167 00:07:04,780 --> 00:07:05,040 -To be 168 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,960 fair, I only told my salary to the first person. 169 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,260 Then I knew the modus. 170 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:09,680 I didn't tell it. 171 00:07:10,980 --> 00:07:11,860 I didn't tell it 172 00:07:11,860 --> 00:07:12,040 ever. 173 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:12,600 My 174 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:12,880 salary. 175 00:07:13,660 --> 00:07:15,100 -Guys, it's not going to be soil. 176 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,040 You just... 177 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:18,580 -You have to look out for yourself. 178 00:07:19,780 --> 00:07:22,160 You should know how your parents treat you. 179 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:22,800 And 180 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,120 if you're going to help, you should help. 181 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:26,440 You should give them extra. 182 00:07:27,220 --> 00:07:28,340 They shouldn't be forced. 183 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,940 There are many people who are unfortunately forced. 184 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,200 For example, 185 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,100 one parent is working and the financial situation is not that 186 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:41,720 good. 187 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,680 They know that when they work, it's not just for the family. 188 00:07:48,580 --> 00:07:49,420 They can't be separated. 189 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:49,820 That's 190 00:07:49,820 --> 00:07:50,200 okay. 191 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,980 And you'll understand because you need to help the family. 192 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,180 Okay, okay, given, given. 193 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:03,900 But what about when the family is okay, but they still get something? 194 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:04,640 There's that. 195 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:06,600 It's like, what else? 196 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:07,760 You're still gaslighted. 197 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:09,420 Of course, we know that. 198 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:10,420 We're in a delisery. 199 00:08:42,860 --> 00:08:49,540 Sometimes, he gets angry but he just hears that his friends and children are 200 00:08:49,540 --> 00:08:51,180 giving money to him. 201 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:52,600 I also heard that. 202 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,080 It's like, "He's so good." That's why he's also seen on TV. 203 00:08:57,380 --> 00:08:59,020 He's giving a lot to his children. 204 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:05,580 "They're so good." "The parents 205 00:09:05,580 --> 00:09:05,980 are good." 206 00:09:06,820 --> 00:09:07,180 You're so annoying. 207 00:09:08,860 --> 00:09:10,000 It's a good thing 208 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:10,340 that the 209 00:09:10,340 --> 00:09:11,420 parents give 210 00:09:11,420 --> 00:09:13,060 their children money. 211 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:14,540 But again, 212 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:20,260 when we first worked, there were a lot of people in my role. 213 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:22,260 Breadwinner. 214 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:32,560 So it's weird for them that I, although I give to my parents, they give me Christmas gifts, my birthday. 215 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,720 They're like, "Huh? You're giving me a gift?" 216 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:36,700 Something like that. 217 00:09:37,300 --> 00:09:39,380 Breadwinner is so romanticized here. 218 00:09:41,860 --> 00:09:44,120 I was also taken by my dad before. 219 00:09:44,460 --> 00:09:45,540 But it 220 00:09:45,540 --> 00:09:45,960 was on the way. 221 00:09:47,060 --> 00:09:48,400 My dad was also working here. 222 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:49,540 He didn't put 223 00:09:49,540 --> 00:09:52,060 extra effort to take me. 224 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:53,720 Our 225 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:54,920 fathers were still in the traffic. 226 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:57,860 There's a sticker. 227 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,800 White planes 228 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:00,600 and you're outside. 229 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:02,480 You're 230 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:02,860 in Corinthians. 231 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,160 The whole Ortigas 232 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,320 extension. - You passed it. 233 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,260 There's nothing. - Yeah. 234 00:10:10,060 --> 00:10:10,380 It's still a favor. 235 00:10:10,990 --> 00:10:12,540 We're grateful to our fathers. 236 00:10:12,850 --> 00:10:14,440 Thank you for joining us. 237 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:16,980 But 238 00:10:16,980 --> 00:10:18,460 yeah, it's like... 239 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:24,520 Some of them offered their parents that they'll be their allowance. 240 00:10:25,980 --> 00:10:26,540 Yeah. - For 241 00:10:26,540 --> 00:10:27,100 all of you. 242 00:10:27,460 --> 00:10:28,080 It's 243 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:28,980 hard. - It's like, go. 244 00:10:29,330 --> 00:10:33,420 But yeah, you have to think of yourself. 245 00:10:33,700 --> 00:10:38,480 Because if your goal eventually fell, how will you save it? 246 00:10:40,020 --> 00:10:42,180 And it's not selfish. 247 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:44,080 If 248 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:49,820 you fix yourself first, if you're okay, you'll be more 249 00:10:49,820 --> 00:10:50,640 helpful. 250 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:51,720 You'll be more helpful. 251 00:10:51,950 --> 00:10:52,380 Your capacity 252 00:10:52,380 --> 00:10:55,740 to help in the future is bigger. 253 00:10:56,110 --> 00:11:04,440 But if you don't do that, if you don't have anything left, You're impairing the possibility 254 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,320 that 255 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:07,720 you'll give a bigger amount. 256 00:11:08,660 --> 00:11:11,960 And I told you that even your needs are not covered. 257 00:11:13,260 --> 00:11:13,540 So 258 00:11:13,540 --> 00:11:15,320 it's more dangerous, right? 259 00:11:15,580 --> 00:11:16,600 What if something happens to you? 260 00:11:17,020 --> 00:11:21,600 Especially if you're not able to manage the money you're giving. 261 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,040 Yeah, the expenses. 262 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:24,280 We 263 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,360 know this, right? 264 00:11:26,330 --> 00:11:28,060 For example, your father is drunk. 265 00:11:29,550 --> 00:11:30,060 He's drinking. 266 00:11:30,460 --> 00:11:30,860 They were beaten, 267 00:11:31,060 --> 00:11:32,180 they were beaten, they were beaten. 268 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:32,420 Oh my. 269 00:11:33,740 --> 00:11:34,200 Oh my. 270 00:11:34,860 --> 00:11:35,900 We've watched it before. 271 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:39,300 Marsh! 272 00:11:42,020 --> 00:11:42,880 We both laughed. 273 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,240 I 274 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,780 was beaten hard. 275 00:11:47,340 --> 00:11:47,600 But... 276 00:11:50,260 --> 00:11:51,380 We've watched it before. 277 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,780 The gaming themed one on Netflix. 278 00:11:57,290 --> 00:11:57,720 Ah, that. 279 00:11:58,540 --> 00:11:59,640 It's Luisa Andalio. 280 00:12:00,430 --> 00:12:01,020 She's Andalio, 281 00:12:01,230 --> 00:12:01,420 right? 282 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:02,220 I don't know. 283 00:12:02,490 --> 00:12:03,140 She's Luisa. 284 00:12:04,980 --> 00:12:06,840 She's one of those... 285 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:08,300 She's an e-gamer. 286 00:12:08,620 --> 00:12:10,440 She's with Corin... 287 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,220 Is her name Corin? 288 00:12:14,260 --> 00:12:15,040 Corin Garcia. 289 00:12:15,630 --> 00:12:16,360 Oh my God. 290 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,020 Corin Galsia. 291 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:19,620 You're Korean. 292 00:12:22,260 --> 00:12:22,980 Reverse Korean. 293 00:12:24,020 --> 00:12:25,540 So, she's here. 294 00:12:26,540 --> 00:12:32,680 He was also seen there. He was working. He needed his money. He gave it to his parents. 295 00:12:33,230 --> 00:12:34,160 I mean, he was just his mother. 296 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,840 Then, his mother was being abused. 297 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:40,000 She 298 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:40,420 was being drunk. 299 00:12:41,460 --> 00:12:45,860 Then, when he was getting older, He was being abused. 300 00:12:46,300 --> 00:12:47,400 He was being abused even now. 301 00:12:48,700 --> 00:12:54,519 So, that's how it is. He's like the representative of... 302 00:12:54,540 --> 00:12:56,340 We heard that saying, "When 303 00:12:56,340 --> 00:12:56,600 you're 304 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,540 a kid, we'll give you everything you want." That's 305 00:12:59,540 --> 00:13:06,920 right. It's a common theme because that's the reflection of our society. 306 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:07,360 True. 307 00:13:07,590 --> 00:13:07,780 At 308 00:13:07,780 --> 00:13:09,220 least in normal society. 309 00:13:09,590 --> 00:13:11,840 It's okay when it's on TV. 310 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:21,240 The problem is, last time, his parents realized that he was wrong. 311 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:22,800 That's the 312 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:23,600 untrue. 313 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:24,420 He returned the money. 314 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:25,740 He 315 00:13:25,740 --> 00:13:26,540 returned the money. 316 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,620 He said, "This is yours. We can do this." Wow. It didn't happen. 317 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,080 It's true. 318 00:13:34,940 --> 00:13:35,440 This is a movie with no story. 319 00:13:36,660 --> 00:13:37,100 Fiction. 320 00:13:38,660 --> 00:13:39,000 But we 321 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:39,600 enjoyed the movie. 322 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:41,860 It's a happy surprise. 323 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,040 Except for that part. 324 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,260 Not really. 325 00:13:47,740 --> 00:13:48,720 Not really. 326 00:13:49,710 --> 00:13:50,680 I don't know. 327 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:51,640 Your mom suddenly got 328 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:51,880 drunk. 329 00:13:53,150 --> 00:13:53,340 "Oh, 330 00:13:53,380 --> 00:13:55,060 she's gay, sure, sure." 331 00:13:56,700 --> 00:14:04,320 And the worst, actually for me, we know that their parents' debt, 332 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,980 they ended up paying it. 333 00:14:06,779 --> 00:14:09,580 They just wrote it down, they didn't tell them. 334 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,920 Until it was too late, they were the ones who paid. 335 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,220 Then they 336 00:14:14,220 --> 00:14:16,820 just said, "Oh, by the way, your parents already have debt." 337 00:14:17,230 --> 00:14:20,680 It's like, "Oh, it's just a obligation." And 338 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,960 they called each other "brothers" and I was like, "What are you talking about?" 339 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,800 There was no remorse. 340 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:27,780 He was proud. 341 00:14:28,980 --> 00:14:33,080 We had a loan because I had to pay for everything. 342 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,560 It was so embarrassing. 343 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:42,200 It was like they were ashamed of one of their siblings. 344 00:14:43,420 --> 00:14:43,560 Because 345 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:48,140 I forgot, he was working in the hospital. 346 00:14:49,300 --> 00:14:50,700 -Yes, he was a doctor. 347 00:14:51,020 --> 00:14:54,260 -Yes, and of course, they have debts. 348 00:14:55,380 --> 00:14:57,180 -Oh, they gave him his salary. 349 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,160 -So, of course, he has a little bit of shame. 350 00:15:02,580 --> 00:15:04,140 -And I think they don't have a choice. 351 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:04,660 -Yeah, 352 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:05,760 they don't have a choice. 353 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,180 I just gave them a loan. 354 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,140 -And it's huge. It's like a credit card. 355 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,480 But if they're like, "I'm not the one who's there." I'll 356 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,080 just say, "Whatever, 357 00:15:17,260 --> 00:15:20,280 I'll leave." That's how tough I am. 358 00:15:21,620 --> 00:15:21,960 But 359 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:22,460 it's unfair. 360 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:23,880 But we're unfair. 361 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,420 You're not solid in the decision. 362 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,620 That's why all of them are siblings. 363 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,500 They don't tell you how much they earn. 364 00:15:30,180 --> 00:15:31,340 Because they're just... 365 00:15:31,340 --> 00:15:31,420 That's 366 00:15:31,420 --> 00:15:32,440 the most annoying part. 367 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,540 You're not included in the decision, but you're included in the... 368 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,180 You're not included in the decision, you're not included in the fun. 369 00:15:37,820 --> 00:15:39,200 But you're included in the consequences. 370 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:40,960 No, you're not included 371 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:46,100 in There's a problem that we need to solve as a family. 372 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,640 "What the hell? You decided to not join us!" 373 00:15:50,020 --> 00:15:54,060 "Pam, I just found out that we have this kind of thing." 374 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,560 "You suddenly have a problem with everything." 375 00:15:57,900 --> 00:16:02,420 And then there are also things that we also learned from our families. 376 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,700 Not just from our families, but from our relatives. 377 00:16:06,140 --> 00:16:15,260 We have some relatives who explicitly go out of the country so 378 00:16:15,260 --> 00:16:16,400 that 379 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:17,380 their parents won't be able to control them. 380 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:18,560 Yeah, so 381 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,700 that's it. It's not about money, guys. 382 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:21,960 Yeah, because they have money. 383 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,240 Their careers are okay here. 384 00:16:25,140 --> 00:16:25,500 They're okay. 385 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:33,240 Their parents don't have money, but they have control over their 386 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:33,480 lives. 387 00:16:35,260 --> 00:16:37,700 Because first of all, they live in the house. 388 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:38,780 They don't want to be sent away. 389 00:16:39,380 --> 00:16:39,500 And 390 00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:42,520 second, if they want to leave, they don't want to let them. 391 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,360 It's funny, when you're leaving, why do you have to say goodbye? 392 00:16:48,540 --> 00:16:53,360 Why do they have that kind of control over them? 393 00:16:54,140 --> 00:16:56,700 That you can't leave until 394 00:16:56,700 --> 00:16:59,999 we... 395 00:17:00,020 --> 00:17:01,580 We're getting married soon. There are 396 00:17:01,580 --> 00:17:03,160 still 397 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:03,860 power struggles. 398 00:17:04,439 --> 00:17:04,660 Yeah, 399 00:17:04,860 --> 00:17:12,780 that's hard. But I can't say I'm a rebel. 400 00:17:18,020 --> 00:17:18,480 But... 401 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:53,500 Did your And what we hear people say is, "You're going to be fired." 402 00:17:54,020 --> 00:17:57,300 And why do you have to leave? We're okay here at home. 403 00:17:58,120 --> 00:17:58,640 It's 404 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,700 still a level 1 thing. But the things like, "You're going to be 405 00:18:01,700 --> 00:18:02,200 fired." "You're going to be fired." 406 00:18:03,970 --> 00:18:04,940 Those kind of things. 407 00:18:05,980 --> 00:18:07,400 You're not going to be recognized as a child 408 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:07,660 anymore. 409 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,680 You don't want to be part of this family anymore. 410 00:18:10,630 --> 00:18:12,040 It's like an emotional hostage. 411 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:13,300 True. 412 00:18:14,020 --> 00:18:25,640 Then, when they left, they said, "We will give you the money, don't leave." But it's not 413 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,100 about money. 414 00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:27,900 It's not about 415 00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:29,680 money. So it continued. 416 00:18:30,180 --> 00:18:30,740 It 417 00:18:30,740 --> 00:18:31,140 continued. 418 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:32,060 One 419 00:18:32,060 --> 00:18:36,940 of our acquaintances gave his address to his parents abroad. 420 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,060 It's like you're trying to get in the 421 00:18:40,060 --> 00:18:43,240 grip of your parents. 422 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,860 And I think until now, their parents don't understand 423 00:18:45,860 --> 00:18:47,660 why they did that. 424 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,160 They feel offended about it. 425 00:18:50,460 --> 00:18:50,900 That's right. 426 00:18:51,780 --> 00:18:58,800 That's right. They don't trust enough to decide for yourself what to do with your life. 427 00:18:59,160 --> 00:18:59,700 That's 428 00:18:59,700 --> 00:19:00,700 why you need to say goodbye. 429 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,860 It's like before you move to another job, you need to say goodbye. 430 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:06,000 Because that's what they 431 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:06,640 told me. 432 00:19:06,900 --> 00:19:07,700 They 433 00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:11,760 told me that I don't include them when I decide. 434 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,560 I decided before I say it. 435 00:19:16,460 --> 00:19:19,480 And I decided to make it. 436 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:20,540 Right? 437 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,540 Why would I consider that? 438 00:19:25,220 --> 00:19:25,780 That's my career. 439 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,260 Even if I want to study, I'm the one who makes myself study. 440 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:33,240 I was angry back then. 441 00:19:34,660 --> 00:19:35,140 Why? 442 00:19:36,180 --> 00:19:37,400 You're offended that you're the one who's talking. 443 00:19:38,140 --> 00:19:39,160 I'm so blind. 444 00:19:41,260 --> 00:19:43,460 That's what I laugh about. 445 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,440 Our actions. 446 00:19:45,860 --> 00:19:49,200 When I decided, I didn't think that I'll be a bad rep to my parents. 447 00:19:49,860 --> 00:19:53,380 I'll study in MS. I'll study myself. 448 00:19:55,380 --> 00:19:56,080 For them to be angry. 449 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:03,440 You're not being selfish but I didn;t decide with the intention to spite my parents. 450 00:20:04,140 --> 00:20:05,060 What's 451 00:20:05,060 --> 00:20:07,900 wrong with studying? What's wrong with shifting careers? 452 00:20:10,059 --> 00:20:14,660 I didn't feel like I could last in that career. 453 00:20:15,030 --> 00:20:15,300 So I moved. 454 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,520 They asked, "Why did you move? We haven't talked to each other." I was like, "Why?" 455 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,020 Why were you with them? 456 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:21,740 Why? 457 00:20:22,740 --> 00:20:23,260 Right? 458 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:24,000 Why? 459 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:25,660 I don't know. 460 00:20:27,180 --> 00:20:30,220 I said, "I'm only 30. I'll get a 461 00:20:30,220 --> 00:20:36,480 job." That's why I became motivated to be 462 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,100 independent 463 00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:41,380 financially. 464 00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:47,780 Because if you have anything that you need from your parents, they'll give it back to you. 465 00:20:48,850 --> 00:20:50,500 In some way or form. 466 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:51,440 First of all, in the worship service. 467 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,700 Yes, in the worship service. 468 00:20:53,710 --> 00:20:54,900 In the worship service and in control. 469 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:03,640 That's why I said that when I was already working, I didn't ask for help financially. 470 00:21:04,839 --> 00:21:07,520 Aside from living in their house, 471 00:21:07,860 --> 00:21:08,860 using their 472 00:21:08,860 --> 00:21:09,540 car, etc. 473 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,660 I didn't ask for 474 00:21:11,660 --> 00:21:13,580 money. 475 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,860 -When I was already a graduate, I didn't ask for money. 476 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,400 -Because I don't want to end 477 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,780 my 478 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:20,780 career. 479 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:26,380 Because I'm already working. I need to build on myself that I depend on myself. 480 00:21:27,460 --> 00:21:29,020 That's my only point and I'm offended. 481 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,840 And what I often tell them when they 482 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,020 say that they might have 483 00:21:36,020 --> 00:21:37,100 a future, "That's up to 484 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:39,080 you." Me too. I'm okay with that. 485 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,200 "I'm okay with that. I'm working. 486 00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:44,899 I'm building my career so you don't have to worry about that." 487 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:45,240 If you 488 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:51,220 really want to give, go. But you don't have to do that to 489 00:21:51,220 --> 00:21:52,840 me. You've already done your part. 490 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,820 I want to tell my siblings to remove me from the divisor. 491 00:21:55,260 --> 00:21:55,460 That's right. 492 00:21:55,780 --> 00:21:57,760 But apparently, estate planning is not allowed. 493 00:21:58,540 --> 00:21:58,660 You have to. 494 00:21:59,340 --> 00:21:59,760 You have to split it. 495 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:00,440 I 496 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,960 think you can waive it. 497 00:22:04,060 --> 00:22:05,240 And if 498 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,940 you have a written agreement, it's okay. 499 00:22:07,060 --> 00:22:08,640 We can talk to your siblings about it. 500 00:22:08,820 --> 00:22:09,120 Yes. 501 00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:10,380 If ever there's 502 00:22:10,380 --> 00:22:10,380 a problem. 503 00:22:11,060 --> 00:22:17,920 If there's any, I'll say, "You should spend it now." -It's up to you. -It's up to you. Enjoy 504 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:18,380 it. 505 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,720 I mean, you raised us well. 506 00:22:24,300 --> 00:22:24,880 Even though we were 507 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,780 like 508 00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:27,560 brothers and sisters. 509 00:22:28,150 --> 00:22:31,140 But it was fine. We were self-sustaining. 510 00:22:32,350 --> 00:22:32,700 We know 511 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:35,920 that it's a bit overboard. 512 00:22:37,260 --> 00:22:40,180 We don't get addicted to drugs. It's not like that. 513 00:22:40,740 --> 00:22:41,920 -He drinks. 514 00:23:10,740 --> 00:23:11,300 No. 515 00:23:12,340 --> 00:23:12,440 So, 516 00:23:12,540 --> 00:23:13,140 it's not really there. 517 00:23:13,140 --> 00:23:14,200 He can't even buy a new item. 518 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:15,440 It's not really there. 519 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,060 If he 520 00:23:16,060 --> 00:23:19,120 doesn't have a heatstroke, he can't air-con the TV. 521 00:23:20,379 --> 00:23:23,440 He'll have to press the appliance. It's really long. 522 00:23:24,180 --> 00:23:24,600 Which is okay. 523 00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:26,760 You threw it already. It'll still resurrect. 524 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:28,880 It'll come back. 525 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:29,880 It's still here. 526 00:23:30,380 --> 00:23:30,780 It'll resurrect. 527 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,240 It's like a mold. 528 00:23:33,399 --> 00:23:35,500 Sometimes, Rem throws it in our house. 529 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:36,960 Yes. 530 00:23:38,180 --> 00:23:39,440 Because it comes back. 531 00:23:39,740 --> 00:23:41,560 -Why? -Your brother 532 00:23:41,560 --> 00:24:10,100 is saying, They were so... 533 00:24:14,419 --> 00:24:19,580 It was not minimalistic because it was minimalistic in a way. 534 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:20,780 It was 535 00:24:20,780 --> 00:24:21,620 inadequate. 536 00:24:22,940 --> 00:24:24,360 -The things you said were inadequate. -Yes, inadequate. 537 00:24:26,339 --> 00:24:29,040 Our parents' generation really hoard even 538 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,720 the topperware. 539 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,300 The oil is not even clean. 540 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,800 You can't even understand the smell. They don't want to throw it away. 541 00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:43,080 I thought we were wearing topperware. 542 00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:44,340 I just called it topperware. 543 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:45,280 What are those? 544 00:24:45,410 --> 00:24:45,760 The ones that you take 545 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:46,660 out? 546 00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:47,440 Yeah, those. 547 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,400 We rarely wear topperware because it's expensive. 548 00:24:52,220 --> 00:24:52,860 Usually, it's a gift. 549 00:24:53,340 --> 00:24:55,000 What is that tag here? 550 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,600 It's like a status symbol. 551 00:24:57,420 --> 00:24:57,860 Wow! 552 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,460 It's dangerous. I might get bitten. 553 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:03,400 You know the old 554 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,520 Tupperware, the three of them? 555 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:06,460 The 556 00:25:06,460 --> 00:25:09,280 coffee, sugar, and 557 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,140 creamer. 558 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:11,720 Actually, it's 559 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:11,720 not. 560 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,560 It depends on the milk, not the 561 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:15,060 creamer. 562 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,820 It was so... "Wow, you have that?" It was displayed 563 00:25:19,820 --> 00:25:21,480 on the table. 564 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,280 My gosh. 565 00:25:23,380 --> 00:25:23,940 It's so funny. 566 00:25:24,540 --> 00:25:25,780 But it's like... 567 00:25:26,460 --> 00:25:30,400 You know, our generation is minimalist. 568 00:25:31,180 --> 00:25:34,620 Because we grew up with clutter. 569 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,220 So it's all in its own way. 570 00:25:40,740 --> 00:25:45,980 Well anyway, we've reached the end of our episode. 571 00:25:46,860 --> 00:25:47,220 So... 572 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:48,840 What do we say? 573 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,760 So if you 574 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,120 have plans to be independent, Just 575 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:54,300 cry. 576 00:25:55,060 --> 00:25:55,780 It's 577 00:25:55,780 --> 00:25:56,000 hard. 578 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,140 Equip yourself. 579 00:26:00,980 --> 00:26:09,760 It's not that you're being selfish but at the end of the day, you're the one who's helping you. 580 00:26:11,620 --> 00:26:16,800 And when you're like that, your parents will be there to support you. 581 00:26:17,539 --> 00:26:19,260 You need to be strong inside. 582 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,460 You know, after a while, it's because you're being supported that it doesn't have an effect. 583 00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:24,560 That's why I'm used to it. 584 00:26:25,060 --> 00:26:25,720 You're immune. 585 00:26:25,740 --> 00:26:27,340 I was only 16. 586 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:28,820 I was so shocked. 587 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:37,460 But you know, now that I'm sending messages 588 00:26:37,460 --> 00:26:40,720 that are painful... 589 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,760 You can compute. When we got married, 590 00:26:43,060 --> 00:26:45,220 5 591 00:26:45,220 --> 00:26:46,860 years ago, he was 36. 592 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,360 His 593 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:50,660 parents still messaged me. 594 00:26:52,740 --> 00:26:56,160 I mean, now, I'm just laughing because they'll tell me. 595 00:26:58,340 --> 00:27:01,860 Sometimes, I post on Facebook, they think it's about them. 596 00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,500 This is a podcast, of course, it's about them. 597 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:05,460 We're really fighting. 598 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:06,720 But 599 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,960 it's more of storytelling. 600 00:27:08,740 --> 00:27:09,000 Again, 601 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,400 the intention is not to spite 602 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,620 or cause hate 603 00:27:14,620 --> 00:27:15,380 to your parents. 604 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,340 You're just sharing your experience. 605 00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:19,980 "Oh, what happened?" And it's 606 00:27:19,980 --> 00:27:25,760 valid that our parents' feelings are valid but it's up to you to manage your feelings. 607 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,420 Indicover them. 608 00:27:27,860 --> 00:27:28,400 How 609 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,040 you 610 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,340 process your feelings. 611 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,840 It's... right? 612 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,100 Maybe 613 00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:36,600 we're okay with 614 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,240 people not 615 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:37,840 stealing 616 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,320 from the government. 617 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,840 Guys, it's election time. I hope I can upload this before the election. 618 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:46,660 It's a bit doubtful. 619 00:27:49,140 --> 00:27:52,100 But we're good people. We try to be 620 00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:52,620 as kind 621 00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:53,520 to other people. 622 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,380 So we're okay. 623 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,520 Whatever their beliefs are, I know what I am. 624 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,520 So I know what they're saying. 625 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,840 You know what they're saying. 626 00:28:03,410 --> 00:28:03,580 What 627 00:28:03,580 --> 00:28:05,080 they're saying about me. 628 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,560 That's what they're seeing. 629 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,840 It's like your feelings. 630 00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:12,100 Okay, 631 00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:12,440 okay. 632 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:15,240 I'll reply to what they're saying. 633 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,160 For example, "Ma, do you want a cellphone? I have an extra one here." 634 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,220 Love you, son. 635 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,740 It's like that. Love you. 636 00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:22,940 It's like that. 637 00:28:22,940 --> 00:28:23,480 It dissipates. 638 00:28:23,860 --> 00:28:28,020 I think that's the only way they can express their feelings. 639 00:28:29,060 --> 00:28:30,520 They're not like a podcast. 640 00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:32,180 That's right. 641 00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:37,560 And also, in their time, they didn't talk about it. 642 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:37,720 They didn't 643 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,200 talk about how to 644 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,140 have some sort of outlet. 645 00:28:42,460 --> 00:28:44,220 How to manage your 646 00:28:44,220 --> 00:28:45,220 emotions. 647 00:28:45,780 --> 00:28:46,120 We're 648 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,640 more aware of that. 649 00:28:47,940 --> 00:28:48,540 Also, 650 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,720 while we're doing this podcast, we're able to express ourselves. 651 00:28:51,380 --> 00:28:55,220 So, this is the end of the episode. 652 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,180 I'm glad you're still here. 653 00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,980 Thank you and... 654 00:28:59,980 --> 00:29:00,300 We're heart-hearted. 655 00:29:00,860 --> 00:29:01,680 Heart-hearted. 656 00:29:02,290 --> 00:29:02,700 That's what it is. 657 00:29:03,380 --> 00:29:04,140 It's Valentine's Day. 658 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,400 It's our Valentine's Day. 659 00:29:05,530 --> 00:29:06,440 We're not going to tell you 660 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,480 when we're going to post this. 661 00:29:07,820 --> 00:29:08,420 Thank 662 00:29:08,420 --> 00:29:11,280 you for listening and see you next episode. 663 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,060 Bye! 664 00:29:12,590 --> 00:29:12,900 Bye-bye! 665 00:29:15,090 --> 00:29:16,900 You were listening to The Dinkwap Show.