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I appreciate you being here this morning.

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We're going

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book by book, chapter

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by chapter, verse by verse,
through God's word.

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And I want to,

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communicate the big idea for this morning.

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I just want you to maybe write this down
or remember it.

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That,

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that God's ordering is not oppression.

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It's orchestration.

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I want to remember that God's

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ordering is not oppression.

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It's orchestration.

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It's important for us to remember that
as we go through, especially chapter two,

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the point of Paul's writing

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in first and second Timothy and Titus

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is to guard

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doctrine and guide people into it.

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And so this morning,
as we do every morning,

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my aim and goal is to teach doctrine,
to guard it

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and to guide our church into it.

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Teaching doctrine is very important.

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Because if one

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adds to the Bible, that's legalism.

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If one subtracts from the Bible,
that's liberalism.

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And if one ignores portions of the Bible
that leads to heresy,

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because you just fill in the blanks
of what's been ignored.

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And so chapter one was through Paul.

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God's word to the church.

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And two of the important things that Paul

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says, that the church's role is,

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is grace

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and doctrine.

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He says, I'm
the chief, first of all, sinners.

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And God's
grace overflowed, overwhelmed me.

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Grace is supposed to be part
of the church and doctrine.

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He says, guard doctrine.

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Don't let bad doctrine be taught.

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Teach good doctrine.

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And in chapter two,
he changes a little bit and starts

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talking to the Christian rather
than the church and to the Christian.

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He says there's a couple things that are
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and it's prayer

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and what living

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a life of devotion looks like.

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And that's what we're going to look at in
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The reason Paul wrote what he wrote.

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He tells us
why in first Timothy chapter three, verses

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15, 14 and 15
he says, I hope to come to you soon.

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Timothy was in Ephesus.

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Paul started a church there.

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Left Timothy in charge to lead it.

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Young man Paul, in his early 30s.

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And he said, I hope to come to you soon,
but I'm writing these things to you

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so that here's the reason.

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If I delay,
you may know how one ought to behave

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in the household of God,
which is the church of the living God.

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A pillar, a buttress of truth.

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He says,
I want to be there with you, Timothy, but

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in case I can't, I want you to understand

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how the people in the church
are to live according to sound doctrine.

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So? So

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this is the letter written to people
in the church about how they live,

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what they do, how they orchestrate life
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And so it's important

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to look at this, at that, this through,
through those eyes.

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Chapter one doctrine is important because

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if we're not solid on doctrine,

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we'll settle for what
tickles our ears or satisfies our peers.

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Like, if we're not solid on
biblical doctrine, we'll end up being

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what sounds good to me.

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I don't know, everyone else thinks so too.

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So why not go with it?

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That's a really dangerous place to live.

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And because doctrine is important.

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I've written a little book called
The Essentials of Christian Doctrine.

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It's in the Welcome center.
You're welcome to pick one up.

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It's free for you.

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I want you to to be aware of some real
basics of Christian theology and doctrine.

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So we're clear on it.

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Because what I know,
and you know this, too.

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What did Jesus come to believe directly
shapes how that Jesus community will live?

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What you and I believe will shape
how we live,

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what the church believes to shapes
how the church lives functions.

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And so we have to be clear on doctrine.

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Chapter two is one of the

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most contested passages in Scripture
in the New Testament, at least.

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And so my goal in going through this
this morning is to rightly divide

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the Word of God
so that we understand God's

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standard of it and invite us

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to live according to the doctrine

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that is taught in God's Word.

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Remember last week I said

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that we rest under Scripture.

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We don't stand over it.

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And so my goal and my job
every Sunday is to teach doctrine

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and invite us to rest under it

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and not assume we have the authority

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to stand over it.

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And that's
what we're going to do this morning.

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In order to do this.

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You follow along,
Tom, in order to do this.

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I need to set it up with Genesis
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The way things started has a

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determining factor in how we understand
the way things should be.

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And so before we get into first
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I want to set up back in Genesis

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and God's design.

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God designed maleness and femaleness.

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And those things are to take primary shape

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in the context of a marriage and a family.

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Now our culture is very different
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and that's why doctrine is important,

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because we need to be clear on doctrine,

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because the culture
is going to get this very confused.

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And we know that confusion in the culture

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should not cause confusion in the church.

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Right?

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And the only way the confused culture
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cause confusion in the church
is to be solid on doctrine.

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So role of the church,
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Our standard is God's word.

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Now to set this up going way back

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when a boy grows up in a home.

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God's design.

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No culture screwed this up, no doubt,

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but God's design is that boy

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lives under the submit to the leadership
into the authority of his father.

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That's God's design.

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When that boy grows up and marries,
he leaves his father and mother.

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In Scripture and establish his own family

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and becomes the leader of that family.

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she's to submit to the leadership
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and when she gets married, she transfers

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that to her husband.

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this is not about women

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simply obeying someone
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This has nothing to do
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has nothing to do with the women's role
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This has to do with the role of the home
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It's not about the woman saying, because
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It's not about that at all.

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It's about God's design
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not about a strict obedience.

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Because someone's a male
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You understand that? It's about design.

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Original design
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Submission has been gravely misunderstood

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because we've not understood
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stemming from the Genesis account.

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In the Genesis account, when Adam and Eve
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The devil shows up on the scene
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and tempts Eve with bad doctrine.

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That was the temptation.

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The bad doctrine that the devil tempted
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his standard, his love, and his design,

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and beginning with Eve, forces

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that choice on all humans to doubt

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good doctrine and believe bad doctrine
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His standard, his design, his provision

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from Genesis three on due to sin.

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God's
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and it's led to consequences for men
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due to sin
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The consequences
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Either one

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passive leadership,

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both in the family
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We've we've just become passive

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as far as family leadership

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and child rearing and discipline

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and passive spiritual leadership.

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Looks like women do everything or.

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in this this this role of men
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domineering, demanding and abusive.

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that men have to be very careful of
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Now the consequences for women
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Bothered by this idea

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of submission to the authority over them.

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The tendency is to tend toward

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complete self-sufficiency and autonomy.

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Now, let me just clarify.

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I got to do a lot of clarifying today.

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There is nothing wrong
and nothing bad with a strong,

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independent,
intelligent leader as a woman.

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I married one.

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Now nothing wrong with that.

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Ladies, please understand.

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The danger is
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means submitting to no one.

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That's the danger.

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And so.

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The gospel comes in and sets things right.

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Everything in Scripture points to Jesus.

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When we go through the Old Testament
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We went through the book of Genesis,
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Access on Wednesday night.

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We see Jesus all over the Old Testament

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because the Old Testament points towards
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The Gospels are about Jesus.

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The rest of the New Testament points
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So it's all about Jesus.

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this submission thing
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Jesus, though equal with the father,
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not because there was an issue
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but just simply because of honoring
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You understand Jesus fully.

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God submitted to the father not because
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but because there
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when we submit because

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we don't stand over Scripture,
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When we submit, what we're doing
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a picture of Jesus to the world.

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You understand?

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So obedience
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It's about order and presenting the order

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of God to the world that's watching.

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So that when Paul says in Ephesians two,
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wives, submit to your husbands
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I know the pushback that some women have.

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Well, I would, if I had a husband
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right now.

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Remember, we won't say that
in this company, but that right.

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And that's why Paul says, submit not
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Submit as to Christ,
because Christ is worthy of it.

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Because you become a

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picture of Christ to the world.

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This is why doctrine is important.

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Chapter one

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directions
to the church Biblical doctrine and Grace.

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Chapter two
the devotion of the Christian Prayer

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and ordering.

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Let me just read verses one through six

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will unpack some stuff.

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Chapter two, verse one.

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First of all,
then I urge that supplications, prayers,

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intercessions, and thanksgiving be made,

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for all people, for kings
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that we may lead a peaceful and quiet
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This is good, and it is pleasing
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who desires all people to be saved
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For there is one God, and there is one
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the man
Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom

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for all, which is the testimony
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Paul says, for the devoted Christian
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the first thing of first importance
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to pray supplications and prayers,

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to pray, intercessions and thanksgiving.

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He says, I want you to be a church
and a devoted

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people of Jesus that prays
when he says the word.

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Intercessions, that means a communication
with intimate language,

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as if you're talking to your closest
friend.

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It's familiar.

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So I want you to pray as though
you're talking to your closest friend.

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This intimate setting.

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It's not some high holy, reserved,

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you know, mantra.

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It's this intercession, this intimacy,

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this closeness and thanksgiving.

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One should never pray
without giving thanks.

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To pray without giving
thanks teeters on this idea

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that the one you're talking to
is a resource, not a relationship.

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Thanksgiving makes it a relationship.

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And so he says, I want you
to pray this way for all people.

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And then he specifies for kings and all
who are in high positions, presidents,

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senators as
what are you talking about, Congressman?

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Governors,

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people in high positions.

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He said, I want you to pray for them.

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Intercede for them.

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Give thanks for them,

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It's so interesting to me

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that the one who wrote this
is saying to pray for all these people.

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And the ruler at the time was Caesar Nero,

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the one who was one of the most violent,

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abusive, repulsive emperors

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in all of Rome against the church,
the one who would behead Paul.

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Paul is saying,
Plead to God on his behalf.

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Not that God removes him,
but that he is blessed with wisdom,

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that that he makes wise decisions,
that he comes to faith

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and pray that their decisions
allow us, as Paul says, to lead peaceful,

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quiet lives, godly
lives, dignified in every way.

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Listen, I want our leaders.

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I want the best things for them

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because as things go well for them,
they usually go well for us.

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It's so interesting to me how

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the church navigated
the past few presidencies,

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because the church has not done a good job

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on seeking intercession for Joe Biden.

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When he was at office,

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we saw intercession,
most of us, for him to leave.

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But but not

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not for wisdom, not for discernment.

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Not because we cared about him.

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Same thing with Trump. It's
so interesting.

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These last couple election cycles,

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the church has just
become more divided than ever

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because we focused

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on the man in the office
rather than the kingdom of God.

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He says,
I want you to be praying for these people

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and honestly be praying for them.

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One Because God desires
all people to be saved

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and to come to a knowledge of the truth,
because there's one God and one mediator,

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the man
Jesus Christ. This is the point of it all

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for their salvation,

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because their salvation is for your good.

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I could spend a lot more time talking.

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I'm not going to
because there's a lot in here.

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We got to get through them.
Let me go to verse.

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Where am I verse seven.

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Now look what he says.

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Verse seven,

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for this
I was appointed a preacher and an apostle.

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I'm telling the truth. I'm not lying.

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A teacher of the Gentiles
in faith and truth.

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These are important words
to pay attention to,

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because some of these words are going
to come up later in his instructions

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to the church
and to the disciples of the church.

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He said, God has appointed me
to be a preacher and a teacher.

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Here's what we have to understand.

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Those two words are different.

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Most of the time in our context.

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Those are synonymous.

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We just think every preacher is a teacher,
every teacher in the church, a preacher.

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And are you a preacher, teacher
or whatever? Doesn't matter.

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Paul uses two very different words
to talk about what it is to be a preacher,

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what is to be a teacher.

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And when he says, God
has appointed me as a teacher.

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The Greek word is crux,
and it literally means ambassador.

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It means a herald of God's truth,
of salvation

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to proclaim salvation to the unsaved.

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And it's what we do in Matthew 28.

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Proclaim to all the world.

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That's what it is to preach.

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Preaching is the the work
that's done to the unsaved

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of the proclamation of salvation
through Christ alone.

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That's what preaching is.

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And then he says, I am also a teacher.

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Teach us a completely different word.

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The word Paul uses a dinosaur. Go.

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And it literally means doctrine.

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And so a teacher teaches

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the saved the doctrine of God.

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Biblical doctrine to the saved,
not to the unsaved.

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Preaching to the unsaved
about the proclamation of salvation.

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The good news teaching
is doctrine to the saved.

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So they'll be firm on good doctrine,
because what they believe about

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doctrine will determine how they live.

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In acts 242.

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The Bible says of the first church
that the the disciples gave themselves,

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it says, literally gave themselves
to the apostles doctrine.

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It's the same word if teach us teaching.

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So teaching and doctrine
are the exact same word.

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And so the church's role, the pastor's
role is to teach doctrine to the church.

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Every Christ followers

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role is to preach the gospel to the world.

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And Paul says,
I have been charged with both

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some people have been gifted in preaching
and not teaching.

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Some have been gifted in teaching
and not preaching.

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Some few are gifted in both

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preaching the gospel of good news
to salvation to the unsaved

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and preaching deep, profound
biblical doctrine

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to the saved.

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And that was Paul.

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And so Paul starts

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to instruct men, instruct the church.

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And let's just look at what he says.

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I desire this is verse eight.

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I desire that in every place
the men should pray,

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lifting holy hands
without anger or quarreling.

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And so after he says, this is who I am.

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These are my roles.

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Then he starts to direct the disciples,

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man disciples and women disciples.

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And because of God's ordering,

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that goes back to Genesis one

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when he asked to direct men and women.

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Guess who he starts with?

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Men. So I'm going to start with you.

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And this way says to men.

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That in every place men should pray,

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lifting holy hands
without anger or quarreling.

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Let me just untie this a little bit.

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There's three things here.

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He says I want men to lift up holy hands,

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to lift up holy hands and pray

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to lift up holy hands.

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I know what most people are thinking.

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Well, this is he's
not really talking about doing this,

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although that's what he said.

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He's really just talking
about the attitude of the heart.

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And the reason we say that is because most
men are so uncomfortable with this.

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And so we explain it away.

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And there's part of us
that love to stand over Scripture

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rather than rest under it.

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Now, does
it mean the attitude of your heart 100%?

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It means I'm going to lift up
Holy in absolute.

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My heart is lifted up before got 100%,

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but the outward

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expression is always a reflection
of the inward heart.

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You know it is

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all through Scripture.

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The Scripture gives us examples
of how people prayed

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people.

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They stood and they looked up to heaven,
and they lifted their hand

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because their expectation
was coming from there.

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This was this was a position of prayer

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all through Scripture,
as was this, the position of prayer.

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I'm going to kneel before God.

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And and this is my
this is my way of surrender.

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If you take a knee, I'm going to rest
before you.

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As was lame prostrate.

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I don't know if the camera
and get me from here.

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But I'm gonna lay prostrate,
face down. Why?

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Because what happens when it slows down?

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What do you do? I surrender, I'm not

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right.

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And it's.

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This is the way, God,
I am laid out before you.

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I'm completely certain
the only thing that isn't taught in

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Scripture how to pray is this.

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Nowhere in Scripture
is anyone seen sitting

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and praying, closing their eyes
and folding their hands.

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Now I understand why we teach this
to our children.

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Because they're squirrels.

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But hopefully at this point in our lives,

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we're not children anymore.

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And that this is how we pray.

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And so, Paul, through the inspiration

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of the Holy Spirit from God, says, man,

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you have to take the leadership

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in worship and the expressions of worship

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because your families
will follow your lead.

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You have to take the lead
in expressive worship,

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and he doesn't mandate
what it has to look like, but it has to.

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You gotta see, it's got to be apparent.

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And so he says, lift up

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the understand.

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Like, get out of yourself.

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Quit being so self-conscious and insecure
and make it about him and not about you.

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But Paul saying, lift up holy hands.

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And by holy hands he's saying,
listen, men, your lies have got to be lies

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that are godly and humble

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and sacrificial and servant like,

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not domineering and demanding

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and dominating.

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Most of the time when women push back

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against the authority of their husband
or someone in their life, it's

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because they haven't seen men
with holy hands.

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I've seen plenty of men
try to be domineering,

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but not men with holy hands.

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And again,
when he doesn't have holy hands,

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where to submit as to

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Christ,

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because he does have holy hands.

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And then he says, lift up holy hands.

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Pray men,

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men must take the lead spiritually.

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That is our job as a husband.

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We are the priest of our family.

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There's too many men

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that have relegated
their lives to passivity, both in child

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rearing and child
disciplining and child correcting,

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and in spirituality.

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There's too many women that relegated
that.

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I would love for a month

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for the women
to stop leading in this church.

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Just stop teaching Sunday school.

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Stop the refreshment thing.

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Stop the worship leading.

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You know, I, I would love to see

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what would happen.

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When you'd like to see what would happen.

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Yeah.
All the women's heads are doing this.

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The guy's like, no, like,
why would you suggest that?

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That's heresy.

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Maybe men

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don't lead because women do it all.

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And so, ladies,
you have my permission to stop.

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Let's see how the church does.

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Men lead

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with a holy life and lead in worship.

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I said last week that abdication

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is never part of God's plan.

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Man, you hear me?

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Yeah.

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Who said yes? That was good.

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Thank thank you.

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Billy.

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So let's get to the tough stuff.

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Verse nine.

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Likewise
also that women should adorn themselves

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in respectable apparel
with modesty and self-control,

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not with braided hair and gold or pearls
or costly attire,

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but with what is proper for women
who profess godliness with good works.

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Do you know many pastors
that preach on the Sunday morning

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about first Timothy two?

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Yeah.

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Cowards is what they are.

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Here, here, here, here.

507
00:27:34,566 --> 00:27:37,866
Here's here's what, here's what, here's
what Paul saying ladies, this is

508
00:27:37,866 --> 00:27:41,066
the point is make it your clothes should
communicate your conversion.

509
00:27:42,533 --> 00:27:44,200
That's what he's saying.

510
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,100
Just make sure you're close.

511
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:46,933
Communicate your conversion.

512
00:27:46,933 --> 00:27:49,933
Parents,
please teach this to your children.

513
00:27:56,566 --> 00:27:59,566
So, junior high, high school,
college kids.

514
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,000
You know exactly what I'm talking about.

515
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,566
The problem in this culture,
and it's the same in our culture,

516
00:28:09,866 --> 00:28:13,300
is that saved people outwardly
looked exactly

517
00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:16,300
like unsaved people.

518
00:28:16,766 --> 00:28:19,766
Dressed just as provocatively.

519
00:28:20,133 --> 00:28:23,100
Just as scantily.

520
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:25,333
And Paul saying, make sure that that

521
00:28:25,333 --> 00:28:28,333
what everybody sees
communicate your conversion.

522
00:28:28,533 --> 00:28:32,500
When he says women
dressed with respectable apparel

523
00:28:32,666 --> 00:28:36,500
what is that's we get our word cosmetics
from that Greek word.

524
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,266
So he's not saying don't makeup,
don't do your hair.

525
00:28:40,266 --> 00:28:41,400
No jewelry.

526
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,100
Wear a bonnet skirt down to your knees.

527
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:45,933
Like, just become Amish and you're okay.

528
00:28:45,933 --> 00:28:48,100
That's not what he's saying.

529
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:50,600
He's just saying, do what you gotta do.

530
00:28:51,866 --> 00:28:54,166
But just make sure that what you do

531
00:28:54,166 --> 00:28:57,166
communicates that you've been converted
from the culture.

532
00:28:58,300 --> 00:28:59,833
Make sure that your outward

533
00:28:59,833 --> 00:29:03,566
appearance shows your inward conversion.

534
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,733
In other words,
spend more time on your soul than you do

535
00:29:06,733 --> 00:29:09,733
in the mirror.

536
00:29:10,766 --> 00:29:11,400
And I'm

537
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,400
so thankful for the women of Flip Side,

538
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,700
because some of you might hear me though
I'm saying this with John.

539
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:18,400
I got him.

540
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,400
This is such a dangerous message
for me to preach.

541
00:29:21,833 --> 00:29:25,033
Some of you women have been walking
with Jesus for generations,

542
00:29:26,366 --> 00:29:29,800
and you look like women who have walking
with Jesus for generations.

543
00:29:31,133 --> 00:29:34,133
You present yourself

544
00:29:34,233 --> 00:29:38,700
with modesty
and appropriateness and dignity

545
00:29:39,166 --> 00:29:42,166
and strength and honor.

546
00:29:42,633 --> 00:29:44,300
And it's not all about me.

547
00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:47,300
Look at me. Look at me.

548
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:48,833
And it's not because you're old.

549
00:29:48,833 --> 00:29:49,733
It's because you're faithful.

550
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:53,933
And many women don't get this right.

551
00:29:53,933 --> 00:29:56,000
So thank you.

552
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,233
You're a great example for those coming up

553
00:29:58,233 --> 00:30:01,233
after you.

554
00:30:01,833 --> 00:30:05,333
This is so difficult in our culture
that celebrates, idolize

555
00:30:05,333 --> 00:30:09,600
and venerates the external
and that curses and a voice

556
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,600
and denying the aging.

557
00:30:12,633 --> 00:30:15,633
Ladies, thank you for doing it so well.

558
00:30:16,466 --> 00:30:19,466
Men, we have great responsibility

559
00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:22,166
in this with the women in our lives,

560
00:30:22,166 --> 00:30:25,166
and we will either help them do this
or hinder them from this.

561
00:30:25,366 --> 00:30:28,466
By how we look at women,
by how we respond to women,

562
00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:31,900
and how we respond to our own wives
as they age.

563
00:30:33,066 --> 00:30:36,066
It's very important.

564
00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:39,900
And if that's not touch enough subject,
let me get on to the rest of this.

565
00:30:40,933 --> 00:30:43,933
And just remember that
before we get to this,

566
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:47,400
we don't stand over it, right?

567
00:30:47,933 --> 00:30:49,266
We rest under it.

568
00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:52,033
We have to understand that

569
00:30:52,033 --> 00:30:56,100
about Scripture
and that when we talk about following

570
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:59,833
Christ, it means we follow his ordering,
not just his saving.

571
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,200
Most people want to be saved by Jesus.

572
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,200
They don't want to follow his ordering.

573
00:31:06,433 --> 00:31:09,433
And so we talk about following
Jesus involves both.

574
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,133
Doctrine determines direction.

575
00:31:12,133 --> 00:31:15,333
And so we're going to look at his
directing verses 11 through 15.

576
00:31:16,366 --> 00:31:19,133
Let a woman learn quietly
with all submissiveness.

577
00:31:19,133 --> 00:31:21,100
I do not fear. Why am I preaching on this?

578
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:24,166
I do not permit a woman
to teach or exercise authority over man.

579
00:31:24,166 --> 00:31:25,733
Rather, she is to remain quiet.

580
00:31:25,733 --> 00:31:27,466
For Adam was formed first, then Eve.

581
00:31:27,466 --> 00:31:31,300
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman
was deceived and became a transgressor.

582
00:31:32,333 --> 00:31:35,500
Yet she will be saved through childbearing
if they continue in faith

583
00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:36,966
and love and holiness and self-control.

584
00:31:36,966 --> 00:31:38,566
Okay. You're ready? Yes.

585
00:31:40,133 --> 00:31:41,133
We miss.

586
00:31:41,133 --> 00:31:42,133
We miss what?

587
00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:44,866
The first thing that Paul saying
here, Paul is saying here.

588
00:31:44,866 --> 00:31:47,866
Let her learn

589
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:49,500
in that in the Roman culture,

590
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:52,800
most women were uneducated
and they had no hope of being educated.

591
00:31:52,966 --> 00:31:55,600
One of the things Paul is saying
is let them learn.

592
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,600
Now remember the context is the church.

593
00:31:58,933 --> 00:32:01,300
Let them learn.

594
00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:03,233
The context is the church setting.

595
00:32:03,233 --> 00:32:07,400
He said, let them learn at church,
but let them process

596
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,000
and talk about it at home
with a man with holy hands.

597
00:32:13,733 --> 00:32:16,733
Do you see how these tie together?

598
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,000
The issue is the same issue
with the church in Corinth,

599
00:32:20,166 --> 00:32:21,500
and the way the synagogues,

600
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:25,533
the synagogue is the closest thing
we have in the Bible to a local church.

601
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:27,533
And Imma talk about that later.

602
00:32:27,533 --> 00:32:28,666
But just understand this for now.

603
00:32:28,666 --> 00:32:31,066
The synagogue was designed
so that men sat on one side

604
00:32:31,066 --> 00:32:33,233
and women on the other,
and sometimes women

605
00:32:33,233 --> 00:32:36,233
were even behind a veil
like they weren't even seen at church.

606
00:32:36,233 --> 00:32:37,200
And what would happen

607
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,166
when the teacher of the synagogue
was teaching doctrine to the people?

608
00:32:42,266 --> 00:32:44,700
Women would have a question
because they didn't grow up

609
00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:46,800
with the background of education
at the minute,

610
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,600
and they would start talking
during the sermon.

611
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,000
Hey, what is he right about?

612
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,166
What about this?

613
00:32:51,166 --> 00:32:53,966
And Paul's saying, look,
just knock that off.

614
00:32:53,966 --> 00:32:57,700
Doctrines got to be taught
and I want you to learn.

615
00:32:58,133 --> 00:33:01,200
But all these questions go to the diner
afterwards.

616
00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:04,866
Your husband, who has holy hands, talk
that through with him.

617
00:33:05,133 --> 00:33:07,500
Talk about it in your huddles. Process it.

618
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:11,200
Process it outside of here because it gets
too chaotic in here to do it.

619
00:33:15,833 --> 00:33:18,833
He says, let them learn.

620
00:33:19,633 --> 00:33:23,600
It appears from verses
11 and 12 that the teaching function.

621
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,633
I'm not talking about the preaching,

622
00:33:24,633 --> 00:33:27,633
the communication of the gospel
to the unsaved for salvation.

623
00:33:27,733 --> 00:33:30,733
The teaching function in the church
is to be done.

624
00:33:30,933 --> 00:33:33,933
Is a is a man's responsibility.

625
00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:38,400
Hear me not do to worth
not doing a difference in worth.

626
00:33:38,733 --> 00:33:43,466
Not because of difference in dignity,
not because of a difference in value.

627
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,433
We know from Scripture that men and women,

628
00:33:47,433 --> 00:33:50,666
male and female, are made in
God's very image.

629
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,466
So this issue is not an issue
of importance.

630
00:33:55,533 --> 00:33:58,066
It's not an issue of intelligence.

631
00:33:58,066 --> 00:34:00,233
It's not an issue of gifting.

632
00:34:00,233 --> 00:34:02,233
It's not an issue of skill.

633
00:34:02,233 --> 00:34:04,533
It's not an issue of godliness.

634
00:34:04,533 --> 00:34:08,433
It's simply
an issue of the expression of God's role

635
00:34:09,633 --> 00:34:10,633
of the

636
00:34:10,633 --> 00:34:13,233
it's God's expression

637
00:34:13,233 --> 00:34:16,033
of how he's ordered it.

638
00:34:16,033 --> 00:34:17,400
We are equal.

639
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,466
Would you agree?

640
00:34:19,466 --> 00:34:20,933
Equal in value, men and women?

641
00:34:20,933 --> 00:34:22,066
Would you agree?

642
00:34:22,066 --> 00:34:25,100
Yes, we're equal, but we're not the same

643
00:34:27,033 --> 00:34:30,033
according to God's ordering.

644
00:34:31,933 --> 00:34:33,300
When you look at this, it says,

645
00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:36,300
I don't permit a woman to teach.

646
00:34:36,466 --> 00:34:38,433
Remember the difference
in those two words.

647
00:34:38,433 --> 00:34:40,800
Preach and teach.

648
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,566
Paul knows what he's talking about.

649
00:34:42,566 --> 00:34:45,000
He uses those words specifically in verse
seven.

650
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,000
He uses this one specifically in 11 here.

651
00:34:48,333 --> 00:34:51,333
I don't permit a woman to teach
or in verse 12.

652
00:34:52,700 --> 00:34:55,233
He uses the same word like,
I don't permit a woman

653
00:34:55,233 --> 00:34:58,233
to doctrine.

654
00:34:58,566 --> 00:35:01,566
Teaching in the context of the church

655
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:04,333
or to exercise authority.

656
00:35:04,333 --> 00:35:06,400
When Paul uses that word,
exercise authority.

657
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,466
Again, we have to know doctrine.

658
00:35:08,466 --> 00:35:10,233
It goes back to Genesis

659
00:35:11,666 --> 00:35:14,366
because of sin.

660
00:35:14,366 --> 00:35:18,600
The curse God said to the woman,
you will now desire your.

661
00:35:18,733 --> 00:35:21,966
You're a pain in childbirth,
that your desire will be for your husband.

662
00:35:22,166 --> 00:35:24,600
That's what he says after the fall.

663
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,100
That word desire doesn't
mean, oh, I want you.

664
00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:29,733
It doesn't mean that.

665
00:35:29,733 --> 00:35:32,733
It means you will now,

666
00:35:32,733 --> 00:35:37,266
because of sin, desire to have dominion
and rule over your husband.

667
00:35:37,333 --> 00:35:38,100
How do we know that?

668
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:41,066
Because you look at Genesis four seven

669
00:35:41,066 --> 00:35:44,500
when God is talking to Cain
before he kills his brother Abel.

670
00:35:44,866 --> 00:35:48,466
God says to Cain,
sin is crouching at your door

671
00:35:48,466 --> 00:35:51,466
and desires you.

672
00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:55,766
Is sin desires to have dominion over you.

673
00:35:55,766 --> 00:35:57,633
Sin desires to rule over you.

674
00:35:57,633 --> 00:36:00,900
It's the exact same word
that God uses of the woman

675
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:04,133
after before you will desire dominion
to rule over him. Now,

676
00:36:05,933 --> 00:36:08,933
a rejection of submission

677
00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:12,300
that Jesus Himself gave us

678
00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:15,233
in submitting to the father.

679
00:36:15,233 --> 00:36:18,233
You understand all this has to do

680
00:36:18,333 --> 00:36:21,333
with a prefiguring of Christ

681
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,200
and the order of God.

682
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:28,500
Let me address just a couple.

683
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:29,600
I'm at the same point.

684
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,533
I was in the first service.

685
00:36:31,533 --> 00:36:32,800
I got five minutes.

686
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,800
Just buckle up.

687
00:36:37,933 --> 00:36:39,933
And let me address
a couple common pushbacks

688
00:36:39,933 --> 00:36:44,700
against this idea of women
not teaching in this setting.

689
00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:45,966
Doctrine.

690
00:36:45,966 --> 00:36:49,600
I've heard it said, well,
when Paul used that word, shall not teach.

691
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,333
It's a present tense verb.

692
00:36:51,333 --> 00:36:53,433
And so it meant something for them
in the present tense.

693
00:36:53,433 --> 00:36:56,433
It's not meant to be applied after that.

694
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,600
Great idea. Wrong.

695
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,833
And here's the problem.

696
00:36:59,833 --> 00:37:03,800
There's over 100 present
tense of verbs in first Timothy.

697
00:37:03,833 --> 00:37:06,433
And if that were the case
for the teaching part,

698
00:37:06,433 --> 00:37:09,366
it has to be the case
for every other present tense of verbs,

699
00:37:09,366 --> 00:37:13,400
which would mean, therefore, that God
doesn't desire people to be saved anymore.

700
00:37:13,433 --> 00:37:15,000
That we should not pray anymore.

701
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,000
That we shouldn't manage our households
well anymore, and that we shouldn't desire

702
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,966
a good reputation
because those are all present verb

703
00:37:19,966 --> 00:37:22,000
that present tense verbs as well.

704
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,966
So if you're going to apply to one

705
00:37:22,966 --> 00:37:27,366
that got applied to all, and certainly
God still cares about people being saved,

706
00:37:28,466 --> 00:37:29,800
about praying,

707
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,800
about marriage,
our household, that good rotation, right?

708
00:37:32,833 --> 00:37:35,666
So so that one doesn't count.

709
00:37:35,666 --> 00:37:37,133
I've heard people say,

710
00:37:37,133 --> 00:37:39,933
well, the problem was a
uniquely Ephesian problem,

711
00:37:39,933 --> 00:37:42,000
and it wasn't meant to be applied
to all churches everywhere.

712
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,366
Here's the problem with that.

713
00:37:43,366 --> 00:37:46,633
Paul says the exact same thing
to the church in Corinth,

714
00:37:46,733 --> 00:37:49,733
which was on a
completely different continent.

715
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,666
And so it wasn't just an Ephesian problem.

716
00:37:53,666 --> 00:37:55,633
This was a church issue.

717
00:37:55,633 --> 00:37:57,766
It was an ordering issue.

718
00:37:57,766 --> 00:38:00,300
I've heard people say, well, it's
because there was a hyper feminized

719
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:03,466
culture in Ephesus
with the Temple of Diana or Artemus.

720
00:38:03,466 --> 00:38:05,733
And the process,
it was super hyper feminized.

721
00:38:05,733 --> 00:38:07,133
And it's pushing back.

722
00:38:07,133 --> 00:38:09,733
Paul is pushing back
against the feminization of the culture.

723
00:38:09,733 --> 00:38:11,733
I'm like, well,
welcome to American current day.

724
00:38:11,733 --> 00:38:14,733
But the problem with that idea, though,

725
00:38:14,866 --> 00:38:17,600
is that there was a riot in Ephesus,

726
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,600
and it was the men who rioted,
not the women.

727
00:38:20,833 --> 00:38:24,066
And the control
of the civility of the city

728
00:38:24,066 --> 00:38:27,500
was under man's control,
not woman's control.

729
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,833
And so everything about Ephesus, though
there was the temple of Diana,

730
00:38:31,966 --> 00:38:33,233
everything revolved around.

731
00:38:33,233 --> 00:38:37,600
It was the men who were in control,
not women.

732
00:38:37,633 --> 00:38:39,500
So it's not just a feminized issue.

733
00:38:40,766 --> 00:38:41,133
I've heard

734
00:38:41,133 --> 00:38:45,133
people say, well, Paul prohibited
the women teaching false doctrine,

735
00:38:45,366 --> 00:38:48,733
but if they were educated and taught,
good doctrine was okay.

736
00:38:48,900 --> 00:38:50,166
Here's the problem.

737
00:38:50,166 --> 00:38:54,500
Paul never details the teaching
of good doctrine and bad doctrine

738
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,966
for the prohibition about women
teaching doctrine of the church.

739
00:38:58,366 --> 00:39:00,300
He doesn't make that distinction.

740
00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:03,500
And that's the danger
when we choose to stand over it,

741
00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:07,000
because it just flies
in the face of the current culture.

742
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:10,500
We start putting stuff in there
that isn't there.

743
00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:13,266
I've heard people say

744
00:39:13,266 --> 00:39:15,066
that when Paul uses this idea

745
00:39:15,066 --> 00:39:18,333
of exercising authority over her husband.

746
00:39:18,333 --> 00:39:19,133
She was teaching

747
00:39:19,133 --> 00:39:22,666
without the husband giving her authority,
but the husband gave her his authority.

748
00:39:22,666 --> 00:39:25,666
Teach. Then it was okay. Here's
the problem.

749
00:39:25,733 --> 00:39:30,133
Paul doesn't say anything about a husband
giving his wife authority to do this.

750
00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:34,400
It's reading something into it
because we've chosen to stand over it.

751
00:39:35,433 --> 00:39:38,400
You got to be very careful.

752
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,400
I've heard
people say this about this issue.

753
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,466
Well, God's nonbinary, so it doesn't
matter anymore about male female stuff.

754
00:39:45,966 --> 00:39:48,166
And I think, well, no,
I understand what you're saying.

755
00:39:48,166 --> 00:39:50,200
God isn't male nor female.

756
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,100
I would say you're right.

757
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:53,366
He's fully male. He's fully female.

758
00:39:53,366 --> 00:39:56,066
We're created in his image,
in the image of God.

759
00:39:56,066 --> 00:39:58,500
He created them male and female.

760
00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:01,700
What I know about God is God
wrote the genetic code

761
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:05,700
and God knows the words he's using.

762
00:40:05,833 --> 00:40:06,833
And he chose to weren't.

763
00:40:06,833 --> 00:40:09,833
Use these words of male
and female on purpose.

764
00:40:10,733 --> 00:40:14,400
I've heard people say, well, in Christ
there's no male nor female.

765
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,100
You're right.

766
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:19,466
The problem with that argument
is that reference Naughton or June or

767
00:40:19,466 --> 00:40:23,300
Gentile, male or female, that's in
reference to salvation, not to order

768
00:40:24,966 --> 00:40:26,566
as far as salvation makes no difference.

769
00:40:26,566 --> 00:40:29,066
Male, female, Gentile,

770
00:40:29,066 --> 00:40:30,900
Jew slavery don't make a difference.

771
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:33,666
Salvation.
But that's not what this is about.

772
00:40:33,666 --> 00:40:34,500
This is about ordering.

773
00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:36,766
I've heard people say this,
this whole idea

774
00:40:36,766 --> 00:40:40,133
about when female submission
is due to the sin of Adam and Eve.

775
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,066
Because in Romans it says,
now there is therefore no condemnation.

776
00:40:44,133 --> 00:40:46,966
Are you just pretty sure
about that, pastor? Well that's true.

777
00:40:46,966 --> 00:40:50,100
The problem is this ordering of male
female us goes

778
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:53,100
back to pre-fall creation.

779
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:56,500
Not after fall creation.

780
00:40:58,100 --> 00:40:59,466
This whole idea

781
00:40:59,466 --> 00:41:02,466
that that presses in on God's ordering

782
00:41:03,166 --> 00:41:08,100
is part of a feminist
scholarly agenda towards

783
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:11,100
what we call the egalitarian view

784
00:41:11,233 --> 00:41:14,133
of men and women,

785
00:41:14,133 --> 00:41:17,133
of of leadership in the home.

786
00:41:17,466 --> 00:41:22,200
And the egalitarian view
says this we're equal and we're the same.

787
00:41:23,233 --> 00:41:26,000
That's the egalitarian view.

788
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,000
That's different from what's called
the complementary in view.

789
00:41:29,666 --> 00:41:33,900
The complementary view says
this we're equal, but we're different.

790
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:37,900
We're equal in value, but we're different.

791
00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:40,000
Egalitarian says no, we're equal in value.

792
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,000
And we're the exact same.

793
00:41:44,233 --> 00:41:45,333
The problem is

794
00:41:45,333 --> 00:41:48,333
that there's a continual movement in this.

795
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,900
That's the problem with progressives
is progressivism has no end.

796
00:41:52,333 --> 00:41:53,733
There's no borders.

797
00:41:53,733 --> 00:41:58,300
And so in this progressive movement,
from the complementary

798
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:01,300
in view of equal but different, moving to

799
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:04,666
egalitarian, equal and same.

800
00:42:05,133 --> 00:42:08,733
The progression
now is to same and indistinct.

801
00:42:09,966 --> 00:42:12,800
And that's where we are in this culture.

802
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,933
Men and women,
we're not only the same, we're indistinct.

803
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,566
And here's how it fleshes out.

804
00:42:19,566 --> 00:42:22,566
Now boys can play girls sports

805
00:42:24,766 --> 00:42:26,033
because after all, we're indistinct.

806
00:42:27,366 --> 00:42:29,433
Now there's no gender bathrooms.

807
00:42:29,433 --> 00:42:30,733
You can go in whatever one you want.

808
00:42:30,733 --> 00:42:33,733
Same thing with locker rooms,
because we're in distinct.

809
00:42:35,333 --> 00:42:38,000
Now we get to choose our gender

810
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,600
because we're

811
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,466
in distinct.

812
00:42:41,466 --> 00:42:44,466
Now, biological sex does not determine
gender.

813
00:42:45,666 --> 00:42:48,500
Now someone can be non-binary.

814
00:42:48,500 --> 00:42:51,233
Someone can be gender fluid.

815
00:42:51,233 --> 00:42:54,166
Someone gets to choose their pronouns

816
00:42:54,166 --> 00:42:56,900
because the pendulum has gone from.

817
00:42:56,900 --> 00:42:59,900
We're the same value, but we're different.

818
00:43:01,233 --> 00:43:02,900
To two, we're equal in the same.

819
00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:05,000
Now we're the same and the distinct.

820
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,433
And the problem is, many people in church
have gotten into this

821
00:43:09,033 --> 00:43:13,500
because it's taught in schools
as if it is truth to kids.

822
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,933
It's taught on the university campuses
that if you don't believe it,

823
00:43:16,933 --> 00:43:18,800
you're just an ignoramus.

824
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,466
And it's bought by people in the church
because they've not

825
00:43:21,466 --> 00:43:22,900
been taught good doctrine.

826
00:43:25,566 --> 00:43:29,700
And it's no wonder why this generation

827
00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:34,633
is the most confused generation
our world has ever seen.

828
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,533
And it's
no wonder that there is such a vast

829
00:43:38,733 --> 00:43:41,733
mental health crisis.

830
00:43:43,666 --> 00:43:46,666
The Bible says we are equal men and women,

831
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,800
but we're not the same.

832
00:43:49,933 --> 00:43:52,200
Not in the home, nor the church.

833
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,466
And this is what we have to understand.

834
00:43:54,466 --> 00:43:57,466
Complementarity is not competition.

835
00:43:57,666 --> 00:43:59,500
It's completion.

836
00:43:59,500 --> 00:44:01,900
When Eve was made, God said of her,

837
00:44:01,900 --> 00:44:05,900
I will make for Adam a completer.

838
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,333
So complementary in ism or equal,
we're not the same.

839
00:44:11,333 --> 00:44:13,300
It's not competition, it's completion.

840
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:16,666
And this is how God has completed
his image in maleness and femaleness.

841
00:44:17,233 --> 00:44:20,566
And so what about women's
role in the church?

842
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,733
What about what they did in the Bible?

843
00:44:22,733 --> 00:44:25,000
Great question. Let's talk about this.

844
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:29,200
We don't
have in this country a gender problem.

845
00:44:29,233 --> 00:44:31,433
We have a doctrine problem.

846
00:44:31,433 --> 00:44:32,933
God's not made a mistake.

847
00:44:32,933 --> 00:44:34,733
He didn't misgender anybody.

848
00:44:34,733 --> 00:44:36,300
He got the basics right.

849
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:37,700
We stand under Scripture.

850
00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:40,200
We don't. We rest under Scripture.
Don't stand over it.

851
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,433
Just because the culture is confused does
not mean the church should be confused.

852
00:44:44,833 --> 00:44:47,833
So to those who struggle
with this whole thing,

853
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,600
our role is to love

854
00:44:52,066 --> 00:44:55,200
and disciple them to Jesus really well.

855
00:44:56,733 --> 00:44:58,800
Our role is not to debate, is not to

856
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,800
post, is not to shame, is not to boycott,

857
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,033
is not to demean, is not to roll eyes.

858
00:45:07,833 --> 00:45:10,833
Our role is to speak the truth in love

859
00:45:11,466 --> 00:45:12,600
and disciple people.

860
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,533
Back to biblical maleness
and biblical femaleness,

861
00:45:15,533 --> 00:45:18,666
and the biblical role of marriage
between a man and a woman.

862
00:45:21,866 --> 00:45:23,566
And so, ladies,

863
00:45:23,566 --> 00:45:26,600
what your role in the church,
what's the Bible have to say?

864
00:45:27,066 --> 00:45:30,300
Listen, in the Old Testament
and New Testament, both women

865
00:45:30,566 --> 00:45:34,433
have had promise
and at roles as leaders, as prophets,

866
00:45:35,333 --> 00:45:39,033
as, as disciples, as evangelists,

867
00:45:39,233 --> 00:45:42,700
as worship leaders, as deacons, deaconess,

868
00:45:43,033 --> 00:45:46,900
as as prayer warriors outside the church.

869
00:45:47,233 --> 00:45:50,100
There's no difference what presidents.

870
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:52,466
We had our first female presidents
last year with Joe Biden.

871
00:45:52,466 --> 00:45:52,633
There.

872
00:45:52,633 --> 00:45:55,733
Like, there's no there's I gotta lighten
the mood every once in a while.

873
00:45:55,766 --> 00:45:57,900
I gotta throw something out there.
Whether you agree or not.

874
00:45:57,900 --> 00:45:59,433
You just got gotta chuckle a little bit.

875
00:45:59,433 --> 00:46:01,166
Like, there's CEOs.

876
00:46:01,166 --> 00:46:03,300
Like, there's no difference in the church.

877
00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:04,166
All this stuff.

878
00:46:04,166 --> 00:46:07,233
Prophets, women, prophets, leaders,

879
00:46:07,233 --> 00:46:10,233
military, civilly, disciples, evangelists.

880
00:46:10,233 --> 00:46:11,400
Virtually everything.

881
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,600
The only prohibition,
the only parameter I think back to this

882
00:46:15,633 --> 00:46:18,900
if you understand scripture,
but think back to the synagogue system.

883
00:46:19,066 --> 00:46:22,233
The synagogue system was after the

884
00:46:22,233 --> 00:46:25,700
the captivity where the nation of Israel
was taking the captive to Babylon.

885
00:46:25,733 --> 00:46:27,800
They didn't have the temple
to worship at anymore.

886
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,566
And so they established
all these synagogues all over Babylon.

887
00:46:30,566 --> 00:46:32,100
And there were basically neighborhood

888
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:34,366
little churches
where they would gather together.

889
00:46:34,366 --> 00:46:39,133
And a teacher, the synagogue teacher
would teach a doctrine in a foreign land.

890
00:46:39,433 --> 00:46:42,666
So they continue walking
according to the order of God.

891
00:46:42,966 --> 00:46:44,933
When they came back from captive City,

892
00:46:44,933 --> 00:46:47,933
that synagogue system
spread all over the Promised Land.

893
00:46:48,300 --> 00:46:51,000
And though biblically Old Testament
and new children,

894
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,266
you have women as prophets and leaders
and worship leaders

895
00:46:54,266 --> 00:46:57,600
and deacons
and serving in all these leadership roles.

896
00:46:57,633 --> 00:47:00,833
The one place in all of Scripture,
Old Testament and New Testament

897
00:47:00,966 --> 00:47:05,200
where you never see biblically
a woman leading is in the synagogue

898
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,133
because that's where doctrine was taught.

899
00:47:12,733 --> 00:47:16,733
So we got to be careful about making
broad scope while they did this.

900
00:47:16,733 --> 00:47:19,600
So they can do this.

901
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,433
We got to be careful.

902
00:47:22,433 --> 00:47:24,100
But here's here's what I want to say here.

903
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:26,733
Ladies, please understand

904
00:47:26,733 --> 00:47:28,800
don't miss the abundance

905
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,800
of God for your role as leaders

906
00:47:31,900 --> 00:47:34,566
due to God's one restriction.

907
00:47:34,566 --> 00:47:37,566
That was Eve's sin.

908
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,200
She missed the abundance of God.

909
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,366
Eat from any tree

910
00:47:42,366 --> 00:47:45,000
because she got caught up
with one restriction.

911
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,000
Just not this one.

912
00:47:52,233 --> 00:47:54,900
Don't follow in those footsteps.

913
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:56,733
Now, let me say this

914
00:47:56,733 --> 00:47:57,000
though.

915
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,566
That was Eve's issue.

916
00:47:59,566 --> 00:48:02,700
The Bible holds
Adam accountable for the sin of the world.

917
00:48:03,833 --> 00:48:06,766
The sin of the rule is not because
of Eve's deception.

918
00:48:06,766 --> 00:48:09,133
The sin of the world
is because man's transgression.

919
00:48:10,233 --> 00:48:12,000
E Adam was at fault,

920
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,700
not because he believed bad doctrine,
but because he was passive.

921
00:48:16,700 --> 00:48:18,166
Eve knew God's rule.

922
00:48:18,166 --> 00:48:19,466
Eve knew God's law.

923
00:48:19,466 --> 00:48:21,900
Either God told her or Adam told her.

924
00:48:21,900 --> 00:48:24,433
She knew this is what God has said.

925
00:48:24,433 --> 00:48:27,466
But Adam neglected his wife
and let her face

926
00:48:27,466 --> 00:48:30,466
the devil without protection
and without his covering.

927
00:48:31,500 --> 00:48:34,500
And he's held responsible.

928
00:48:36,900 --> 00:48:37,900
We have to understand

929
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:41,000
this, that ignoring
God design does not liberate the church.

930
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,933
It fractures. It.

931
00:48:42,933 --> 00:48:44,500
This is the same in marriage.

932
00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:46,300
It's the same in our families.

933
00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:49,333
Ignoring God's design for marriage
isn't liberate people.

934
00:48:49,333 --> 00:48:50,366
It fractures them.

935
00:48:50,366 --> 00:48:54,533
Ignoring God's design for for for family
doesn't liberate people.

936
00:48:54,566 --> 00:48:55,566
It fractures them.

937
00:48:55,566 --> 00:48:58,566
This is what send us.

938
00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:01,400
So the flip side.

939
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,600
Would a women get a do

940
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,166
a lot

941
00:49:06,166 --> 00:49:08,100
because you're gifted

942
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:10,533
and you're created to do so

943
00:49:10,533 --> 00:49:13,400
and you're skilled at it
and they're called.

944
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,600
I know one church that doesn't allow women
to teach anybody above fifth grade.

945
00:49:18,866 --> 00:49:21,200
It's a big church.

946
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,200
I won't name names
because you probably know it

947
00:49:24,733 --> 00:49:27,733
well.

948
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:32,100
I will say this.

949
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,633
I think we're pretty biblical

950
00:49:34,633 --> 00:49:37,633
in the opportunity
women have in in ministry.

951
00:49:39,033 --> 00:49:40,200
Don't miss the abundance

952
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,200
for one restriction.

953
00:49:44,333 --> 00:49:46,666
In our staff meetings

954
00:49:46,666 --> 00:49:49,066
every Tuesday morning, we get together.

955
00:49:49,066 --> 00:49:52,500
And right now there's three men who,
me and three women who meet all together.

956
00:49:52,933 --> 00:49:55,100
And we take turns.

957
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:58,866
And the ladies in our meetings lead us

958
00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:04,066
in the devotions of God's Word and what
they're learning and what the word says.

959
00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:09,666
We sat under something Heather brought
a couple weeks ago from Ephesians,

960
00:50:11,533 --> 00:50:14,533
and it was beautiful and it was from God.

961
00:50:15,633 --> 00:50:17,200
This last week, Ali just joined us.

962
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,600
She just graduated from Fresno State.

963
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,600
Good job Ali.

964
00:50:23,666 --> 00:50:27,500
Ali led us and said, here's
what I'm learning from God's Word.

965
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:28,700
Here's what it means to me.

966
00:50:28,700 --> 00:50:31,266
Here's what it means for us.

967
00:50:31,266 --> 00:50:33,300
And guess what? We did?

968
00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:36,300
We listen to paid attention to our word.

969
00:50:36,566 --> 00:50:39,566
We're drawn into God's presence

970
00:50:39,666 --> 00:50:42,500
and instruction for how we live.

971
00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:45,500
I think we do a pretty good job.

972
00:50:45,766 --> 00:50:48,766
Women, you want to lead, please.

973
00:50:48,766 --> 00:50:51,066
One of you become the prayer warrior
for this church.

974
00:50:51,066 --> 00:50:53,866
Take over the first Tuesday
prayer ministry.

975
00:50:53,866 --> 00:50:56,866
Guess who leads that?

976
00:51:00,033 --> 00:51:01,266
You want to lead?

977
00:51:01,266 --> 00:51:04,033
Step up and lead, ladies,

978
00:51:04,033 --> 00:51:05,966
please. You want to lead?

979
00:51:05,966 --> 00:51:09,000
We have a we have a
we have a woman worship leader.

980
00:51:09,866 --> 00:51:10,566
Her name is Ali.

981
00:51:10,566 --> 00:51:13,200
That's what she does.
She leads in worship.

982
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,266
She's taking over the planning of it.

983
00:51:15,266 --> 00:51:17,400
The orchestration of it.

984
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,966
She's our worship leader.

985
00:51:18,966 --> 00:51:20,000
You want to lead? Lead?

986
00:51:22,866 --> 00:51:24,566
You want to lead lead, please.

987
00:51:24,566 --> 00:51:26,366
Someone would want to. You lead.

988
00:51:26,366 --> 00:51:27,833
Please be the baptismal coordinator.

989
00:51:27,833 --> 00:51:29,600
We'll let you lead

990
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,266
to take over meeting with the people.

991
00:51:31,266 --> 00:51:33,500
Accept Jesus
walking them through the steps of faith.

992
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:35,466
Make sure they're got a relationship
with Jesus.

993
00:51:35,466 --> 00:51:38,433
You show up at my house on a Saturday
afternoon and set everything up.

994
00:51:38,433 --> 00:51:39,066
Get ready to go.

995
00:51:39,066 --> 00:51:42,066
You know who does that?

996
00:51:44,766 --> 00:51:47,766
Please, ladies, lead.

997
00:51:48,433 --> 00:51:49,500
Be a minister of the church.

998
00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:50,533
That way.

999
00:51:50,533 --> 00:51:51,366
You want to lead?

1000
00:51:51,366 --> 00:51:54,366
Ladies, take over the tech ministry.

1001
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,766
Take over the over the audiovisual stuff.

1002
00:51:57,766 --> 00:51:59,900
Be the leader of that ministry.

1003
00:51:59,900 --> 00:52:02,900
Pastor, the people in that ministry.

1004
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,833
You know, we're welcome to it.

1005
00:52:04,833 --> 00:52:07,833
Anybody?

1006
00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:10,966
You want to lead?

1007
00:52:10,966 --> 00:52:11,700
Lead your huddles.

1008
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:13,833
Teacher. Huddles.

1009
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Proclaim God's word.

1010
00:52:14,866 --> 00:52:17,733
Teacher
huddles. Go to those people you know.

1011
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,766
Lead.

1012
00:52:21,766 --> 00:52:22,566
You want to lead.

1013
00:52:22,566 --> 00:52:24,100
Take over the visitation ministry.

1014
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:25,900
There's the pastoral care.

1015
00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:29,066
Be in charge of the pastoral
care of this church, ladies.

1016
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:31,400
Go ahead.

1017
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,966
Like, don't miss the abundance

1018
00:52:32,966 --> 00:52:35,966
for one restriction.

1019
00:52:39,433 --> 00:52:40,266
Listen.

1020
00:52:40,266 --> 00:52:42,866
God's designed is not up for provision.

1021
00:52:42,866 --> 00:52:45,300
It's up for joyful submission.

1022
00:52:45,300 --> 00:52:48,133
And so, even in this area,
we rest under God's Word.

1023
00:52:48,133 --> 00:52:51,133
We don't get to stand over it.

1024
00:52:51,433 --> 00:52:53,100
Let me just wrap this with.

1025
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:55,800
I'm almost.

1026
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,066
You know why God is determined.

1027
00:52:57,066 --> 00:53:01,000
The role of teaching doctrine in the
church setting like this is for the man.

1028
00:53:01,333 --> 00:53:03,800
Let me tell you why.
Let me tell you one reason.

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Second Timothy 316 All Scripture is

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00:53:07,066 --> 00:53:10,066
breathed out
by God and profitable for teaching.

1031
00:53:10,466 --> 00:53:12,733
Okay, that's doctrine for reproof.

1032
00:53:12,733 --> 00:53:16,966
That word is rebuking,
correcting, training, righteousness.

1033
00:53:19,366 --> 00:53:20,233
The Word of

1034
00:53:20,233 --> 00:53:24,433
God is profitable for teaching doctrine
in the church, to rebuke

1035
00:53:24,866 --> 00:53:27,700
and to correct.

1036
00:53:27,700 --> 00:53:28,933
That's the purpose of teaching.

1037
00:53:28,933 --> 00:53:31,933
On Sunday morning.

1038
00:53:32,233 --> 00:53:35,233
To rebuke and correct.

1039
00:53:35,733 --> 00:53:37,500
Have any of you ever been

1040
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:40,500
in the lead position of a church

1041
00:53:41,266 --> 00:53:45,033
to lead from the lead position,
those in your church

1042
00:53:45,066 --> 00:53:51,366
and your close friends in rebuking them
and correcting them doctrinally?

1043
00:53:51,666 --> 00:53:53,400
If you have to do that?

1044
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,433
Do you know what it's like
to have to teach

1045
00:53:57,566 --> 00:54:00,466
and lead your very friends

1046
00:54:00,466 --> 00:54:03,466
in rebuking and correcting?

1047
00:54:06,733 --> 00:54:09,733
That's not fun.

1048
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,166
Have any of you has the lead?

1049
00:54:16,166 --> 00:54:17,133
Has it?

1050
00:54:17,133 --> 00:54:21,066
Have any of you had to out counsel
someone from your church?

1051
00:54:25,366 --> 00:54:28,533
Have you had to sit down
with someone face to face and say, look,

1052
00:54:28,733 --> 00:54:32,600
these are the lines that have been drawn,
and I need to ask you

1053
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:33,866
to worship somewhere else

1054
00:54:34,933 --> 00:54:37,066
because all you're
doing here is creating division, distance.

1055
00:54:37,066 --> 00:54:39,333
Have you had to do that?

1056
00:54:39,333 --> 00:54:42,333
It's not fun.

1057
00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:44,000
Especially in a committee

1058
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,733
like this where you still see him
at the market and the diner

1059
00:54:49,666 --> 00:54:52,000
and on the ball fields,

1060
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,000
when you share similar friends and kids,

1061
00:54:55,933 --> 00:54:58,300
you don't share kids with them yet.

1062
00:54:58,300 --> 00:55:00,600
You're different, you know.

1063
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,600
I know.

1064
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:06,500
Think about your home.

1065
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:09,266
Who should be the primary disciplinarian?

1066
00:55:09,266 --> 00:55:10,500
Not that moms don't. Please.

1067
00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:13,166
I got a lot of, like Asterix,
not the moms. Don't.

1068
00:55:13,166 --> 00:55:15,766
Moms discipline a correct to the I.

1069
00:55:15,766 --> 00:55:20,266
My mama disciplined us,
but I knew that daddy was coming home.

1070
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,433
So in the home,
the primary disciplinarian is

1071
00:55:24,433 --> 00:55:28,666
that moms more naturally nurturers

1072
00:55:28,666 --> 00:55:31,666
and planning the fun genders
for the family.

1073
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:39,366
Dads have the role of rebuking and
correcting and training and righteousness.

1074
00:55:40,333 --> 00:55:42,900
And it's that way in the church

1075
00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:44,966
preaching for the context of nonbelievers.

1076
00:55:44,966 --> 00:55:46,133
Evangelism. Good news.

1077
00:55:46,133 --> 00:55:47,933
Beauty. Grace. Redemption.

1078
00:55:47,933 --> 00:55:49,266
Inviting to be part of the family.

1079
00:55:49,266 --> 00:55:51,866
Loving love of God for the way we're kids.

1080
00:55:51,866 --> 00:55:54,066
The great Commission preaching.
Everybody do it.

1081
00:55:54,066 --> 00:55:55,966
How about it? Please?

1082
00:55:55,966 --> 00:55:59,266
But teaching doctrine
that rebukes and corrects

1083
00:56:00,566 --> 00:56:02,000
God's order.

1084
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,733
It's been designed

1085
00:56:04,733 --> 00:56:07,733
for a man.

1086
00:56:08,466 --> 00:56:10,100
I'm not even going to talk about verse 15.

1087
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:12,833
The women childbirth thing saving.

1088
00:56:12,833 --> 00:56:15,566
I'm going to save that for next week.
I've covered enough.

1089
00:56:15,566 --> 00:56:17,100
I'll save that one for next week.

1090
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:18,933
But but here's, here's
let me trap up with this.

1091
00:56:18,933 --> 00:56:20,466
Please understand.

1092
00:56:20,466 --> 00:56:22,100
Order isn't oppression.

1093
00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:24,833
It's orchestration.

1094
00:56:24,833 --> 00:56:25,200
Okay?

1095
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,066
God's order is not oppression
for anybody, it's orchestration.

1096
00:56:29,833 --> 00:56:32,533
And as we understand the order and submit

1097
00:56:32,533 --> 00:56:36,300
to the order, it's
an orchestra of beautiful music.

1098
00:56:38,366 --> 00:56:41,200
Men and women, equal worth.

1099
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,200
Ordered to work.

1100
00:56:44,433 --> 00:56:47,433
You understand?

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00:56:47,566 --> 00:56:49,300
Equal worth.

1102
00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:52,300
Just ordered work.

1103
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:55,500
And please, over all things.

1104
00:56:55,733 --> 00:56:58,500
God's design is not a prison.

1105
00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:01,500
It's an ordered platform
for our protection.

1106
00:57:03,566 --> 00:57:03,966
God's

1107
00:57:03,966 --> 00:57:06,966
design for your marriage is not a prison.

1108
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,800
It's an ordered platform
for your protection.

1109
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:14,000
God's
design for the family is not a prison.

1110
00:57:14,033 --> 00:57:16,600
It's an ordered platform
for your protection.

1111
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,500
God's design for your finances.

1112
00:57:18,500 --> 00:57:19,600
This is not a prison.

1113
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,833
It's an ordered platform
for your protection.

1114
00:57:21,833 --> 00:57:23,900
God's designed for the church.

1115
00:57:23,900 --> 00:57:26,900
And the leadership of the church
is not a prison.

1116
00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:30,900
It's an order platform for protection.

1117
00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:35,100
Can stand.

1118
00:57:35,833 --> 00:57:37,833
Listen, I love you.

1119
00:57:37,833 --> 00:57:40,833
And I'm so thankful
that God has allowed me

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to get to teach in this venue for us.

1121
00:57:45,900 --> 00:57:47,400
Doctrine of the Scripture.

1122
00:57:48,633 --> 00:57:50,633
And it's good.

1123
00:57:50,633 --> 00:57:53,633
And it's for our protection.

1124
00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:56,666
I appreciate you and I love you.

1125
00:57:56,666 --> 00:57:59,666
And God's Word is good.

1126
00:58:00,633 --> 00:58:01,066
Let's pray.

1127
00:58:01,066 --> 00:58:03,833
Father, thank you.

1128
00:58:03,833 --> 00:58:05,233
Thank you
that you've given us the opportunity

1129
00:58:05,233 --> 00:58:08,233
to submit to you.

1130
00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:13,500
Thank you that you have called us.

1131
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,300
Into a divine order.

1132
00:58:17,300 --> 00:58:20,300
That is a beautiful orchestration

1133
00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:23,700
of your image to the world.

1134
00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:27,166
Forgive us for the times
when we focused on

1135
00:58:27,166 --> 00:58:30,166
the one
and missed the abundance of it all.

1136
00:58:32,133 --> 00:58:35,133
Forgive us for the times where

1137
00:58:35,166 --> 00:58:37,500
we thought we had the authority
to stand over your word,

1138
00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:40,500
rather than just arrest under it.

1139
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,233
And, father,

1140
00:58:42,233 --> 00:58:45,866
there are people here who for whom
this issue really isn't an issue for them.

1141
00:58:45,866 --> 00:58:47,966
Like whatever. We're talking about it
because it's in the Bible.

1142
00:58:47,966 --> 00:58:53,000
But there's other stuff
that they're pushing against your design.

1143
00:58:54,333 --> 00:58:54,966
And father, I

1144
00:58:54,966 --> 00:58:59,500
pray over all of us, whatever
that issue is, that we would submit

1145
00:58:59,500 --> 00:59:02,500
to your design, understanding
that it's for our protection.

1146
00:59:02,533 --> 00:59:05,400
It's not a prison

1147
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,200
that you haven't given us these commands

1148
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,433
in these parameters to hand tie us in hard
times.

1149
00:59:10,533 --> 00:59:15,466
You've given it to us for our protection
and in submission to your word.

1150
00:59:15,466 --> 00:59:18,466
And ordering is great Liberation
and freedom.

1151
00:59:19,433 --> 00:59:21,733
Father, I pray that us men and women, male

1152
00:59:21,733 --> 00:59:24,733
and female, would both understand that

1153
00:59:25,133 --> 00:59:28,133
you are so good.

1154
00:59:28,633 --> 00:59:32,200
Enable us to rest under your word.

1155
00:59:35,133 --> 00:59:36,900
We love you, Jesus.

1156
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:40,133
Thank you that though the culture's
confused, this church doesn't have to be.

1157
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,266
Thank you for your mercy
that you've given us.

1158
00:59:43,266 --> 00:59:44,200
Thank you for your grace.

1159
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,200
Father, I thank you for your mercy
and grace over me.

1160
00:59:47,466 --> 00:59:48,066
Above all.

1161
00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:52,000
You're so merciful to me, father.

1162
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,666
Thank you.

1163
00:59:53,666 --> 00:59:56,666
Thank you for your grace
that you bestowed over me.

1164
00:59:59,866 --> 01:00:01,733
We love you, Jesus.

1165
01:00:01,733 --> 01:00:03,733
Help us love you more.

1166
01:00:03,733 --> 01:00:04,700
In your name I pray. Amen.